The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

[Karthik]

susa tweets about some new evidence on NH case..

but susa is known to say such things for hype..

in other news - there's movement on many cases, karti PC is being summoned again, JJ house is being searched again, coal case movement..

Opposition game plan is now clear as to why they made the four judges do a press meet.

that will give them a wiggle room and make arguments on the lines of 'justices are suspect, how can we trust blah blah'..

Gus mama, what's your take on the reaction on Andal by V'mutu. Heard protests were there, but seeing the VM groups also has good support from usual rationalists and language supremacists . Any indic consolidation possible in TN?

[Gus]

protests were mostly vaishnavas, iyengars and some followers from other communities. if you think this is enough for "indic consolidation in TN"...i have dozens of bridges to sell.

[JohnTitor]

Milawds continue to perpetuate "caste" ensuring divisions last forever. Hilarious because this system has no basis in the original varna system. Yet dhimmi hindus will speak as if it was!

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/caste- ... 575668.cms

[Karthik]

protests were mostly vaishnavas, iyengars and some followers from other communities. if you think this is enough for "indic consolidation in TN"...i have dozens of bridges to sell.

OK, I didn't know the composition of the protesters, hence asked, because a handle "avarakai" in twitter was saying indic consolidation was slowly going on. BTW, VM took that dig at andal may be because those communities have no voice already.

[chetak]

ever wonder how come so many journos from the minorities have suddenly started to appear in mainstream journalism??

twitter

How many Christian Schools produce IIT IIM and Medical students? check results
Christians Schools specialize in SECULAR and paid Journalist

[JohnTitor]

OK, I didn't know the composition of the protesters, hence asked, because a handle "avarakai" in twitter was saying indic consolidation was slowly going on. BTW, VM took that dig at andal may be because those communities have no voice already.

Actually this is a big step in itself. The Vaishnava community is generally very quiet and keeps its head down. You hardly hear of them. So the fact that they have decided to take to the street itself shows that people are becoming tired the constant hate against all things Hindu.

Is it Indic consolidation on a scale that will radically change things overnight? No, but the scales are tipping

[Indrad]

Togadia and two other heavy weights to be sacked from RSS lets see how is VHP handled from here onwards

[Sachin]

Togadia and two other heavy weights to be sacked from RSS lets see how is VHP handled from here onwards

If RSS chucks out Togadia & Co, the "seculars" can no more blame the Sangh for his group's actions. And Togadia may have to become more extreme right wing so that his VHP cadre would still be with him. I feel this move would enable the creation of a more stronger right wing, who most probably would force the BJP also when it becomes too "secular". The Congress may co-opt Togadia & Co, but there by also losing its "secular" image.

[MehtaRahulC]

A case against Togadiaji was filed in Rajasthan in some late 1990s (1996?) year. Then in jun-2015 , Law Ministry or Home Dept of Rajasthan wrote an official letter to local public prosecutor to withdraw the case against Togadiaji. But the local PP says that he never got that letter !! And then in dec-2017, local PP asks the learned judge to issue a non bailable warrant, and the learned judge immediately issues the warrant and next minute, some 8-10 Rajasthan policemen leave for Ahmedabad, and come to Ahmedabad next day to arrest Togadiaji !! Such speed !! And Togadiaji does drama of fainting, getting admitted in hospital, accusing Modiji of hatching a plot of encountering himself etc etc

But RSS-apex leader thinks that ONLY Togadiaji should be blamed for this drama. They are giving free pass to Modiji who pulled strings to ensure that Tagadiaji faces arrest. Looks like RSS-apex believes that judges' issuing warrant and policemen coming all the way to Ahmedabad for arrest for "rule of law" at work

Or is Mohan Bhagwatji too worried that if Bhagwatji doesnt sack Togadiaji, then some learned judge may do "rule of law" and some warrant in the name of Mohan Bhagwatji may also get issued?

Well, I dont have inside information to decide why Mohan Bhagwatji is blaming Togadiaji alone for this arrest and encounter allegation drama. And I also dont know if Modiji pulled string to issue arrest warrant on Togadiaji or was it just "rule of law" at work.

For me, intra-parivaar issue is only entertainment. I am not taking sides. Be Haren Pandya or Sanjay Joshi and now Togadiaji , I never took sides.

But the issue of temple land is real for me. RSS-leaders are now OPENLY scheming to siphon temple land into their private NGOs. (Pls google on "Maharashtra temple land Fadnavis"). Land of temples is worth over several lakh crores. Thats why fight is becoming so bitter. We must work to stop this temple land loot. The temples must be returned to original owners or their heirs asap.

[Indrad]

@ShankhNaad
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Please RT. Modi's close aide Zafar Sareshwala explains how Modi crushed #Hindu Organizations who have protected Hindus.

Its because of VHP & Bajrang Dal that the #Godhra massacre did not happen again. Imagine the silent Muslim appeasement Modi does! What will he do in #Kerala ?

https://twitter.com/ShankhNaad/status/9 ... 4634706944

follow the thread.

Shankhnad is handled by VHP.

[Karthik]

He gave zee interview hours after ABVP guy was killed in Kerala. Not one word on that, he was all smiling and carrying on with his personal marketing and self appraisal. Was expecting atleast one sentence on that.

[MehtaRahulC]

@ShankhNaad

Please RT. Modi's close aide Zafar Sareshwala explains how Modi crushed #Hindu Organizations who have protected Hindus. Its because of VHP & Bajrang Dal that the #Godhra massacre did not happen again. Imagine the silent Muslim appeasement Modi does! What will he do in #Kerala ?

https://twitter.com/ShankhNaad/status/9 ... 4634706944
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Shankhnad is handled by VHP.

He gave zee interview hours after ABVP guy was killed in Kerala. Not one word on that, he was all smiling and carrying on with his personal marketing and self appraisal. Was expecting atleast one sentence on that.

Are you guys accusing Sri Modiji of being anti-Hindu? or p-Hinduvaadi?

I request all to be very clear while making allegations.

From you post, my conclusion that you are accusing modiji of being anti-Hindu, p-sec etc etc. And if a self proclaimed Hinduvaadi is being labeled as anti-Hindu, p-sec then it is same as labeling him as p-Hinduvaadi.

And if you are accusing PMji of being p-sec, anti-Hindu etc, then pls also give YOUR thoughts on HIS motives behind such approach. What are reasons in YOUR opinion why Modiji is acting like anti-Hindu people

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Shanknaad is run by SuSwa and not VHP. I know because I personally know a volunteer who used to make FB page of Shankhnaad. He left after I explained to him that SuSwa is a psuedo and a US-agent, and he agreed with me. Anyway, never listen to a nameless faceless organization. It is better to listen to a person who has courage to put his own name and his own picture and then state what he wants to say
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re : violance in kereala --- solution to islamist violence is to end corruption in policemen and courts. If Hinduivaadies think that voting for RSS is solution to islamist violence, then they are badly mistaken. The islamist violence is symptom - the real growth agents are higher population growth rate and bangladeshi infiltration. And rss will never work to bring two child law and stop blangladeshi. Even if superficial violence ends, higher population growth rate will one day enable islamists to erupt like volcano , and take over parts of India completely. So imo Hinduvaadies in kerala and across India should work to publicize two child law, and expel bangladeshi infiltrators, and not waste time on rss.
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Added later --- show the video at https://twitter.com/ShankhNaad/status/9 ... 4634706944 , link as posted by BRFite Indrad
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Pls see the video !! OMG !! I have been saying this for over 10 years -- that wherever rss forms govt, the first thing they do is finish vhp/BajDal. And I was dubbed as BIF-agent for that !!! And now all postors are posting videos which say exact same thing !! Things have changes a lot on BRF since jan-2014 !!!

[KL Dubey]

The same guy also tweeted this recently:

@ShankhNaad
2h ago
Vote for Modi in 2019 if you want this appeasement by Congis to end

ShankhNaad Retweeted Hardik Bhatt
Hardik Bhatt
We are feeding Terrorists..!!

He seems to tweet on various issues affecting Hindus, most of which I agree with. However, I do not think NaMo can immediately do much about these individual incidents.

Do the tweets of internet "lone rangers" merit such a detailed analysis here ? Nothing else for some posters to discuss, it seems. This thread has gone to seed already.

[KL Dubey]

He gave zee interview hours after ABVP guy was killed in Kerala. Not one word on that, he was all smiling and carrying on with his personal marketing and self appraisal. Was expecting atleast one sentence on that.

Your expectation does not determine NaMo's interview agenda. BJP (no less than Amit Shah) has time and again lodged serious protest with the CPM thug goremint run by the mangy dawg named Pinarayi (or Pinam-ayi ?) Vijayan. Is it possible that behind-the-scenes plans are being made ? Everything does not need to be out in the open. It is a different matter that the Sangh may soon retaliate in kind, if past history is any indication.

[KL Dubey]

If Hinduivaadies think that voting for RSS is solution to islamist violence, then they are badly mistaken. The islamist violence is symptom - the real growth agents are higher population growth rate and bangladeshi infiltration. And rss will never work to bring two child law and stop blangladeshi. Even if superficial violence ends, higher population growth rate will one day enable islamists to erupt like volcano , and take over parts of India completely.

And who do you suggest they should vote for in 2019? Wait, let me guess - persons like you who are perpetually talking about "bringing law drafts" that have absolutely no chance (i.e., zero, shunya, zilch) of passing legislative muster. I am sorry, this is really ridiculous.

So imo Hinduvaadies in kerala and across India should work to publicize two child law, and expel bangladeshi infiltrators, and not waste time on rss.

Yeah, right. What will publicizing such "laws" (which do not exist today) achieve when - if the BJP loses in 2019 - there will be nobody in Sansad to pass these laws ? Unless people vote for the BJP, there is not even a ghost of a chance.

If you think Hindus should vote NOTA in order to send the BJP a message, the result will be that the dedicated vote bank of Congis and other anti-national parties will ensure their victory. And then you will be stripped naked of your fundamental rights and dignity from head to toe by the BIF.

Use your brain and understand the gravity of the situation. Stop these useless and long-winded rants which you take great pains to present as highly insightful criticism. They will get you nowhere and neither will they help the country. Why don't you try focusing on the positives of the NaMo sarkaar till the end of 2019 election? Your years of monotonous negativity have yielded absolutely nothing, so why not focus on positivity for a change?

[Karthik]

Pavan Kalyan.

[hanumadu]

It seems if India wants to play ball with the christian world, it has to listen to Christians. I see the Amruta Fadnavis, Mumbai BJP chief's participation in Christian events in that light.

I wouldn't be surprised if MoS for HRD's statement on evolution is made at Christian's behest. It's not an election issue for Hindus nor was there any demand from Hindus for not teaching evolution in school. We have to get out of the American grip.

[Vikas]

Do we have lot of Xtians masquerading as Hindus among us or is it the Hindu trait of bowing his head to any place called Gods place yet looking for the idol of Narayan.
Wonder if we are being cheated or if these Islamists and Xtians are being cheated. One push and all the fakes would be visiting temples singing Bhajans and become Jenau-dhari in a jiffy. Too confusing !!
Like someone said, If Muslims allowed it, Hindus would have been the largest community going for Haj and visiting Mecca
We probablyhave more Hindus going to Ajmer to visit the grave of that 'Murderer of our ancestors' than the number that visits Pushkar.

[hanumadu]

One thing we should stop saying is that any Hindu who attends a christian event is a crypto christian. It just sounds so stupid. Vote bank politics is enough reason for politicians to do what they do. We just have to make sure our vote is more valuable than others'.

[shravanp]

All these 70 plus years people voted for Congoon thugs, and assorted third rate thugs like Mayawatis, Laloos, Mulayams, Pawar, Karunanidhi and now all of a sudden want Modi to perform no less than Superman vanquishing every single foe/enemy of Hindu society in a matter of just 3 years. Modiji has done good job so far, and quite frankly, has outperformed many expectations.

So some guys need to learn on key virtues of patience, anxiety control and wait. Take BP pills regularly to keep in check, if needed.

[KL Dubey]

All these 70 plus years people voted for Congoon thugs, and assorted third rate thugs like Mayawatis, Laloos, Mulayams, Pawar, Karunanidhi and now all of a sudden want Modi to perform no less than Superman vanquishing every single foe/enemy of Hindu society in a matter of just 3 years. Modiji has done good job so far, and quite frankly, has outperformed many expectations.

So some guys need to learn on key virtues of patience, anxiety control and wait. Take BP pills regularly to keep in check, if needed.

Seriously true. Maybe it is the Indian trait that some have of being cantankerous under any circumstances, good or bad.

The funny part is that they never learn - NaMo does not react to random day-to-day dramas and catcalls. He reads and watches everything minutely, but he will not react unless he has a reason. He is busy doing his job and plotting behind the scenes, in the interest of the nation. Least we can do is to give him full support to deliver all the main things he presonally promised in 2014 (and no, we are not talking about other people's desires projected on NaMo).

Not only does he have to deliver the development promises, but also get ready for the arduous 2018 and 2019 campaigns. From jokers like Manmohan Singh who faint in summer heat, here we have got a man who (at 65+ age) will address something like 200 rallies all over Bharat in the next 16-17 months.

So I suggest to the "some guys" referred in your post - have some respect and stop catcalling. If you really want to help, spread the message by talking about positive things that you can support with facts and figures. If you download the NaMo App on your phone, you will have enough facts and figures and infographics to keep you talking (and opponents shut up) for years. Go do something useful, fellas.

[Supratik]

There will always be underachievers with constipation who would rather criticise the other guy even if he is a performer rather than do something themselves. In their la-la land they have no idea the kind of forces are at work. Best to ignore their rants and keep your BP in check. I simply skip their posts.

[shyamsp]

Pavan Kalyan.

One thing we should stop saying is that any Hindu who attends a christian event is a crypto christian. It just sounds so stupid. Vote bank politics is enough reason for politicians to do what they do. We just have to make sure our vote is more valuable than others'.

First, I didn't know actor Pawan Kalyan is married to some Polish Christian. Second, Polish now found a stupid brown guy to enter Indian politics to control brown people.

Pic : Pawan Attends Church With Wife - ManaTeluguMovies
On Sunday, Jana Sena Chief Pawan Kalyan attended mass at St. Mary's church in Secunderabad along with his Polish wife Anna Lezhneva and Poland Ambassador to

[shravanp]

Not only does he have to deliver the development promises, but also get ready for the arduous 2018 and 2019 campaigns. From jokers like Manmohan Singh who faint in summer heat, here we have got a man who (at 65+ age) will address something like 200 rallies all over Bharat in the next 16-17 months.

The very thought of that is extremely concerning. Its a fragile thing to have, and yet extremely necessary to win 2019. The least we can all do is be a bit constructive and quit immature RW outrages that we here now and then. We already have to tolerate rNdtv/jnu/leftist cabal outrages on daily basis, the last we want to hear is RW outrages on why Modi hasn't done anything for Hindus.

Dubey saar, if you are on twitter, the 'some people' I am referring to is the camp belonging to @neha_aks who are lately outraging on every little thing. Some of them are on this forum too.

[hanumadu]

First, I didn't know actor Pawan Kalyan is married to some Polish Christian. Second, Polish now found a stupid brown guy to enter Indian politics to control brown people.

Pic : Pawan Attends Church With Wife - ManaTeluguMovies
On Sunday, Jana Sena Chief Pawan Kalyan attended mass at St. Mary's church in Secunderabad along with his Polish wife Anna Lezhneva and Poland Ambassador to

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/ ... rches.html

Guntur: The AP government has increased allocation of funds for construction of churches. Chief Minister N. Chandrababu Naidu, who participated in the Christmas celebrations at Swasthisala at Kakani in Guntur district on Sunday, handed over the copy of a GO, which stated that the funds for construction of a church have been increased from Rs 1 lakh to Rs 3 lakh, to the Christian community elders. Mr Naidu recited holy verses from the Bible and explained about the motto of Christianity to the devotees on the occasion.

Mr Naidu, quoting the words of Mother Theresa, “Not all of us can do great things but we can do small things with great love”, urged the people to collectively working for the development of the society which, in turn, would develop the state.

He said that no other state in India was offering gifts to the poor on every festival, except AP. The TD government has offered Chandranna Christmas Kanuka to Christians with an expenditure of Rs 334 crore.

He said the state government had spend Rs 57 crore for the welfare of Christians and increased aid for Jerusalem pilgrimage to Rs 40,000 from Rs 20,000.

Responding to the request of the Swasthisala organisers about providing special train to Kakani on Monday and Saturday, Mr. Naidu said that public in large numbers visit the Swasthisala on both the days and so, the APSRTC will increase the number of bus services. He also promised about taking the issue of special train to the notice of the railway department. He assured the community of protecting the assets of churches.