The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - Oct 2018)

[Lilo]

Someone made this.

[JohnTitor]

^^ while I'm no fan of Rahul Gandi, some of these pictures are likely out of context. But then again, if it helps BJP, why not.

[JohnTitor]

what is the endgame for the NRC? what is legally possible / mandated here?

It is being driven by the SC itself.

It has been hanging fire for the longest time since MMS himself promised action.

The BJP saw the opportunity and moved in to administer the TKO. (technical knock out).

Now, all the commie and leftist pants are on fire.

A case has already been filed against mumta banoo.

Can her strident opposition to this SC monitored exercise turn into a contempt of court case ??

What's important is not the legality of this or even the SC judgement.

It's a question if whether there is political will for it. The gang Bandhan definitely won't persue this, intact they will oppose it tooth and nail.

BJP is unlikely to rock the boat either, after all, they don't like being seen as against them. And while you and I can agree that this has nothing to do with ROP, that's what it'll be turned into. This will drag on for a while with no progress whatsoever.

End of the day, nothing will happen. But there wouldn't be anyone happier than me if I were proved wrong.

[chetak]

Finally, some action against deadwood.

RAW Sacks Four Senior Officers For Non-Performance, Part Of Government Drive To Clear Cobwebs

RAW Sacks Four Senior Officers For Non-Performance, Part Of Government Drive To Clear Cobwebs

by Swarajya Staff -

Jul 30 2018,


RAW Sacks Four Senior Officers For Non-Performance, Part of Government Drive To Clear Cobwebs Research and Analysis Wing (RAW)

The country’s top external intelligence agency - the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has fired four of its senior officers at the joint secretary level for non-performance, Economic Times has reported.

The firings, happening over the last year, are part of a government drive to clean up all government departments of nonproductive officers at senior levels. The sackings have been pushed by the Department of Personnel and Training which back in 2015 let it be known that officers who have completed 30 years of service or have crossed 50 years of age could be let go under certain sections of law.

The officers who have been let go of the RAW has been repeatedly overlooked for promotions and had been turning “unproductive”. All the four senior officers had been serving in key posts in European countries.

According to the report, RAW has let go of compromised personnel earlier but usually under provisions that allowed them to seek remedy in courts.

Minister of State Jitendra Singh had told the Parliament last December that provisions to let go of officers under rule 56(j) had been invoked against 53 Group A officers and 123 Group B officers after July 2014. The said rule allows the government to prematurely terminate officers in public interest after due consideration of the officer’s service record.

[Sachin]

It's a question if whether there is political will for it. The gang Bandhan definitely won't persue this, intact they will oppose it tooth and nail.

The Main Stream Media is already at it.
1. All images related to NRC, I see are of Muslims (especially Muslim women in Burkhas). Clearly sending a (false) message that this is based on discrimination.
2. They are boosting up the SC order on NOT to take further action on the NRC, cleverly hiding the fact that this whole scheme was done based on a SC order itself. People's memory are short lived and MSM is now relying on that to spread false news.

[Gus]

^^ while I'm no fan of Rahul Gandi, some of these pictures are likely out of context. But then again, if it helps BJP, why not.

nope. that is his resting face.

[Gus]

choksi may get extradited. politically this will be a big boost and a good precedence for us as well, although antigua is a small country and not the UK. Just the fact that we can chase and get an economic offender is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRQC9Ba5cE

[crams]

I saw a BP rising hit job against BJP on the Assam NRC move on Al Jazeera. Boy that b!tch Rana Ayysub has some hatred of Hindus and she is given every platform to puke her bile. Joining her in the anti-BJP gang bang was that that senile pipsqueak Prem Shankar Jha. Abuses like "Hindu fascism" were freely thrown around. I Simply cannot believe that in every democratic country including 'greatest democracy' USA, even moderate Muslims are treated with extreme caution and the real p!ssful among them are bull dozed into submission, but when it comes to India, its the Hindus and those who stand up for Hindus who come under attack and vilification for even a simple thing as protecting India's borders. I mean in no other country will Muslim so called 'intellectuals' like Rana Ayyub, Saba Naqui, Irfan Habib etc, the list goes on will be given a podium to abuse Hindus with the vilest of epithets and insinuations. This is how much India has been rendered a eunuch country thanks to 70+ years of Congoon pseudo secularism and neo colonial rule over rustic native Hindus.

[JohnTitor]

The Main Stream Media is already at it.
1. All images related to NRC, I see are of Muslims (especially Muslim women in Burkhas). Clearly sending a (false) message that this is based on discrimination.
2. They are boosting up the SC order on NOT to take further action on the NRC, cleverly hiding the fact that this whole scheme was done based on a SC order itself. People's memory are short lived and MSM is now relying on that to spread false news.

Yep. It has already begun.

After a while, not being on the NRC won't mean anything.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/exclus ... 229203.cms

[sanjayC]

I saw a BP rising hit job against BJP on the Assam NRC move on Al Jazeera. Boy that b!tch Rana Ayysub has some hatred of Hindus and she is given every platform to puke her bile. Joining her in the anti-BJP gang bang was that that senile pipsqueak Prem Shankar Jha. Abuses like "Hindu fascism" were freely thrown around. I Simply cannot believe that in every democratic country including 'greatest democracy' USA, even moderate Muslims are treated with extreme caution and the real p!ssful among them are bull dozed into submission, but when it comes to India, its the Hindus and those who stand up for Hindus who come under attack and vilification for even a simple thing as protecting India's borders. I mean in no other country will Muslim so called 'intellectuals' like Rana Ayyub, Saba Naqui, Irfan Habib etc, the list goes on will be given a podium to abuse Hindus with the vilest of epithets and insinuations. This is how much India has been rendered a eunuch country thanks to 70+ years of Congoon pseudo secularism and neo colonial rule over rustic native Hindus.

The problem is the Hindu collaborators who collude with Muslims against the Hindu community. In this case, it is Prem Shankar Jha. In every such case, you will find a Hindu collaborator egging on the Muslims. Sibbal was fighting court case in SC against Ram Temple. Indira Jaisingh is targetting Sabarimala. It is people with Hindu names who write articles against India in Washington Post, etc. or take their complaints against India to British Parliament, etc. It is always the Hindu collaborator who empowers enemies of Hindus.

[shravanp]

The Main Stream Media is already at it.
1. All images related to NRC, I see are of Muslims (especially Muslim women in Burkhas). Clearly sending a (false) message that this is based on discrimination.
2. They are boosting up the SC order on NOT to take further action on the NRC, cleverly hiding the fact that this whole scheme was done based on a SC order itself. People's memory are short lived and MSM is now relying on that to spread false news.

Yep. It has already begun.

After a while, not being on the NRC won't mean anything.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/exclus ... 229203.cms

I think the headline is misleading. From the same article

He said people excluded from the NRC would not be automatically removed from the electoral rolls of Assam as registration as a voter governed by 3 criteria as under the Representation of the People Act, 1950.

First they need to be citizen of India, secondly they should be above 18 years of age on January 1 of the year of enrolment, and third, they should ordinarily be a resident of the legislative assembly constituency in which enrolment as a voter is sought. People will have to satisfy the electoral registration officers that they are citizens of India to be part of the voter list and they can use documents available with them to support their claim. The EC voter enrolment exercise is independent of the NRC, though authorities responsible for the two lists are working in sync.

(Cut/Pasting from ToI is not easy nowadays)

[JohnTitor]

I think you missed the point. If you are not on NRC, then you theoretically not a citizen. So the rest of the conditions are moot. Of course the assumption is that the list is not faulty.

In any case, my point was that this whole thing will die a silent death and the BDs and other illegals will continue to stay. The NRC means nothing without follow-up actions.

[prahaar]

I saw the video, the news channels are misrepresenting what the CEC said. His point was that someone who is citizen of India but not in NRC Assam, but a citizen of India with proof from other states is still capable to vote in India. January 2019 will be the electoral roll to be used for 2019. Kiren Rijiju or RNSji has said that electoral rolls and other such steps are a follow up to the NRC finalization.

[chetak]

Unbelievable Indian media and their state of knowledge and that too an "accredited" news agency.

Is there any reason for us to trust these illiterate buffoons??

ANI Verified account @ANI

Sunanda Pushkar Case: Delhi's Patiala House Court allows Shashi Tharoor to travel abroad, directs him to furnish a fixed deposit receipt (and not Flight Data Recorder as reported earlier. error regretted) of Rs 2 lakh before it, which shall be refunded after his return (file pic)



1:13 AM - 1 Aug 2018

[JohnTitor]

Lol.. morons

[Nandu]

I saw the video, the news channels are misrepresenting what the CEC said. His point was that someone who is citizen of India but not in NRC Assam, but a citizen of India with proof from other states is still capable to vote in India. January 2019 will be the electoral roll to be used for 2019. Kiren Rijiju or RNSji has said that electoral rolls and other such steps are a follow up to the NRC finalization.

Will someone please clarify this point? Let us say some one from Tamil Nadu relocates to Guwahati on grounds of work. He/she was on the voter list in TN and for the sake of argument let us also assume that his/her citizenship of the country is not in dispute. Can such a person seek to register as a voter in Assam and vote in the ensuing election as opposed to someone whose name is not on NCR?

[Sachin]

The problem is the Hindu collaborators who collude with Muslims against the Hindu community... It is always the Hindu collaborator who empowers enemies of Hindus.

I think this has been a problem from day one in the history of Hinduism. Things were okay when it was Hindu groups/kings fighting another Hindu groups/kings. But things changed when foreign invaders (and religions they brought in) came into play. From what I could make out, Hindu community after many centuries of alien rule have started accepting that their religion can never be a "fighting force" against the opponents. And if their day to day existence is not threatened they are quite willing to keep their religion in their home.

Off-late due to "secularism" gaining ground another generation of Hindus have come up with an extreme mind set of self-loathing. From what I have observed any Hindu who has gained some self-worth in life generally starts abusing his/her religion. These people strongly believe that it was Hindu religion which pulled them down, and since they have now come up (!?) the religion has to be completely pushed down, as a revenge or what ever one wish to call it. Off course we cannot ignore the whole concept of "secularism" rolled down on India by some smart alecs right after Independence, which ensured that the majority should be kept as clue-less idiots so that a group of "elite brown sahebs" can rule the country for ever.

I was observing two issues in KL recently.
1) Sabari Mala & women. The communist Hindus(!?) wanted the system to change mainly to prove a point, and show their own relevance. The KL communists have been poaching people who were involved social movements in KL; even when that movement happened before communist party was formed. In KL CPI(M) is trying to hard to be seen as a "reformist & aetheist" organisation. Changing Hindu religious beliefs is an easy target to them. How ever they did hit a road block when public thoughts were against them. Their only hope is now an SC verdict and that they are now a government (who can try forcing changes). The "Hindu communists" are the classic examples of Hindus who have no clue on their own identity, belief system and the rich legacies of their own past.
2) A semi-pornographic novel which abused temple going women and priest community. The author of this novel was defended by two groups of people. One were the good old communists who found a love for "freedom of expression". Again because they cannot talk this to a Christian believer of Islamist. The second group, surprisingly were "liberal" Hindus; many of them women. This group were mainly financially well-off, were not involved in any religious activities and really did not see any benefit in associating with a temple of their own community. This group was really Hindus ashamed of themselves, who were trying for an image make over.

Will someone please clarify this point? Let us say some one from Tamil Nadu relocates to Guwahati on grounds of work. He/she was on the voter list in TN and for the sake of argument let us also assume that his/her citizenship of the country is not in dispute. Can such a person seek to register as a voter in Assam and vote in the ensuing election as opposed to someone whose name is not on NCR?

What generally happens is that before any major election the electoral/voting rolls gets updated. There is good media publicity given for the same. So the person from Tamil Nadu has to approach the office where the electoral rolls are getting updated. They would ask for identity/residence proof etc. And he can give the TN Voter ID to prove that he is the bonafide citizen of India. What would -ideally- happen next is that he gets added to the voters list at Guwahati, with EC informing TN authorities to strike his name out from the voters list in TN. This was a cumbersome process and chances of this working in reality was not very high. Aadhaar again was planned to be used to fix this.

[Sachin]

Mean while Jr.Gowdru at Karnataka is in for another surprise.
Centre says K'taka agreed to lift Bandipur traffic ban; and this has got the forest official and environmentalists totally confused.
Centre pressures Karnataka on Bandipur night traffic ban, CM not convinced . Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy has assured the forest officials of abiding by the earlier government’s decision to continue with the ban from 9 pm to 6 am.

Kerala is already day-dreaming about the lifting of the ban (caring two hoots for jungle animals) as they feel Centre wants K'taka to lift night travel ban in Bandipur. But folks at KL does not seem know that the Centre also expects KA and KL to share the costs of buidling an elevated highway etc with a very small budget of Rs 46,000 crore . KL's next demand would be that communal forces governing India should not show a step-motherly attitude to KL and give the money as well.

[Nandu]

Sachin
Your post as below
What generally happens is that before any major election the electoral/voting rolls gets updated. There is good media publicity given for the same. So the person from Tamil Nadu has to approach the office where the electoral rolls are getting updated. They would ask for identity/residence proof etc. And he can give the TN Voter ID to prove that he is the bonafide citizen of India. What would -ideally- happen next is that he gets added to the voters list at Guwahati, with EC informing TN authorities to strike his name out from the voters list in TN. This was a cumbersome process and chances of this working in reality was not very high. Aadhaar again was planned to be used to fix this.
The person from TN would not have been on the NCR in Assam before that. Yet now he gets to have his name included in the electoral rolls by virtue of his name having earlier appeared in an electoral roll in some other part of the country. So there you are. The 40 odd lakh aliens will have their names included in the voter list in WB, courtesy Mamata Didi. Deletion in the rolls in WB and inclusion in electoral in Assam back once again is end of story. It may not happen by 2019. But not too far later either.
Am I reading it right? Happy to be corrected of course.

[Sachin]

The person from TN would not have been on the NCR in Assam before that. Yet now he gets to have his name included in the electoral rolls by virtue of his name having earlier appeared in an electoral roll in some other part of the country. So there you are. The 40 odd lakh aliens will have their names included in the voter list in WB, courtesy Mamata Didi. Deletion in the rolls in WB and inclusion in electoral in Assam back once again is end of story. It may not happen by 2019. But not too far later either.
Am I reading it right? Happy to be corrected of course.

For the person from TN him being not in NCR is not a problem at all. Because he is already a citizen of India, which he proves by his voter ID card in TN. The possibility you mentioned; i.e 40 lakh all coming up with West Bengal based addresses is certainly very high. And it is not going to happen after NCR, but it has been happening for many many years. "Bengali" labour now have flown into Southern India, it is an open secret that most of these folks are Bangladeshis who have managed to get all ID cards from West Bengal. So Mamta (and her predecessors) have got the infrastructure ready and piloted.

I don't know if the Assamese govt. has collected the basic details of all the people NOT included in the NRC list. Without that the only way to stop this folks getting settled else where would be by stopping their physical movement. This is highly impractical. People like Mamta who has absolutely no-sense of national safety & security would be willing to sell the state to Bangladesh if that helps her get more votes .

[abhik]

Election id cards are extremely easy to get, there is hardly any sort of verification at all. Names are removed from the rolls in (seemingly) random fashion and almost anybody applying gets new cards. Without aadhar linking it just cannot be fixed.

[Gus]

what's with the choksi lawyer coming out and saying 'loose alliance with congress'?

are they looking for some deal, now that antigue might extradite him?

[KL Dubey]

Discussion on NRC-Assam is veering off into fine details such as the possibility of Indians with citizenship proof from other states not being in the NRC draft, etc. As mentioned earlier there is a 1-month period for any legit persons to prove their citizenship.

The successful conclusion of the NRC will end up deleting a large number of illegal BDs from the electoral rolls. This will hugely damage the prospects of INC and AIUDF. INC-Assam has basically become a "green" party (15/25 MLAs are green) and of course the AIUDF (12/13 greens + 1 Hindoo collaborator).

Meanwhile Amit Shah takes the attack on illegal BDs directly to Kolkata. This is all part of a coordinated plan. I would not be surprised if the next NRC will be for WB. Any guesses on what number of WB population are illegals ?

[KL Dubey]

Assam 2016 elections:

http://www.elections.in/assam/assembly- ... sults.html

At least 20-25 seats (out of 126) lost or narrowly won by NDA with thin margins of <5000 votes. These results are almost certainly due to voting by illegals.

[Sachin]

Meanwhile Amit Shah takes the attack on illegal BDs directly to Kolkata. This is all part of a coordinated plan. I would not be surprised if the next NRC will be for WB. Any guesses on what number of WB population are illegals ?

All I can say is that if such a scheme is actually implemented, there would be severe labour shortage in KL .