MehtaRahulC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:29 am
RSS is Gangadhar and VHP/BJP are shakimaan and they are one the same.
syam wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:08 am
I actually understand what you are saying. Every organisation faces this type of problem. Top leadership rarely interacts with bottom tier cadres. They mostly give commands and cadre just follows. Only issue is, you accusing rss for every thing out there. I seldom see any rss guy on tv or paper. Last time I had seen them, they were helping some flood victims. Why should I believe what you are saying? There is no material on them. Only persons I know are Mohan Baagwat and few others whose name I don't even know. How can we make accusations when we don't know who is who??
Missionaries also help fllod victims, poor etc and give food/medicine etc to poor. But their is to convert, not to serve. And once people convert, they attend Sunday congregations. And via Sunday congregations, they can be fed with beliefs that help usuk-elitemen. And so usuk-elitemen across world help missionaries.
So rss-workers also help flood victims so that victims and people who see them helping victims become rss voters so that rss leaders win elections. IOW, all this social work is only to create a space in minds of voters to collect vote for rss.
Best way to know ideology of a workers is to see what law-drafts he supports and what law-drafst he refuses to support, on twitter/fb and newindia dot in (newindia dot in is PM's website, where people can put law-drafts they want and get do voting. See newindia.in/causes/RtrDeo2 as an example. This is new, so one may not know about it for now). Do you see rss-workers promoting law-drafts to remove govt control over temples over fb/twitter? NO. Do you see them promoting law-drafts to bring down land hoarding in India? NO. IOW, what they dont do speaks volumes about what they want , and why they want so.
The congress/rss/aap workers who are below 30 years of age and very fluent with internet has no confusion now They fully know domination of usuk-elitemen in India is growing due to FDI, they know that Missionaries have huge land and thats the principal source of their strength, and they know usuk-elitemen own much of paidmedia in India today. They want their organizations and leaders to prevail, and so they know that they must let their leaders namely SoMoKe server usuk-elitemen and missionaries. And so these coraap-workers never ask their leaders to print laws that can make usuk-elitemen or missionaries or indian desi land hoarders angry.
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Aditya_V wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:47 am
Alternate Political Parties will emerge, but we need to in 10-15 years to remove the Ecosystem put in place by the Left-Gandhi(Nehru) family in the first place. They have a clear post Hindu India ideology.
Aditya_V is making a comment favoring alternate political parties? I though anyone who wanted "alternate" party was someone who wants congress to win and he is BIF !!
I have been saying since 1998, and since I arrived on BRF since year 2000, that "nationalists true -secular, true-pro-poor, true-anti-corruption etc should ignore congress/rss/cpi (now cpi label is replaced by aap), and instead work to form REAL nationalist party" . And here you say almost same, except use word "alternate political parties".
if a section of rss-leaders and rss-workers think that by helping RaGa and his temple run, Hindus can gain, then they are wrong. RaGa is like many missionaries who wear bhagawa cloth and also sing bhajans !! Yes, there are missionaries who wear bhagwa on Hindu festivals days, and sing bhajans, and words like Krishna are replaced by Christ !! Church celebrates Hindu festivals so that semi-coverted flock doesnt visit temples on those days and instead come to church. But their goal is to gradually erase Hindu rituals.
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SCjs have sold out to BIF and unbanned Padmavati movie across India. And as expected, you see congress/rss/aap workers praising SCjs of their landmark judgments, their commitment to free speech and their patriotism.
Solution I propose is Jury System to decide if movie should be released of banned. A Jury of 50 to 1500 Jurors should be chosen at random from voterlist of state/India to decide if the movie should banned or not. Jurors will not sell out like SCjs or magistrates. Now if I am in Jury, I would ban Padmavti under IPC section-295 and section-295A and also fine movie makers and also imprison movie makers and lead actors and lead actresses for say 3 years to 1 year. If you are in Jury, you may do same or opposite or different. Each Juror decides on his own, and Juror doesnt have to give reason to anyone. My guess is that no matter which 1500 random Indian voters are chosen, they would have ban Padmavati, Also, in the law-draft I have supported, decision of Jurors can be changed by referendum. So BIF can bribe a few judges, but cant ban 100s of Jurors and crores of voters.
But as expected, Karni sena, an RSS outfit, leaders didnt demand any Right to recall judge law, didnt demand any referendum, didnt demand any Jury Trial and simply started with nonsense of "kill this actor, kill that director" and all that nonsense. Looks like they were more interested in projecting anti-Padmavati-people as savages than really getting the movie banned.
Togadia had said that he would oppose the Padmavati movie. Lets see what he does now.
Vikas wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:27 am
PS: Mehta Ji, On NBJP nexus and corruption, I somehow find myself agreeing with you.
(a) AWMTA
(means All wise men think alike
)
(b) sooner of later, one has to believe in God
(c) sooner or later, one has to agree with RM a common
(d) above three statements mean one and same