The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by KL Dubey » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:43 am

I hope the "other" Rahul of the Gujarat election (our very own Mehtaji) managed to get his deposit back.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:57 am

The Media is trying this Modi and BJP different, they are trying to create a Hemu Vs Akbar trap. We should not fall for it.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by patni » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:01 am

The good outcome is that central government will now go full on and gloves shall come off in handling anyone with Anti-India or divisive divide and rule agenda!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rupesh » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:26 am

If Dhumal loses, then who will be the Cm?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:29 am

At this juncture, let us not forget the oncoming storm -the CPI(M). The "national" party has managed to win one seat in Himachal Pradesh. I am sure this is just the beginning for a communist revolution.
independent and CPM has won a seat each .

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:40 am

OK, the only region Congress made gains was in Saurashtra where it gained 15 seats. So is it caste or lack of progress? We know that Saurashtra is the most backward region of backward. Did not Narmada project not make a difference? How to make gains in Saurashtra?

Are patels more in number in Saurashtra?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:40 am

Rupesh wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:26 am
If Dhumal loses, then who will be the Cm?
BJP MlA will resign and Dhumal will recontest


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:46 am

:oops: ECI Websits, INC 77- BJP 100 :roll:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:48 am

Congress is winning 55% of rural seats to BJPs 45%. I think there is no way to satisfy rural voters except industrialize and urbanize them.
Urban Seats: 85% BJP, 15% Congress.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:57 am

Patel seats : 51% BJP, 49% Congress
Non Patel seats: 57% BJP, 41% Congress

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by kvjayan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:58 am

Interestingly, Congis are not making any noise about EVMs, at least till now.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:02 am

hanumadu wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:48 am
Congress is winning 55% of rural seats to BJPs 45%. I think there is no way to satisfy rural voters except industrialize and urbanize them.
Urban Seats: 85% BJP, 15% Congress.
Most of these seats are in Saurasthra which has faced difficulties of heavy flooding this year, a black swan event and shot in the arm of the INC, the Narmada canal benefit will come for the first time year to these regions. This will change the voting percentage and being relatively poor these voters are easier to buy.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:05 am

G.Kishan Reddy,MLA.‏Verified account
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Interesting. All Congress big wigs loose:
(1) Siddharth Patel-Losing
(2) Arjun Modhwadia-Lost
(3) Shaktisinh Gohil-Lost
(4) Tushar Chaudhary-Lost
(5) Bharat Solanki-Didnt contest.
Now Congress has to depend on outsourced leader in #Gujarat Vidhansabha.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandrasekaran » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:18 am

ECI website now says BJP 98 and Congress 78 !!! Yikes, I hope there's isn't a last minute swing in the leads and wins :(

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:25 am

having stayed in Gujarat for years I am quite worried for
-Guj is a BJP bastion and cong making inroads this way portends bad for rest of India
-Patels for sure got split and a large faction voted for congress (KHAM comeback)
-Saurashtra does have a large patel faction where congress gained
-Youth in Guj who are in fresh voting age have not seen misrule of cong as BJP is there since 22 years
-Caste is a tool which can still be used effectively to rip apart Hindutva
-Indications are that Muslims voted for cong en bloc
-There is anger amongst hardliners of Hindutva re Modi not acting upon RTE, minority subsidy etc.
-Saurasthra where Modi brought water had voted for congress
-game has changed or is changing youth wants jobs/my rights more than development/gdp jhunjhuna ..


btw at this moment
BJP 99: Cong 80

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:27 am

poor implementation of GST costed dearly and notebandi as well..!!
If Amit Shah had not toured Guj extensively around Diwali and fixed GST rates etc this was a gone game.
my own friends based in India who have small businesses are suffering miserably after demo and GST as companies they supply oart purja for are not able to pay..!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:30 am

kvjayan wrote:Interestingly, Congis are not making any noise about EVMs, at least till now.
They can't. Because then that means tampering could have happened in the EVMs used in the constituencies one by them :lol:. So they will not bring that issue up now.
Chandrasekaran wrote:ECI website now says BJP 98 and Congress 78 !!! Yikes, I hope there's isn't a last minute swing in the leads and wins
ECI updates are generally more reliable, as their updates are after completing every paper work and official reviews etc. The media generally go with much more unverified reports. But at the end of it, generally there are no major changes between ECI web site and the media.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:43 am

There are still 6 Lakh votes to be counted and 112 seats to be declared.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by gauravsh » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:08 am

its 96 to 83 now ...... :shock:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:10 am

As per ECI website 99 to 77

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by vinu » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:10 am

Indrad wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:25 am
having stayed in Gujarat for years I am quite worried for
-Youth in Guj who are in fresh voting age have not seen misrule of cong as BJP is there since 22 years
Haven't the youth witnessed the misrule and looting of Con systems for during the 10 years of UPA role? This may not be a major reason.
Indrad wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:25 am
-Patels for sure got split and a large faction voted for congress (KHAM comeback)
-Saurashtra does have a large patel faction where congress gained
-Caste is a tool which can still be used effectively to rip apart Hindutva
-Indications are that Muslims voted for cong en bloc
The above are very valid reasons.
Congress tasted the blood by it's very old formula i.e one majority caste + it's traditional vote bank of ( Muslims + Xians + Dalits). Will it work at Pan India level? especially where other parties claim the same vote banks on their own like in UP?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:13 am

The Unusual floods in Saurashtra region this year is also anther reason for the INC wave there. Narmada water will have its affect only next summer.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by gauravsh » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:18 am

Aditya_V wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:10 am
As per ECI website 99 to 77
Add NCP and Bhartiya Tribal Party's count to INC

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:18 am

And Jignesh Mevani

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