The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:31 am

vishvak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:09 am
you can't just wish them away.
Where are we going with this crap. In democracy Muslims who had to not be secular went to pakilands.

How come that question comes up again in democracy - it's because of votebanks that are based on religion. In other words, due to effect of religion, democracy is reduced to religious sleight of hand to deceive heatheins pegeins koofr.
If there was a PM candidate who was a clone of Modi but not Hindu and he was running against RaGa (assume here for a minute that he is a certified Hindu). Who would you vote for?
Why this - not Modi but.. presume RaGa as junoidhari ul-ta- certified .. kind of argument. People have already clearly stated how it's just for votes even when in certain part he is called born Christian for votes. Why overlook all the arguments above just to turn around some questions.
In 1947, an aggrieved community or "a separate nation" as they called themselves took more than their fair share of India's land and walked out with the avowed intention of establishing a "land of the pure"

they purposely left behind a ghazwa e hind entity in India, after they had taken their share and departed because that was what their adharmic and desert cult demanded.

What is left behind is not something to be shared or sliced up like a pie or some cake with every adharmic and cultish joker who today stands up screaming and claiming inequality and screaming that his share be once again delivered to him, essentially another share, in a land that was once divided now belongs to the other with whom they claimed that they could never coexist.

That share has been duly delivered, the nation has been cruelly vivisected, and yet we are somehow still liable to look after these goons and mollycoddle them in the name of minorities??

emboldened by this lax attitude of the dharmics, another strident minority with open offshore support is raising its adharmic and desert cult head, looking for another parting of ways as also another vivisection as evidenced in its activities in TN, AP, KER, eelam and the NE.

While the parsis and some tribes in the andaman island chain and suchlike may truly be considered minorities because of a very distinctive genetic diversity, how is the minority tag even applied to groups who have an identical genetic makeup, a larger cultural commonality, as well as linguistic association and affiliation, shared ancestry of tens of thousands of years with the so called majority??

These very "minorities" are existing in much larger numbers globally than the so called majority in India and they have a huge support of money, influence and political support used mainly to subvert, convert, suppress and wrest even more "rights" for themselves, the very same "rights" denied the Hindus in their own adharmic and cult following lands.

Its high time that we redifined the word minority and accorded reciprocal facilities and recognition to these cults as they do for Hindus resident in their countries.

Except for truly minority cases like the parsis etc, people in this geographic location and region simply and culturally Identify themselves as Hindus without covert or even overt religious bias. They should keep their religion at home and behave like Indians.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:51 am

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Primus » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:33 am

vishvak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:09 am
you can't just wish them away.
Where are we going with this crap. In democracy Muslims who had to not be secular went to pakilands.

How come that question comes up again in democracy - it's because of votebanks that are based on religion. In other words, due to effect of religion, democracy is reduced to religious sleight of hand to deceive heatheins pegeins koofr.

I understand all of what you are trying to say. My point is that on the one side there is wishful thinking and the other side is the practical reality. No matter what you feel about the past or how much you do not want them to be in India, you cannot just 'get rid of them'. I am not arguing about the rights of minorities vs majority, I am completely in agreement with you there, Indian governments have successively failed to correct the tyranny of the minority voter. It is a fact in any democracy - the American system is no different where the blacks/latinos vote as a single entity and are thus wooed by every Democrat. As long as you have a democratic system of elections, you will find minorities exerting undue influence upon the polity. Especially if they are a significant minority. There is a critical mass after which their influence wanes, but this is all established fact and not specific to India.
If there was a PM candidate who was a clone of Modi but not Hindu and he was running against RaGa (assume here for a minute that he is a certified Hindu). Who would you vote for?
Why this - not Modi but.. presume RaGa as junoidhari ul-ta- certified .. kind of argument. People have already clearly stated how it's just for votes even when in certain part he is called born Christian for votes. Why overlook all the arguments above just to turn around some questions.
Again, I am only using RaGa as an example. The point was that if you have two candidates - one Hindu and the other non-Hindu and the latter was like Modi (i.e. true patriot and interested in national security and growth), but the former was like RaGa, interested in becoming the PM only for personal gains, who would you vote for? The question is, would Hindus vote for a guy who was Hindu but not interested in the nation or even the welfare of Hindus, simply because he is a Hindu? If yes, then we are truly doomed.

And for the record, I too have read all the same books and my blood boils too, when I think of the atrocities Hindus have suffered at the hands of Islamic iconoclasm and Christian persecution. I am just being more realistic in today's political and socio-economic set up.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Primus » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:49 am

chetak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:31 am


In 1947, an aggrieved community or "a separate nation" as they called themselves took more than their fair share of India's land and walked out with the avowed intention of establishing a "land of the pure"

they purposely left behind a ghazwa e hind entity in India, after they had taken their share and departed because that was what their adharmic and desert cult demanded.

What is left behind is not something to be shared or sliced up like a pie or some cake with every adharmic and cultish joker who today stands up screaming and claiming inequality and screaming that his share be once again delivered to him, essentially another share, in a land that was once divided now belongs to the other with whom they claimed that they could never coexist.

That share has been duly delivered, the nation has been cruelly vivisected, and yet we are somehow still liable to look after these goons and mollycoddle them in the name of minorities??

emboldened by this lax attitude of the dharmics, another strident minority with open offshore support is raising its adharmic and desert cult head, looking for another parting of ways as also another vivisection as evidenced in its activities in TN, AP, KER, eelam and the NE.

While the parsis and some tribes in the andaman island chain and suchlike may truly be considered minorities because of a very distinctive genetic diversity, how is the minority tag even applied to groups who have an identical genetic makeup, a larger cultural commonality, as well as linguistic association and affiliation, shared ancestry of tens of thousands of years with the so called majority??

These very "minorities" are existing in much larger numbers globally than the so called majority in India and they have a huge support of money, influence and political support used mainly to subvert, convert, suppress and wrest even more "rights" for themselves, the very same "rights" denied the Hindus in their own adharmic and cult following lands.

Its high time that we redifined the word minority and accorded reciprocal facilities and recognition to these cults as they do for Hindus resident in their countries.

Except for truly minority cases like the parsis etc, people in this geographic location and region simply and culturally Identify themselves as Hindus without covert or even overt religious bias. They should keep their religion at home and behave like Indians.
I agree with all that you say, Ma Bharati was vivisected to accommodate the demands of a strident religious faction and we all know what followed. We are also aware of the betrayal of the majority of the nation by its own leaders. Who do you blame for all this? The poor, illiterate guy in the street or the clever and glib politician who is desperate to remain in power and will speak from both sides of his/her mouth? Gandhi and Nehru, our 'beloved' leaders who we as the gullible Hindu public put on a pedestal and gave the reins of the nation to rule over us, let us down for their own ego-fulfillment and their legacy is what we are all burdened with today.

Having said that, what is the solution? Like I've been saying, how are you going to deal with 200 million non-Hindus? I am all for denying them special privileges, you cannot, in a true democracy have different sets of civil or other codes for different ethnic/religious/political groups. And yet, we do. Until Modi (or his avatar) can be given at least two more terms, this wrong cannot be set right.

However, my main point in all of this is that the religion of the leader is not what really matters. We have had Hindu leaders at the helm for 70 years, and look where we are. In the end, they are all subject to the same pressures, the same tyranny of the vote banks. Rajiv Gandhi with all his mandate could not even grant Shah Bano, a muslim woman her moral rights, forget about giving back to Hindus what they have long been denied.

what is needed is a Hindu at the top who is not vulnerable to the appeasement demands of the minorities. And he/she needs to be given at least two terms at the helm.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:23 pm

Primus wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:49 am
chetak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:31 am


In 1947, an aggrieved community or "a separate nation" as they called themselves took more than their fair share of India's land and walked out with the avowed intention of establishing a "land of the pure"

they purposely left behind a ghazwa e hind entity in India, after they had taken their share and departed because that was what their adharmic and desert cult demanded.

What is left behind is not something to be shared or sliced up like a pie or some cake with every adharmic and cultish joker who today stands up screaming and claiming inequality and screaming that his share be once again delivered to him, essentially another share, in a land that was once divided now belongs to the other with whom they claimed that they could never coexist.

That share has been duly delivered, the nation has been cruelly vivisected, and yet we are somehow still liable to look after these goons and mollycoddle them in the name of minorities??

emboldened by this lax attitude of the dharmics, another strident minority with open offshore support is raising its adharmic and desert cult head, looking for another parting of ways as also another vivisection as evidenced in its activities in TN, AP, KER, eelam and the NE.

While the parsis and some tribes in the andaman island chain and suchlike may truly be considered minorities because of a very distinctive genetic diversity, how is the minority tag even applied to groups who have an identical genetic makeup, a larger cultural commonality, as well as linguistic association and affiliation, shared ancestry of tens of thousands of years with the so called majority??

These very "minorities" are existing in much larger numbers globally than the so called majority in India and they have a huge support of money, influence and political support used mainly to subvert, convert, suppress and wrest even more "rights" for themselves, the very same "rights" denied the Hindus in their own adharmic and cult following lands.

Its high time that we redifined the word minority and accorded reciprocal facilities and recognition to these cults as they do for Hindus resident in their countries.

Except for truly minority cases like the parsis etc, people in this geographic location and region simply and culturally Identify themselves as Hindus without covert or even overt religious bias. They should keep their religion at home and behave like Indians.
I agree with all that you say, Ma Bharati was vivisected to accommodate the demands of a strident religious faction and we all know what followed. We are also aware of the betrayal of the majority of the nation by its own leaders. Who do you blame for all this? The poor, illiterate guy in the street or the clever and glib politician who is desperate to remain in power and will speak from both sides of his/her mouth? Gandhi and Nehru, our 'beloved' leaders who we as the gullible Hindu public put on a pedestal and gave the reins of the nation to rule over us, let us down for their own ego-fulfillment and their legacy is what we are all burdened with today.

Having said that, what is the solution? Like I've been saying, how are you going to deal with 200 million non-Hindus? I am all for denying them special privileges, you cannot, in a true democracy have different sets of civil or other codes for different ethnic/religious/political groups. And yet, we do. Until Modi (or his avatar) can be given at least two more terms, this wrong cannot be set right.

However, my main point in all of this is that the religion of the leader is not what really matters. We have had Hindu leaders at the helm for 70 years, and look where we are. In the end, they are all subject to the same pressures, the same tyranny of the vote banks. Rajiv Gandhi with all his mandate could not even grant Shah Bano, a muslim woman her moral rights, forget about giving back to Hindus what they have long been denied.

what is needed is a Hindu at the top who is not vulnerable to the appeasement demands of the minorities. And he/she needs to be given at least two terms at the helm.
no need to deny privileges to anyone. let them keep what they have.

just extend the very same rights and privileges to the majority and outlaw conversions in all religions

and remove the illegally thrust word "secular" from the constitution. This particular amendment never did have the approval of the parliament but was rammed through by the commies at the insistence of their foreign masters, exactly like they did in nepal

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by crams » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:54 pm

Guys, must admit, I don't know all the details due to travel etc, thats why I rely on my trusted friends here on BR :-). But I am seeing a lot of reports of defections by NE state BJP MLAs into the waiting arms of Pappu. Is this alarming? Is this more to it that bold headlines from BJP hating media?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Primus » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:41 pm

chetak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:23 pm


no need to deny privileges to anyone. let them keep what they have.

just extend the very same rights and privileges to the majority and outlaw conversions in all religions

and remove the illegally thrust word "secular" from the constitution. This particular amendment never did have the approval of the parliament but was rammed through by the commies at the insistence of their foreign masters, exactly like they did in nepal
We've all been saying this forever. But our leaders, all Hindus (or at least from native Indian faiths), have always managed to let us down because we as Hindus are so divided that we would rather become Dhimmis in our own land than see somebody of a different caste get ahead.

You can't really fault the leadership entirely, they will do whatever keeps them in power, and if it means dividing the Hindu votes, so be it. If it means denying Hindus their rights even after all these centuries of bias, so be it. If it means perpetuating and promoting an alien culture/creed to prosper and grow at the cost of native lives and aspirations, so be it.

In the end, people deserve the government they elect. Sad fact, but until we have a leader who is unafraid to call a spade a spade and has the mandate of the majority with him, nothing is going to change. One man does come to mine, Yogi Adityanath. But he too is plagued by the forces of evil that are desperate to bring him down.

To my mind, the best that can happen to India is for Modi Ji to get another term (or even two for all the economic reforms), and then for Yogi to take over for two more terms. That would go a very long way in reversing the evils perpetrated on the Hindu Majority. If you consider that the Dienasty has ruled for a collective 50 yrs or more, why does it seem impractical or impossible for the BJP led by these two to get the same opportunity?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:55 pm

Modi's blog


https://www.narendramodi.in




Narendra Modi’s blog targets a vocal and elite English-speaking audience, challenges Congress' clout in its last bastion

There is something scarily meticulous about Narendra Modi’s election campaign. He has never lost an election, and while there is always a first time for everything, the planning that goes behind his strategies are worth noting. The prime minister posted a blog Wednesday on his app, hitting out at Congress’ disrespect for institutions and reminded the readers of its checkered past undermining India’s public institutions and disrespecting the core values of the Constitution of India.

Before we come to the contents of the blog that has expectedly ruffled Congress' feathers, the pertinent question is why the blog? Why now? Whom is it addressed to? And what purpose may it serve?

Narendra Modi’s blog targets a vocal and elite English-speaking audience, challenges Congress clout in its last bastionFile image of Narendra Modi. Reuters
Modi is a 24x7 politician. He is an activist prime minister, motivated by reasons that are not easily apparent. Congress has erred in thinking that corruption charges could stick to him. It clearly hasn’t. Modi’s plan for India is grand and he wants to convey an impression to the electorate that the foundation stones for India’s quantum leap have been laid in his first term, so he must be allowed a second stint to finish the unfinished business and make India a major force in the comity of nations.

While that’s the grand plan, an election must be won and in a diverse and vast democracy such as India, there is no surety that the wave of 2014 would be repeated five years later. Modi was then a challenger. It was easier for him to sell dreams. Now he is an incumbent and is subjected to the laws of anti-incumbency. An account must be given whether he has been able to fulfil his promises. If the gap between promises and achievements is large enough, his re-election chances may fall within that abyss.

Modi’s campaign strategy, at one level, hinges on making the people aware of the work that has been done. In his speeches and rallies, we find frequent mention of Centre's schemes that have gained success such as Swachh Bharat, electricity in villages, cooking gas for poor households, neem-coated urea for farmers, financial inclusion through Jan Dhan accounts and linking them with Aadhaar and mobile phone numbers for easy and direct transfer of benefits to the poor to reduce spillage and corruption, major tax reforms such as GST, reforms such as Insolvency and Bankruptcy code that addresses banks’ NPA problems, and so on.

At another level, the prime minister has moved to assuage the sentiment of farmers who have been dealt a double whammy due to low inflation that meant a dip in food prices, reducing farmers’ incomes and forcing them to take more debts whereas improvement in irrigation facilities have led to a bumper crop that has to be dumped on the streets. Modi has clearly failed to tackle the crises plaguing agriculture sector in India. As an article on International Food Policy Research Institute's website says, to tackle the problems of high price volatility, climate risks, and indebtedness that affects Indian farmers, the Centre needs to increase incomes, generate more employment opportunities, reduce risks in agriculture and develop agri-infrastructure.

Modi did so by extending welfare benefits and announcing a new scheme, offering an annual payment of Rs 6,000 directly in the bank accounts of 100 million small and marginal farmers to provide some sort of income support. The budget also proved to be another tool for Modi where he addressed or sought to address the trading community and the middle class — both important constituencies for the Modi government that were feeling a little left out.

Having covered his base — or that’s what he may have calculated — Modi has now moved to address one more constituency through his blog that may have a limited electoral impact but wields a lot of influence in deciding the narratives before elections.

The blog is written in English, posted in his app. These conditions make it apparent that it is targeted towards a select, vocal, elite audience that takes part in social media and TV debates and has a firm grip over mediums of mass communication. The prime minister is aware that a significant section of this class is millennials or first-time voters who may not know about Congress’ past and its role in the darkest era of Indian democracy.

He went into some detail to clarify that Congress’ stance has always been antithetical to democracy — be it the imposition of Emergency or lack of internal democracy in its functioning. Since there is a lot of noise about freedom of expression being curtailed under the Modi government, the prime minister reminded the readers that the first amendment to the Constitution carried out by the Jawaharlal Nehru government was to curb free speech.

He then segued it with a recent incident in Congress-ruled Karnataka where “just a few days ago, the nation watched with horror when a few youngsters were arrested for expressing their true feelings at a programme in Karnataka, where the Congress is sharing power".

Modi’s biggest point was, however, the “contempt for the courts” that Congress has historically displayed starting from former prime minister Indira Gandhi’s attempts to undermine the independence of the judiciary by handpicking a pliant Chief Justice of India over his other respected colleagues.

“Congress’ contempt for the courts is anyway legendary. It was Mrs Indira Gandhi who called for a 'committed judiciary', which seeks to make the courts more loyal to a family than to the Constitution… This pursuit of a 'committed judiciary' made Congress overlook several respected Judges while appointing the Chief Justice of India. Congress’ modus operandi is simple- reject, discredit and threaten. If a judicial verdict goes against them, they reject it, then they discredit the judge and thereafter, talk about bringing impeachment motions against the judge,” he writes.

Modi also touches upon the disrespect shown towards the armed forces and government institutions such as the Parliament when in 2013 Rahul Gandhi had torn apart an ordinance in a news conference.

These incidents are well-known but the penning of the blog shows that Modi wants to push back against the recurrent Congress narrative that institutions and democracy are under threat from the Modi government. Congress should worry because challenging its clout in its very last bastion means that Modi is feeling secure about the other constituencies.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by crams » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:52 pm

I marvel and I am absolutely astounded at the speed and alacrity with which the Congoon ecosystem jumps in and provides a counter narrative to any event that is perceived to benefit ModiJi and BJP. I was just glancing through the headlines from usual ModiJi hating suspects on Nirav Modi's arrest in London. Instead of celebrating the arrest, or giving any credit whatsoever to ModiJi, the ferocious focus is on how he was allowed to escape under ModiJi's watch, how the chowkidar failed to stop him from fleeing, how it was London telegraph and not Indian govt that should get the credit, you name it. There will be many in the BJP camp, I mean supporters who will say BJP is on the defensive, could not hot back yada yada. And sometimes I am one of those. But against such a relentless assault by en entrenched well oiled machine, its not easy to counter attack.

But make no mistake, by any objective standard, when compared with any govt of yester year, be it on national security, be it on economy, be it on corruption, be it on Hinduthva, ModiJi has made the right moves that none could muster the courage to do so. And he needs more time, a lot more to set things right. I am hoping and praying Indian public will be wise enough to see this.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Rudradev » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:37 pm

Mayawati says she will not contest the 2019 GE!!!

https://www.republicworld.com/india-new ... f-mayawati

I have a CT here.

MAD had more than enough evidence of Mayawati's misdeeds and corruption to put her in jail (like Lalu) for a long time.

They cut a deal with her instead. Do what we say and you won't go to jail (we have many other corrupt fish to fry anyway, and courts will be busy for a long time).

First play footsie with Sonia Gandhi re: Mahagathbandhan. At the last minute, ditch the Congress. (Mayawati insisted that Congress would not be allowed into the SP-BSP alliance in UP)

Second, ditch the SP also by pulling out of the election herself at the 11th hour. BSP cadres will be mortified, confused, left in disarray by the sudden withdrawal of leadership. Old caste equations will be turned upside down. Huge caste vote-banks will now be up for grabs, but there is very little time for the new contenders to consolidate them. In such a situation, only those who knew in advance of Mayawati's plans would be in an advantageous position.

Factor in Modi's universal popularity as a PM and a sweep for BJP in UP looks more likely than ever.

Added later: if it had happened earlier, and given Congress time to react, the withdrawal of Mayawati could have been a huge advantage for the Congress (many Dalits and Muslim votes earlier going to BSP-SP alliance might have gone to Cong instead). But instead Congress was going after the UC votes by overplaying the "janeu-dhari Hindu card" :lol:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Rajesh_MR » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:42 pm

I don't she has been contesting elections for a while. Focuses on campaigning for party candidates and enters RS/Assembly through nomination

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Post by Kumar » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:36 am

Don't understand who the targeted audience of the above blog. Are they trying to get some votes from liberal crowd? IMO it is not only a wasted effort chasing them but also irritates the existing supporters. Most of the Modi supporters don't like his love affair with the far left leaning supreme court. Because of the fear towards SC, he hasn't used his executive powers to solve many problems of the majority community facing in the court against Hinduism. Sabarimala is the latest example where he didn't do anything to solve using executive powers. I hope he address these issues in his second term and any attempt to morph into Vajpayee needs to be prevented. Although India is called a democratic country, it is now being ruled by non elected Supreme court judges. Funny thing is that Supreme court judges are nominated by their own judges mafia gang without any accountability and it has become another dynasty rule with family members, sons of past judges getting nominated.

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Post by chetak » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:46 am

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Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:36 am
Don't understand who the targeted audience of the above blog. Are they trying to get some votes from liberal crowd? IMO it is not only a wasted effort chasing them but also irritates the existing supporters. Most of the Modi supporters don't like his love affair with the far left leaning supreme court. Because of the fear towards SC, he hasn't used his executive powers to solve many problems of the majority community facing in the court against Hinduism. Sabarimala is the latest example where he didn't do anything to solve using executive powers. I hope he address these issues in his second term and any attempt to morph into Vajpayee needs to be prevented. Although India is called a democratic country, it is now being ruled by non elected Supreme court judges. Funny thing is that Supreme court judges are nominated by their own judges mafia gang without any accountability and it has become another dynasty rule with family members, sons of past judges getting nominated.
The targeted audience is anyone who needs to see both sides of the coin, an alternative to the fake narrative purposefully pushed by the hired gora guns of the congis, the shady ill-begotten harvard professors, the hired conscienceless mercenaries and the evil, immoral cambridge analytica offshoots that have moved into the Indian election mind space with a specific mandate of suppressing a counter narrative to the same old poisonous agenda pushed by shady gardeners in rome who see planting as their birthright, no matter the extreme cultural aggression it unleashes upon the docile Hindu populace, the gluttonously envious, the ever jealous and constantly conniving perfidious albion and the european cohorts that have panicked over their loss of control, influence and most vitally, the complete lack of access to the political dispensation that was until now traditionally susceptible to bribes, influence and inducements of FFNGOs like the ford and other foundations that so easily shaped our national policies and market access regulations.

Do you think that things like promissory notes originating anonymously in mauritius, singapore, the massive NPA crises of the PSU banks, the panama papers, the presence of nutcases like the idiotic, disastrous and garrulous raghu ram rajan and his poisonous pals driving policy are mere coincidences??

You have missed whole the point of the blog by a country mile.

Why is the blog in english??

That, by itself, should give you the major part of the answer.

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Post by chetak » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:54 am

Rajesh_MR wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:42 pm
I don't she has been contesting elections for a while. Focuses on campaigning for party candidates and enters RS/Assembly through nomination
Uncertainty in the name of Modi and its effect on the electoral outcomes in UP specifically is the reason for such extreme and prudent caution.

Undoubtedly, files are open on major UP politicians but it is their fault that they put themselves in such positions of vulnerability, no??

No one put a gun to their heads and asked them or their family members to steal.

She also took a major hit in the demonetization and her own brother has his head on the proverbial chopping block for his ill gotten wealth.

politics is a game that all can play, no?? and the BJP is no slouch when it comes to applying industry best practices. ;)







also

if a mere servant can acquire so much wealth, what to say about the malkin??

Ex-IAS officer's assets worth Rs 225 crore attached for 'tax evasion'


Netram, a 1979 batch IAS officer, held key positions during Mayawati's tenure as Uttar Pradesh CM in 2007 and 2012.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Kumar » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:24 am

I was referring to the bolded part in the blog about Supreme court (link below). Modi''s biggest weakness/failure during the first term is fear of SC to protect Hindu traditions. If he is not able to fight the SC to keep the hindu traditions, then why should they vote for him. He needs to copy what Indira Gandhi did regarding judges so that court don't enforce their liberal ideologies on everyone.

https://www.narendramodi.in/institution ... hes-544133

Congress’ contempt for the courts is anyway legendary. It was Mrs. Indira Gandhi who called for a “committed judiciary”, which seeks to make the courts more loyal to a family than to the Constitution.

This pursuit of a “committed judiciary” made Congress overlook several respected Judges while appointing the Chief Justice of India.

Congress’ modus operandi is simple- reject, discredit and threaten. If a judicial verdict goes against them, they reject it, then they discredit the judge and thereafter, talk about bringing impeachment motions against the judge.

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Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:46 am
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Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:36 am
Don't understand who the targeted audience of the above blog. Are they trying to get some votes from liberal crowd? IMO it is not only a wasted effort chasing them but also irritates the existing supporters. Most of the Modi supporters don't like his love affair with the far left leaning supreme court. Because of the fear towards SC, he hasn't used his executive powers to solve many problems of the majority community facing in the court against Hinduism. Sabarimala is the latest example where he didn't do anything to solve using executive powers. I hope he address these issues in his second term and any attempt to morph into Vajpayee needs to be prevented. Although India is called a democratic country, it is now being ruled by non elected Supreme court judges. Funny thing is that Supreme court judges are nominated by their own judges mafia gang without any accountability and it has become another dynasty rule with family members, sons of past judges getting nominated.
The targeted audience is anyone who needs to see both sides of the coin, an alternative to the fake narrative purposefully pushed by the hired gora guns of the congis, the shady ill-begotten harvard professors, the hired conscienceless mercenaries and the evil, immoral cambridge analytica offshoots that have moved into the Indian election mind space with a specific mandate of suppressing a counter narrative to the same old poisonous agenda pushed by shady gardeners in rome who see planting as their birthright, no matter the extreme cultural aggression it unleashes upon the docile Hindu populace, the gluttonously envious, the ever jealous and constantly conniving perfidious albion and the european cohorts that have panicked over their loss of control, influence and most vitally, the complete lack of access to the political dispensation that was until now traditionally susceptible to bribes, influence and inducements of FFNGOs like the ford and other foundations that so easily shaped our national policies and market access regulations.

Do you think that things like promissory notes originating anonymously in mauritius, singapore, the massive NPA crises of the PSU banks, the panama papers, the presence of nutcases like the idiotic, disastrous and garrulous raghu ram rajan and his poisonous pals driving policy are mere coincidences??

You have missed whole the point of the blog by a country mile.

Why is the blog in english??

That, by itself, should give you the major part of the answer.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:48 am

@tajmahal321

Patience.

All good things come to people who wait patiently.

battles are fought on one front at a time and only fools and desperados open up more fronts than they can or want to handle at any one time.


why do you think that such utter panic has set in, in the ranks of the unwashed "opposition"??

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Muns » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:14 am

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Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:27 am
Rahul's gand claims to be a brahmin. Let me tell you that to be a brahmin is no joke. Today, every Tom, dick and Harry thinks they are one. Even those who are born in so called brahmin families are not brahmin if they do not follow the tenets laid for them. Secondly, those "brahmin" who marry out do not bear children who are brahmin. Those kids would have to remarry Brahmins for 7 successive generations before they can be considered Brahmins.

Now, these are Vedic rules based on what yogis have seen and experienced. This is what it takes to be able to see, experience and understand bhagavan. Whether one believes in them or not is irrelevant. Do you think the Brahmins of today can see bhagavan? That is what differentiates a brahmin from someone who's not. Indians have lapped up the caste system the Portuguese left behind and think it was some regressive method to keep the masses stupid.
Just really a thought on this. Doesn't being a Brahmin really come from one's quality or guna? We all have different sets of personalities and to some extent every personality has their own individual characteristics. This means that some people are just more adapted towards a life of learning while some are ultimate craftsmen or engineers. In any case I think this has been hashed multiple times before but what I really wanted to say was, Indian history itself is replete with examples of lower caste individuals who have become Maha Rishi's, through their own dedication as well as devotion.
Valmiki, Ved Vyas, Vishwamitra, Rishi Vatsa and my own personal favorite the Alwar saint Bhakta Kannapa. All of them from lower castes but recognised to be brahmins and some Maha Rishi's. Indeed they are multiple and various lists online. It's this kind of individual quality as well that leads one to different aspects of bhagawan in itself....parents are Sai devotees....yet since childhood I always felt a personal attachment to Shri Hanumanji and his life story. Hence a Hanuman Bhakt..... In any case a few thoughts to think about.

In other news, the new Modi trailer has been released. Looks like a fascinating new movie. Really what a life story, but already the trigger for the propaganda avalanche coming from across the border has already been launched. It is really surprising to me how we cannot readily see how many of these tweets are really coming from exactly where. Maybe I could get our team to try to figure this out. In any case I have decided to share the link here to try and gain maximum likes for the video. Right now it is trending at 3;1 ratio, good to bad.
Someone posted before when Modi visited Tamil Nadu and the avalanche of posts related with 30% of those posts coming from outside especially Pakistan. That was a Swarajya article.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Primus » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:16 am

tajmahal321 wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:36 am
Don't understand who the targeted audience of the above blog. Are they trying to get some votes from liberal crowd?................
There is a large number of Indians who are anglophiles, live abroad and read the Guardian/NYT/WaPo. They may not be voters in this election but their perception matters in ways that are subtle but influential nonetheless. Politics is all about perception and optics.

There are few if any downsides to this blog, sure it may annoy Hindi loving Deshbhakts but they need to realize that if Modi is to win again, he has to pull out all the stops, reach the maximum number of people not just in India but in the world wherever the Indian diaspora lives.

Within my own friends and family circle most people are clueless about Modi's real achievements, not being able to devote the time or the energy to weed out all the negative noise. Their source of information is Western media outlets or RundiTV. I am constantly struggling to correct their false notions and improve their understanding of the Indian political scene.

Within India too there are many who are so deracinated that they would believe anything coming out of the English language media as opposed to the vernacular. They believe listening to the news in their mother-tongue is beneath their dignity. Not that this blog would change their mindset overnight, but it might just kindle their curiosity enough for them to begin to see the light.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Primus » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:26 am

Muns wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:14 am


Just really a thought on this. Doesn't being a Brahmin really come from one's quality or guna? .................... It's this kind of individual quality as well that leads one to different aspects of bhagawan in itself....parents are Sai devotees....yet since childhood I always felt a personal attachment to Shri Hanumanji and his life story. Hence a Hanuman Bhakt..... In any case a few thoughts to think about.
Another Hanuman Bhakt here Muns Ji. Agree, one's thought and actions speak much louder than any birth certificate.
In other news, the new Modi trailer has been released. Looks like a fascinating new movie. Really what a life story, but already the trigger for the propaganda avalanche coming from across the border has already been launched. It is really surprising to me how we cannot readily see how many of these tweets are really coming from exactly where. Maybe I could get our team to try to figure this out. In any case I have decided to share the link here to try and gain maximum likes for the video. Right now it is trending at 3;1 ratio, good to bad.
Someone posted before when Modi visited Tamil Nadu and the avalanche of posts related with 30% of those posts coming from outside especially Pakistan. That was a Swarajya article.
Sounds like a must-see. Very timely release too. Of course the opposition will cry 'foul' for the same reason, not having anything else to counter with. Imagine making a movie about RaGa's life story, what would that be like?

Most people do not realize that there is a well-entrenched system that is committed to the downfall of India and is based outside the nation. They work in cahoots with the Jaichands within and are able to mount a rapid response in a highly orchestrated fashion that puts out memes and amplifies them through pre-set channels within social and news media. It is amazing how powerful this can be. The odds are stacked against pro-India forces and have been so for a long, long time. It is truly an uphill battle.

Great job you are doing, dispelling some of these falsehoods.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:04 pm

a far cry from our own very homely and cosy tihar


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Nirav Modi has been sent to HMP Wandsworth prison in South London. Here is how the prison looks like.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Primus » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:13 pm

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Mayawati says she will not contest the 2019 GE!!!

https://www.republicworld.com/india-new ... f-mayawati
I am not seeing this anywhere else. Is this really true? Would be a huge development and I suspect the advantage will go to the BJP.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by hanumadu » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:05 pm

This is gold and a big slap on Rahul's face. Thank you CAIT

Modi is unleashing his armoury as the elections get closer.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/trade ... 73471.html
New Delhi: Domestic traders' body CAIT on Wednesday criticised Congress President Rahul Gandhi on his statement on GST, saying traders are not annoyed with the new indirect tax regime and instead willing to adopt it in a cohesive manner.

"We have come across one of your statements made yesterday (Tuesday) at a rally that traders are suffering from GST and if you come to power, you will abolish 'Gabbar Singh Tax' as called by you for GST.


"As a representative body of business community of the country, we highly object your statement which is highly deplorable and far from facts and is being seen as an attempt by you to score points on shoulders of traders," Confederation of All India Traders (CAIT) National Secretary General Praveen Khandelwal said in a letter to Gandhi.


He said though in initial months of the GST implementation, traders faced several problems because of it being a new taxation system but with passing of time and subsequent steps taken by the government, it is being simplified to a greater extent.

The biggest relief from the goods and services tax (GST) is that it has relived traders from continuous Inspector Rule and lot of burden of complying the taxation system and paper work, he added.

He also said Gandhi's statement is highly deplorable and far from facts and is being seen as an attempt by "you to score points on shoulders of traders".

"We highly object that taking the shoulders of traders, you have called GST as Gabbar Singh Tax. It gives an impression that perhaps relaxations, amendments, simplification and lowering of tax rates are certainly not in your knowledge that's why you are saying that traders are suffering from GST which is certainly not the case," he said.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by crams » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:33 pm

Primus wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:26 am

Sounds like a must-see. Very timely release too. Of course the opposition will cry 'foul' for the same reason, not having anything else to counter with. Imagine making a movie about RaGa's life story, what would that be like?
I thought Pappu's slaves are already planning a movie on him? I came across the following trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G65Ww0r7M2E

Of course they make it melodramatic with the tragic assassinations of his grandma and dad, but the part where I laughed my ass off is one hot chic in the end telling Pappu that the reason they 'love' him is because he taught them how to "win" -). I won't be surprised if those Dravidian zombies who swooning over him in Chennai or the Rupa Subramanya or Swai Chaturvedi or Omar Abdullah's keep or Fey D'Souza or Burka bibi type western wannabe Bimbos etc really feel so empowered by Pappu and in love with him.

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