The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:24 pm

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Oh lord.. her placard reads "brahminical patriarchy down down".. brahminical patriarchy made her cover head to toe, leaving only a hole for eyes.. another set of penguins taking oath against global warming, caused by Sabarimala



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i wonder if the commie police are arresting or filing cases against anyone for obstructing traffic??

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by crams » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:25 pm

Democracy and free speech are all fine, but somehow I feel post ModiJi becoming PM in India, these things are so abused and more often than not, annoying. Can't live with it, but can't do much.

I am referring to standard Pappu abuses to anything ModiJi says. Latest is his brash stupid response to ModiJi's interview to ANI. Do Congoons feel that they have to respond to everything ModiJi says? And vice versa, I also see BJP going ballistic to anything Pappu moron says.

But coming back to Pappu, I have not seen one, can anyone name even one, policy plank from Pappu that makes any sense whatsoever even something that we may disagree with? Its always just some hard-hitting rubbish that has been fed to him by his slaves, and hoping that some mud sticks. Its so predictable that it is nauseating.

About the only one I can recall is Pappu saying in Singapore or somewhere that MRI machines in India are not connected and thats a problem with healthcare in India. Of course, its a good vision, but it so laughable coming from a dunce like him that somebody fed him a sound-byte about connected healthcare and he regurgitated it. In a country where rudimentary healthcare for majority of citizens is non-existent, this guy talks about Internet-of-Things. Had this been in the context of a grand health care for all vision, it might have made some sense. But in any case, as laughable as this one is, this is about the only visionary statement I have ever heard from him.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by srikumar » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:04 pm

Anyone who says India is an intolerant country should be shown the first 2 pictures above with the women in burqua with the sign (and informed that the muslim women are protesting the right to enter a Hindu temple).

While I support the right of people to protest, when stuff like this happens, one is forced to wonder what/who are various groups of people loyal to, and where will all this lead to in the future. Freedom of expression is a good thing in many ways.....stuff like this comes out for the world to see.

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The last picture in the list above shows groups of men at regular intervals along the road, minding/supervising the women nad keeping them in line- literally. I dont see any women in that position of supervising. Does this count as patriarchy? I suppose they are all bhramins? Or is the patriachy OK because they are protesting ayyappa.


crams:
I recall pappu making some noises about introducing intra-party democracy, something like doing primaries US style to elect within the party for Prime Ministership (so the party does not appoint, they elect). This was in his TV interview to Arnab (much publicized) prior to the 2014 elections.

Obviously pigs will start flying before there is democracy within congress party, the personal property and ancestral inheritance of the Gandhi family. Nothing happened and it was just to make him look intelligent and get people to talk about this new ideas. In the same interview, he got a lot of flak for his comments on the Sikh riots when he hedged on how Congress was not (parphrasing here) fully to blame.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by crams » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:59 pm

I wonder how much crowd did this year's Bhima Koregaon draw. My gut feel is that it was a routine rally, nothing big. And even if it was big, not sure if there was a mighty anti-BJP, anti-RSS, anti-Brahmin sentiment manufactured like what happened during last year's Elgar Parishad by Urban Naxals. Or else UndY etc would have made a huge deal saying Dalits come out enmasse against BJP/ModiJi.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 2bA2L.html

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Vriksh » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:39 am

Haldiram wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:42 am
Vriksh wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:16 pm
Haldiram wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:14 pm
Curbing press freedom is good for India and HIndus?
Curbing crooks is good for India. Not good for you and your buddies.
And you are thekedar of Indians and Hindus? Speak for yourself.
Commies can always wank off thinking of Mao or Marx! Why are you bothered with all them pesky Hindu heathens my dear communist birader. They will continue to exist and thrive while commies get flushed down the toilet (swacch bharat). :rotfl:
Did I step on your tail or something?!
No you came wagging yours attempting to sniff beneath mine. 🤣🤣 Your attempt to say hello is duly noted and rejected, now you are welcome to go off to Venezuela or wherever commie Utopia is.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Vriksh » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:46 am

Not at all happy with Modis cursory dismissal of middle class concerns.

https://www.deccanherald.com/national/w ... 09074.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economic ... 339280.cms

In both cases, he has deflected the query. The second answer about inflation, indirect job creation via giving poor access to ayushman Bharat (while middle class don't have it, insurance firms give them a solid run around especially for elderly relations)..will just elicit anger.

On a positive note, pappu has picked it up and is yammering about it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economic ... 243216.cms

This actually means that if BJP has sense it will take tangible measures in the next budget to assuage middle class anger. And if they do so, pappu would have directly helped BJP fill a missing link.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by RajaRaja » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:53 am

Vriksh wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:39 am
Haldiram wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:42 am
Vriksh wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:16 pm


Curbing crooks is good for India. Not good for you and your buddies.



Commies can always wank off thinking of Mao or Marx! Why are you bothered with all them pesky Hindu heathens my dear communist birader. They will continue to exist and thrive while commies get flushed down the toilet (swacch bharat). :rotfl:
Did I step on your tail or something?!
No you came wagging yours attempting to sniff beneath mine. 🤣🤣 Your attempt to say hello is duly noted and rejected, now you are welcome to go off to Venezuela or wherever commie Utopia is.

I see I did step on your tail! :rotfl:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Vikas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:05 am

Supratik wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:08 pm
There is a possibility that the alliance with the SS in MH may not happen as it is demanding more than its strength and the BJP may go with the NCP.
What are the odds of DF wining the elections for BJP if they go alone in 2019.
Would NCP be game to tie up with BJP and what would be their demands ? They will at once lose the so called minority Vote bank but gain nothing in return.
To me that sounds little hard to happen but if the unthinkable happens, then SS may join Congress Gathbandhan.
In a way this might be good as Hindu-Shahi parties extend their reach into all the corners of polity.
SS anyways has become a pesky partner like left was during first reign of Sonia till they were kicked out.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:18 am

Is this the job of a CM, to negate the rights of lakhs upon lakhs of devotees??

And yet, there will be countless dhimmi Hindus who are out there supporting this man, Hindus in name only, Hindus who are all bereft of brains but chockful of secularitis.


CM Vijayan confirms that two women in early 40s entered Sabarimala temple


CM Vijayan confirms that two women in early 40s entered Sabarimala temple


Kanaga Durga from Malappuram and Bindhu from Kozhikode started their climb around midnight and claim to have reached the temple after 3:45 am.


THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Two women in early 40s, Bindhu and Kanaga Durgha, have visited the Sabarimala Ayyappa temple and got the darshan of the lord on January 2.

Chief minister Pinarayi Vijayan has confirmed that the women had indeed visited Sabarimala. "It's a fact that women had entered the temple. We have earlier said that police would provide adequate security to anyone who wants to offer darshan at the temple," Vijayan said.



Bindu of Koyilandi and Kanakadurga of Malappuram offered darshan on Wednesday early morning. Both of them had earlier attempted to go to Sabarimala but had to go back after facing heavy protests.

Speaking to the media, Bindu said she went to Sabarimala at around 3.30 am along with Kanakadurga. It is said that the duo offered darshan under police security.

"If women have offered darshan and thus violated the ritualistic practices, necessary measures would be taken by the thanthri," Sasikumara Varma of the Pandalam Royal family, told the media.

The duo's claims of having darshan at the shrine comes a day after Kerala women raised a formidable 'Women's Wall' or Vanitha Mathil, covering the entire length of the state, proclaiming their support to the state government’s resolve to implement the Supreme Court’s verdict allowing women of all ages access to Sabarimala.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Sachin » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:20 am

chetak wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:18 am
Is this the job of a CM, to negate the rights of lakhs upon lakhs of devotees??
Any way the temple is now getting closed down. Looks like it is time for Kerala Hindus to firmly understand that between communism & Hinduism only one is going to survive in Kerala. Let the Kerala voters decide, what they want.

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Post by chetak » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:00 am

Wearing Red Churidar Bindhu and the Blue one Ganagadurga. Bindhu is an advocate and both are members of CPM in #Kerala. A special permission issued by devasom board with a strong influence to police to provide full support till they come out , they entered through north entrance


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by darshhan » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:21 am

Welcome to 21st century equivalent of Somnath Temple destruction and depredations by Mahmud Ghaznavi.

Only this time current Ghaznavis are much worse.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by darshhan » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:24 am

crams wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:25 pm
Democracy and free speech are all fine,
Democracy may be fine and dandy but universal sufferage is a big failure all over the world and that includes the most homogenous and small nation states.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Chandragupta » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:57 am

Sachin wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:20 am
chetak wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:18 am
Is this the job of a CM, to negate the rights of lakhs upon lakhs of devotees??
Any way the temple is now getting closed down. Looks like it is time for Kerala Hindus to firmly understand that between communism & Hinduism only one is going to survive in Kerala. Let the Kerala voters decide, what they want.
I doubt it will change anything amongst Mallu Hindus. Most of them are past the point of no return in their self hatred. This self hatred disease is now spreading in the North too. We are idiots here, fighting back & exhorting the rest of the Hindus to fight. I get only mockery & laughter by westernized Dindus when I tell them what the status of their progeny will be, once the Abrahamic cults start running this country. We are fighting a losing battle, both in mindshare & demographics.

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Post by Vikas » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:03 am

^CG Ji, If it is a losing battle, Then why waste time, resources and energy to protect Hindutva else it is a battle worth fighting for.
Lets go down spectacularly so that takes everyone else down with us.

Hindus of today are a confused lot. At least in NI, They are embarrassed to be seen wearing a tilak or attending any Pravachans but would proudly put on red Santa Clauss outfits on their kids.
We are happy to vote for someone whose official position that Sri Ram was figment of imagination and yet call ourselves Ram Bhakths.
Ashamed to accept that we go to temple everyday but would bow in front of each and every Mazar or Church.
Moinuddin Chishti was a known Hindu hater (Read up about his exploits with Wives of Prithviraj Chauhan), but majority of people visiting his tomb are Hindus. Instead of creating a world famous Biogas plant on that spot, we got and worship him.

PS: Part of the above narrative is true for yours truly too :(

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Post by Vriksh » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:58 am

Haldiram wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:53 am
Vriksh wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:39 am
Haldiram wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:42 am


Did I step on your tail or something?!
No you came wagging yours attempting to sniff beneath mine. 🤣🤣 Your attempt to say hello is duly noted and rejected, now you are welcome to go off to Venezuela or wherever commie Utopia is.

I see I did step on your tail! :rotfl:
Shush now brown nosed commie birader. :lol:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Vriksh » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:00 am

Sachin wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:20 am
chetak wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:18 am
Is this the job of a CM, to negate the rights of lakhs upon lakhs of devotees??
Any way the temple is now getting closed down. Looks like it is time for Kerala Hindus to firmly understand that between communism & Hinduism only one is going to survive in Kerala. Let the Kerala voters decide, what they want.
Continue to vote for CPM and give the rest of India bhashans on secularism looks like. :facepalm:

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Post by Supratik » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:05 pm

Cess to tackle stray cattle menace in UP. Good move.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 342357.cms

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Post by Supratik » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:08 pm

RSS/VHP should go easy on insisting bringing an ordinance on Ram mandir before the SC has passed a judgement. Tomorrow Congress can bring in an ordinance declaring India an Islamic state prior to passing any bill in parliament or going through courts just like they did with socialism and secularism.

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Post by shravanp » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:37 pm

Supratik wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:05 pm
Cess to tackle stray cattle menace in UP. Good move.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 342357.cms
That's indeed a good move. Should take care of stray cattle, but it would be improper to call it a menace. It's our own fault of not organizing our precious resources (which applies to many other indigenous animal stock, flora/fauna).

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Post by vishvak » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:01 pm

Isn't democracy 'secular' (and such terms) enough, that more and more has to be given up - for collective bargaining of vote bank?

The 'influencers' i.e. journalists, politicians et al should be asked some questions like
* How many countries were colonized and among them looted the most?
* Post-colonization how many countries were able to progress?

And such questions at basic level.

I think BJP should declare openly that after judicial process is over NDA will bring legal law for RJB, and such important issues will be dealt with similarly.

I think those who are interested in Hinduism's revival should also start addressing root causes successfully i.e. takeover of world (conquest) by numbers/conversions and how to deal with that in many different ways. I think someone put it a few pages back that after some decades numbers of Muslims will grow to a huge extent so how to deal with it is all that matters or something like that.

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Post by Aditya_V » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:03 am

Supratik wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:08 pm
RSS/VHP should go easy on insisting bringing an ordinance on Ram mandir before the SC has passed a judgement. Tomorrow Congress can bring in an ordinance declaring India an Islamic state prior to passing any bill in parliament or going through courts just like they did with socialism and secularism.
INC and C system has good contacts within the elements of Hindu right wing and do a lot of sabotage to make BJP not Hindu enough or Hindus as villians. They are worse than Shakuni.

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Post by JohnTitor » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:22 am

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What stops
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sarkar from putting Kerala under Prez rule when Kerala state govt has been wilfully working towards desecrating Hindu traditions?
Modi should do something openly about the Kerala govt. At this point there is no downside, only upside.

It's not like Abraham's are going to vote for him. But knowing him, he has become ABV-2. While he plays by the rules, everyone else will do what is necessary to get to power and then stay in it.

This is the problem with Hindus, they don't understand dharma, you don't play by rules when your opponent doesn't.

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Post by crams » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:33 am

JohnTitor wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:22 am


It's not like Abraham's are going to vote for him. But knowing him, he has become ABV-2. While he plays by the rules, everyone else will do what is necessary to get to power and then stay in it.

This is the problem with Hindus, they don't understand dharma, you don't play by rules when your opponent doesn't.
I don't know about putting Kerala govt under president rule, but you are absolutely 100% correct that he plays by the rules while his haters bend every rule or stretch it to the limit to attack him. In fact, the Pappu and assorted thugbandhan attack a straw-man in ModiJi whom they expected to realize their fears of 'fascism', 'communalism', 'breaking institutions', 'dictatorship' etc. When ModiJi didn't live up to their wild fantasies, they sensed a weakness and went for the kill anyway leaving him and his spokesman defending wild allegations. So BJP might as well live up to the image that is painted of them. It can't get any worse. Not to whine but one of ModiJi's glaring failures has been his soft approach to the Congoon ecosystem instead of mercilessly dismantling it.

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Post by Dumal » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:18 am

"Desecrating Hindu traditions" - how does one even justify that claim seriously? Something that was specifically enabled by the SC. The Centre should now dismiss the state govt that may have acted over-zealously but entirely within its writ?

Even though some may be charged by emotions and some others fishing in muddied waters, these are not useful ideas to propagate. Just my 2 paise!

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