The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

[Schmidt]

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AAP leader Ashutosh was responding to a Supreme Court ban on the sale of crackers in Delhi and NCR till November 1.
Ashutosh said setting off fire-crackers during Diwali was part of "our culture".
He said while they respect the Supreme Court and its decision, it should have come up with a decision on how to check pollution rather than banning the sale of crackers.
"Diwali without crackers is incomplete. We can't even think about it," he said.
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BJP should be made aware that it can't take the Hindu vote for granted

It has to earn our trust and be sympathetic to our sentiments

BJP has failed to act on a long wish list :

Abolish RTE
Reliquish govt control of Hindu temples
UCC
RJB ( and Kashi and Mathura as well )
Resettlement of Kashmiri Pandits in their own homeland
Eviction of Rohingya and BEEDEE illegal immigrants and reverse the demographic assault on the NE and West Bengal



God , so many , I haven't scratched the surface yet

And if NM cant do it in 5 years , then who is going to ?

Next time they better not ask for Hindus to vote for them on the basis of Hindutva as the have failed us on the agenda
Maybe NM and Jetli can ask to be voted back on the strength of economic development alone , lets see what their vote share will be then !!

It would be in the single digits

And BJP can rest assured that even if they turn this into a land of mil and honey they are not going to get support from Muslims and Christians

Maybe if it takes a loss in some crucial state like Gujarat for BJP to come to its senses , then so be it

[abhijit]

This is the beginning folks. All our metros are polluted, who wants to bet next year Deepavali will be banned in all cities next year? (and yes, a ban on firecrackers during Deepavali is a ban on Deepavali itself).

If the Modi govt policy (by collective responsibility principle, one union minister publicly articulating a policy means it is the collective stance of the GoI executive) on this is not reversed, will lose quite a few votes. This, IMHO, is a massive self goal, if the env ministry was involved in the petition (per this article, the Central pollution control board was supporting the petition to ban firecrackers).

Time for BJP to have some competition.

WTF!! CPCB comes under Ministry of Environment i.e. Dr. Harshvardhan.

The bench of Justice AK Sikri, Justice Abhay Manohar Sapre and Justice Ashok Bhushan reserved the order as Central Pollution Control Board (CPCB) told the bench that it supported the plea for the restoration of 2016 ban order.

Supporting the petitioner's plea for the restoiration of ban, senior counsel Vijay Panjwani, appearing for the CPCB, told the bench that the entire city was looking towards the top court for relief

[abhijit]

Maybe if it takes a loss in some crucial state like Gujarat for BJP to come to its senses , then so be it

+ a million

I think it is time. They have started taking us for granted.

[abhijit]

It was environment ministry which contributed majorly in demise of UPA2. Looks like Modi has found his Jairam Ramesh.

[Schmidt]

http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/de ... er-1-69686

"The senior counsel CA Sundaram appearing for the permanent licence holders defended the lifting of ban saying that bursting of firecrackers during festive season of Diwali contributed in a small measure to the air pollution in Delhi and the NCR."

The lawyer who wanted the ban lifted should have brought in Hindu religious sentiments into the argument and this being an integral part of the festival and should have pleaded for a ruling in terms of reasonable restrictions rather than an outright ban

[Singha]

http://www.opindia.com/2017/10/what-med ... nya-in-up/

[MehtaRahulC]

.... But I don't think it's so simple. Pls see the case mentioned in this article:

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/ ... 47274.html

Briefly, last year SC had told UP ex-CMs that they needed to vacate govt bungalows within 2 months. So the UP govt (Akhilesh) got a bill in UP assembly passed basically circumventing this SC ruling. Now someone has challenged this law, but as of now SC has not held this law to be illegal or that UP assembly does not have the right to pass such a law. In fact, the next hearing is tomorrow (10 Oct). Will be interesting to see what happens.

So at least on the basis of this case so far, state assemblies can pass laws which negate SC rulings.

Need to put AAP on the spot, by asking them if they are willing to pass a law negating SC cracker ban in Delhi NCR. At least they can pass a law for the Delhi part of NCR and leave out parts in Haryana and UP.

SCjs have banned sale of firecrackers, and said that no one shall have license to sell firecrackers
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Sale of firecarckers and its license is regulated by Delhi Police. Delhi Police, unlike other states, comes under Central Govt
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Here is Delhi Police website
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http://www.delhipolicelicensing.gov.in/home/explosives
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EXPLOSIVES/ DO YOU WISH TO OBTAIN LICENSE/NOC FOR

1. Permanent Firecrackers shop?

Point to Remember:- If you are contemplating selling only amorces & sparklers upto 100 Kilograms then you do not require a license (However, all the conditions/safety measures must be observed as per Explosives Rules-2008 in the interest of public safety at large).
But if you want to sell mixed crackers (amorces, sparklers & other crackers) even upto 100 Kilograms or a higher quantity then it is mandatory that you apply for a fireworks license. The permanent fireworks licences are to be granted by Additional Commissioner of Police, Licensing, Delhi upto a quantity of maximum of 100 kg of manufactured fireworks fireworks (Division-2, sub-division-II as per Schedule I of Explosive Rules, 2008, which comprises high hazard fireworks like rocket shells, maroons, wheels, barrages, fountains, illumination pieces, distress signals, etc) and 500 kg of Chinese crackers/ sparklers (Division-2, sub-division-I as per Schedule I of Explosive Rules, 2008, which comprise low hazard fireworks like sparklers, Chinese crackers, serpents etc.). ...
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So Supreme Court has effectively asked Delhi Police NOT to give firecracker sale liencese to anyone, and suspend all existing license (till 1-nov).
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Now Delhi Assembly has now no jurisdiction over Delhi Police
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Hence Delhi Assembly has no jusridiction over powers of police, such as powers to give firecracker sale license
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AAP can indeed pass a resolution to support firecrackers. But Arke had publicly made video long back - in year 2012, that "people should give sweets to poor and not waste money on firecrackers and firecrackers cause pollution and blah blah". When a leader has opposed something publicly BEFORE elections, and he gets elected, then he has no moral responsibility unless voice of majority is proven otherwise.
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RSS= BJP never supported firecrackers, but RSS took a posture that RSS supports Hindu tradition of lighting firecrackers in DIwali. Or may be, firecracker supporters got convinced (or fooled?) that RSS will support firecrackers !!! But at least, AAP = ArKe was clear long back that he opposes firecrackers.
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Finally, question is --- whom should we voters tweet to print law, -- PM or CM. I say PM --- because Delhi Police comes under him and this is technically a police issue. And this is NATIONAL ISSUE and not just state issue. Today, SCjs have banned firecracker sale in Delhi, tomorrow it can be all metro cities and then it can whole India !! So this is NATIONAL issue, and so we should ask PM, and not CM per se.
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aside : Modiji never printed any law to cancel SCjs' ban of Jallikatju in Tamil Nadu. And no RSS-leader or RSS-worker publicly asked @PmoIndia over twitter to print law to cancel SCjs' ban on Jallikatju. So we all know which side Modiji or RSS-leaders or RSS-workers are in general when it comes to Hindu traditions.
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aside2 : I request people of Delhi to defy firecracker ban by going to Haruana and buying twice the SAFE fire crackers --- pls no sutali bomb, no mirchi bomb, no rockets - but safe crackers like fuljadi, anar, 555, tajmahal etc. Lighting fire crackers isnt banned, because SCjs dont have guts to go against 3 crore Delhi people. So SCjs have only banned sale. So I request all people of Delhi to go to Haryana / UP and buy twice the firecrackers this time.

[SRoy]

No ordnance will be issued on the cracker ban verdict.

Going by the behavior pattern for last 3.5 years the central govt. comes out as bunch of cowards. They have surrendered every means of governance to bureaucracy and judiciary.

All core issues that the BJP's long term voter base asks for have been silently sidelined and forgotten with "Vikas" a.k.a economy first paradigm. Unfortunately that too has come has cropper.

[Indrad]

This is evident from social media today ^
There is sense of gloom and despair even amongst the hard core supporters of BJP. They are slowly realising BJP is a clueless party masquerading as nationalist.. And Hindus were cursing Modi while NDTV< Choonawalas etal were laughing to their heart content teasing Hindus with 'think of future' . Slowly it is sinking in that we need a RW alternative of BJP.
Unfortunately supporters of Modi are caught between devil and the deep sea. It would be wrong to assume their support is granted

[Chandragupta]

If the Modi government has any balls, they will welcome the SC judgement to introduce eco friendly practices in religion and then file a petition in the SC to ban goat slaughter in Bakra Eid and falling of trees for Christmas and watch the Lordship tie their knickers in a twist.

If they just sit there and do nothing then what did we vote them for? Aak thoo on this government.

[Indrad]

Dr Harshvardhan environment mantri has deleted his crackerless green diwali tweet after all day outrage.
This is the first time I am seeing even hard core supporters seething in anger. Not good for Modi.

[Karthik]

Slowly it is sinking in that we need a RW alternative of BJP.

BJP is not a RW party, it's centrist at best.

[Indrad]

I forward this scientific and full of facts article by Anand rangnathan ( actually a molecular biologist) , this is by far the best I came across on curbing pollution in Delhi https://www.newslaundry.com/2015/06/19/ ... -pollution

[Indrad]

If the Modi government has any balls, they will welcome the SC judgement to introduce eco friendly practices in religion and then file a petition in the SC to ban goat slaughter in Bakra Eid and falling of trees for Christmas and watch the Lordship tie their knickers in a twist.

If they just sit there and do nothing then what did we vote them for? Aak thoo on this government.

Pollution can be curbed by many means kindly read the article by AR ^
Diwali is not a major contributor actually pollution control is all over places.
Govt stand should have been no matter what we will let you burst crackers as it is a matter of tradition and belief which brings happiness but chickening out on issue is terrible.

[achoudhury]

I have seldom been so angry and sad. All Hindu festivals being threatened one by one. If BJP does not do something abt this then they are good for nothing. I saw tweet of Cursevardhan and dhimmi is written all over it. Everyday we are raping mother earth , but no Diwali crackers are the biggest threat to the Mankind. Delhites should openly defy the ban, sell whatever they want. Burst whatever they want. Make this the noisiest Diwali.

[Rudradev]

I forward this scientific and full of facts article by Anand rangnathan ( actually a molecular biologist) , this is by far the best I came across on Deepawali and pollution https://www.newslaundry.com/2015/06/19/ ... -pollution

Article doesn't say anything about deepawali at all, only about Delhi (exploring the question of whether it is, in fact, amongst the world's "most polluted" cities).

[hanumadu]

Dr Harshvardhan environment mantri has deleted his crackerless green diwali tweet after all day outrage.
This is the first time I am seeing even hard core supporters seething in anger. Not good for Modi.

This guy must be living under a rock to not know the Hindu sentiment on this issue.

[Indrad]

I forward this scientific and full of facts article by Anand rangnathan ( actually a molecular biologist) , this is by far the best I came across on Deepawali and pollution https://www.newslaundry.com/2015/06/19/ ... -pollution

Article doesn't say anything about deepawali at all, only about Delhi (exploring the question of whether it is, in fact, amongst the world's "most polluted" cities).

yes it doesn't say about diwali (sorry for wrong linking) but says about how to control pollution in Delhi and banning firecrackers is not there

[Indrad]

this guy must be living under a rock to not know the Hindu sentiment on this issue.

actually some one was mentioning today that detachment from grass root of leaders like DR HV was a major cause of Delhi poll debacle. They had no idea of what people wanted from them.

[Indrad]

this is when it all started, no idea though who was the vakeel in this case. 2016

The Supreme Court on Friday imposed a blanket ban on sale and stocking of firecrackers in Delhi-NCR with immediate effect, and also suspended all such licences. A bench led by Chief Justice of India T S Thakur directed the Centre to immediately suspend all licences of fireworks in Delhi-NCR till further orders. “No such licence shall be granted or renewed till our further orders,” said the bench, also comprising Justice A K Sikri and Justice S A Bobde.
The court order will, in effect, mean a complete ban on all largescale fireworks in Delhi-NCR since it prohibits sale, stocking as well as its possession in substantive quantity. Besides, all fireworks at largescale displays, including at Ramlilas, temple festivals and melas, require a licence, which the top court said cannot be granted any further.
This order, however, may not impact celebratory fireworks by private persons at, say, a wedding if the firecrackers are procured from a different state. The detailed order was not released by the court on Friday.
Apart from imposing the ban, the court also asked the Central Pollution Control Board (CPCB) to study and prepare a report to show what elements were used in the manufacturing of the firecrackers in order to ascertain if they were harmful to people.
The order came on a PIL moved by three toddlers, aged between three and 14 months, who, through their parents, urged the court to completely ban the bursting of firecrackers in Delhi-NCR.
In a PIL, filed through their parents, toddlers Arjun Goyal, Aarav Bhandari and Zoya Rao Bhasin, all residents of Delhi, sought an array of directives from the top court to protect their fundamental right for a clean and healthy environment.
During a previous hearing of this PIL, the court had stated that the whole of Delhi will have to shut down one day if “severe”
pollution is not checked. The bench had observed that it may completely ban bursting of firecrackers, including at religious festivals.

[Gus]

Genuine question: why isn't anyone asking Delhi govt (AAP) to bring in an ordinance? Don't they have jurisdiction on this fire cracker ban in Delhi? It's not like this is a law and order issue which comes under the Centre.

Why would they do that when this issue can be used to beat BJp with. If env ministry was involved in the PIl, then they should take the flak. If they don't correct themselves then they need to be told via all available channels of growing discontent.

[SwamyG]

This is what happens when Hindus do not control the narrative, and had taken care of the environment by themselves. Now they have to be "told". Contemporary times have a certain set of parameters, that are used rightly or wrongly to measure humans, development, environment, planet etc.

I see Hindus are leaving troubled waters, and people come to fish in those troubled waters. Else everything will look like an attack on 'Hinduism' and 'Hindus' by the 'modern'. Hindus follow Shruti and Smriti based traditions. We had some baggage, dropped some - picked some. In the long journey some of the baggage are unimportant.

[Indrad]

Supreme Court spent Rs 38 lakh on Justice A K Sikri's air tickets, Rs 37 lakh on CJI T S Thakur's in 3 years
Justice Sikri is the one who passed ban order on firecrackers

Justice A K Sikri till March 2016 undertook seven trips abroad with his wife. They visited Amsterdam, Hague (Netherlands) with transit through London and Dubai (UAE), Singapore (twice), Hong Kong, Brussels with transit through Zurich, Macao (China) with transit through Hong Kong and Beijing, and Tel Aviv with transit through Zurich. In total, their air tickets cost the Supreme Court Rs 37.91 lakh.

CJI T S Thakur and his wife visited Colombo (Sri Lanka), Canberra (Australia) with tra ..


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

[Indrad]

Abhishek Singhvi was involved in original petition
The Supreme Court categorically refused to ban people from bursting firecrackers during Diwali, saying it might be "dangerous" to infringe into the common man's right to enjoy his religious festivities.

Refusing the >plea made by three toddlers, who turned to the Supreme Court for relief against the air pollution caused by firecrackers during Diwali, a Bench led by Chief Justice H.L. Dattu said: "the court cannot stop people from bursting crackers in front of their homes."

The Chief Justice observed, "If we try to stop, he will say it is my right. Such a ban will lead to a dangerous situation. Chaos."

The court dismissed arguments made by senior advocate Abhishek Manu Singhvi to prescribe a time limit and even designate public spaces where people can burst crackers.

"Sorry. We cannot tell everybody to go to some Nehru maidan and burst crackers," the Chief Justice said.

The Bench, however, pulled up the Centre for not publishing advertisements widely in the media warning of health hazards and to follow regulations concerning noise pollution.

The court further reiterated its 2005 order prescribing time limit to avoid causing disturbance to the public during "night time".

In the 2005 order, the court had defined "night time" as the hours between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/s ... 813627.ece

[Vrish]

Dr Harshvardhan environment mantri has deleted his crackerless green diwali tweet after all day outrage.
This is the first time I am seeing even hard core supporters seething in anger. Not good for Modi.

This guy must be living under a rock to not know the Hindu sentiment on this issue.

most BJP guys are like that but at least he is sincere and honest. BJP in order to make india INC-mukt has also taken a lot of riff-raff into the party. its but a matter of time before they reveal their true colors and i hope RSS has a close watch. political corriuption is considered ok by all parties and puts them all on an equal footing till a guy like namo comes along.