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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:45 pm
by jamwal
While #AAP has been blaming center and other states for pollution in Delhi, its own leaders are burning crops in Punjab
https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/928566779995029504

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/928545963320295424

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:08 pm
by Supratik
Adhir Chaudhuri WB PCC chief meets Yogi. Interesting.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 551404.cms

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:14 pm
by Hari Seldon
Primus wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:24 pm
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The 2019 election will be the most historic in the last 70 years for the simple reason that it is a question of survival for the Dienasty and all its hangers-on, the entire Lootyen crowd, the loony-left and finally those whose body is in India but heart in Pakistan. They all know, if BJP gets another five years in office they are all finished. OTOH, we know if they get into power, we are finished. It truly will be a battle for India's soul.
+1.

If BJP alone secures <272 in GE2019, rest assured every other neta and party out there will sink all differences, close ranks and form some sorta 'unity' gubmint to carry on looting.

If BJP alone is around but just short of 272, I expect the clamour to go up for 'anybody from BJP but not Modi' will be acceptable as PM candidate, etc.

If BJP just about crosses 272, expect heavy shelling to break a few MPs here and there and sink the ship. Which is why ticket selection for GE2019 must be tightly controlled by Modi-Shah.

If BJP scores 300+ in LS and eventual RS majority, then its game over not just for media and netas but also for their judassial loudships, the semi-gods in black robes.

We'll see how it goes. I'm all in for the BJP. Yogi's elevation, words and deeds + the degree of freedom BJP central leadership has given to him has heartened me.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:18 pm
by MehtaRahulC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lg-EaBWd0Y - 3 minute video -
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इंदिरा गांधी ने की होती नोटबंदी तो हमें जरुरत नहीं पड़ती: प्रधानमंत्री मोदी
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see link for full news
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Pls see video for exact statements - Modiji says that Congress PM Indiraji was asked to do notebandhi (of Rs 100 notes). She didnt. And if she had done notebandhi at that time, then Modiji's govt would NOT have had to do it.
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And pls DO NOT take my translation as authentic. Pls see 3 minute video yourself.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:36 pm
by Karthik
Hari Seldon wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:14 pm
Primus wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:24 pm
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The 2019 election will be the most historic in the last 70 years for the simple reason that it is a question of survival for the Dienasty and all its hangers-on, the entire Lootyen crowd, the loony-left and finally those whose body is in India but heart in Pakistan. They all know, if BJP gets another five years in office they are all finished. OTOH, we know if they get into power, we are finished. It truly will be a battle for India's soul.
+1.

If BJP alone secures <272 in GE2019, rest assured every other neta and party out there will sink all differences, close ranks and form some sorta 'unity' gubmint to carry on looting.

If BJP alone is around but just short of 272, I expect the clamour to go up for 'anybody from BJP but not Modi' will be acceptable as PM candidate, etc.

If BJP just about crosses 272, expect heavy shelling to break a few MPs here and there and sink the ship. Which is why ticket selection for GE2019 must be tightly controlled by Modi-Shah.

If BJP scores 300+ in LS and eventual RS majority, then its game over not just for media and netas but also for their judassial loudships, the semi-gods in black robes.

We'll see how it goes. I'm all in for the BJP. Yogi's elevation, words and deeds + the degree of freedom BJP central leadership has given to him has heartened me.
Remember, I am a born hindu, I am a nationalist, hence I am hindu nationalist slogan? Right now, feel betrayed in that regard. Something has to be given.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:42 pm
by Yagnasri
Betrayed may be a strong word. Let down may be correct. He did not act against us. True he has not done much. But did stop EJ funding and closed many NGOs. These are unseen but major threats to Indics.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:30 pm
by santosh
How come no one has posted about HP elections yet?!?! Turnover seems to be around 74% which is very good.

Dr Praveen Patil‏ @5Forty3 10h10 hours ago

Out of 7525 Polling booths, BJP is strong in 3670 and Congress in 2143; it is those remaining 1712 polling booths that will decide the extent of BJP's sweep in #HimachalPradeshElections

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:48 pm
by Supratik
Shiv Sena to contest Gujarat polls.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/mumbai-ne ... 3jaqI.html

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:54 am
by Hari Seldon
Heh.

Abhishek Singhvi in tax soup: officials reject claim that ‘termites ate vouchers,’ slap Rs 56-cr penalty (IE)

Another upright cong cog in the dragnet. 'Dragnet' coz even as the net tightens, the saga drags on...

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:44 am
by Aditya_V
Hari Seldon wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:54 am
Heh.

Abhishek Singhvi in tax soup: officials reject claim that ‘termites ate vouchers,’ slap Rs 56-cr penalty (IE)

Another upright cong cog in the dragnet. 'Dragnet' coz even as the net tightens, the saga drags on...
This news is now 3 years old, lots of C system people have been caught in IT cases where they know they lose, once it goes above ITAT to HC and SC, that is where their clout is where they feel nothing can touch them. Same is the case with Abhishek Manu Singhvi.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:18 pm
by AbhishekC
KarthikSan wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:10 am
In that case, he/she is lying.
Mind your language! This is pathetic.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:57 pm
by AbhishekC
Although this video is not about Indian politics, a lot of the things being discussed are similar to Indian scene - the invasion and infection of the academia by marxists, etc. Do watch to get a sense of how these people are a pox wherever they are:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-hIVnmUdXM[/youtube]

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:07 pm
by SSundar
MehtaRahulC wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:18 pm
Modiji says that Congress PM Indiraji was asked to do notebandhi (of Rs 100 notes). She didnt. And if she had done notebandhi at that time, then Modiji's govt would NOT have had to do it.
I think it is a fact that IG was asked to do a notebandhi and she refused. But notebandhi is not a one-time thing. You don't just flush the Cooum river one and call it a done deal unless all the raw sewers that dump into the river are plugged. IG never had the tools to stop the regeneration of black money. Modi lives in the digital era where the tools are now available. Still, notebandhi needs to be done 3-4 times before people will be forced to move 100% to trackable monetary transactions.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:08 pm
by Vikas
I didn't watched TV in last 3 months and everything looks nice and peaceful and hardly anything worth Political newsmaking. Not much politics being discussed on the road or in office anymore.
Today I happened to watch news at a relatives place and it felt like as if heavens had fallen and Bharat was going thru apocalypse and Congoon wave was about to hit Bharat and Sh. Modi has lost his charm, wit and goodwill.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:18 pm
by AbhishekC
MehtaRahulC wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:18 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lg-EaBWd0Y - 3 minute video -
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https://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/hindi ... d=noscript
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इंदिरा गांधी ने की होती नोटबंदी तो हमें जरुरत नहीं पड़ती: प्रधानमंत्री मोदी
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see link for full news
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Pls see video for exact statements - Modiji says that Congress PM Indiraji was asked to do notebandhi (of Rs 100 notes). She didnt. And if she had done notebandhi at that time, then Modiji's govt would NOT have had to do it.
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And pls DO NOT take my translation as authentic. Pls see 3 minute video yourself.
Modi being economical with the truth again. Morarji Desai did in fact carry out a demonetization in 1978. Why is he not mentioning it? Because it blows holes in his (unspoken) contention that demonetization BECAME necessary because of the need to fight black money.

That is not correct, because demo was done so that BJP could monopolize black money.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:31 pm
by MehtaRahulC
It is clear that ALL GST reliefs came ONLY because Gujarat election.
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And it also clear that GST rates , limits, number of returns per year etc will become same as before after 6pm 14-dec-2017 after Gujarat voting ends
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Imagine what would have happened if ALL Assembly elections across India and LS elections are held on same day. And then there are NO elections till 5 years !! Would GST reliefs had come?
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All in all, procedure of election is ONLY thing that has been saving India from voracious appetite of congress / rss / aap / cpm etc leaders !! Freedom fighters had some ethics. But now only procedure of election is installing some sense in these post freedom fighter generation. Without procedure of election, God knows what would these leaders do and would not do !! It would be a real horror show !!
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So any takers for simultaneous election proposal of Sri Modiji? i.e. conduct ALL states' assembly elections and LS elections on the same day (i.e. within 5 weeks)? And no elections for next 5 years?
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SOLUTION? Well, outside the scope of forum, I guess

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:55 pm
by SSundar
MehtaRahulC wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:31 pm
It is clear that ALL GST reliefs came ONLY because Gujarat election.
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And it also clear that GST rates , limits, number of returns per year etc will become same as before after 6pm 14-dec-2017 after Gujarat voting ends
Could you please offer proof for this finding?

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:12 pm
by crams
AbhishekC wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:18 pm

Modi being economical with the truth again. Morarji Desai did in fact carry out a demonetization in 1978. Why is he not mentioning it? Because it blows holes in his (unspoken) contention that demonetization BECAME necessary because of the need to fight black money.

That is not correct, because demo was done so that BJP could monopolize black money.

Rubbish. Thats a conspiracy theory even Jihadi Mamta, and here minions like Mohua Moitra are peddling.

In the end guys, lets face it. I am coming to the conclusion that it all boils down to one and only one issue, be it in US or in India: Identity. For us Hindu nationalists, ModiJi represents our hopes and aspirations after post-colonial colonial brown Sahib Congoons rendered India a eunuch country. So in our perception, and dare I say its borne out be objective facts, ModjI's intentions are pure. He is a staunch Hindu, and relates with majority of Hindus. I think a leader of a country is more than a CEO. He needs to have emotional connect with his people, and ModiJi does (and I grant Muslims and Christians and sections of Dalits hate his guts). He may have made gaffs in the demo/GST is implemented, but at the end of the day, he wants to do good for India and Hindus. And I can bet most of his supporters are of this view.

Those who hate ModiJi on the other hand, can cherry pick anything they like and paint a sorry picture of his leadership. And boy are his haters "blessed" in that India is plagued by so many problems. They just need to pick something, make an obscure relation to some policy prescription of ModiJi, and wallah, a causal connection is made between ModijI's rise to PM in 2014 and the problem they cherry picked. Nothing illustrates this more than Kashmir. I mean for 60+ years, the Muslims extremist fascists there have told Hindus in no uncertain terms that they hate us and want secession, and yet, all the ills of Kashmir are being blamed on ModiJi and BJP. The pseudo secular traitor perverts even have the audacity to say that BJP is an affront to Kashmiri Muslims. Make me laugh in contempt were it not tragic.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:18 pm
by Trilobite
SSundar wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:07 pm
Still, notebandhi needs to be done 3-4 times before people will be forced to move 100% to trackable monetary transactions.
You don't need notebandi for trackable monetary transactions (TMS). TMS can be implemented without it, e.g. all the nations which have TMS none of them had to resort to Notebandi to implement TMS.

Promoting digital transactions can be done without Notebandi.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:45 pm
by KL Dubey
SSundar wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:55 pm
MehtaRahulC wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:31 pm
It is clear that ALL GST reliefs came ONLY because Gujarat election.
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And it also clear that GST rates , limits, number of returns per year etc will become same as before after 6pm 14-dec-2017 after Gujarat voting ends
Could you please offer proof for this finding?

The first claim is just an opinion (we all have one). The second isn't a finding but a prediction. Mehtaji hopes it will be useful to scare people now but will be forgotten after Dec 15. :)

The effect of the NaMo-Shah juggernaut on the entire spectrum of political opponents is just amazing. Everyone is desperate to clutch at any straw and make up any extent of absurd allegations and theories.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:09 pm
by Indrad
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... r-4932007/
BJP leaders are facing ire of Patidars in places
no idea how true is this news..Guj is important for BJP to win.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:43 pm
by Indrad
No less than CJI passing controversial decision involving conflict of interest re himself!! https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 601086.cms?

NEW DELHI: Allegations about a judge-middleman nexus favouring medical colleges to admit students appeared to split the Supreme Court as well as the bar on Friday, with a five-judge Constitution Bench led by Chief Justice Dipak Misra annulling Thursday's order of a two-judge bench led by Justice J Chelameswar referring the matter to the first five senior SC judges.

The Constitution Bench termed the CJI the "master of the roster" and emphasised that no judge other than the CJI could list petitions before self or refer petitions to a bench or determine the number of judges on it. It said the order passed by Justices Chelameswar, the senior-most judge after the CJI, and S Abdul Nazir was an illegality.

The bench, comprising CJI Misra and Justices R K Agrawal, Arun Mishra, Amitava Roy and A M Khanwilkar, said, "As far as the roster... the CJI is the master of allocation of work as well as deciding the composition and number of judges on a bench. We make it clear without any hesitation that this is followed as a convention to maintain judicial discipline and decorum."

It added, "Once the CJI is recognised as the master of the roster, neither a two-judge bench nor a three-judge bench can allot a matter to itself or order constitution of a larger bench as if it is a direction to the CJI. Such an order cannot be passed. It is not in accordance with law and is irresponsible. An institution has to function within certain parameters and that is why there are rules. There cannot be a direction to the CJI to constitute a particular bench."

Making it amply clear that the order of Justices Chelameswar and Nazir was null and void, the five-judge bench stressed, "If any such order is passed by any bench, that should not hold the field as this will be counter to the order of the decision of this Constitution Bench of the SC. Needless to say, no judge can take up matters on his own without it being referred to the CJI."

The five-judge bench said the two petitions alleging a judge-middlemen nexus would be listed before an appropriate bench. Both petitions were based on common information — a CBI FIR that led to the arrest of a retired Orissa HC judge and several others in connection with a conspiracy to obtain favourable orders for private medical colleges from constitutional courts by offering illegal gratification to public servants and judges — and sought identical relief in setting up of an SIT to probe this under the supervision of a retired CJI.

Justices Chelameswar and Nazir had acceded on Wednesday to advocate Prashant Bhushan's request and ordered listing of a petition by Campaign for Judicial Accountability and Reforms (CJAR), which had alleged that the CBI FIR relating to admissions to a Lucknow-based private medical college had detailed how a judge-middleman nexus was being used to obtain orders favouring medical colleges debarred from admitting students.

The CJI had ordered listing of this petition on Friday before a bench of Justices A K Sikri and Ashok Bhushan.

However, on Thursday, senior advocate Dushyant Dave mentioned a petition by advocate Kamini Jaiswal, identical to CJAR's plea, for urgent hearing before a bench headed by Justice Chelameswar. Dave's persistent plea that the petition must be heard by Justice Chelameswar's bench, and not by the CJI as the latter had been hearing medical college cases, bore fruit with Justice Chelameswar's bench agreeing to hear the matter. It ordered the petition to be listed before a bench comprising the first five senior judges on Monday.

On Friday, the bench of Justices Sikri and Bhushan referred the CJAR petition to the CJI for listing before an appropriate bench. The CJI seized this opportunity and the registry took out a notification at 2.42 pm saying the matter would be heard by a seven-judge bench at 3 pm.

However, at 2.52 pm, another notification said the CJAR petition would be heard by a five-judge bench at 3 pm.

Word spread rapidly and the CJI's courtroom was packed with lawyers anxious to witness the unfolding events. Bhushan and Kamini Jaiswal were swamped by a sea of lawyers who demanded contempt of court action against them for making wild allegations moments after Bhushan said the CBI FIR in the medical scam mentioned the CJI's name.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:06 am
by SSundar
Trilobite wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:18 pm
SSundar wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:07 pm
Still, notebandhi needs to be done 3-4 times before people will be forced to move 100% to trackable monetary transactions.
You don't need notebandi for trackable monetary transactions (TMS). TMS can be implemented without it, e.g. all the nations which have TMS none of them had to resort to Notebandi to implement TMS.

Promoting digital transactions can be done without Notebandi.
How have other countries successfully implemented TMS?

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:38 am
by Hari Seldon
Mean-e-while, WB political khabar compilation from yesterdin.

https://twitter.com/manojsirsa/status/9 ... 9921538048
मनोज - Manoj‏ @manojsirsa 13m13 minutes ago
Ex- TMC Leader and now a BJPian Mukul Roy addresses massive public gathering in Kolkata special CC @TheQuint , @ishadrita @MamataOfficial @AITCofficial @quizderek
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Trinamool Congress is Now a Private Company, Not a Political Party: Mukul Roy
In his first public rally in Central Kolkata after joining the BJP, Mukul said, “We all know that U-17 FIFA world football tournament was sponsored by Biswa Bangla. But many of you don’t know that what is Biswa Bangla? I would like to reveal it today that it is not a government entity but a private company owned by Abhishek Banerjee (TMC MP). The company’s address is 30B Harish Chatterjee Street.”

Biswa Bangla Marketing Corporation was set up to improve the quality of life of Bengal’s handloom weavers and others involved in the crafts sector. Its main objective was to take Bengal’s art and craft to a global level through identification, documentation, conservation and revival of the traditional art forms.
Buswa bangla is actually Biswa BanglaDesh, IMHO.

BTW, Dunno how much impact allegations such as above may have. But will serve to tarnish this notorious simple-living aam aurat act of JihaDidi, hopefully.

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Mukul Roy targets Mamata Banerjee, nephew; she responds at Kolkata film festival (HT)
Hours after former Trinamool heavyweight and BJP leader Mukul Roy targeted Mamata Banerjee and her nephew Abhishek Banerjee on a number of issues, the West Bengal chief minister and her government dismissed the allegations as baseless.

At his first public rally in Kolkata after joining BJP last Friday, Roy targeted his former boss over the Saradha scam, dengue deaths, frequent foreign trips and the ownerships of Biswa Bangla, a brand promoted by the state government, and Jago Bangla, the Trinamool mouthpiece.

In her response — at the inauguration of the 23rd Kolkata International Film Festival (KIFF) attended by film stars Amitabh Bachchan, Shah Rukh Khan and Kamal Haasan and others — Mamata said, “People should broaden their mind instead of playing politics.”

“I don’t go abroad too often. I go once a year. This year, I visited the United Nations (referring to her trip to Hague) to accept an award given to our Kanyashree project,” she said, adding that she was going to London (she left on Friday night) because a plaque will be placed at the residence of Sister Nivedita.

“It is an honour for Bengal,” Mamata said in Bengali.
saga continues of Megasusu-lite awards being handed out by BIF sponsors to BIF sepoys. Such a-wart functions serve as useful, deniable platforms for networking, fundraising, planning etc between key BIF nodes (my theory).

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:48 am
by sanjayC
Now, subsidy for Maharashtra's Christians on Holy land pilgrimage
The Maharashtra Chief Minister has taken into consideration the Christian community's plea for a subsidy on their pilgrimage. Talks regarding this subsidy on the Holy land visit have been on for three years now. It was on March 23 that the CM affirmed to look into the matter, to make sure that Christians in Maharashtra benefit from the initiative.

Representatives from National Christian Council, Bombay, Catholic Sabha and United Churches of Mumbai attended the meeting. They expect about a 50-70% subsidy on their pilgrimage. Once the subsidy is made available, Maharashtra will be the third state after Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu to provide subsidy to the minorities in their respective states.

Gordon D'souza, president of Bombay Catholic Sabha said: "Every Christian wishes to visit Jerusalem, where Jesus was brought up, and Bethlehem, where he was born. This experience will surely lead to spiritual growth and visiting the Holy land is also an enriching experience."

Talking about how the subsidy would be a boon to the community, Marshall Jethsingh, national coordinator, Nation Christian Council said: "The pilgrimage is everybody's dream and the subsidy should make it possible for many to visit the place. It brings us great joy in knowing our plea has been taken into consideration, and hope at least 50,000 people in the state benefit from it."

Muslims have been enjoying the privilege for years as Hajj is one of the 6 tenets of Islam. In 2014, there were over 1,20,000 Hajjis who availed of the government quota.

Dr Jaykar Ellis, general secretary of National Christian Council said the group is hoping that the subsidy will be made available in a month's time. He added: "Visiting important places mentioned in the Bible will surely make a difference to people's understanding of the scriptures. It will also help devotees associate with stories that they have been reading since childhood."

Once this plea is sanctioned, the groups will start working towards helping pilgrims avail of the privilege at a national level.
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report-n ... ge-2072722