The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:58 am

40% turn out so far according to R tv.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rahul M » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:25 am

nachiket wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:37 pm
Has today's chanakya stopped doing polls after they bungled Delhi and Bihar badly?
they dont do opinion polls, only exit polls.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:38 pm

Just heard NaMos speech in Mehsana. I don't speak Gujarati, but its close enough to Hindi to get the gist of what he was saying. He did not dwell on the 'neech' comment too much but enough to drive home to point. He is portraying as an insult to poor people and to Gujaratis. The crowd was huge, enthusiastic and responsive. Nothing changed on that front. Talked of development, corruption, water and how congress CM Gehlot stopped water to them.

Didn't sound nervous at all as being made out by the congis and presstitutes.

Though from the photos it looks like NaMo has been addressing at some smaller grounds too, RG is holding rallies in much smaller grounds, perhaps just to give an impression of filling them up.

Perhaps, 150 is not out of realm.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:35 pm

Nothing Cong does seems shocks anymore. yawn.

Assam: Two govt employees arrested for ‘plot to kill Himanta Biswa Sarma (HT)
Assam Police have arrested two persons for allegedly planning to murder Himanta Biswa Sarma, an influential minister in the Sarbananda Sonowal-led BJP government in the state.

Fakruddin Ali and Pawan Ali, both fourth grade employees in the state health department, had allegedly sent SMSes to several former Congress ministers seeking Rs 5 crore to murder the minister.

Sarma, who holds finance, tourism, education and health portfolios, was a minister in the previous Congress regime led by Tarun Gogoi before he joined the saffron party in 2015.

“Based on information from reliable source, we nabbed the duo and seized a mobile phone from which they had sent four similar SMSes to different persons seeking money to kill Sarma,” Nabaneet Mahanta, additional superintendent of police Kamrup (Rural) told HT.

The SMSes were allegedly sent to mobile phones registered in the names of former chief minister Tarun Gogoi, former minister Rockybul Hussain and Congress leader Dulu Ahmed.

“The accused have told us that the fourth number belonged to state Congress chief Ripun Bora, but that is yet to be verified,” said Mahanta.

Both accused were arrested on Tuesday and were remanded to two days police custody. They were produced in a local court on Friday, which remanded them to 14 days of judicial custody.

“I got an objectionable message a few days back while I was in Delhi. I immediately talked to the Assam Police DGP about it and forwarded the SMS to him. Based on my intimation, the police conducted investigations and arrested the two people,” former minister Rockybul Hussain told HT.

State Congress president Ripun Bora didn’t respond to calls.

Police have registered a case against the accused under various sections of IPC for attempt to murder, criminal conspiracy, criminal intimidation by an anonymous communication etc. and are conducting further investigations .

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:49 pm

Watching Zee TV, it seems that the polling would cross 70% this time, which is going to be more beneficial to the BJP. JetLi claiming it will be a landslide victory.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:53 pm

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Pertinent Qs asked by a tweeper:
Mihir Jha ✍️‏ @MihirkJha 10h10 hours ago
Can EC ask Church to stop Prayers and Mosque to stop Namaz? Both Church & Mosque have been found involved in issuing Fatwa against BJP

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SRoy » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:22 pm

^^
That EC bullshit is an assault on religious freedom.
Bringing in the Church or the Mosque in the discussion doesn't help. EC shouldn't stop them either.

What's illegitimate is the fake democracy and its paraphernalia imposed upon us.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:20 pm

Leaving aside predictions on the final outcome in Gujarat, I can safely predict the following with probability 1:

1. If Congis win, there will be a Tsunami of euphoria from the likes of Undy's randis' to Pankaj Misras in NYT, Burka in WP etc. It will surely hit the headlines in western rags who otherwise don't have much to report on India except the usual cliches. Swathi Chaturvedi, Turdesai, Pagalika, Rana Ayyub, Sreenivassan Jain, Zaka Jacob, Nidhi Razdan, Saba Naqvi etc will have a wild party in Lutyen's Delhi with Pappu look-alike male strippers as they all, both men and women, ogle and go wild over booze and group sex.

2. If BJP wins but narrowly and Congis get 80+, the celebrations won't be as wild as #1, but Pappu will assume a messianic status and there will be endless talk of Pappu, Mamta Jihadi, Crazywaal etc getting together for 2019. Maybe even some pseduo seculars like Pawan Verma of JDU who still seem uncomfortable with Nitishwa's Ghar wapsi may decide to become Pappu slaves.

3. If BJP wins comfortably or big like in UP, you can be rest assured there will be a Tsunami in the opposite directions: from EVM tampering, to ModiJi's invoking of Aurangazeb and Babur, to some isolated BJP MLA saying something nutty about Muslims yada yada; i.e., BJP won because of Hindu fascism, Nazi rule in Gujarat you name it. Western rags will have Saba Naqvi, Rana Ayyub types puke the same in their rags.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sridhar k » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:04 pm

Where is Dilbu? His absence like Pravin Patil is felt even in the twitter world that Atri ji has jumped in the fray

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:25 am

Simply loving this. The Yogi ji ki jai ho, jai ho yogiji ki!
Divya Kumar Soti‏Verified account @DivyaSoti 9h9 hours ago
. @myogiadityanath government to celebrate Barsana's Holi in a big way (Radha Krishna played Holi in Barsana).

Also allots Rs 100 Crores for the development of Naimisharanya, the place where most of the Puranas were narrated and compiled.
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At long last, another Hindu Hriday Samrat arises. An unapologetic one, without the rough edges of a Balasahaeb or the overt-caution of a Modi. Only.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:47 am

Appointing Yogi as the CM of UP was a true masterstroke by the BJP. It is the biggest and most important state in terms of its impact on Indian psyche and political value. If UP truly becomes a saffron nation in real terms it will trigger a tsunami of change across the entire nation.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:13 am

Yogiji's (superficial) bold act is ensuring that
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(1) Hinduvaadies dont notice higher birth rate in Islamists,
(2) Hinduvaadies dont notice Bangladeshi infilitration
(3) Hinduvaadies also dont notice massive growth in Missionaries' followers, and massive funds that Missionaries get via CSR and other means
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The small / medium traders and manufacturers were big donors to temples and many sects. Notebandhi massively weakened them and GST is further weakening them. So their ability to fund their sects is decreasing, which against helps Missionaries.
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And Yogiji's superficial bold actions help Hinduvaadies in un-noticing all these trends going om/.
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Appointment of Yogiji as CM is a masterstroke by Modiji, RSS-leaders and RSS-workers

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:33 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:13 am
Yogiji's (superficial) bold act is ensuring that
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(1) Hinduvaadies dont notice higher birth rate in Islamists,
(2) Hinduvaadies dont notice Bangladeshi infilitration
(3) Hinduvaadies also dont notice massive growth in Missionaries' followers, and massive funds that Missionaries get via CSR and other means
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The small / medium traders and manufacturers were big donors to temples and many sects. Notebandhi massively weakened them and GST is further weakening them. So their ability to fund their sects is decreasing, which against helps Missionaries.
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And Yogiji's superficial bold actions help Hinduvaadies in un-noticing all these trends going om/.
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Appointment of Yogiji as CM is a masterstroke by Modiji, RSS-leaders and RSS-workers
Well bhakts may not be noticing, but hindutvavadis definitely are.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by gakakkad » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:35 pm

where is pravin patil ?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:46 am

Government of UP‏Verified account @UPGovtFollow Follow @UPGovt
'Chuppi Todo, Khulkar Bolo' is the first ever & largest such drive organised by @Uppolice & #UPGovt on instructions of #UPCM Shri #YogiAdityanath to empower & encourage young girls to stand up against crimes against women. #womensafetyweekupp #HerWeekEveryYear
Do watch the 2 minute advert also at the tweet link here.

Like one tweeper puts it:
हम भारत के लोग‏ @India_Policy 32m32 minutes ago
More हम भारत के लोग Retweeted Government of UP
Great campaign. In the hinterland, many victims remain silent either coz of fear or shame, or for having no confidence in Police. And that is the biggest weapon that perpetrators have. Important to change this.
Nce work. Shows a proactive state govt stance, openness to ideas, feedback and all, clear identification with common people being served etc.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by abhijit » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:30 am

any local news from phase 1 votes? How did BJP do?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:10 am

abhijit wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:30 am
any local news from phase 1 votes? How did BJP do?
Dunno. Conflicting news in DDM as usual. ET e.g., claims some 40 seats in phase 1 are for BJP from North GJ.

Some 68% voting happened. Higher is better for BJP usually.

P.S. Did seem like NM exerted himself quote a bit this time. And bringing in emotive issues kinda suddenly too (Pakistan, Ahmed Patel, Aiyar, name-calling by INC etc) after so many years kinda says either he's headed for a clean sweep and wants to leave no stone unturned for it, or that its quite close with INC actually in the game for a simple majority.

Which one it is will soon be known.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:17 am

Here's what I'm talking about. The ch00ts in INC will play the victim game now seems like...

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:40 am

I think Modi has done the right thing by bringing public focus on Pakistani- INC-Left connections in the open.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:05 pm

Hari Seldon wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:10 am
abhijit wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:30 am
any local news from phase 1 votes? How did BJP do?
Dunno. Conflicting news in DDM as usual. ET e.g., claims some 40 seats in phase 1 are for BJP from North GJ.

Some 68% voting happened. Higher is better for BJP usually.

P.S. Did seem like NM exerted himself quote a bit this time. And bringing in emotive issues kinda suddenly too (Pakistan, Ahmed Patel, Aiyar, name-calling by INC etc) after so many years kinda says either he's headed for a clean sweep and wants to leave no stone unturned for it, or that its quite close with INC actually in the game for a simple majority.

Which one it is will soon be known.
I remember the same was said during the UP elections, that he had worked too hard, walking the streets of Varanasi simply to ensure that he gets the maximum votes, either because it was a close election or because BJP wanted a clean sweep.

It would be a tragedy of epic proportions for the people of Gujarat if they elect the Congoons back in power, seems like they've forgotten who perpetrated the Godhra Kaand. There will be vengeance of the major kind against Hindus despite all the show of support for Hindu causes. If this happens, Gujaratis will only have themselves to blame.

This is particularly ironic in the Kachh and the north which was devastated by the earthquake of 2001 when Modi first made himself known, long before he became the CM. He was single-handedly responsible (from what I've read) for rebuilding and rehabilitating the area and its residents. If they now vote for a party of thieves and crooks it would be really sad.

However, I am still confident of a BJP victory overall. Hard to equate with the possibility of Gujarat not electing the son of the soil.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by abhijit » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:47 pm

BJP should in return question what was congress's reason to invite pakistanis to their private function, or the function was specifically for pakistanis.

Good that modi brought this to public. More stringent questions need to be raised about this private relationship which goes beyond official reasons. Everything they accused modi of he has done it in official capacity. Although I am not convinced why GoI invited pakistani to pathankot.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:07 pm

pappu on why newzealand does not export milk to India. The kicker is in the end of the video. :rotfl:


https://twitter.com/ikpsgill1/status/938744096285343746

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by KL Dubey » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:14 pm

NaMo communicates directly with the people in Gujarati language in every rally. Pappu communicates through clichéd Hindi, and Manmohtarma communicates through long replies in English newspapers ("I am deeply anguished....") :lol:

No prizes for guessing who has a better chance of getting through to the aam aadmi of Gujarat.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:03 pm

modi will get crowd. amit shah will get turnout in ground game / organization. this is a formidable combo. even in states that they lost - DL and BH, bjp voteshare did not shrink. It was coalition arithmetic.

GJ will indeed be an indicator of how much congress arguments of people suffering under demo, GST can be effective. This will be their primary weapon going into 2019.

highlighting cow related violence and incidents of minority killings have reached the point of diminishing returns and pushing it any more will only 'reverse polarize'.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by KL Dubey » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:18 pm

http://indianexpress.com/elections/guja ... s-4977380/
7:59 pm: Maneka Gandhi says a Congress candidate in Vadodara told her that he did not want to even contest the polls. “He told me he was forced to contest and since the party has sent funds, he will keep some of it for himself and contest the polls. You all know the truth.”
:P if this is the state of the Congi candidates, they must have truly fallen apart.

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