The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by KarthikSan » Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:33 am

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While we are at it, we should also expel Intel,AMD, Qualcomm and Cisco because they also provide backdoor entry for NSA/CIA through their chips. And go back to the stone age!!!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Vikas » Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:53 am

How many Times ModiJi and AS have to prove themselves. 18+ states and counting and yet you folks start throwing innuendoes against him forgetting that he is PM of Bharat and not Hindus alone.
Stop being like Saswati Sarkar and Mediacrook kind of SM warriors, who think of themselves high and mighty just because few 10000 folks follow them.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:30 am

TDP quits NDA. And supporting YSR Congress in its no confidence motion.
CBN has been parroting this line of BJP not keeping its word right after 2014 elections. Now he is saying Modi is in cohorts with YSR Congress and Pawan Kalyan to undermine him. I somehow am beginning to believe he is saying the truth.
If TDP is saying the truth, how did they know of BJP intentions so early.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:34 am

This is CBN strategy to fight anti-incumbency. He does it everytime using one excuse or the other. But this is good for BJP. They can go alone in TS and try to mop up the TDP, YRSC and INC votes and become the opposition in TS. These three parties are weakening in TS. In AP they can test their strength and tie-up with whichever party wins post elections.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:49 am

TRS is still very popular in TS. TDP is already zero in TS. TDP biggies left for TRS or Congress but not BJP. By this measure, even BJP does not seem to be doing any better in TS.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:01 am

Yes, but there will be anti-TRS space in TS. BJP will try to occupy it. This has happened in many places latest in Tripura.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:38 am

Vikas wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:53 am
How many Times ModiJi and AS have to prove themselves. 18+ states and counting and yet you folks start throwing innuendoes against him forgetting that he is PM of Bharat and not Hindus alone.
Stop being like Saswati Sarkar and Mediacrook kind of SM warriors, who think of themselves high and mighty just because few 10000 folks follow them.
Its not against NM and AS.

WTF were all the other so called karyakarthas doing?? Aren't these by polls the collective responsibility of the UP govt??

A govt that owes it's very existence to the NM and AS duo's untiring efforts?? Maybe a major point has been proven and the utter incompetence of the "selected" candidates to fight elections has been exposed.

Waiting for NM and AS to do the usual heavy lifting, while they just lolled around waiting for the fruits of their leader's labors to miraculously drop into their waiting, gaping and voracious mouths??

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:43 am

Third front is being formed. The leaders are strong in areas where Congress has declined. The idea will be to let Congress fight where it is strong and they will fight where they are strong and then align post-poll. This is a well thought out strategy and has the best possible chances of success. The forces have aligned and we are going to see the Mahabharatha battle. Modi and Shah will be fighting the battle of their life as all the anti-BJP forces are now aligned.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by suryag » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:09 am

The anti Hindu Modi Govt has done this
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Post by Primus » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:54 am

Rethinking about the UP by-elections, in a way I am glad this happened. Although a big blow psychologically, it serves as a healthy reminder that complacency and over-confidence will bring you down. Several mistakes were made in this election:

1. Wrong candidate against a rabidly caste based voting public Dalits would never vote for a Brahmin
2. Poor efforts by the BJP cadres in promoting their cause - too confident
3. Poor voter turn out by BJP supporters - everyone thought somebody else would go out and vote
4. Under estimation of the power of a combined SP and BSP and the forces aligned along caste lines.

1.2. and 3. are correctable and can potentially overcome 4.

There is no doubt that it will be a difficult battle ahead, and one that the BJP may not win. However, if they do and I believe there is a good chance they will, then the BIF will not recover easily which is why they will put all their might into it. OTOH, if the BJP lose, our dreams of a Dharmic India will be lost forever.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by suryag » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:06 am

One thing that this Govt should do atleast now is to fast track all corruption cases narada, sarada, damaad ji, hooda, PC, everything and have verdicts handed out by CBI/session courts by end of this year and show the public the amount of corruption that was taking place, but will they ? can they?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:17 pm

regardless of how the breakup happens within NDA,

eventually bjp will either be the ruling or main opposition in every state.

it won't be junior partner or "MP for me, MLA for you" strategy of congress.

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Re: : The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:49 pm

Primus wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:54 am
Rethinking about the UP by-elections, in a way I am glad this happened. Although a big blow psychologically, it serves as a healthy reminder that complacency and over-confidence will bring you down. Several mistakes were made in this election:

1. Wrong candidate against a rabidly caste based voting public Dalits would never vote for a Brahmin
2. Poor efforts by the BJP cadres in promoting their cause - too confident
3. Poor voter turn out by BJP supporters - everyone thought somebody else would go out and vote
4. Under estimation of the power of a combined SP and BSP and the forces aligned along caste lines.

1.2. and 3. are correctable and can potentially overcome 4.

There is no doubt that it will be a difficult battle ahead, and one that the BJP may not win. However, if they do and I believe there is a good chance they will, then the BIF will not recover easily which is why they will put all their might into it. OTOH, if the BJP lose, our dreams of a Dharmic India will be lost forever.
Sir you forgot to mention the "minority" population votes. That should have been your no 1 reason.
BTW what exactly happened to BIF ? AFAIK they are carrying on their business as usual for last 4 years.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:50 pm

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:08 pm

there is strong under current of support for Lalu after he is jailed in Chara ghotala. His son has been hobnobbing with radical Islamists in Darbhanga & Patna. And this is precisely the area from where Bhatkal & many SIMI leaders have been arrested in past.
Many Yadavs in Bihar feel Modi is behind Lalu going to jail.
From hearsay Nitish is cowering in fear what if Lalu & Islamist return to power.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:57 pm

hanumadu wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:30 am
TDP quits NDA. And supporting YSR Congress in its no confidence motion.
CBN has been parroting this line of BJP not keeping its word right after 2014 elections. Now he is saying Modi is in cohorts with YSR Congress and Pawan Kalyan to undermine him. I somehow am beginning to believe he is saying the truth.
If TDP is saying the truth, how did they know of BJP intentions so early.

All is fair in politics, especially when retribution comes calling. There was no basic trust for naidu, his moves were all gamed to get him into the driving seat of the central govt just like the last time around. Hope that they bury this charlatan for good this time. He needs to be away from the scrutiny of the BJP to refill "his" coffers for the next round. Allegations of corruption are already flying thick and fast in AP


His game plan was destroyed when the BJP had no need for him, just like TMC, BJD, jayalalitha and many others tried.

The game plan would be the same once again, in 2019. Having come this far, the BJP will still dominate but maybe with not as many seats as 2014.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:25 pm

BJP is now putting out figures on how much it gave AP as part of central assistance, some of which are probably disputed by CBN. Call me conspiracy theorist, but BJP waited for CBN to pull out before putting out these figures. It could have as well done the same before TDP left NDA.
https://twitter.com/PiyushGoyal/status/ ... 0237503488

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More images in the tweet.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:11 pm

CBN spent only 7,000 cr rupees on polavaram in the last 4 years. If it is so important to AP and the project is expected to cost 50,000 cr rupees, how many years will he take to complete it?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:22 pm

BTW, talking about UP, wasn't behenji's party supposed to be completely down in the dumps after DeMo?

If they are indeed down in the dumps and hence ceded the two by-polls to SP, then this means they will also be taking a backseat to SP across the entire state - not by choice but due to inability. That means SP could reemerge as a stronger force in 2019.

If BSP is no longer in the dumps but regenerated it's wealth, isn't that a failure of the war on black money?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:33 pm

SSundar wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:22 pm
BTW, talking about UP, wasn't behenji's party supposed to be completely down in the dumps after DeMo?

If they are indeed down in the dumps and hence ceded the two by-polls to SP, then this means they will also be taking a backseat to SP across the entire state - not by choice but due to inability. That means SP could reemerge as a stronger force in 2019.

If BSP is no longer in the dumps but regenerated it's wealth, isn't that a failure of the war on black money?

When it comes to political funding which party do you think is most corrupt?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Vikas » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:34 pm

What are the odds that BJP will call elections before time to not allow mahagathbandhan to settle down rather than wait for May'2019 ?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Vikas » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:35 pm

Trilobite wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:33 pm
SSundar wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:22 pm
BTW, talking about UP, wasn't behenji's party supposed to be completely down in the dumps after DeMo?

If they are indeed down in the dumps and hence ceded the two by-polls to SP, then this means they will also be taking a backseat to SP across the entire state - not by choice but due to inability. That means SP could reemerge as a stronger force in 2019.

If BSP is no longer in the dumps but regenerated it's wealth, isn't that a failure of the war on black money?

When it comes to political funding which party do you think is most corrupt?
Congress followed closely by SP/BSP/JD/XXDMK/TDP/RJD/TMC and NCP :)) :))

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:39 pm

SSundar wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:22 pm
BTW, talking about UP, wasn't behenji's party supposed to be completely down in the dumps after DeMo?
My gut feeling is that all political outfits (or any other outfit) who have lost their fortunes during De.Mo are now regrouping their cash resources in double time. The politicians have a source of people who would be able to supply them with "ready cash", and they are all now in a hyperactive mode. A few symptoms what I see in my suburban village. No ATM has cash during the week ends (during the last 4-5 months), and all the while all political parties are having large scale gatherings one after the other. Spectacular crowd, and I am sure each participant has got his packet of booze and money. Wine shops etc. are adding up the "service costs" (which ideally the card company would give back to them) to the card when liquor purchases are done. For an individual, this may be around 5-20 Rs. extra on his card. In my area a simple plastic cover (for booze) is charged extra at Rs.5/-. Now think about the volume of sales in such outlets.

In UP Behenji may be down for now, may have to play a second fiddle to Jr. Yadav; but all of them would have started their regrouping exercise by now.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:50 pm

suryag wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:06 am
One thing that this Govt should do atleast now is to fast track all corruption cases narada, sarada, damaad ji, hooda, PC, everything and have verdicts handed out by CBI/session courts by end of this year and show the public the amount of corruption that was taking place, but will they ? can they?
Saar, recall that of one the accused in Sharada/Narada scam, Mukul Roy of TMC was inducted into BJP with much fanfare, so not sure how much of Sharada/Narada will be pursued especially when he may be useful in landing a few seats in WB in 2019.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:54 pm

Vikas wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:35 pm
Trilobite wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:33 pm
SSundar wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:22 pm
BTW, talking about UP, wasn't behenji's party supposed to be completely down in the dumps after DeMo?

If they are indeed down in the dumps and hence ceded the two by-polls to SP, then this means they will also be taking a backseat to SP across the entire state - not by choice but due to inability. That means SP could reemerge as a stronger force in 2019.

If BSP is no longer in the dumps but regenerated it's wealth, isn't that a failure of the war on black money?

When it comes to political funding which party do you think is most corrupt?
Congress followed closely by SP/BSP/JD/XXDMK/TDP/RJD/TMC and NCP :)) :))
Oops, I forgot to say that I wanted an honest answer!

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