The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

[SSundar]

Modi is long overdue for a surgical strike that proves his pro-Hindutva credentials. This one does not have to be huge like building the RJB temple. It can be as little as appointing a more balanced NGT or visible action against PFI. In the last 3 years, he has left zero ambiguity in the minds of the people that he is focused on economy, anti-corruption and can make Pakistan hurt real bad. Something similar has to be done to show his commitment to Hindu issues.

[shynee]

Con party had around 40+ MLA's in the last Assembly. Barely they couldn't hold on to them. Had to take them to Karnataka for safe keep for the RS elections. How are they going to Keep this herd of 80 MLA's without Power for 5 years ?

Unlike last time, it will be lot easier for Ahmed Patel to go back to RS. I bet AS looking into it

[KJo]

Jai Ho!

As far as GJ is concerned, it is good that BJP did not have a cakewalk. This will keep them on their toes and not let them talk their electorate for granted. This is well in advance of 2019 so they can prepare their next Hindutva strike.

All good onlee.

[Gus]

Err shynee brush up on Indian civics

rs term is 6 years. AP will outlast this assembly.

[hanumadu]

Err shynee brush up on Indian civics

rs term is 6 years. AP will outlast this assembly.

Which is a good thing if BJP can grab 150+ during next Gujarat elections

[hanumadu]

So why couldn't have BJP increased MSP or done a farm loan waiver? Its better than give congress a foot hold. I hope this issue is being looked into in other states. Congress will screw up the economy any way. So why not take a hit with BJP only and stay in power?

[shynee]

My bad, didn't know that. Thanks. I hope Supreme Court invalidates his election or the Agustawestland case will do the trick. That bugger is poisnous

Err shynee brush up on Indian civics

rs term is 6 years. AP will outlast this assembly.

[Gus]

Looks like 12 odd seats in saurashtra alone. All other areas have similar results as before?

Many seats with close margins on both sides so that kinda cancels each other.

[Gus]

I trust Amit shah to make course corrections and preempt these issues before next election. They’ve shown that they have mechanism to get feedback and are willing to go back on decisions if necessary (like the cattle sale notification which was dropped quietly).

[shynee]

Gujarat election results: Why BJP got more votes, but fewer seats -TOI

[SSundar]

I trust Amit shah to make course corrections and preempt these issues before next election. They’ve shown that they have mechanism to get feedback and are willing to go back on decisions if necessary (like the cattle sale notification which was dropped quietly).

Any idea why it got dropped quietly? It didn't make sense to drop it. It regulates cattle trade and would have eventually paved the way for full legalization of all slaughter businesses - something that Yogi bulldozed forward in UP with hardly any resistance.

[Hari Seldon]

5.5 lakh NOTA in GJ.

Enough to wipe out many a lose margin contest in many a seat.

Now who might these voters be? My guess: The Hindutvawadi voters perhaps, who are putoff by BJP's games (take-'em-for-granted) but can't get themselves to vote for an anti-Hindu Cong.

Am sure the sangh feedback ecosystem will shed light on these folks as well. And hope it sparks internal debate, introspection and course-correction. Onlee.

[Hari Seldon]

Caste play is left-hands play for congress. They found a couple of fellows in gujarat and threw an IOI biscuit of caste reservations and bjp had to fly down every minister to campaign till modis throat became hoarse. They'll light fires all over india that modi will have to combat. Unless they take the initiative, they'll have to react to several such Hardiks and mewanis. Remember, we have ka, raj, mp elections next year. All big states. Con will be emboldened in these states where they have a significant presence unlike gujarat.

Take the initiative, put them on the backfoot and make THEM react. Call openly for hindu causes - rte, 93rd amendment, review of art 30, fix gst problems, move on the ganga project (thank god for course correction& putting gadkari there). Vikas vikas alone wont get you vote when hindu votebank is prone to caste fractures. All IOI fellows have to do is promise more reservations, play up modi nazi shouts and you will lose vote share. A nation-wide guj type low vote difference win will cause a hung parliament at best and you'll be out of power. Then Con will bring in CVB and more sectarian $hit and you'll have to wait another ten years at a minimum.

Can't afford anymore panipats.

++1.

Mahakala san, thou art articulated moi sentiment better than moi could have.

Hajaar thanks and pranaams, sirjee!

[abhijit]

Something major positive needs to happen in next one year to wipe out any hope opposition might have.

[Karthik]

Seems NOTA played major role where BJP lost. Also, 10L women stayed home compared to 2014 GE.

[Trilobite]

I think BJP won Gujarat in the last 10 days, specially after MSY again shot Congress in the foot. Modi completely changed the tone and tenor of campaigning in the last 10 days and that is what made the difference.

[Singha]

Guj has been a momentous day for BIF forces and their cats paws all over

RaGa also has finally been elevated from a club class power to a national level politician with some prestige and track record of bringing in seats. this will give Congis a good hand when the next gatbandhan is formed in 2018. and it will curtail Niku's old ambition of being a consensus leader of gatbandhan over Raga. he is sitting with BJP now, but might switch again if they give him bihar to rule in exchange for splitting with bjp and engineering the vital 80 LS seats of Bihar. same for mayawati + mulayam - they might hate each other, but surely hate more having to lie low .. they can always unite in favour of "secular & inclusive forces" next year whether inside or extending outside support.

its a question of survival for such satraps. BJP in power at state level cuts deeply into cash flow. if this continues for long , they will face problems in election funds and keeping their people together.

so ABM - anyone but modi is the mantra for GE2019

[Singha]

as LukeS says in latest film - at the height of their power and prestige, the Jedi council were complacent and blind to Chancellor Palpatine (Darth Sidious) infiltrating and subverting the federal council, which led to the fall of the republic, massacre of the jedis barring a few like master yoda and obi-wan, Anakin who had the potential to succeed master yoda got consumed by the dark side, Padme died and wholesale tyranny and destruction under the new Imperium.

if BJP loses GE2019, rest assured similar things will happen. INC never makes the same kind of dharmaraja mistakes that BJP continues to make.

[Hari Seldon]

as LukeS says in latest film - at the height of their power and prestige, the Jedi council were complacent and blind to Chancellor Palpatine (Darth Sidious) infiltrating and subverting the federal council, which led to the fall of the republic, massacre of the jedis barring a few like master yoda and obi-wan, Anakin who had the potential to succeed master yoda got consumed by the dark side, Padme died and wholesale tyranny and destruction under the new Imperium.

if BJP loses GE2019, rest assured similar things will happen. INC never makes the same kind of dharmaraja mistakes that BJP continues to make.

+1.

And here's perception on the ground.

kanimozhi ‏ @kanimozhi 11h11 hours ago
Replying to @AAOLion @Janamejayan and 20 others
We do not want hard or soft Hindutva, All we need is justice. Repealing RTE, NGT & 370, Passing Anti conversion central bill & UCC, freedom of temple, Ram Mandir, punishing UPA Criminals who looted the nation are simple & basic Justice & nothing else.

BJP may end up like the proverbial dhobi ka kutta - neither here nor there - at the height of its nominal power and prestige.

Time to take off the gloves on Hindu identity issues (in parallel to the development agenda) and fight + be seen as unapologetically fighting for Hindu causes. Onlee.

[Hari Seldon]

For the record.

[Singha]

the Jedi fatally hesitated and followed democratic norms in not interfering in the federal council even when they knew bad things were going on... orchestrated by the Sith...and the trade federations .... and weapons dealing planets ....

history repeats.

[kittoo]

I guess there is a silver lining in BJP not winning very convincingly in Gujrat. Hopefully they will learn the right lessons (especially when seeing the contrast with UP) and work on Hindutva issues. Let's see.
Next 2-3 state elections aren't looking food for BJP. Karnataka BJP is comatose, despite Karnataka having such a bad Jehadi Congress government. (Although, it must be said, that it's the foolishness of us Hindus only that we elect our own killers). Rajasthan BJP is no better. Its almost like Manmohan sarkar- completely on auto-pilot.
Only MP might be a saving grace.

[syam]

Most worrying is the hindus themselves. I don't know what they will do once BJP loses election. They almost let Congress win. And now being happy with teaching BJP a big lesson.

As long as HIndus watch things from sidelines like some spectators, we will always have this leadership and power crisis. This poisonous cry baby environment going to be death of our community.

Some BJP leader with his cadre fights some commies in Kerala. Unfortunately some causalities will happen. What general hindu response is, BJP betraying their own cadre. Forget about the cadre and their own personal choices. Instead of strengthening the leader after his loss, hindus tend to bash him up for his failure. Ring any bells? Go through our history. Same thing happened 1000 years back.

This whole thing become mockery of sort. Coward bunch. Can't come out of their home. But gives advice to every one on the field. If something not working means, it needs more people. Instead of joining the cause, people do cricket analysis from sidelines.

We are doomed not because BJP didn't respect mandate. Because Hindus are such a useless people and don't put any effort for the betterment of their community.

[Aditya_V]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 127627.cms

BJP RS numbers are 57- NDA 87, in April out of 55 for reelection , I think BJP will get 30 seats with NDA another 5-8 seats. With AIDMK, expect more quiet action on Bills passed in RS after that. The thing is BIF should not be given chance to see amendments in LS, RS with thier media speculation, these things must be passed quietly as fast.

The down side is next month 3 AAP members will become RS MP's, expect outrageous behavior

[Sachin]

Any idea why it got dropped quietly? It didn't make sense to drop it. It regulates cattle trade and would have eventually paved the way for full legalization of all slaughter businesses - something that Yogi bulldozed forward in UP with hardly any resistance.

My understanding is that, the order was taken back in order to formalise and make it even more detailed. Every state has been asked for the opinion on this issue (because cattle fairs, abbatoirs are also under state's perview). These responses would be taken up for a detailed discussion early next year. And the new law would be drafted after incorporating the feedback, with off course the majority opinion being factored in. The new law, may have a better standing than an executive order which was ambiguous any ways.

Coward bunch. Can't come out of their home. But gives advice to every one on the field. If something not working means, it needs more people. Instead of joining the cause, people do cricket analysis from sidelines.

Well said. Infact at times, I even wonder why folks join BJP or RSS. Ridiculed by their own Hindu brethren, physically attacked by the "secular" parties, and yet considered to be the most cruel sub-humans. It takes some real faith in one's own belief system to continue in BJP & RSS.