The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by manju » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:50 am

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by manju » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:51 am

Hari Seldon wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:43 pm
Dakshin kannada is ripe for revolution.

Its the Hyderabad-Karnataka region that needs special focus - residual influence of the the reddy bhais of bellary otoriety may come in use after all, if cards are played well, perhaps.

Bengaluru-mysuru region is a vokkaliga hotbed, won't e easy to wrest from JDS which will almost surely tie up overtly or covertly with INC.
Hindi se kaam chalega Hubballi mei, and most parts of Karnataka, especially in North Karnataka. Definitely way more than English

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by fanne » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:03 pm

The good news is that on 60 seats where JDs is strong, It's competitor is MOSTLY Congress. Another 180 seats, BJP is strong (and in spite of 34% vote share at state level, it has almost 45% vote share where it fights and wins) and in fight. JDS though has some influence in all these 180 seats to make things difficult for BJP. BJP should think of bringing JDS in its fold.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:09 pm

^ That was tried. Kumaraswamy did his 6 months as CMand then promptly turned around and dumped BJP. A la Mayawati.

JDS depends on sickular votes in any case, will not have any truck with BJP. Good in a way. If they don't get into power, it would be 2 back-2-back terms out of power for fumble harmer and brood.

If so, go all out and crush these chaps. Use saam-daam-dand-bhed, get defections, defecations, whatever to break that party up.

Would be good riddance to yet another caste-ist, clan-based, corrupt, clownhouse. Only.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by fanne » Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:49 pm

Lets not hate all caste group. The one on side of Dharma in this dhramyudh are welcomed. It is no use to be principled and loose the war and then get slaughtered. This script has been tried at least 50,000 times in India for the past 1000 years and the result has only been one sided. I think BJP can take a second chance and expect a different outcome, rather than try it 50,001 time and expect a different outcome.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:15 pm

Hope this is true. Would be great if a competent GoI spokie confirms this.
Major Gaurav Arya

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8-10 Pak Army soldiers killed in cross LoC raid by Indian Army Commandos. This raid is very relevant because we crossed LoC to specifically target Pak Army personnel. This sends a message to Pak Army. The message is “We are watching you. We will find you. We will kill you”.
https://twitter.com/majorgauravarya/sta ... 9219819520

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:19 pm

chetak wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:08 am
many reports in the press of Hindu children in xtian schools being punished for wearing a bindi or mehandi on their hands.

all this seems to be of no concern to the BJP spokies.

The biased ICSE school syllabus denigrating Hindu traditions is not even mentioned.
And of course they would never acknowledge or publish pictures like this one. You won't see this in any country in the middle-East or in Israel, non-Christian kids all dressed up as Santas, being driven by a Sikh, in the heart of Punjab. Although a few years old, the photos illustrates another aspect - the increased conversions going on in Punjab, Bajwa Ji may know more about this.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by fanne » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:39 pm

HS Sir, the Napaki have been killed, the usual suspects for Indian side - facebook, twitter have confirmed, a GOI press release has also happened. Thing to retrospect - Why have lack in faith in GOI and in Modi? You can even take this to a ridiculous level, be asked to flown to Loc, shown the dead body and (these could be actors), an UN majority voted to confirm the news is right (I know you are not the second type)..but why this disbelieve? An AAPian saying that this is all fake and Modi is feku, I get this (actually I don't but lets pretend one can explain that), but why you or us?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:46 pm

^ A link or so would be nice, which can then be waved n shared around.

Also, lotsa commentary on soc media i find unreliable. Only.

P.S. Where did u get this ridiculous idea that i doubt GoI's words? Far from it.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:50 pm

Hari Seldon wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:15 pm
Hope this is true. Would be great if a competent GoI spokie confirms this.
Major Gaurav Arya

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8-10 Pak Army soldiers killed in cross LoC raid by Indian Army Commandos. This raid is very relevant because we crossed LoC to specifically target Pak Army personnel. This sends a message to Pak Army. The message is “We are watching you. We will find you. We will kill you”.
https://twitter.com/majorgauravarya/sta ... 9219819520
why should some army spokie confirm the news, saar??

Major Gaurav Arya just did and that is called plausible deniability.

The message is crisp and clear.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by fanne » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:58 pm

HS sir, visit the surgical strike thread ...

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:09 pm

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New Gujarat government: Vijay Rupani, a jain CM and ministers - 3 Kadwa Patels, 3 Leuva Patels, 3 Kshatriyas, 3 Tribals, 1 Brahmin, 1 Ahir, 1 Koli, 1 Chaudhary Patel, 1 Dalit, 1 Thakore, 1 Koli Patel.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:28 pm

this should be made known to the lootyens paki pasands and the wagah kandle kissers.

please retweet if you can


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Somedays we do a story tht disgusts us. Today was one such day. But it wasnt cuz of what I covered. Rather it was cuz of how my fellow journos behaved with mother & wife of #KulbushanJadhav whn they left FO building. They shouted taunts. It was very shameful
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by srikumar » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:08 am

Not wanting to prolong the exchange on the recent strike across LoC but I do wish that a low level govt. official made a statement, however brief. Uska effect kuch aur hi hota hai (as compared with an informal source).

As far as plausible deniability is concerned, it is about 10-15 years past its expiry date. We do not want plausible deniability anymore. IMHO anyway. If Pakistani fauj had any sense of honour (and not tortured serving soldiers captured at Kargil), yes a fig leaf could have been given to them. In any case, Pakistan provides India with complete deniability- (not just plausible)- the GOI announced the cross-LoC strikes after Uri, and Pakistan firmly denied it 100%.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:27 am

srikumar wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:08 am
Not wanting to prolong the exchange on the recent strike across LoC but I do wish that a low level govt. official made a statement, however brief. Uska effect kuch aur hi hota hai (as compared with an informal source).

As far as plausible deniability is concerned, it is about 10-15 years past its expiry date. We do not want plausible deniability anymore. IMHO anyway. If Pakistani fauj had any sense of honour (and not tortured serving soldiers captured at Kargil), yes a fig leaf could have been given to them. In any case, Pakistan provides India with complete deniability- (not just plausible)- the GOI announced the cross-LoC strikes after Uri, and Pakistan firmly denied it 100%.
+1 saar. Wonderful articulation.

Besides, 'informal' plausibly deniable sources, esp on soc media tend to twist, exaggerate and other distort (perhaps unintentionally) facts. No disrespect meant to Maj Arya, of course but a more general observation.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:33 am

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As the fateful hour for the above approaches in 2018, kindly expect and brace for BBC's anti-India bile to redouble and spill over from all its orifices.

P.S. Make sure you have beer and popcorn on the ready.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:25 am

Hari Seldon wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:33 am
As the fateful hour for the above approaches in 2018, kindly expect and brace for BBC's anti-India bile to redouble and spill over from all its orifices.

P.S. Make sure you have beer and popcorn on the ready.
Saars, look forward to the day when India's per capita GDP exceeds that of Al Queendom. At the rate of Mirpurization of UK, that day will be here soon.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:39 am

Triple Talaq To Be A Non-Bailable Offence With Three-Year Jail Term, Bill To Be Introduced Tomorrow (Swarajya)

Decent read.

Chalo, lez hope the above manages to dent the notoriously stable malsi vote bank a tad - enough to tilt scales in close contests at least.

Meanwhile JihadiDi in WB is organizing a 'brahmin sammelan',some 15-20k expected to participate. Link somewhere online.

She must think we yindooze are really fools (and didn't WB yindus repeatedly give her that impression?) to get taken in by empty symbolism against her very real facilitation of the islamization of WB.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:41 am

Hari Seldon wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:27 am
srikumar wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:08 am
Not wanting to prolong the exchange on the recent strike across LoC but I do wish that a low level govt. official made a statement, however brief. Uska effect kuch aur hi hota hai (as compared with an informal source).

As far as plausible deniability is concerned, it is about 10-15 years past its expiry date. We do not want plausible deniability anymore. IMHO anyway. If Pakistani fauj had any sense of honour (and not tortured serving soldiers captured at Kargil), yes a fig leaf could have been given to them. In any case, Pakistan provides India with complete deniability- (not just plausible)- the GOI announced the cross-LoC strikes after Uri, and Pakistan firmly denied it 100%.
+1 saar. Wonderful articulation.

Besides, 'informal' plausibly deniable sources, esp on soc media tend to twist, exaggerate and other distort (perhaps unintentionally) facts. No disrespect meant to Maj Arya, of course but a more general observation.
Well, each to his own.

In many such cases, the IA spokie will not comment.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:09 am

Dumal wrote:For MP, the Cons already seem to have id'ed Scindia as CM candidate months ago, and will start to pick nominees for "vulnerable" seats by mid-Jan, a good 10 months ahead of polls.
The Cons seems to have found a strategy to fight back (which in a way is good). But will Scindia too have to play at least a pro-majority religion game? Some times I get a feeling that, thanks to BJP's rise even the Congress have to at times give the Muslim vote bank a kick, and become pro-Hindutva. Shiv Bhakth till Dec 18th Rahul Ghandi are all perhaps signs of these.
In KA, Rahul will continue his temple-visiting spree, while overall he seems to have cut out much of the making fool of himself and the self-goals, making him less of Pappu!
In KA looks like the BJP leadership is giving a tough competition to Rahul in getting the "Pappu" tag. The state BJP acted too clever by half by bringing up the Mahadayi river water sharing issue, and even suggesting that they have a formula ready (with BJP ruling Goa). Siddu & Congress could neatly turn the tables back on BJP, asking them to "help the farmers" by getting the issue resolved now. Congress also managed to get lots of humble farmers who are now protesting in front of the BJP office (and not at Vidhan Soudha) asking for a speedy resolution :lol:. Classic case of shooting at one's own foot.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:12 am

Why the 'RW' disappointed in 2017 (OpIndia)

Good read. Brings out some hard hitting points. Hard to disagree anywhere. Writing could have been better initially, too theoretical.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:11 pm

Good news.
Oxomiya Jiyori 🇮🇳‏ @SouleFactsFollowing Following @SouleFacts
All accused in the #MalegaonBlast case are already out on bail and will continue to be on bail. All previous bonds and sureties are to continue according to special NIA Court. MCOCA charges against #LtColPurohit #SadhviPragya and others dropped.
Wish it'd happened faster but hey, better late than never only. Time now to track down the ATS monsters responsible for the severe torture Sadhvi and Col.Purohit underwent. Dig into who ordered what etc. No mercy.

And this below is the official NC position on Thakur and Purohit.
ANI‏Verified account @ANIFollowing Following @ANI
Everyone knows BJP govt has been pressurizing lawyers to help these people (accused) & NIA was also putting pressure for the same. Govt lawyer has stated that NIA has pressurized them to go slow (on the accused): Shakeel Ahmad, Congress on #MalegaonBlast judgement (File Pic)
#aakthoo and all that, of course. GIven that we now know (and have discounted) INC and libtard howling at Indics doing the right thing, just do the right thing anyway.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:06 pm

suryag wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:32 am
Rajni seems to have moved forward further on his political stance. Time is ripe for his entry and Dec31st will be critical for TN politics.
I doubt it will be a direct entry in dec 31st.

his play is for TN assy elections. he has no game for the coming LS elections. What is he going to tell people? give me MPs and I'll do...what????

His only play is for a change in TN state govt. He does have an argument there that if constructed right, can get the votes needed.

EPS is hanging on with a created majority by dismissing the 18 TTV MLAs. Issue is in the courts, and until they are reinstated and vote with DMK, this govt can hold to its 5 years.

TTV may have got some air from his win in RK nagar, but he is not going to pull any more MLAs from EPS-OPS. The heat is still there from agencies and that will give some pause to the folks who may be tempted to take money and jump ship.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:25 pm

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 260040.cms
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... 285981.ece

I am surprised things have progressed so far as to publish a draft NRC. I don't know if this will result in concrete action on ground of actually deporting the illegals.

This could have been possible without a BJP govt at the center and the state. Forget Ram janma bhoomi, RTE, UCC or anything else. My biggest concerns are muslim population in India. Unless we put a cap on it, the rest is useless. If the BJP govt is able to identify and deport the illegal BD muslims from assam, that alone is worth electing Modi.
A massive exercise to update the NRC is being carried out in Assam following a directive of the Supreme Court in 2005. However, the exercise started as late as 2015 under the Congress regime. It got a major push only after the BJP came to power with “illegal immigration from Bangladesh” as a poll plank.
Next stop Bengal.

Assam, Bengal and Kerala are ticking time bombs. Indian RW must focus on this demographic bomb than RJB, UCC etc. RTE comes next.
For Bengali-speaking Muslim migrants, constituting over 90% of the state's Muslims (one-third of the state's population), the NRC is a game-changer that would help rid them of the stigma of being labelled Bangladeshis or 'miyan'.
So 90% of muslims in Assam are illegal immigrants. But many are from before march 24 1971, the cut off date for granting Indian citizenship. The last time NRC was updated was in 1951. If that was the cut off, most of the muslims in Assam need to be deported. But Rajiv Gandhi signed an accord in 1985 with 1971 as the cut off date. If needed a supreme court directive in 2005 to even carry this exercise.
All Assam Students Union (AASU), which spearheaded the anti-foreigner movement in 1979-85, does not agree the NRC would be a game changer for the pre-'71 illegal migrants from Bangladesh. "Under the Assam Accord, we have accepted them as Indian citizens and so will the NRC but we have a deal with the Centre that in return, there should be a constitutional guarantee of right to rule for the indigenous people of Assam. We want that only those Bangladeshi migrants whose names appear in the 1951 NRC and their descendants be treated as indigenous Assamese," said AASU president Dipanka Kumar Nath.
Will anything concrete come out of it?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:22 am

^+1 on the malsi problem.

Sample this from tarek Fatah on twitter:
ਤਾਰੇਕ ਫਤਹVerified account @TarekFatah 9m9 minutes ago
SHOCKING: India's leading Muslim politician @AsadOwaisi in gutter; Mocks Hindus for being sexually impotent & unable to concieve more than one child. Taunts Hindus to try eating an aphrodisiac 'paan' (beatleleaf) from a Muslim's shop in Aurangabad that cures erectile dysfunction.
https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/9 ... 5226517504

Tweet above has video link of owaisi saying the above sweet aman ki asha words in public.

And yet, that turd owaisi will get feted on tv studios as a mainstreamed malsi representative voice. Watching Slurdesai's fawning over this turd was bad enough, expect more invites to follow to many more studios now.

More generally, I'd rather 'woke' Indics soft-boycott (i.e. seek alternatives to) malsi small businesses - cabbie/autowala, panwala, tailor etc. Especially if the above way of thinking and viewing us dutty kuffrs is not uncommon in the malsic community here.

Personally, I try to avoid putting moi hard-earned money into malsi hands - who knows where it'll end up. Not always feasible, however and when that happens I try to avoid the skull-capped beard types at least. Those types scare me, plain and zimble - much like roaches scare the missus (enough to scramble for a jhaadu or joota).

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