The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:52 pm

^ Agree completely. There was a huge thread on BRF about this, with links to various sources, comments by people who have read much more and done much more in this field than anyone here who spends two minutes on Google and claims to be an expert.

Please do not start this whole thing here again.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:59 pm

Trilobite wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:51 pm
Yeah, yeah, all the scientific articles you read are wrong, only the chaddi propaganda is right!

Put up your evidence or shut up! And so far evidence put up is 0.
Nice try, but I am not going to fall for it. Say the same thing you said here on BRF and they will tear you a new one.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by shravanp » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:29 pm

Chandragupta wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:59 am
Posting in full a debate with a educated Muslim of India. I responded to a post by a reasonable Hindu fellow who has interesting takes on politics on a post he made about BJP losing bypolls.

My first post - response to the reasonable Hindu fellow -



This is the quran in one hand & computer in one hand gang. On top of it, I noticed a few more things -

a. they are unabashedly Muslim first, culturally, politically & religiously
b. It has become non-PC to say that India was broken by Muslim league. You have to say both Hindus & Muslims broke this country.
c. Modi can bring 15 lakhs back to every account, install a gold plated toilet in Muslim homes & make rivers of milk & honey flow but Muslims will continue to hate him
I feel strongly that it's not a peacefool, but some pseudo-secularist in disguise of a peacefool who put up these arguments. Muslims won't argue to that length as they would turn abusive instantaneously when they see that they are losing argument.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:50 pm

Close to 5,000 FCRA registrations have been cancelled since April 1, 2017,"

Rijiju said one time opportunity to upload pending annual returns from 2010-11 onwards without depositing any penalty was provided to all the defaulting NGOs from May 14, 2017 to June 15, 2017.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:02 pm

hanumadu wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:59 pm
Trilobite wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:51 pm
Yeah, yeah, all the scientific articles you read are wrong, only the chaddi propaganda is right!

Put up your evidence or shut up! And so far evidence put up is 0.
Nice try, but I am not going to fall for it. Say the same thing you said here on BRF and they will tear you a new one.
Does not matter which forum you are talking about, the OIT wallahs, which I suspect are all chaddi types, have no evidence to offer whatsoever.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by kittigadu » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:47 pm

This forum would be better served if the two Pisachas polluting all threads are banned.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rudradev » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:00 pm

Trilobite wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:27 am
@crams man, let me ask you the same question.

Contract worth Rs 22,000 crore which was originally supposed to go the public sector HAL which has 70 years worth of experience building planes goes to Anil Ambani's company in a completely non-transparent manner when his company has 0 experience of building planes, does this sounds like corruption to you or not?
I love this argument.

Why build toilets? After all most of the SDRE Indian public has 0 experience with indoor plumbing.

Surely Swachh Bharat must be riddled with corruption. Surely Adani Commodes and Ambani Pipelayers are benefiting in some non-transparent manner.

The persistence of public urination/defecation is a small price to pay for Congress-style transparency and scandal-free governance. :rotfl:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:06 am

Indrad wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:13 am
cos we are looking for solution not rabble rousing..Modi is corrupt ..cos Reliance cos defence deal..cos Rafale deal...cos Adani is Rafale..

Why are you shying to suggest an alternative for Modi? What is your solution? Who should be PM? Is it that difficult??
Please do not shift goal post with '' Iam asking Q on corruption'' last time a CM from Delhi was asking similar Q now asking for forgiveness so that he is not jailed.

Why do you think there is no alternative? Even the Corner Rat Catcher Party is better alternative.

Especially after the passage of arguably the most abhorring law which allows foreign donations to political parties and retrospectively forbids all RTI retrospectively going back to 1976!

This law makes it possible for East India Company to rule India again by proxy, and won't even know!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:20 am

please cut out the OT and do not respond to baits.

rule of thumb - don't waste time on trolls. Put them on ignore list and move on and post something useful

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Kabir » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:25 am

Gentlemen grow up, lets not make this look like an AAP facebook page with 'Pakistan did not kill my father' or 'My father did not name me after a pesticide' (though hilarious :D ) type of posts.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:40 am

Rudradev wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:00 pm
Trilobite wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:27 am
@crams man, let me ask you the same question.

Contract worth Rs 22,000 crore which was originally supposed to go the public sector HAL which has 70 years worth of experience building planes goes to Anil Ambani's company in a completely non-transparent manner when his company has 0 experience of building planes, does this sounds like corruption to you or not?
I love this argument.

Why build toilets? After all most of the SDRE Indian public has 0 experience with indoor plumbing.

Surely Swachh Bharat must be riddled with corruption. Surely Adani Commodes and Ambani Pipelayers are benefiting in some non-transparent manner.

The persistence of public urination/defecation is a small price to pay for Congress-style transparency and scandal-free governance. :rotfl:
By all means build toilet but do also make provision for water too, otherwise without accessible water to go with the toilet, toilet alone will be completely useless. Anyway strawman arguments.

But I would seriously like you hear you comment on the recently passed foreign contribution to political parties with no provision of RTI, effective retroactively dating back to 1976.

Justifying this will require some very skillful spinning, let us see if you are upto the task! If anybody can do it, you can definitely do it!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:22 am

shravanp wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:29 pm
Chandragupta wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:59 am
Posting in full a debate with a educated Muslim of India. I responded to a post by a reasonable Hindu fellow who has interesting takes on politics on a post he made about BJP losing bypolls.

My first post - response to the reasonable Hindu fellow -



This is the quran in one hand & computer in one hand gang. On top of it, I noticed a few more things -

a. they are unabashedly Muslim first, culturally, politically & religiously
b. It has become non-PC to say that India was broken by Muslim league. You have to say both Hindus & Muslims broke this country.
c. Modi can bring 15 lakhs back to every account, install a gold plated toilet in Muslim homes & make rivers of milk & honey flow but Muslims will continue to hate him
I feel strongly that it's not a peacefool, but some pseudo-secularist in disguise of a peacefool who put up these arguments. Muslims won't argue to that length as they would turn abusive instantaneously when they see that they are losing argument.
No saar, this was a peaceful only. This discussion is off Facebook. Though I think he is a Shia but I can't be 100% sure.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:22 am

shravanp wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:29 pm
Chandragupta wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:59 am
Posting in full a debate with a educated Muslim of India. I responded to a post by a reasonable Hindu fellow who has interesting takes on politics on a post he made about BJP losing bypolls.

My first post - response to the reasonable Hindu fellow -



This is the quran in one hand & computer in one hand gang. On top of it, I noticed a few more things -

a. they are unabashedly Muslim first, culturally, politically & religiously
b. It has become non-PC to say that India was broken by Muslim league. You have to say both Hindus & Muslims broke this country.
c. Modi can bring 15 lakhs back to every account, install a gold plated toilet in Muslim homes & make rivers of milk & honey flow but Muslims will continue to hate him
I feel strongly that it's not a peacefool, but some pseudo-secularist in disguise of a peacefool who put up these arguments. Muslims won't argue to that length as they would turn abusive instantaneously when they see that they are losing argument.
No saar, this was a peaceful only. This discussion is off Facebook. Though I think he is a Shia but I can't be 100% sure.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by manju » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:11 am

kittigadu wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:47 pm
This forum would be better served if the two Pisachas polluting all threads are banned.
agree! why are we allowing these people to make this place their paikhana (pakistan)? The quality of discussion has gone down.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:59 am

Weird commie insect Trilobite and Chinese agent Rahul the Mehta,
I get why your panties are in a knot on the anonymity clauses in Electoral bonds and FCRA funding.

Anonymity in political funding is a foremost concern so as to protect donors in situations where someone with a murderous ideology like your commie/congie ilk come to power.Your ilk would immediately seek to witchhunt the companies/individuals that choose the official funding route to fund PIF/BJP in elections.

Since PIF like BJP is not adept(nor does it plan to become adept) like BIF in using the unoffical hawala /crony MNC funding channels in the vice grip of Congi-ISI-Al'CIAda networks managed by gangs like Dawood from Dubai or Chidu from Malaysia or Mauritius ,i see this creation of official channel for overseas election funding a good turn for PIF where NRI's PIO's and the legitimately lobbying MNCs can try to influence governments and govt policy.

When it comes to former,there are many PIO's/NRI's raring to fund the PIF parties like BJP in their karmabhoomi but are dissuaded by lack of official channels.Many PIO's / NRI's are often less dhimmi (since they have faced the stark reality of western/abrahamic culture) and are concerned about the longterm direction of Bharat.This is unlike most indian voters who have hitherto tended to vote on local issues with little longterm vision for the nation (this too will change as electioneering is being turned more and more presidential in style by NaMo).
Anyway in time voting rights will also be afforded to NRI's PIO's so that they may regularly vote from overseas in Indian elections - in this light their funding the indian elections from overseas is a nonissue.
A good example is OFBJP (a collection of bharateeya volunteers mainly from US) in 2014 GE.They have played a key role in supporting of NaMo in his PMship campaign beginning since the time he challenged the congi b-team D4 ruling the roost in BJP back in 2013.

Coming to the latter aspect of normal MNCs using these newly created official funding channels for sake of legitimate lobbying of govt policy as is the norm in almost all major democracies (in contrast to the crony MNCs funding that congies avail regularly through Hawala or P-notes and such):

MNC's are the key to manufacturing growth and job creation in India (and this window is also closing fast).Most MNCs unlike the crony ones have a stake in supporting economic growth centric policies compared to policies of mass dole funneled into corruption as seen in the schemes thunk up by the Commie-socialist cabal as in Chornia's NAC. There are tens of thousands of MNC's in the world. India has in the past got out of the stangle hold of crony socialist robbers barons like BAJAJ,HINDUJA etc and their monopolizing in automobile sector only when the Korean and Japanese MNC's entered india in a bigway since the 90s.The radical development of the industrial sector in those states since then is proof enough that MNC's have a positive influence on the lives of people if the policy governing their activities is adeptly controlled by govts in power.

Commie wierd insect Trilobite uses the example of east india company and equates it to the threat posed by MNC's but his is a cretinous comparison between a monopolistic colonizer out to capture political power and overtake economy and equating them to the competition amongst diverse MNC's in Indian economy for national benefit which any govt worth its salt must foster.
Accordingly monopolistic MNC's often based out of US tend to be bad because of their monopoly in the strategic areas often stamping out competition(Coke/Pepsi) and the ability to do mass psyops campaigns against democratic govts and thus blackmail them(google/facebook/twitter).Indian govt should only tighten the controls on them as EU does regularly.

However in contrast take an example of MNC's in non strategic but critical infrastructure sector i.e earth moving/mining MNC's like Hitatchi,JCB,Komatsu,CAT etc.They on being allowed into indian market and eventually prodded by govt policy to manufacture their machines (rather than assembling them) in local facilities will obviously do tremendous good to Indian economy.So these are necessary MNCs of the normal variety.
No wonder it takes the decrepit Chinese agent Rahul the mehta who is still nostalgic for bullock cart rides to his school back in the socialist robber baron economy days of Indira to complain that sky is falling down because such normal MNC's(as opposed to crony monopolistic ones) have entered India in this globalized age.

Indian govts policy should be leverage the stark diversity in these normal MNC's (Japanese,Korean,Chinese,European,American etc) to achieve a fine balance which promotes national interests and economic growth.
Their capital investment and participation is key to manufacturing to takeoff and even for funding the infra-projects in much of India. Example japanese MNC's entering via JICA funding in high speed rail sector of India.

This is far better than the cosy relationship in bed between British era stooges and congies propagating sikualrism,socialism in media and academia(TISS,Jindal school as adjuncts to JNU) on one hand, and on the other hand using their crony capitalism they had a free run to monopolize economic sectors under state sanction going on since the socialist robber baron economy started by Nehru with his british era chums like TATAs,Birlas,Bajaj,Godrej so on.
Further instead of post congress govts getting blackmailed by these socialist robber barons as seen in the coalition era 90s this new scenario is better.
A situation where the maneuvering space for PIF govts is widened through the participation of MNC's in the electioneering process and the lobbying it legitimately entails supporting the constituent political parties in elections for favorable economic policies is a normal thing in the end in all major modern democracies.

No wonder that actual crony MNC stooges opposed to such democratisation of political economy are opposing it in BIF media funded by foreign NGO's like
Scroll.in,,Wire.in,Huffingtonpost etc and the whole network of the BIF presstitutes are bellyaching on govt allowing of foreign funding during elections
They are all terrified that the crony MNC/hawala monies hitherto surreptitiously channeled to these presstitutes to influence govt policy will be drying up.
By granting anonymity, the government wants to help donors who "fear consequences," Jaitley said, reminding other Parliamentarians that many political donors have been "reluctant" to donate because of fear of disclosing their identities and claimed that is the main reason why even cheque donations haven't worked.

The new rules would allow companies as well as other donors -- via the proposed 'electoral bonds' -- to donate freely. He has also openly challenged the opposition by saying they could choose to continue to take contributions via just cheque and see how many people would be willing to donate.

"We were restricting the constituency of donors," he said, stressing that donor restrictions only work to increase the temptation for them to make cash contributions, rather than make an "official payment." {here Jetli is alluding to the blackmoney based funding via Hawala route which is how congress funds its elections }
Anyway i dont expect either the weird commie insect Trilobite or the Chinese agent Rahul the Mehta to acknowledge such nuanced logic(suited for a closed group) and fully expect them to misquote my post or to put up strawman counters (But i post it here in BGR FWIW).
Their record as mere puppets of foreign interests in spheres of accountability and governance has been quite clear given their consistent support to the lokpal in its most malicious form - the same Lokpal which surreptitiously allowed NGO's and activists(code word for foreign funded commie minions) to achieve an official foothold in the already corrupt judicial process - their loud bellyaching on this issue in concert with their ilk in scroll,wire,quint etc is only to be expected.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Shandilya » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:16 am

Spoke with couple of random Rajashthani migrants in Gujarat, each had settled locally decades ago and have ties (home, farm, and extended family) just across the border; currently doing odd jobs security, driver, taxi. Heard only high praise for Modi sarkar achievements in infrastructure, poverty eradication economics, corruption mukti, ghostbusting aadhar/pan cards. Back in the day if a cycle was spotted then whole village would come to have a dekho at it, today due to remittance not a house is without concrete walls and roof, farming is now a leisurely by-activity, every other house has a car. Sometimes milk is all sold out and not available to make a cup of tea, bakra and chicken more expensive than in metro city Ahmadabad.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:42 am

Great idea by harebrained Javdekar- who is without doubt the biggest clown BJP could have found in their party.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/hom ... 389305.cms

How does these ideas get passed by NaMo?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:52 am

members are requested to avoid trolls. one of them called BRF chaddi types yet has no other place to write than a chaddi off shoot forum.
In Armed Forces Medical College it was written all over toilets: Kill the bastard by ignoring.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:19 am

manju wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:11 am
kittigadu wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:47 pm
This forum would be better served if the two Pisachas polluting all threads are banned.
agree! why are we allowing these people to make this place their paikhana (pakistan)? The quality of discussion has gone down.
Manju , why dont you name the names?
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I post hardly 5-7 posts a week, one post per day on average. and seldom abuse anyone unless a person repeatedly abuses me. And as per you, I should be banned. And as per you, people like Lilo (who repeatedly call me chinese agent and throw abuses at those who expose defunctness of Modiji etc) are examplus of shining postors

(aside : In the abuses that go between Trilobite and Lilo, it is Lilu who had started these abuses first.

And Lilo first called me chinese agent before I called her usuk-elitemen-agent. And for several days, I only complained to admins and didnt do any name calling, Admins decided to remain silent. And so I insulted Lilo back.)

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Lilo wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:59 am
Weird commie insect Trilobite and Chinese agent Rahul the Mehta,
I get why your panties are in a knot on the anonymity clauses in Electoral bonds and FCRA funding.

Anonymity in political funding is a foremost concern so as to protect donors in situations where someone with a murderous ideology like your commie/congie ilk come to power.Your ilk would immediately seek to witchhunt the companies/individuals that choose the official funding route to fund PIF/BJP in elections.

Since PIF like BJP is not adept(nor does it plan to become adept) like BIF in using the unoffical hawala /crony MNC funding channels in the vice grip of Congi-ISI-Al'CIAda networks managed by gangs like Dawood from Dubai or Chidu from Malaysia or Mauritius ,i see this creation of official channel for overseas election funding a good turn for PIF where NRI's PIO's and the legitimately lobbying MNCs can try to influence governments and govt policy.

When it comes to former,there are many PIO's/NRI's raring to fund the PIF parties like BJP in their karmabhoomi but are dissuaded by lack of official channels....

A good example is OFBJP (a collection of bharateeya volunteers mainly from US) in 2014 GE.They have played a key role in supporting of NaMo in his PMship campaign beginning since the time he challenged the congi b-team D4 ruling the roost in BJP back in 2013.
I am NOT against INDIVIDUALS citizens or PIOs or OCIs or NRIs giving funds to any political party. So as expect, an MNC-agent and RSS-workers will erect a strawman and knock it down !! As per anonymity --- fine , I dont oppose it. But Modiji's law also allowed 100% foreign citizens and foreign companies to contribute to Indian political parties and that too in anonymous way. And that proves motives of people who brought this new law.
MNC-agent Lilo says : ... Coming to the latter aspect of normal MNCs using these newly created official funding channels for sake of legitimate lobbying of govt policy as is the norm in almost all major democracies (in contrast to the crony MNCs funding that congies avail regularly through Hawala or P-notes and such):

MNC's are the key to manufacturing growth and job creation in India (and this window is also closing fast).Most MNCs unlike the crony ones have a stake in supporting economic growth centric policies compared to policies of mass dole funneled into corruption as seen in the schemes thunk up by the Commie-socialist cabal as in Chornia's NAC. There are tens of thousands of MNC's in the world. India has in the past got out of the stangle hold of crony socialist robbers barons like BAJAJ,HINDUJA etc and their monopolizing in automobile sector only when the Korean and Japanese MNC's entered india in a bigway since the 90s.The radical development of the industrial sector in those states since then is proof enough that MNC's have a positive influence on the lives of people if the policy governing their activities is adeptly controlled by govts in power.
MNCs will create jobs in India? So lets handover India to MNC-owners !!!

All this is nonsense. REAL jobs that increase SKILL level of Indians will be created when Indian factory owners are able to work as inefficienctly as US or at least China. And thats why TRUE nationalists like us are working to bring USA like laws in India so that factory owners of India can work with low inefficiency. And traitors like you and RSS-workers are hailing usuk-elitemen or MNCs !! Sick to such people posing as bharat "rakshak" . You are only an usuk-elitemen-rakshak.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by JohnTitor » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:46 am

On this instance I think Mr. Mehta may be right.

Anonymity is fine if it is an Indian donor. Foreign funds are generally not allowed to be part of party donations in many democracies. Makes no sense that a foreign person or company does Nate's to an Indian party unless they have an interest in that party winning. In fact, in the US foreign funds are prohibited- anonymous or otherwise

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by la.khan » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:10 am

Chandragupta wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:22 am
shravanp wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:29 pm
I feel strongly that it's not a peacefool, but some pseudo-secularist in disguise of a peacefool who put up these arguments. Muslims won't argue to that length as they would turn abusive instantaneously when they see that they are losing argument.
No saar, this was a peaceful only. This discussion is off Facebook. Though I think he is a Shia but I can't be 100% sure.
CG, that exchange you posted was illuminating how IMs think. While your views were cogent & factual, the dude was, at best, incoherent. His anger/frustration can seen in his short sentences. He seem to be getting his opinions from fiberals/psuedo secular elites, regurgitating the same gibberish. This was an educated one, I believe; I dread to think how the unwashed masses are :facepalm:

For GE2019, we have our task cut out. Us Dharmics have to get together, stand shoulder to shoulder, and face the enemy. It is not the maha-thug-bandhan that worries me, it is the bickering amongst the RWs/dharmics (this very forum witnesses it currently) that gets my nerves :( :shock: :cry:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:34 am

JohnTitor wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:46 am
On this instance I think Mr. Mehta may be right.

Anonymity is fine if it is an Indian donor. Foreign funds are generally not allowed to be part of party donations in many democracies. Makes no sense that a foreign person or company does Nate's to an Indian party unless they have an interest in that party winning. In fact, in the US foreign funds are prohibited- anonymous or otherwise
Germany
Italy
Spain
New Zealand
Australia
Netherlands
Austria
switzerland
Norway
Denmark
South Africa
Srilanka
Malaysia
Thailand

Are some of the democracies which allow donations by foreign interests to political parties or candidates

I dont understand why we need to emulate US here which is an exceptional superpower which has its own complex.

Instead of getting political finance from murky interests surreptitiously via blackmoney routes controlled by dawood-ISI-Al'CIADa as has been the case in india hitherto, this official route is better even as a stopgap.

Anyway i think this anonymity for corporate interests(foreign or local) will stay in place atleast until the state begins to finance elections.India is one of the last countries yet to start public financing of elections.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:47 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:19 am
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MNCs will create jobs in India? So lets handover India to MNC-owners !!!

All this is nonsense. REAL jobs that increase SKILL level of Indians will be created when Indian factory owners are able to work as inefficienctly as US or at least China. And thats why TRUE nationalists like us are working to bring USA like laws in India so that factory owners of India can work with low inefficiency. And traitors like you and RSS-workers are hailing usuk-elitemen or MNCs !! Sick to such people posing as bharat "rakshak" . You are only an usuk-elitemen-rakshak.
Chinese agent Rahul the mehta, you demonize GST at every step despite it being the biggest reform since decades in improving the economic efficiency and enables indian firms to finally compete with chinese companies , yet you claim that your interest is in somehow increasing the efficiency of Indian firms. I suggest you should get yourself a Janus faced party symbol when you again contest for elections.

BTW is it only me or is it so that since past many posts on topics raised by you,you have been carefully skirting from responding to the main arguments given in response.
For example on the CIL issue while labelling BJP/RSS as MNC agents you have neatly tip toed around the question of the 16 billion USD hole CIL is putting per annum through in India's forex account and yet somehow you strut around with bravado. Is the CIL issue dead already for you ? Why did you weasel away from it when i started raising the billions of dollars of coal, India is annually forced to import due to CIL's ineptitude.
MehtaRahulC wrote:Typical rss-worker rambling. Talk about problem. Never talk about solution. Throw buzzwods like jobs, "make in India", and you forgot "vishvaguru" and "akhand bharat". And call anyone who exposed defunctness of Modiji as foreign agent !!!....
And when finally, they have grabbed position and have to give solution --- only "solution" they give is -- handover economy to usuk-elitemen and rationalize it !!!
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In privatization of coal, no where has Modiji put a condition that private mining company must be 100% owned by Indian citizens. IOW, Modiji and rss-workers are openly allowing usuk-elitemen to defacto own coal mines in India. And like true rss-worker, you ignored Mauritius treaty which makes defact income tax rate on companies of usuk-elitemen only 7.5% or less.
I also gave a list of reasons related to your opposition to GST and correctly deduced that you must be a Chinese agent.Your response for that was below , many tomorrows passed but it seems you are still tongue tied when it comes to giving a logical response hain? I wonder why this careful silence when faced with tough questions while flailing like a fish on the shore on useless personal remarks against me.
MehtaRahulC wrote:(!) Anti-RM element are frothing when I expose their defunctness and defunctness of Modiji and corruption of RSS-workers
See how Lilo is trembling and squealing and running like headless chicken

I will write tomorow in GST thread why RSS-workers like Lilo insist of GST, eWayBill and oppose wealth tax. Main reason is --- wealth tax will reduce strength of land hoarders such as Missionaries.
BTW why did you get so flustered when i merely "proposed" that BRFites ask RBI to investigate your crypto currency holdings , arent you a political candidate contesting elections regularly from Ahmadabad ?

Then instead of jumping up and down on my mere proposal answer my question on your crypto currency assets - if you had any measure of honesty you would have yourself specified the value of your crypto currency holdings in the affidavit you submitted in the just concluded gujarat elections, the fact that you didnt(i saw it) means i have the right to ask you the question.You dont have the right to outrage on my asking this question.

Also what i dont get is that since you oppose India's economic sovereignty by opposing the creation of a common market as per the goal enshrined in the constitution(Art 301) since 1950.
Then how could you have signed off on below oath while submitting your candidature to election commission ?
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You clearly dont owe allegiance to the Constitution of India(Art 301) mandating for the creation of an common national market , as you completely oppose GST which precisely achieves the common market goal.Then were you just bluffing when you gave an oath that you will abide by and uphold the Constitution in the declaration submitted with your election papers?

Speaking of illegitimate wealth and corruption in public sphere and lack of ethical conduct,
Why were you bragging about your friends corruption in your below quoted post ?
MehtaRahulC wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:35 am
(3) NA/NR joining RSS ----- congress/rss/aap are one and same

A friend of mine in Rajsthan told me his own personal experience. In july-2014, he decided to start a manufacturing plant for water coolers near Bhilwara. He had his own small land. He found that he would need NoC from Sarpanch, because the land he owned was agricultural land. The cost of land at commercial rate was Rs 300,000 only. But Sarpanch asked for a bribe of Rs 500,000 to give NA/NoC !! My friend was willing to give Rs 30000 bribe, but Sarpanch said "see, once you start industry, you will earn Rs 50 lakhs every year. So bribe I am asking i.e. Rs 5 lakhs is peanuts". The Sarpanch belonged to RSS = BJP. (congress /aap sarpanch would do the same). So my friend went to State Govt and got Noc by giving bribe of Rs 50000 because he had contacts with some IAS. But he ended up wasting 3 years and meanwhile his investors had moved to someone else. But still he started the factory somehow. So Sarpanch unleashed his criminals to ruin his setup. So my friend campaigned in favor of a leader against that Sarpanch, and got that Sarpanch defeated in the election. After wasting 3.5 years and money, he doesnt want to do any industry anymore and is selling water purifiers of a US company.

So congress or rss or aap --- all stories of Modiji or SoGa or ArKe tell -- that they want to promote industries are nonsense. Their own congress/rss/aap sarpanch , ministers, IAS etc ask for bribes left, right and center and for approvals and other services.
Rahul the Mehta,
Inducement of a public official by offering a bribe is a criminal offence under PCA act.
I dont know who your friend is and how much he was influenced by your ethical makeup but how can you proudly write about your friends corruption in getting an NoC via corrupt means by bribing an IAS officer.
Are all your friends like this? You speak of other friends in Delhi and else where and their glowing claims about AAP's "good work" in schools and hospitals , how can we be sure that they are not praising AAP as it condones their corruption ?
Anyway knowing about this crime did you report to the police on how the Sarpanch (apparently an RSS/BJP guy by your corrupt friends account) demanded bribe or atleast did you report on your corrupt friend's dealings in securing an NOC by bribing via a corrupt IAS officer ?

Despite your long ramblings on need for "better" laws you cannot even uphold a key law related to corruption(i.e PCA) by reporting corruption promptly to vigilance agencies as soon as you came across the details. What worth are law drafts when you cannot even abide by such basic ethical conduct expected of a candidate regularly contesting for elections?
As long as hypocrites like you abound in india what ever be the number of lawdrafts you circulate nothing will come out them even if they become laws.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:04 am

Mary Kom NGO, Sonia-led trust among 42 bodies under FCRA lens
Many of the "secular & progressive" news papers (like the Chinese Hindu) have only highlighted Mary Kom's NGO getting investigated.

The success rate of the Lingayath-Veerashaiva minority tag seems to be a bit "iffy" for the Congress. But I feel a lot depends on how BJP handles this issue. One thing I feel the BJP should do is to raise up the "reservation" bogey-man. Start talking about them being given higher reservation percentage from the existing minority quota. The "religion of love" & "religion of peace" champs would immediately raise their war cry.
UPA govt refused religion tag to Veerashaiva-Lingayat in 2013 (Can't the BJP ask the Congress "high command" on what their latest thoughts are?)
BJP may give 'anti-Hindu' spin to Congress googly on Lingayat issue (The fact that Lingayaths do not get any practical benefit; like reservation has been brought up).

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by fanne » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:51 am

For the RW - Who think their cause, intelligence, dedication, solution is better than next RW (or perhaps Modi/Shah)


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Swamy at it again. Irrespective of how outdated this article is, Swamy’s reaction shows what we have been saying.

He actually wants to hit at @NarendraModi & @AmitShah but uses @ArunJaitley as the bogey.

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This shows clearly why Swamy’s people have been saying things against @NarendraModi. Their Boss has issues with him and Amit Shah. He has issues with BJP. He wants to be next PM. So all his brain-washed fellows are saying things against BJP & Modi. All is becoming clear now.

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Now you’ll understand better why these people ignore work done by Modi ji for Hindus and keep harping on “core issues”, which are bound to take time.
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ये स्वामी जी, 24 घण्टे खुद के ही महिमामंडन में लगे रहते हैं, सरकार के काम को भी श्रेय लेते हैं खुद

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I am just waiting for his announcement of forming a new Hindu party...before 2019 promising to resolve all the core issues of Hindus...AS/Togadia etc already there

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