The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:32 pm

Indrad wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:20 pm

2. And if time permits cite cases of RSS members involved in corruption like chara ghotala etc.
What is your opinion about Rafale deal? Particularly about the completely opaque manner in which the deal was changed? Who changed the deal? Were the experts consulted? Recall that original deal had taken years of deliberation by experts and negotiations.

How did Anil Ambani firm land a plum contract in the revised deal in a completely opaque manner, which was in the original contract supposed to go to HAL which has 70 years worth of experience in making planes and Ambani has 0 experience?

Not to mention the 3 fold increase in the price of the planes?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by shyamsp » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:17 pm

shyamsp wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:31 pm
hanumadu wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:58 am
Of the three terms CBN became CM, the first one was after back stabbing NTR, the other two times was in coalition with BJP.
If CBN is talking against Pawan Kalyan means PK Is not going with CBN either. He may go with either YSRCongress or BJP.
Idea that somehow BJP mattered in AP is devoid of any political knowledge and reality. It was INC till 1983, then it was TDP vs INC till 2014, now it is TDP vs YCP. All other things and actors are side factors. BJP is 0 now so is Congress since 2014. If PK projects himself as Kapu leader, PK is somewhat factor for YCP to play into breaking Kapu votebank for TDP. Any one that openly joins with BJP are going to lose as that pushes voters towards TDP.

Besides if you can understand, non-NDA TDP is good for BJP at national level and it is the reason for breakup.
This is in brutally-honest interview in Telugu with Sabbam Hari, Ex-MP from Congress. He touches many items with respect to political games in AP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeT50KYN63o

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:52 pm

@Trilobite

a far superior discussion on Rafale deal is on BRF: kindly shoot your enquiries there. Here is brick by brick account of deal in this article which suggests no corruption. https://swarajyamag.com/defence/why-the ... afale-deal
When asked why the government is not disclosing the purchase price details, MoD officials revealed that the IGA signed on 23 September 2016 has a non-disclosure clause, which has been drafted in accordance with the provisions of the ‘Security Agreement’ signed by the UPA government with France on 25 January 2008.
The IGA is valid for 50 years from the date of signing i.e. till 22 September 2066.
Rubbishing all such claims and calling them “grossly incorrect” the officials said that firstly, the tender was opened on 04 November 2011 and not on 12 December 2012. Secondly, the MMRCA Contracts Negotiation Committee (CNC) had determined the per flyway Rafale price at around 102 million Euros.

If escalation factor is added between 2012 and 2016 price, the per aircraft price becomes around 107 Million Euros. This, they said, is around 16 per cent costlier as compared to the per aircraft price in the 36 Rafale contract, 92 Million Euros. “The price comparison is on apple to apple bases in terms of deliverables,” an official said.

They added that the CNC constituted to negotiate 36 Rafale IGA, had clearly brought out in its report that the price finalised for the 36 Rafale procurement is better than the price fixed in both Egypt as well as Qatar deals.

“Egypt bought 24 aircrafts for Euros 5.2 billion. For same number of aircrafts, Qatar Air Force has paid Euros 6.3 billion. Clearly both the countries have a price which is much higher than India,” he added.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:22 pm

vinod wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:01 pm
One bypoll and suddenly BJP and RSS are all in pocket of all anti-nationals and other scums! All these theories are meant to demoralize the common peoples faith in them. It's all bullshit but I guess MSM will give it a run and see how it affects. If they can just enough people to believe this, then less turnout and a result like gorakhpur is very much possible. Now, BJP and RSS know their hand. BJP and RSS have to get their game really up if they have to counter this propaganda before it gets hold.
Agree with you at a high level, namely, one shouldn't get into the kind of hysteria opposition thugbandhan has gotten into simply based on bypoll results. But that said, as a BJP supporter, I do take notice of the fact that there have been too many losses of late: Rajasthan, MP, and now UP. Couple that with the Gujarat close finish, and one does sense a certain anti-incumbency trend if not anti-BJP trend. Also the opposition thugbandhan strategy of playing on Hindu faultlines as a counter to Hinduthva is showing some traction.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:07 am

Indrad wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:52 pm
@Trilobite

a far superior discussion on Rafale deal is on BRF: kindly shoot your enquiries there. Here is brick by brick account of deal in this article which suggests no corruption. https://swarajyamag.com/defence/why-the ... afale-deal

Thanks for the reference link but I do not particularly consider Swarajyamag a useful source because of its obvious agenda. Also, other than Jaggi the journalistic standard is poor too.

In any case the article you refer to fails to address the all important question that how in the world Anil Ambani' company landed a contract of Rs 22,000 crore which was originally supposed to go to public sector company HAL which has 70 years worth of experience in building planes compared to Ambani's company who has 0 experience?

I was interested in knowing your opinion on this part of the deal, is this corruption or not ?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:29 am

Trilobite, I know you ModiJi and BJP haters would like to cast ModiJi and Co as corrpt or worse than your Pappu and his slaves, but looking for any corruption angle to nail ModiJi, ether through some straw-man arguments over Rafale deal or whatever else is like looking for signs of extra-terrestrial life.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:01 am

Gus wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:10 pm
vikas ..that's the trick isn't it?

they know they will laughed at if they mention rahul kejri yechuri etc. none of them are even cabinet minister material, forget about PM.

but they hate modi. so they only thing they can do is to keep saying modi this modi that, but never mention what's the alternate.
Gus mama, shall we once try to focus on yindoo and dharmic issues rather than focus on BJP winning elections? Even level headed person like you doesn't seem to get it that there are certain cancers that need to be addressed NOW. The 10 years of previous govt has endangered the yindus in so many ways I need not repeat those for someone like you. Still even old time posters are not touching upon them even when others point out to step motherly treatment given to such issues by NM. NM may be PM for next 10 years at the most, but indic civilization has to survive and exist much beyond that. 50 years from now, Indics should live in yindustan without the threat of getting beheaded, kidnapped and raped, temples taken over by 'others' etc etc etc etc. Just building toilets, opening bank accounts, providing gas and electricity connection will not address the above issues.
Let's worry about that part as well. For that we NEED to question the PRESENT govt what steps they are taking to address them.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:27 am

@crams man, let me ask you the same question.

Contract worth Rs 22,000 crore which was originally supposed to go the public sector HAL which has 70 years worth of experience building planes goes to Anil Ambani's company in a completely non-transparent manner when his company has 0 experience of building planes, does this sounds like corruption to you or not?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:32 am

Trilobite wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:32 pm
Indrad wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:20 pm

2. And if time permits cite cases of RSS members involved in corruption like chara ghotala etc.
What is your opinion about Rafale deal? Particularly about the completely opaque manner in which the deal was changed? Who changed the deal? Were the experts consulted? Recall that original deal had taken years of deliberation by experts and negotiations.

How did Anil Ambani firm land a plum contract in the revised deal in a completely opaque manner, which was in the original contract supposed to go to HAL which has 70 years worth of experience in making planes and Ambani has 0 experience?

Not to mention the 3 fold increase in the price of the planes?
Reliance Defence is actually Pipaviv Defence which had several years of experience in defence manufacturing and which Ambani bought. Now go troll somewhere else.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:56 am

RSS has been in power in Gujarat State Govt since 1996. And during these 22 years, RSS was also in central govt for 6 + 4 = 10 years. And 22 years later,illegal liquor sale, corruption in policemen, corruption in education etc is same as congress states. And yet some people here want "evidences" that RSS-workers take bribes !!
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I have put all evidences of rampant corruption in congress/rss/aap workers on my SM profile. But putting links to SM posts is a crime on BRF because it is considers as blog pimping. So I cant post links here
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Jammu RSS-workers were silent between 2011 -2014 when Rohingye started coming bit by bit. And after may-2014, silence has increased. And even after jun-2014, more Rohingye have come into Jammu. RSS-workers have NOT even tweeted @PmoIndia to print a law to stop/expel Rohingye and Bangladeshis. This is ONLY because Rohingye are giving bribes to RSS-workers. No dog will remain silent unless and until his mouth is full. Rohingye bribe congress/pdp/NC/aap/CPI etc as well. And they also bribe judges to ensure that cases go on and on and on.

Reality is that Fundamental Right to settle anywhere in India is ONLY for citizens and NOT for immigrants and certainly not for illegal immigrant. And even FR to settle in Jammu is NOT available to anyone in India except JK-resident. Despite this, Central Govt and JK Govt (which is run by RSS/PDP) are dilly dallying expulsion of Rohingye from Jammu. Enough human right nonsense. Pls take this human rights nonsense to someone else. I know when money is talking.

All RSS-workers' drama of helping flood victims is similar to Missionaries feeding poor and giving medicine to poor. But behind all this feeding and medicine giving, we know their real aims. Same is for RSS-workers.
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A pamhplet ciculating in Gujarat says "In Delhi 400 units of electricity costs Rs 1100 while in Gujarat it costs rs 2700 ".

Along with that, numerous pamphlets on how education in Delhi govt schools IMPROVED after AAP.

My friends in Delhi also confimed that Delhi govt schools are now in better shape.

This shows the extent to which RSS-leaders and RSS-workers are corrupt. AAP is hopelessly corrupt and anti-national. But they improved govt schools. While RSS which was running Delhi state govt from jun-2014 to feb-2015 did NOT improve Delhi govt schools and only focused on bribe collection.

Or, can YOU guys explain why RSS-workers did NOT improve Delhi Govt schools between jun-2014 and feb-2015?

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RSS-leader and Central Govt Minister Dr Harshvardhan says that Stephen Hawkings had said that Vedes have superior information than Einstien's E = mc^2 . Pls google more on "Harshvardhan Hawkings" for more humor.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:06 am

Karthik wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:01 am
Gus wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:10 pm
vikas ..that's the trick isn't it?

they know they will laughed at if they mention rahul kejri yechuri etc. none of them are even cabinet minister material, forget about PM.

but they hate modi. so they only thing they can do is to keep saying modi this modi that, but never mention what's the alternate.
Gus mama, shall we once try to focus on yindoo and dharmic issues rather than focus on BJP winning elections? Even level headed person like you doesn't seem to get it that there are certain cancers that need to be addressed NOW. The 10 years of previous govt has endangered the yindus in so many ways I need not repeat those for someone like you. Still even old time posters are not touching upon them even when others point out to step motherly treatment given to such issues by NM. NM may be PM for next 10 years at the most, but indic civilization has to survive and exist much beyond that. 50 years from now, Indics should live in yindustan without the threat of getting beheaded, kidnapped and raped, temples taken over by 'others' etc etc etc etc. Just building toilets, opening bank accounts, providing gas and electricity connection will not address the above issues.
Let's worry about that part as well. For that we NEED to question the PRESENT govt what steps they are taking to address them.
You regularly post politically in politics thread denigrating the NaMo/BJP/RSS and are now hypocritically counselling people here to focus on Dharmic or Yindoo issues rather than focussing on politics of how BJP can defeat the BIF forces in elections hain?

All the issues you MYTY types keep raising are some selfish temple freeing activism without any concern for larger Hindu interests and unity as I posted in this link https://bharatganrajya.com/viewtopic.ph ... grel#p8352
Karthik wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:56 pm
Hmm, Vibhishana was a moral guy and asked Ravan to return Sita to Shri Ram. Anyway, will be really hoping once BJP gets majority in RS, many if indic issues related bills will be passed or repealed such as RTE.
[b]Repeal[/b] of RTE - You guys don't even lack the political sense that RTE can't be repealed but can only be modified that too with a majority in both houses,yet keep harping on it in this term of BJP when it has no majority to modify it.

Your swamytard cretin Sai Deepak denigrates RSS/BJP's long stated goal to repeal article 370 as a worthless goal in comparison to "his" selfish temple freeing goal in his bloviating speeches and yet you come and pose here as if the sky is falling because you found out few thousand Rohingya got settled in Jammu aided by the kashmiri Islamists. You claim to be fighting for rights of Jammu Hindus but repeal of art 370 hardly figures in your MYTY list of things to do.

You again claim sky is falling and NaMo is sleeping just because missionaries still slip through in the visa process while you intentionally ignore FCRA carpet bombing on missionary and Ngo networks by NaMo.

If you just want to do a MYTY(more yindoo than yindoo) routine targeting NaMo in politics thread thats plain to see but don't couch it in apolitical claims and claim that somehow you are more concerned about larger Hindu civilizational interests as opposed to NaMo/RSS ...
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:07 am

hanumadu wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:32 am


Reliance Defence is actually Pipaviv Defence which had several years of experience in defence manufacturing and which Ambani bought. Now go troll somewhere else.


More info. on what kind of company Pipavav was/is, I don't see anything similar to HAL's experience here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliance_ ... ngineering

But that is beside the point, the issue here is of impropriety due to the completely non-transparent manner Anil Ambani's company got this govt. contract at the cost of HAL, a govt. company.

Now go troll somewhere else.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:19 am

Trilobite wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:07 am

But that is beside the point, the issue here is of impropriety due to the completely non-transparent manner Anil Ambani's company got this govt. contract at the cost of HAL, a govt. company.
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Commie weird insect Trilobite ,
Having slithered away on the question of 16 billion USD coal import bill hole which monopoly CIL is notching up each year now you are back to targeting ambani/reliance like the good ole aaptard hain?

Why don't you guys target your pappas like TaTa or Jindal hain?
I heard TaTa defence systems is also getting defence contracts from govt . Since TaTas are also private players and are also neophytes in defence your commie spider sense must complain about nontransparency and incapacity right? (that they have managed to manufacture sikorsky bodies or Boeing doors in their Hyderabad faculty with tech transfer in few years despite being a low tech Indian company like Reliance is another fact actually) .

Let me ask you pointedly why do you keep harping on Ambanis and Reliance while you keep wagging your tails for TaTa and Jindals ?
Are Ambanis less Indian than TaTas and Jindals hain?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:40 am

Lilo wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:19 am

Commie weird insect Trilobite ,
Having slithered away on the question of 16 billion USD coal import bill hole which monopoly CIL is notching up each year now you are back to targeting ambani/reliance like the good ole aaptard hain?
Lullie Bhaktard, your all CIL related points were so nonsensical it wasn't worth wasting my time on, but if you want a response I will take a stab at them.

There is established procedure for awarding defence contract, you should know that right?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:26 am

Dear Bhaktards,

Do you have friends in Delhi who can tell you difference between Govt schools in Dehli today and in jan-2015 and jun-2015?

Instead of depending on fake news from RSS IT cell, sometimes it is worth to talk to people your know who also deal with commons once a while. I know enough anti-AAP activists in Delhi, who are saying that Delhi govt schools are in far better shape.

And friend of mine is doctor in Ahmedabad. And he has to often visit Delhi Govt hospitals as part of his project. He has been RSS-supporter all his life and all his family members have been RSS-supporters since 5000 BC. Even he had to admit that Govt hospitals in Delhi are now in far better shape.

Now AAP-workers and AAP-leaders are corrupt. But even then, they are doing better than changes RSS brought in Delhi when RSS was running State Govt between jun-2014 and feb-2015 via Modiji. That alone speaks volumes about how corrupt/defunct RSS-leaders and RSS-workers are --- that even AAPians are proving to be less bad

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Dear Nationalists
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Bhaktards here will try to sell you high octane stuff that no RSS leader ever took/takes bribes, no RSS-worker ever took/takes bribes, all RSS-leaders/workers are committed to free temples from govt control, all RSS-workers/leaders are working day and night to expel Rohingye from Jammu and Bangladeshi from whole India, they have valid reasons why they oppose wealth tax on land and support GST and on and on. You can take that high octane stuff , and drop the efforts to create a TRUE nationalist political electoral alternative. Now on voting day, when voters see only three alternatives --- congress/rss/aap, the voters may get sick and tired of corruption/defunctness/psuedoness of RSS and may end up voting for AAP. So pls dont blame voters that day. Please realize that it was YOUR decision NOT to work to create a TRUE nationalist political electoral alternative that drove voters to AAP.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:27 am

Lilo wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:06 am
sigh, dear lilo, your judgement of me is of no value, especially when you suck at it. I am not here to sing peons on RSS or BJP. Best left to pidis like you. :lol: you pick some technicality in repealing vs amending and that I didn't mention Art 370 specifically and say I don't know things? Congrats.
BJP defeating cong is not the same as BJP defeating BIFs, because BIF is not just a political party, it's a vast ecosystem that can't be neutralized by just winning elections. Till you understand this, no point in talking to you.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:32 am

Trilobite wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:07 am
hanumadu wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:32 am


Reliance Defence is actually Pipaviv Defence which had several years of experience in defence manufacturing and which Ambani bought. Now go troll somewhere else.


More info. on what kind of company Pipavav was/is, I don't see anything similar to HAL's experience here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliance_ ... ngineering

But that is beside the point, the issue here is of impropriety due to the completely non-transparent manner Anil Ambani's company got this govt. contract at the cost of HAL, a govt. company.

Now go troll somewhere else.
Reliance defence is only one of the companies that got a contract. The contracts were given to Indian industry panning 10's of companies, probably 100's. There was an article posted on BRF, I think. Please go check it out.

So, we have only one aircraft manufacturer in the entire country. If the whole idea is to create an alternative to HAL and spread the base of the MIC In Inida, its only natural HAL will not be given the contract.

Commietard.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:37 am

Trollbait, this is the article by shiv aroor listing the offset companies
https://swarajyamag.com/defence/rafale- ... fsets-plan

Also it's a Reliance Dassault JV. For all we know, Dassault chose Reliance. And yeah, please keep trolling.

BTW, HAL also got offset contracts from Dassault.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:49 am

Trilobite wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:27 am
@crams man, let me ask you the same question.

Contract worth Rs 22,000 crore which was originally supposed to go the public sector HAL which has 70 years worth of experience building planes goes to Anil Ambani's company in a completely non-transparent manner when his company has 0 experience of building planes, does this sounds like corruption to you or not?
Dipankerji,

Don't make NDTV your only source of info. The original deal was never going to happen, and even if it did, there was never going to be any transfer of technology. HAL was only going to apply screwdriver technology to assemble semi-knocked down kits in a PSU that is a monopoly in aircraft assembly in India. Dassault refused to guarantee HAL's work even under UPA's defunct deal.
HAL have enough business on their plate and would do well to ramp up production on current orders.

Contrary to your belief, Reliance isn't manufacturing planes. It is manufacturing components that go into the planes and radars.

Apples and oranges.

Besides, look at how previous Congress regimes priced earlier successful aircraft deals. Initial prices are lowballed at selection so their favored OEM gets the deal as the lowest bidder. Later, price goes up due to elapsed time and weapons/radar/maintenance contracts are priced separately.

You don't trust Swarajya? Fair enough. Then read expert opinions on BRF and do your own Google search wherever you suspect info may not be factual. THAT's how objective people separate fact from fiction.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:20 am

all questions will be answered once Trilobite aka Dipanker ji opens his card of allegiance to Kejriwal. BTW Why are you not doing this on BRF where thread is running into 100s of pages & response with people keenly interested in IAF deals dissecting it??

Dear Rahul Mehta ji your argument accepted. Peace.


BJP=RSS
RSS=Corruption
BJP=Congress
Hence RSS=Congress
Rafale=BJP
Rafale=Ambani
Ambani=Adani
Hence Rafale=Adani
Adani=Modi
Hence Rafale deal=Modi
Ambani=always corrupt
Hence Modi-=Rafale=corrupt

Abracadabra....
Vote Kejriwal=NOTA=Local candidate=Congress
Hence Rahul Mehta=Congress
Since congress = BJP (already proved)
Hence RaMe=BJP :facepalm:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:34 am

As if Kejriwal apology drama to Majitha was not enough it surfaces Ashish Khetan (close aid of Khujli) of Gulail fame who targeted Modi in 2014 for live in with a girl went to Majitha's house and fell at his feet asking for forgiveness & close the case.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:06 am

Karthik wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:27 am
Lilo wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:06 am
sigh, dear lilo, your judgement of me is of no value{hain if other's judgement carries no value just sit in your room and meditate in isolation. People post here so as to test the mettle of their ideas, and improve them by addressing challenges to them.If you are just a messenger running between SM and BGR posting propagandu from MYTY cretins like Sai Deepak that means you lack the mettle. } especially when you suck at it. I am not here to sing peons on RSS or BJP. {yeah we know, you only target NaMo/RSS on behalf of temple freeing types and swamitards as is clear from your post history in BGR}Best left to pidis like you. :lol: you pick some technicality in repealing vs amending and that I didn't mention Art 370 specifically and say I don't know things? Congrats.
BJP defeating cong is not the same as BJP defeating BIFs, because BIF is not just a political party, it's a vast ecosystem that can't be neutralized by just winning elections. Till you understand this, no point in talking to you.
{what!! you have opened my eyes sirji, till now I didn't realize that there is a congi dhongi ecosystem in our institutions ... Iam utterly grateful that you are propagating this wondrous discovery of cretin Sai Deepak so diligently.... Is probably what you want to hear ...but seriously, get a grip. Unluckily for you we are no spring chickens in BR. So no thanks for stating a generic cliche known here since eons that BIF is not a political party but is an ecosystem.}
Now to pose as if intending to change the ecosystem (or in reality claim few biscuits while claiming to change the ecosystem) cretin Sai Deepak puts up below dog and pony show
i.e
1)Pen a long grovelling petition in form of a PIL addressed to the lardships - because unlike susu this guy doesn't have access to handles on judges.
2)Crawl in front of them obsequiously or bribe them and plead them to hear a supposed PIF cause (or a selfish cause masked as PIF cause - like the temple freeing agenda).
3)Now try to extend the dog and pony show as long as possible in the courts while mooching off the gullible supporters.
4)Finally the case would be thrown our by the lardships with or without few token concessions.
5)Claim victory, Rinse and repeat with a new case .


Or to really change the ecosystem for PIF led by NaMo/RSS ,
1)Win brute force majority in Center as well as majority of states.
2)Reach a position in parliament to impeach a few SC judges or even threaten to impeach them to fall in line.
3)Now change constitution by repromulgating NJAC while simultaneously junking the "basic structure doctrine" innovated by the SC for good and armed with consequent parliamentary supremacy modify constitution itself , so that slowly the Constitution and the constitutional institutions themselves change from their current Hinduphobic form to being Hindutvacentric .

Above is the most simple and straight forward way to herald a sustained phase of Bharatiya civilizational reniassance and this is targeted by NaMo/RSS(even during vajpayees time his govt put forward a proposal for review of constitution) by obtaining brute force political power by sweeping elections.Further the political organization by BJP/RSS done to be able to win the election contributes to uniting the hitherto divided Bharateeyas and makes them receptive to further social and cultural change away from past dhimmigiri.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:09 am

It seems AAP may be disintegrating in Punjab.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:51 am

Lilo wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:06 am
Or to really change the ecosystem for PIF led by NaMo/RSS ,
1)Win brute force majority in Center as well as majority of states.
2)Reach a position in parliament to impeach a few SC judges or even threaten to impeach them to fall in line.
3)Now change constitution by repromulgating NJAC while simultaneously junking the "basic structure doctrine" innovated by the SC for good and armed with consequent parliamentary supremacy modify constitution itself , so that slowly the Constitution and the constitutional institutions themselves change from their current Hinduphobic form to being Hindutvacentric .

Above is the most simple and straight forward way to herald a sustained phase of Bharatiya civilizational reniassance and this is targeted by NaMo/RSS(even during vajpayees time his govt put forward a proposal for review of constitution) by obtaining brute force political power by sweeping elections.Further the political organization by BJP/RSS done to be able to win the election contributes to uniting the hitherto divided Bharateeyas and makes them receptive to further social and cultural change away from past dhimmigiri.
Good points, but do you know if points 2 and 3 will be carried out by MAD or is that what you are hoping for? If you are hoping or guessing they would, then sorry not everyone will have same thinking. If you do know some chaiwalah insider info about their grand strategy, then please tell so, that 2 & 3 are their long term agenda.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:19 am

Sasi wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:32 am
I think Modi supported (and is supporting) Yogi because Yogi is a henchman who can change the ground situation rather quickly. Which CM/administrator could have reversed UP's spectacular slide into lawlessness with such decisive actions as Yogi has done?
Too many theories going on in SM. Some say Yogi became CM by arm twisting Modi-Shah and Sangh; some say Shah overruled Modi & Sangh in making Yogi the CM, some say he is Modi-Shah's man and Sangh supports him. No way of actually knowing this unless you're in the power circles.
KarthikSan wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:33 am
MehtaRahulC wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:39 am
imo, we should use this as opportunity to expel FB, google, whatsapp, paytm etc out of India, by citing national security as concern, and then use "100% made in India, 100% made by Indian CITIZENS residing in India" software to replace these CIA / Chinese companies. (note - FB/WA/Google are run by CIA, and PayTm is run by Chinese)
While we are at it, we should also expel Intel,AMD, Qualcomm and Cisco because they also provide backdoor entry for NSA/CIA through their chips. And go back to the stone age!!!
I actually agree with RM on this. We should throw out Twitter, Google & FB. There is undeniable evidence that these companies work with US intelligence and wage psy-ops warfare on other nations. My company email which is registered on Twitter gets a Twitter 'digest' (if you will) every day. You know whose tweets I see day in & day out, here's a list -

Sagarika Ghose
Rana Ayyub
Barkha Dutt
Devdutt Patnaik
Shobhaa De
Aamir Khan
SRK
Shekhar Gupta

You get the drift.

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