The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:17 pm

the CPM has made good use of scrambling it's pet dogs.

Very quick, off their feet, when the commies want to be.



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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:37 pm

Looks khandhani.

Like daughter of a prosperous puncture repair shop owner.

Foolish and naive senior IAF officer.

was he so short sighted that he was unable to discern, understand, appreciate and bleddy well plainly see that the presented objects were pneumatically enhanced??

even donald duck could not be honey trapped by such gaseously breezy mammaries.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Kabir » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:57 pm

SSundar wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:39 am
abhijit wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:17 am
It would be better to ask around and see mood of people and post it here. It will help for better assessment on the ground... instead of simply criticizing people who are making you aware of the situation.

Guys, since 2019 is approaching lets check around and assess. Its like crowd sourcing. Lets collect the data as much as we can in our limited capacity.
Indeed, while we ignore the comments of known libtards and suspicious people who were never pro-Modi, we must listen closely for the grumblings of those who have genuinely changed sides.
Sundar ji, if you mean introspection - yes it is needed indeed. But mere defection and NOTA threats are far from introspection. Most criticizing supporters I see offer very little in terms of alternatives or areas of improvement apart from may be the odd forum like BRF. I am talking about the ground perceptions. BRF (BGR) and SM do not drive election outcomes sadly.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:40 pm

Kabir wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:57 pm
But mere defection and NOTA threats are far from introspection. Most criticizing supporters I see offer very little in terms of alternatives or areas of improvement apart from may be the odd forum like BRF. I am talking about the ground perceptions. BRF (BGR) and SM do not drive election outcomes sadly.
We as individuals can drive election outcomes though. When we see these people spew BS, we can find our own way to call them on it - depending on the kind of relationships we have with them. Every small drop helps.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rudradev » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:26 am

Supratik wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:14 pm
Pure garbage. He doesn't know how Modi functions. Modi is not Khilji that he will execute all those who worked for the previous regime. Except the recalcitrant he will make them work for him. Home ministry has worked the best in near memory. Naxalite violence is down and Islamist violence outside Kashmir is near zero. And after all these things like demo and GST he rants about no reforms. Nalapat is a reasonable guy. Expected better.
Precisely.

Frankly, it is very easy to demolish the argument that "Modi rode to power on a wave of Hindutva/Ram Mandir/Hindu Causes/Ending All Minority Appeasement in 2014, but has since betrayed/abandoned them."

Let's assume for one minute that it is true: Modi is simply a conniving and conscience-less individual who promised Hindus that he would turn this country into Hindu Rashtra (I don't remember anything like that, but anyway, let's say my memory is bad). Let us assume this was a singular or major factor that made overwhelming numbers of people vote for him and got him 282 seats in LS 2014 elections.

But for Modi to betray these very causes (that allegedly won him the last election) it isn't sufficient that he is merely conniving and conscience-less. He also has to be stupid. No? I mean, how can any intelligent person abandon the very cause that brought him the Gaddi, if he aims to do it again? For this to be true, has to be so weak-minded and gullible that 5 years in Lutyens Delhi have magically sapped his political instincts and replaced them with Nehruvian secularism.

This is a guy who has never lost an election. He has been Gujarat CM 3 times, undefeated, and then PM of India. So even if he doesn't really care about Hindus, what about the argument that he is also stupid/gullible/easily influenced to the point of totally losing his political instincts? I will leave it to forum members to decide how realistic or preposterous that argument is.

The far simpler and more obvious explanation is that the "wave of Hindutva" that swept Modi to power existed only in the minds of those who perpetually complain about Modi not acting on it. I certainly did not vote for Modi while labouring under any such delusion. I would really love to see evidence, hard data, that in any way indicates that such a "wave of Hindutva" was singularly or even majorly responsible for his 2014 victory.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:21 am

I obviously could not and did not vote in 2014. However, if I had been living in India and allowed to do so, I would have voted for Modi NOT because he promised Hindu supremacy (which of course he did not) but because he promised a better India for all, and he has delivered on that promise again and again, as far as I can seen. Yes, there are miles to go yet, but he has made more progress in this direction in 4 yrs than the Congoons did in 40.

It is a myth to believe that the middle class has not benefited. If the infrastructure of the nation improves, it makes life easier for everyone. If they now vote against Modi because they did not get more money in their pockets, it would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:08 am

chetak wrote:the CPM has made good use of scrambling it's pet dogs.
Very quick, off their feet, when the commies want to be.
The joy of the commies are short-lived. Kerala HC vacates media gag order on reporting Arab national's presser . Don't know if the Arab businessman would go ahead with the Press Meet. But the joke running in the state is that the story of Arab and the commie leader's sons tricking him was exposed to the media by none other than Com. Yechuri. Com. Yechuri is sulking because it was Com.Karat and the Kannur CPI(M) mafia which scuttled his plans for retaining the Rajya Sabha seat :lol:. At the national level CPI(M) and CPI are just two poodles of Congress, but if these two rotten eggs too can be throughly exposed it would just add to the fun. The defenders of the down trodden, the Kerala commies would also find it a bit tough to convince people that "night clubs" etc. are genuine pro-poor business establishments, and that is why the commie leader's sons ran such places.

Mean while, the UAE banks have realised that lots of Indians have cheated them on loans and have escaped to India. Rs.800 crore worth loans taken from UAE banks, siphones off using hawala and the loan takers make a quick dash to the socialist heaven, Kerala.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:10 am

Congress, NCP to join hands to fight BJP in elections.
May be Shiv Sena should make up its mind too (and join the "secular" parties). All said and done, this time I am seeing a consolidation of every one other than BJP to one side. A Maha-mahathagbandhan seems to be naturally forming up.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:27 am

Even if the opposition is not able to form a mahagathbandhan, imagine a scenario where BJP/NDA falls short of the 272 majority ( a loss of 60+ seats ), it will find it very hard to form a govt. as entire opposition will gang up against BJP. Some major horse trading ( buying ) may be required then to form govt. at the center.

So question is can BJP/NDA lose more than 60+ seats? Easily. Sixty seats are only about 20% attrition from the 2014 level and 2014 was an unprecedented year (after 84), in reality the attrition could be as high as 30 - 40% or higher. It seems its core voters ( Hindutva types ) are not too pleased, and middle class swing voters seems to be swinging away from BJP because they don't seem to be too happy either. There has been a definite souring of mood against BJP.
Lastly, tactical gathbandhans by the "secular" opposition at state levels will pose its own problems. If there was a threeway gathbandhan in UP among SP+BSP+INC, BJP would not have won UP.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rvishwakarm » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:37 am

Modi is Sehwag mode in Parliament

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:48 am

BTW, the AAP Govt. in New Delhi has banned beef :). Now I am just wondering what are they planning to sell in "Kerala House" :).
Trilobite wrote:
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Even if the opposition is not able to form a mahagathbandhan, imagine a scenario where BJP/NDA falls short of the 272 majority ( a loss of 60+ seats )....
So question is can BJP/NDA lose more than 60+ seats? Easily.
I concur with you. Repeating the 272 seats victory is next to impossible. BJP can/should:-
1. Try to retain all partners they have in NDA to remain with them, and they also being in a winnable position.
2. Make sure that the leaders involved in Mahathagbandhan are kept busy in court cases etc. (eg: Lalu). But seeing BJP's performance on this for the last four years, I don't think that would ever happen.
3. Get the others in Sangh Parivar to help them in what ever way they could do.
4. Sort out the Rama Janmabhoomi case. This, if they can pull through; I feel would be a major vote puller for the BJP.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:40 pm

But think of it this way - would the electorate want a khichdi sarkaar of Mualayam-Maya-Pappu-Kejru-Mamata-Pawar-Laloo-Marxists? Who would become PM? I think there is a good chance of BJP sailing through if there is indeed a maha-mahathagbandhan on a national scale. People will see through it, or I hope.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:23 pm

One opinion poll by NewsX is claiming that BJP will win Tripura. If that happens Bengalies will have finally dumped the Commies. The Commies will have only their swimming pool in Kerala to play. Keeping fingers crossed.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by shravanp » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:20 pm

Chandragupta wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:40 pm
But think of it this way - would the electorate want a khichdi sarkaar of Mualayam-Maya-Pappu-Kejru-Mamata-Pawar-Laloo-Marxists? Who would become PM? I think there is a good chance of BJP sailing through if there is indeed a maha-mahathagbandhan on a national scale. People will see through it, or I hope.
Nobody in their right mind would ever vote for khichadi b@stards. As a matter of fact, it would be good if all anti-BJP folks form mahagathbandhan, so that BJP can go around the town especially in Maharashtra or Gujarat or RJ/Haryana claiming Mamata Bannerjee or Karunanidhi may become PM. It would be puke inducing moment for them. Even better - show those candidates in their vile form via holograph. That would be a true polarizing moment :)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:26 pm

Sachin wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:48 am
BTW, the AAP Govt. in New Delhi has banned beef :). .
Really? A guy named Gaurav Jain has sued for the right to eat anything he wants? I thought I would not live to see the day. :roll:

Ah, with an NGO that works for the upliftment of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. I feel much better now. Thanks.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:20 pm

Rvishwakarm wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:37 am
Modi is Sehwag mode in Parliament
Didn't know what you meant until I saw this:

watch from 12.15 onwards when he talks about Gandhi's India. Absolutely Hilarious! Ise kehte hain pyaar se lena.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:24 pm

Primus wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:20 pm
Rvishwakarm wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:37 am
Modi is Sehwag mode in Parliament
Didn't know what you meant until I saw this:

watch from 12.15 onwards when he talks about Gandhi's India. Absolutely Hilarious! Ise kehte hain pyaar se lena.
Such a great relief to see the Sabapathiji actually take a firm line with the jokers on the other side - especially that She-Hyena, whatever her name is.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by KL Dubey » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:31 pm

Sachin wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:10 am
Congress, NCP to join hands to fight BJP in elections.
May be Shiv Sena should make up its mind too (and join the "secular" parties). All said and done, this time I am seeing a consolidation of every one other than BJP to one side. A Maha-mahathagbandhan seems to be naturally forming up.
INC-NCP together is nothing new and entirely expected....these guys were part of UPA in 2014 as well. Shiv Sena is in a soup - they may not win more than 2-3 LS seats if they go alone.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Kabir » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:38 pm

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Laughter from Ramayan! PM ji surely has a great wit and memory. After the raincoat jibe this one takes the cake again

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:42 pm

^
These two speeches - one in RS and the other in LS today both rank among his best so far. Unfortunately the one in the LS was marred by constant shouting from the Congoons, which the idiotic Sumitra Mahajan did nothing to stop. In contrast, Naidu was strict and unforgiving in his rebuke of the mischief makers, at one point saying to the Heckling Hyena (what a name, SS Ji) - "if you have a problem, go see a doctor". Priceless!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:00 am

Aircel-maxis deal: Classified scam report seized from PC home


Aircel-maxis deal: Classified scam report seized from PC home

Thursday, 08 February 2018 | J Gopikrishnan | New Delhi

Aircel-maxis deal: Classified scam report seized from PC home

A copy of a classified CBI report meant for submission in the Supreme Court in the Aircel-Maxis scam was recovered from former Finance Minister P Chidambaram’s bedroom by the Enforcement Directorate during its recent raid on his Jor Bagh residence in Delhi. The sensational recovery of document has shocked the CBI, which has started an internal probe to track the “moles” within.

Sources said the CBI Director has ordered the internal probe after ED alerted that during its raid on Chidambaram’s residence on January 13, they found a copy of the CBI’s draft status report. The CBI was to place the detailed status report in a sealed cover before the Supreme Court’s 2G Bench of Justices Arun Mishra and Amitava Roy on January 23. On the last date of hearing on January 4, the Judges insisted that CBI should file the status report on January 23. However the January 23 hearing did not take place as one of the Judges was on leave.

From December 15 onwards, the Supreme Court has repeatedly expressed its displeasure on the delay in the Aircel-Maxis probe. On January 4, when the CBI sought more time to file the status report, the court gave the deadline of January 23. The CBI filed the status report on January 22, but the hearing did not take place. It’s obvious that Chidambaram was privy to the report before the agency placed it in the apex court.

According to sources, the draft of the status report was leaked to Chidambaram by a serving Joint Director of CBI in connivance with an IPS officer from Himachal Pradesh cadre.

Chidambaram acknowledged the seizure of the CBI’s draft status report and also put his signature on the receipt of seized materials handed over to him by ED investigators. But he did not satisfactorily answer how the CBI documents came to his custody, sources said.

The draft report details Chidambaram’s role in the scam and his collusion with then Telecom Minister Dayanidhi Maran in illegally executing the Aircel-Maxis deal. The report also spoke about the statements of Finance Ministry officials on the role of Chidambaram in approving the Maxis’ takeover of Aircel without sending the files to Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs.

CBI’s internal vigilance team is checking the role of officers from Superintendent-level in the Delhi’s Anti Corruption Branch on the leakage of the draft status report. CBI’s top brass first started doubting the “existence of moles within” when it’s Look Out Circular (LOC) against Chidambaram’s son Karti was 'leaked’ after which he approached the Madras High Court for cancellation of the circular.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:29 am

Modi found his voice and gave some massive jhappad to the Congoons today. But that is not going to be enough to win 2019. It actually might backfire amongst those who are climbing the fence to go to the other side - aka middle class.

First, it is possible for the other side to paint him as arrogant and boastful. Second, Congoons sound more credible when they say that he should stop talking about Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi and focus on fixing his shortcomings like jobs and inflation.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:55 am

SSundar wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:29 am
First, it is possible for the other side to paint him as arrogant and boastful. Second, Congoons sound more credible when they say that he should stop talking about Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi and focus on fixing his shortcomings like jobs and inflation.
Tend to agree with you. Modi should get out of his "Bhaashan" mode now, or at least use it to time & regain remind the people on what changes his government has brought in. I know about "Mann ki baat" etc., but don't think it is enough. The "seculars" have the media still under their command, so it is time for BJP to find alternate channels and also start talking about what "they did for the country, than asking what the country can do for them".

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:07 pm

^

I may be wrong, but Modi is like a bulldog who won't let go once he gets his teeth into the opposition. As he said himself, he did not immediately go after the corrupt banks and their benefactors as that was not in the national interest and he wanted to prevent a crash in the markets.

If you listen to the entire speech, he does talk about all that was done in his short term, but he puts it in a way that really gets to the Congoons, who claim it was all their work to begin with. Listen to him talking about adhaar, demo, GST, Jan Dhan Yojna, Swacch Bharat etc. He reminds people that those who are complaining about the expensive ads for toilets forget the full-page ads taken out with government money to celebrate the birthdays of certain people in a certain family. It paints a picture of the Dienasty ruling the country as their personal fiefdom and willfully indulging in its rape and plunder, happily aided and abetted by a fawning coterie of miscreants. We all seem to have forgotten that and Modi reminds us how it was and could well be again if they come back to power.

I would not be surprised if this is the start of the final chapter against the perpetrators of the various scams and the generally corrupt.

Why is it that people keep screaming where is the action against the guilty and when it happens start screaming for something else? If all that Modi alleged in his speech is true (I believe it is), then the scope of the crimes committed against the nation and its people by the Congoons is mind-boggling. After all these years, the cronies, the sycophants, the enablers have become entrenched within the system. It would take a long time to undo and rebuild. Whether Modi gets to do so is the real question and will determine the future of the country.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by AbhishekC » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:44 pm

Missing in all this hoo-haa is a news item that Modi's wife Jashodaben just escaped an assassination attempt.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/n ... 675666.ece

Now who would benefit from killing this woman?

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