The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

[Hari Seldon]

As a put-down, this to me looks like pique:

and then the rona dhona shuru hoga ...yogi did not do reconquista...yogi betrayed me..yogi is sold out..blah blabababablaaaah...

Whereas this below is classy:

you mean "the jugi shud rejine" ??

This on the other hand is plain nasty.

Next hope we get some nanga sadhu to keep up the tempo! After that an airborne Narad-like character chanting Om Namo Narayanaya!

So logically (and in this particular case, pathologically), this parachute-yeah wants any unapologetic champion of Hindu interests to be caricatured as a naked fakir for a few cheap laughs, ROFLs and pent-ertainment? Wah-wah, I guess.

And why target the yogi specifically with cheap insults and snark-ass laughs?

Well, one reason could be that BGRites the para-chute-yeah disagrees with on this forum fully support The_Yogi? Or that such BGRites will merely vote for the Mudi but won't be uncritical of him anymore? Or perhaps simply that the pathological need no excuse to display their vileness?

Ain't our history full of precisely such jerkasses and jealous turds who'd preferred to piss on their own kind, their culture and its Gods (Sample this chweet quote right after painting obscene caricatures:

Narad-like character chanting Om Namo Narayanaya!

) and invited phoren invaders here to solve domestic piques?

Whatever the reason, the chap in Q could do better. Way better.

In any case, any simple analysis of the parachute-yeah's past posts demonstrates little contribution to any discussions, just pathological sliming, pettiness, cheap tricks and plain nastiness. You're not the first, due, or likely the last. Go do your worst. I choose to ignore your further attacks. G'bye and G'luck.

[MehtaRahulC]

Some 60 Hindus were burnt alive in Godhara on 27-feb-2002. Next day, VHP workers "worked" very hard and did .... whatever we know they did. And Modiji won dec-2002 assembly election ONLY because of that. Otherwise, between 1997-2002, there were 7 byelections and BJP had lost ALL except one byelection --- the one in which CM Modiji was himself was the candidate. Along with Modiji's election was also Sabarmati, Ahmedabad byelection which BJP lost by some 15000 votes.

IOW, VHP-workers active work was the MAIN reason why Modiji and BJP won dec-2002 elections

VHP workers were NOT expecting crores of rupees of compensation. But these did expect something in return. After all, BJP leaders earned crores of rupeees between 2002-2007 (and back then Modiji didnt have non-corrupt aura).

VHP workers in Gujarat had worked very hard since 1980. What they achieved in march-2002 was result of 20 years of hardwork. But BJP leaders as per Modiji's instructions started giving them cold welcome or rather FO after jan-2003. VHP workers had no way to go but campaign for BJP. Plus they were all worried that if congress comes back then congress will push all riot cases in 4th gear. So they kept campaigning for BJP. Most VHP workers are lower middle class - laari galla owner type. These VHP's foot soldiers were literally left penniless --- BJP leaders didnt even hire good lawyers for them, and had to pay their own lawyer fees. And when many landed in prison, BJP leaders NOTHING (yes NOTHING) to support the family members

So VHP in Gujarat is now so weak, that we can say that it has been fubarred beyond recognition. VHP workers are all disillusions now. If today Godhara like mishap happens, VHP workers will not do much.

This was one major point of clash between Togadiaji and Modiji -- that VHP leaders and workers didnt get even 1% of money BJP earned in 2002-now.
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Final fight was because Togadiaji and VHP workers were planning for massive action against theatres near you and threates across India - which show Padmavati. Mediamen want Modiji to ensure that Padmavati is shown across India peacfully except may be 3-4 states. But VHP workers are hell bent on stopping Padmavati. Arresting Togadiaji , that too in Gujarat and rajsthan would have sent a clear message to all anti-Padmavati-activists to put up and shut up.

Now the fight is all in open.

Indian elitemen and vidiesi elitemen support Modiji, and so do missionaries. And these people own mediamen. So mediamen will portray Togadiaji as traitor, rabble rouser etc. And RSS workers have been ordered to dump Togadiaji. So Togadiaji is losing now
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[Dumal]

As a put-down,
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your further attacks.

Not sure why anyone would see the quoted comments as put-downs or attacks! I can only see indications of major heart-burn in this long tirade filled with massive doses of irony.

[Sachin]

So mediamen will portray Togadiaji as traitor, rabble rouser etc.

So are you suggesting that mediamen were NOT portraying Togadiaji as all that you have written above? . Today Togadia got lots of attention, with even Shri. Harpik Patel (taking time off from video making) to meet him. It is not because of any great sympathy, but media (and the "seculars") want to use that as a stick to hit Modi & Shah. It is for Togadia and VHP to realise that they are being used as "useful idiots" by the "seculars". For VHP even today, their close ally would only be the Sangh Parivar.

[syam]

So VHP in Gujarat is now so weak, that we can say that it has been fubarred beyond recognition. VHP workers are all disillusions now. If today Godhara l

Very strange statements from you.
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Isn't it rss==bjp==vhp? Shaktiman == Gangadhar?

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Older person like you should be consistent with your statements. Gangadhar == Shakthiman. All are under missionary payroll. It's all big plan to betray hindus.

[syam]

Trust me, it is equally confusing the "seculars" as well. Hatred to Modi & Shah is making every "secular" cozy up to any one opposing them. Now who are the top most people in that group? It is folks like Shiv Sena and Togadia. Yes the very same Shiv Sena who once upon a time wanted to kick out Madrassis from Mumbai, and Togadia who spew venom against Muslims . The "seculars" are now shamelessly even co-opting them. The aam-aadmi "secular" on the ground, now don't have enough "secular" icons to rally behind, they are now forced to suppot forks like M/s Shatrughan & Yeshwant Sinha, Shiv Sena and now even Togadia.

Agree. It's totally confusing. New tweet from Togadia saab.

Dr Pravin Togadia

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We welcome Govt decision to cancel Haj Subsidy. Better late than never. We hope that, finally taken due to Hindu collective demand, this beginning step will now further grow into national laws for Ram Temple & Anti Cow progeny Slaughter in this session.

[hanumadu]

I don't think VHP or Pravin Togadia will betray Hindus' causes.
I don't believe there is a rift between VHP and RSS or BJP either.

Remember when Ashok Singhal died, Modi did not distance himself from him but paid homage to him and said it was a personal loss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w8lx9_0mAM

[KL Dubey]

I don't think VHP or Pravin Togadia will betray Hindus' causes.
I don't believe there is a rift between VHP and RSS or BJP either.

Remember when Ashok Singhal died, Modi did not distance himself from him but paid homage to him and said it was a personal loss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w8lx9_0mAM

Togadia, Bajrang Dal, Shiva Sena, etc have a "street fighter" quality to them that is useful in its own right. However, I doubt if they can be trusted with making policy, running a country or a state, and other such things.

I agree there is no BJP/RSS/VHP rift...it is the fake news media trying to rake up old issues.

The BJP-SS rift is real, though - but it is entirely due to the egoistic fool Uddhav. His brain is nearly on par with Pappu and he has no leadership qualities. Shoulda stayed in photography as a career - I admit he is very good at that.

[Sridhar k]

Recently, heard from a chaiwala with Sangh connections, that there are some in the Sangh who are willing to cultivate RaGa for 2024 , after RaGa promising them to become more Hindu friendly. Their hunch is that RaGA coming to power in 2024 and it is better to cultivate him through track two. Take it fwiw

[Chandragupta]

Fake news. No Sanghi worth his salt would buy Pappu's shenanigans. All Sangh people I know are already gunning for TheYogi in 2024.

[shravanp]

Recently, heard from a chaiwala with Sangh connections, that there are some in the Sangh who are willing to cultivate RaGa for 2024 , after RaGa promising them to become more Hindu friendly. Their hunch is that RaGA coming to power in 2024 and it is better to cultivate him through track two. Take it fwiw

Pappu is just a front. The real players are the ones behind him. "Cultivating" pappu for either INC or BJP, hoping that he will be man enough, is laughable.

[KL Dubey]

Meanwhile the verdict on Fodder Scam #3 is due a week from now...much bigger scam than the Fodder Scam #2 for which Lalu got 3 years recently...let us see how many more he gets.

[chetak]

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[MehtaRahulC]

So mediamen will portray Togadiaji as traitor, rabble rouser etc.

So are you suggesting that mediamen were NOT portraying Togadiaji as all that you have written above? . Today Togadia got lots of attention, ...

Paidmediamen (*) have projected Togadiaji as rabble rouser, but also as committed Hinduvaadi , nationalist. Now paidmediamen will project him as anti-Hindu, traitor etc. If Modiji puts Rajsthan IPS to arrest him and drag him to Rajasthan, and may be also torture him if not encounter him, then Togadiaji may end up asking congress etc to save him. Encountering Togadiaji can be very very fact fatched to you and me, but those who have studied Haren Pandya case in depth do sometimes get over-worried.

Now Modiji no longer depends on foot soldiers --- he has TV-channels to get votes for him. But sadly Togadiaji depends on foot soldiers and has to listen to foot soldiers. Foot soldiers want Togadiaji to lead campaign to beat Missionaries, ransack theaters showing Padvamati, remove govt control over temples etc. And Modiji wants Togadiaji to "manage"
workers on all these issues and ensure that Missionaries face no violence, Padmavati gets peaceful release, govt control over temple goes on etc. So the tussle keeps increasing.

Anyway, I dont want to take sides on Modiji vs Haren Pandya duel or Modiji vs Togadiaji duel or Modiji vs Snajay Josihi duel They are all intra-parivar matters and person outsider parivaar should NOT take sides. Way back in 1994, I came to know from several RJBD-activists in Ahmedabad that all apex leaders - Advanaji, Vajpayeeji, Modiji, Togadiaji etc were all opposed to proposal of taking referendum on RJBD, KJBD, KVD matters. For that point, I dismissed all of them as p-Hinduvaadies and p-Nationalists.

I only oppose Modiji's decision to blatantly misuse policemen/courts for settling personal political scores. All this enables junior leaders and IAS/IPS/courts to misuse policemen/courts against us commons as well. When PM manages a judge to issue warrant and PM asks IPS to arrest a person, just because PM has political score to settle, this gives a message to CM, Ministers, all MPs, all MLAs etc that it is perfectly OK to misuse courts/IPS for personal gains. And it also gives clear message to all judges/IPS etc that it is perfectly OK to get misused in others' games for some favor in return. And when local MLAs start using this game on us commons, the situation becomes same disaster we see in Kerala, WB. All in all, when it comes to misusing police/court apparatus, we finally see that SoGa and NaMo and Jyoti Basu are almost the same.

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Older person like you should be consistent with your statements. Gangadhar == Shakthiman. All are under missionary payroll. It's all big plan to betray hindus.

RSS is Gangadhar and VHP/BJP are shakimaan and they are one the same.

But in all groups, there is difference between activists and also difference between leaders and activists. All activists in congress/rss/aap are not same.

Before social media, activists didnt have clear picture of what their leaders and other activists are doing. Now every activist who has access to net knows what their leaders are made up of and what other activists on net are doing and not doing. And they also know about options. Also, before 1-jan-2016 (or pick any date), one had reason to believe that Modiji will free temples from govt control, Modiji will work to reduce corruption, Modiji will reduce cronyism, Modiji will work to reduce domination of usuk-elitemen due to FDI, Modiji will work to ban movies like Padmavatib etc. So many old time RSS-workers joined and stayed with RSS with these hopes. But now RSS workers who are fluent with internet have NO such delusions. They know Indian economy is to be handed over to usuk-elitemen using FDI, they know that poor Indians have to be handed over to Missionaries and in return the TV-channels owned by usuk-elitemen will work to get them voters, and "Yogi for PMship in 2024" campaign will be used to keep Hinduvaadies glued to RSS. And they have accepted this deals. But many old timers, who are NOT on net, dont know about these new strategies. So they keep asking for action on Hinduvaadi/Swadeshi agenda such as two child law, reducing Missionaries' influence, reducing FDI etc.

Solution is to bring all on internet. As more and more people come on internet, each worker in EVERY political group will know what his leaders aim for and what other workers aim for. So they will convert or leave, but intra-party clashes will reduce.

[Schmidt]

Recently, heard from a chaiwala with Sangh connections, that there are some in the Sangh who are willing to cultivate RaGa for 2024 , after RaGa promising them to become more Hindu friendly. Their hunch is that RaGA coming to power in 2024 and it is better to cultivate him through track two. Take it fwiw

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Actually this is a smart strategy

The RSS is about Hindutva whilst the BJP which is supposed to look after Hindutva interests ( they clearly asked for our votes based on that ) doesn't seem to be doing anything

For instance there is a raging controversy in TN right now - where the MOFO Vairamuthu has made blasphemous remarks against Saint Andal

This has for the first time united Hindus and you can see mass protests against this SOB and his supporters like Stalin throughtout TN

But the BJP is strangely quiet - except for H Raja who spewed some vitriol against the MOFO Vairamuthu in characteristic style , the top BJP leadership in TN is pretty reticent about this , when it offers an ideal platform to mobilize the people against Dravidian politics and their ideology

In fact TTV Dhinakaran is the only politician who came out and condemned these remarks outright

Ultimately we need to look after our own interests , and if the BJP doesn't live up to its side of the bargain , nothing wrong in making a deal with the devil

In fact I feel that the Congress would serve our interests better because they care about power only , and might be interested to listen to the RSS if it gets them extra votes

At any rate , there is nothing to differentiate the BJP from the Congress in terms of economic policy

It also makes sense to keep the adversary guessing - they are anyway adopting soft Hindutva as it is

The Muslims too have become smarter - they are keeping a low profile and giving no reason for Hindu consolidation , whilst steadfastly remaining hostile to Hindu interests

[Aditya_V]

Recently, heard from a chaiwala with Sangh connections, that there are some in the Sangh who are willing to cultivate RaGa for 2024 , after RaGa promising them to become more Hindu friendly. Their hunch is that RaGA coming to power in 2024 and it is better to cultivate him through track two. Take it fwiw

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Actually this is a smart strategy

The RSS is about Hindutva whilst the BJP which is supposed to look after Hindutva interests ( they clearly asked for our votes based on that ) doesn't seem to be doing anything

For instance there is a raging controversy in TN right now - where the MOFO Vairamuthu has made blasphemous remarks against Saint Andal

This has for the first time united Hindus and you can see mass protests against this SOB and his supporters like Stalin throughtout TN

But the BJP is strangely quiet - except for H Raja who spewed some vitriol against the MOFO Vairamuthu in characteristic style , the top BJP leadership in TN is pretty reticent about this , when it offers an ideal platform to mobilize the people against Dravidian politics and their ideology

In fact TTV Dhinakaran is the only politician who came out and condemned these remarks outright

Ultimately we need to look after our own interests , and if the BJP doesn't live up to its side of the bargain , nothing wrong in making a deal with the devil

In fact I feel that the Congress would serve our interests better because they care about power only , and might be interested to listen to the RSS if it gets them extra votes

At any rate , there is nothing to differentiate the BJP from the Congress in terms of economic policy

It also makes sense to keep the adversary guessing - they are anyway adopting soft Hindutva as it is

The Muslims too have become smarter - they are keeping a low profile and giving no reason for Hindu consolidation , whilst steadfastly remaining hostile to Hindu interests

This is the Heights, when the 2nd rung in INC is made of Atheists, and Uber Sickulars- you actually expect them to keep any part of the Bargain- First ask RAGA to publiically promise Ram Temple will be Built. And 9.5 Lakh crores NPA looting, Chinese imports increasing from USD 4 Billion to 52 Billion in 8 years, 8 lac crores in just Coal Scam and 2G scam- even in the SC ordered reauction 1.76 crore was netted, SWAN Telecom and Unitech et al given 2G licenses were never Telephone companies. High Interest rate regime, Loan write offs to big sharks, Real estate sharks. You guys actually can compare the 2? after all this?

After the neglect on Defence forces, wanting to give Siachen and open LOC for Pakis then the whole of India.

India is a Free country, support INC if you wish for a Post Hindu India, personal profits etc.... but not on Hindu causes, Defense, economy or social welfare

[Schmidt]

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I said it is a good strategy , not that I expect much good out of it

Two positives that can emerge - it will make the BJP more sensitive to Hindutva expectations , get off its high horse and get down to some action
Secondly , it will make the Congress leadership aware of the Hindutva angst , and maybe effect a change in their behavior
The objective is to shift the entire political spectrum to the right ,more amenable to Hindutva expectations

Heck , if we can talk to Pakistan and China after what they are doing to us , no harm in at least talking to the Congis
They are still our people , we should work with them rather than be totally hostile to them

Sure corruption is an issue with the Congress , what is the Modi government doing about it ?? They have had nearly 4 years to prosecute these mofos and put them in jail - right

And it riles me seeing mofos like Vadra , Karti , even PC / Rahul / Sonia roaming around freely cocking a snook at the govt and the people as if nothing happened

[Aditya_V]

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I said it is a good strategy , not that I expect much good out of it

Two positives that can emerge - it will make the BJP more sensitive to Hindutva expectations , get off its high horse and get down to some action
Secondly , it will make the Congress leadership aware of the Hindutva angst , and maybe effect a change in their behavior
The objective is to shift the entire political spectrum to the right ,more amenable to Hindutva expectations

Heck , if we can talk to Pakistan and China after what they are doing to us , no harm in at least talking to the Congis
They are still our people , we should work with them rather than be totally hostile to them

Sure corruption is an issue with the Congress , what is the Modi government doing about it ?? They have had nearly 4 years to prosecute these mofos and put them in jail - right

And it riles me seeing mofos like Vadra , Karti , even PC / Rahul / Sonia roaming around freely cocking a snook at the govt and the people as if nothing happened

The INC has been exploiting this since Indira Gandhi time, remember the Beef ban promise and then slaughter of Sadhus in Delhi. Unless we can show we punish and wipe out, out and out anti Hindu political parties and get a new opposition will much of the old Anti Hindu ecosystem collapsing, we have no hope.

This folks will cock a snook cause, they are ones who recurited the Babus, Judicary etc, till recently, the system will take 2-3 election cycles to dismantle. I am sure Modi will liek nothing better than to put his political opponents in Jail and strip them of their Financial power, but these people will definitely have clout in the Investigation agencies and courts for near future.

Alternate Political Parties will emerge, but we need to in 10-15 years to remove the Ecosystem put in place by the Left-Gandhi(Nehru) family in the first place. They have a clear post Hindu India ideology.

[chetak]

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I guess, this is what Siddaramaiah meant by saffron terror.

[Sachin]

Recently, heard from a chaiwala with Sangh connections, that there are some in the Sangh who are willing to cultivate RaGa for 2024 , after RaGa promising them to become more Hindu friendly.

Well looks like they have to create more vacancies in the Marg Darshak Mandal . Believing Ra.Ga (or any Congress leader) to become Hindu-friendly is really far fetched. But I am sure that there are few dumbos in Sangh who may believe it. Maneka Ghandi and her son, who have no great credentials were taken to the BJP just so that they also have a Nehru-Ghandi bahu in their ranks (to counter the Italian Bahu). This mom & son duo, are now more of a pain for BJP than actually bringing up any benefits.

Pappu is just a front. The real players are the ones behind him. "Cultivating" pappu for either INC or BJP, hoping that he will be man enough, is laughable.

Exactly. I feel when Sonia took over the INC command, the complete back stage players have been changed. From then on, it is essentially people who have no great love for India (or its culture and traditions) which have been the guiding force for the INC. Any INC leader with any Indic thoughts have been clearly side lined. These back stage groups, unfortunately only have Ra.Ga as the lead actor to act on the stage. So they have to kind of make the best use of him.

Meanwhile the verdict on Fodder Scam #3 is due a week from now...

Which bench is hearing the case? Because I read in the news that the revolting judges and the CJI would now come up with a more documented procedure to distribute the cases. I feel the whole "revolt" was mainly because of a few people realising that their cases are not landing up in the bench of the "right set" of judges.

Secondly , it will make the Congress leadership aware of the Hindutva angst , and maybe effect a change in their behavior. The objective is to shift the entire political spectrum to the right ,more amenable to Hindutva expectations

I think such changes are slowly happening as well. Ra.Ga becoming a "Brahmin" (Janyu-dhari to boot), hopping around temples itself is a change happening in the Congress camp. This could be a drama for now, but the Hindutwavadis can use this very drama to make Ra.Ga do more for Hindutwa. As you said rightly, move the political scale more towards centre of right. The "seculars" are trying to maintain status-quo, but if BJP can show more "Hindu consolidation" happening, all other political parties would have to rethink their strategy.

And what really needs to happen is to make the Indian leftist/communists irrelevant in all social spheres in India. Today it is the Congress which supports them. That support should be taken out; many problems in India today would automatically go away. To be frank; if M/s Sitaram Yechuri, Prakash Karat, S. Ramachandran Pillai & Daniel Raja actually starts thinking of taking up a well paying job (and do some work), that itself would be a big change to happen in India.

[syam]

RSS is Gangadhar and VHP/BJP are shakimaan and they are one the same.

I actually understand what you are saying. Every organisation faces this type of problem. Top leadership rarely interacts with bottom tier cadres. They mostly give commands and cadre just follows.

Only issue is, you accusing rss for every thing out there. I seldom see any rss guy on tv or paper. Last time I had seen them, they were helping some flood victims.

Why should I believe what you are saying? There is no material on them. Only persons I know are Mohan Baagwat and few others whose name I don't even know.

How can we make accusations when we don't know who is who??

[Vikas]

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Sure corruption is an issue with the Congress , what is the Modi government doing about it ?? They have had nearly 4 years to prosecute these mofos and put them in jail - right

And it riles me seeing mofos like Vadra , Karti , even PC / Rahul / Sonia roaming around freely cocking a snook at the govt and the people as if nothing happened

Could it be that Legally Govt has got nothing against the accused. Heck GoI with all its might and resources could not even get Raja sentenced for 2G scam.
I doubt if Govt has any case against the top leadership of UPA except for accusations and public resentment.
JMT..

[Vikas]

Someone pray tell me How SC finds time to pick up frivolous cases like release of a movie or bail plea of an accused or Jallikattu and then esteemed Judges cry about too much of work on their plate. What exactly is the role of SC in Bharat ?
I don't pay taxes so that someone can order a movie to be released in a state despite risk of law and order/deaths and destruction of public property.

Personally I am against banning anything but then would SC agree with not banning anything in Bharat irrespective of consequences.

PS: Mehta Ji, On NBJP nexus and corruption, I somehow find myself agreeing with you.

[MehtaRahulC]

RSS is Gangadhar and VHP/BJP are shakimaan and they are one the same.

I actually understand what you are saying. Every organisation faces this type of problem. Top leadership rarely interacts with bottom tier cadres. They mostly give commands and cadre just follows. Only issue is, you accusing rss for every thing out there. I seldom see any rss guy on tv or paper. Last time I had seen them, they were helping some flood victims. Why should I believe what you are saying? There is no material on them. Only persons I know are Mohan Baagwat and few others whose name I don't even know. How can we make accusations when we don't know who is who??

Missionaries also help fllod victims, poor etc and give food/medicine etc to poor. But their is to convert, not to serve. And once people convert, they attend Sunday congregations. And via Sunday congregations, they can be fed with beliefs that help usuk-elitemen. And so usuk-elitemen across world help missionaries.

So rss-workers also help flood victims so that victims and people who see them helping victims become rss voters so that rss leaders win elections. IOW, all this social work is only to create a space in minds of voters to collect vote for rss.

Best way to know ideology of a workers is to see what law-drafts he supports and what law-drafst he refuses to support, on twitter/fb and newindia dot in (newindia dot in is PM's website, where people can put law-drafts they want and get do voting. See newindia.in/causes/RtrDeo2 as an example. This is new, so one may not know about it for now). Do you see rss-workers promoting law-drafts to remove govt control over temples over fb/twitter? NO. Do you see them promoting law-drafts to bring down land hoarding in India? NO. IOW, what they dont do speaks volumes about what they want , and why they want so.

The congress/rss/aap workers who are below 30 years of age and very fluent with internet has no confusion now They fully know domination of usuk-elitemen in India is growing due to FDI, they know that Missionaries have huge land and thats the principal source of their strength, and they know usuk-elitemen own much of paidmedia in India today. They want their organizations and leaders to prevail, and so they know that they must let their leaders namely SoMoKe server usuk-elitemen and missionaries. And so these coraap-workers never ask their leaders to print laws that can make usuk-elitemen or missionaries or indian desi land hoarders angry.

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Alternate Political Parties will emerge, but we need to in 10-15 years to remove the Ecosystem put in place by the Left-Gandhi(Nehru) family in the first place. They have a clear post Hindu India ideology.

Aditya_V is making a comment favoring alternate political parties? I though anyone who wanted "alternate" party was someone who wants congress to win and he is BIF !!

I have been saying since 1998, and since I arrived on BRF since year 2000, that "nationalists true -secular, true-pro-poor, true-anti-corruption etc should ignore congress/rss/cpi (now cpi label is replaced by aap), and instead work to form REAL nationalist party" . And here you say almost same, except use word "alternate political parties".

if a section of rss-leaders and rss-workers think that by helping RaGa and his temple run, Hindus can gain, then they are wrong. RaGa is like many missionaries who wear bhagawa cloth and also sing bhajans !! Yes, there are missionaries who wear bhagwa on Hindu festivals days, and sing bhajans, and words like Krishna are replaced by Christ !! Church celebrates Hindu festivals so that semi-coverted flock doesnt visit temples on those days and instead come to church. But their goal is to gradually erase Hindu rituals.

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SCjs have sold out to BIF and unbanned Padmavati movie across India. And as expected, you see congress/rss/aap workers praising SCjs of their landmark judgments, their commitment to free speech and their patriotism.

Solution I propose is Jury System to decide if movie should be released of banned. A Jury of 50 to 1500 Jurors should be chosen at random from voterlist of state/India to decide if the movie should banned or not. Jurors will not sell out like SCjs or magistrates. Now if I am in Jury, I would ban Padmavti under IPC section-295 and section-295A and also fine movie makers and also imprison movie makers and lead actors and lead actresses for say 3 years to 1 year. If you are in Jury, you may do same or opposite or different. Each Juror decides on his own, and Juror doesnt have to give reason to anyone. My guess is that no matter which 1500 random Indian voters are chosen, they would have ban Padmavati, Also, in the law-draft I have supported, decision of Jurors can be changed by referendum. So BIF can bribe a few judges, but cant ban 100s of Jurors and crores of voters.

But as expected, Karni sena, an RSS outfit, leaders didnt demand any Right to recall judge law, didnt demand any referendum, didnt demand any Jury Trial and simply started with nonsense of "kill this actor, kill that director" and all that nonsense. Looks like they were more interested in projecting anti-Padmavati-people as savages than really getting the movie banned.

Togadia had said that he would oppose the Padmavati movie. Lets see what he does now.

PS: Mehta Ji, On NBJP nexus and corruption, I somehow find myself agreeing with you.

(a) AWMTA (means All wise men think alike )
(b) sooner of later, one has to believe in God
(c) sooner or later, one has to agree with RM a common
(d) above three statements mean one and same

[Indrad]

congress & media using pressure tactics to corner GoI on Doklam over and over https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 557634.cms

The MEA said the status quo at Doklam has not been altered and "any suggestion to the contrary is inaccurate and mischievous"
Earlier, Congress had cited satellite imagery and media reports to claim that a buildup of Chinese troops was taking place at Doklam