The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by syam » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:15 am

Sachin wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:17 am
:) Mehta-ji is like the ever-discreet Special Branch police man ;). I too don't agree with many of his political view points, but I feel that he exactly knows what is happening behind the scenes.

Togadia is also a VHP leader, like Ashok Singhal*. Was'nt Singhal leading the VHP during the Babri Masjid demolition? Because at that time BJP and VHP seemed to be great friends. It may be some where after 2010-2012 that I feel things started changing. Togadia seems to be actually working as an agent for the INC, and was seen as the most readily available Hindutwavadi who can make some non-sense speech and deflect attention when INC was facing heavy fire. This may be the same time when in South India, an unknown Pramod Muthalik came up with the Shri Ram Sene again for the very same purpose. Now it looks like Togadia and Muthalik are the INC-sponsored "Hindu right wingers" who are always ready at the doors to start religious hate mongering, if it helps INC.
Togadia campaigned for BJP in 2002 elections. He is supposed to be same like Modiji. Both are pracharaks. His wiki says he is rss member since childhood. Wonder how it turned into something like this.

Trust hindus to lose the plot and fight among themselves. Even Singhal and Vajpayi fought with each other.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:16 am

If above is true, then we have a power loving non indic guy at the helm.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:46 am

1.5 years away from 2019 and we have all weapons out from asura side..latest is chadm yudh in which they claim to be Hindutva forces with Raga sporting a teeka yet surrounded by IS wanna be warriors. Luckily people are equally chalak these days and able to see through fog (better than us)
Hindu card is a new patta from congress side, it won't take long for BJP to decimate that if they are street smart.
Recieving videos on wapp where Amit Shah is a villain standing taller than courts and judges dropping dead one after another.
Since aam junta is busy in 2 square meal and FB, idea is to muddy water and gain from confusion.

silver linig on cloud is politics moving to centre from left, visit t/l of rana ayub to enjoy discomfort.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:48 am

Whatever said & done, Modi ji is extremely ruthless within his own party. Not so much outside it.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:53 am

Chandragupta wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:48 am
Whatever said & done, Modi ji is extremely ruthless within his own party. Not so much outside it.
:rotfl:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Singha » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:59 am

the fourth judge is not the son of tarun gogoi. his son gaurav gogoi is a MP and much younger than judge gogoi.

no idea if they could have some relation, gogoi is a fairly common surname in eastern assam.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by fanne » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:54 pm

Gogol is son of a former cong cm, not the last one

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:03 pm

Haj subsidy removed. Finally!

The issue is that discourse in India is still that 'all religions are equal to the state', 'state must treat all religions the same'. This is such an artificial construct and everyone finds it tough to break out of this construct including RSS and BJP. It is still non-PC in India to suggest that Indic faiths are our own and abrahamic faiths are not. No other country on this planet adopts such idiotic principles.

What I hope is one day, may be under Yogi Raj, India would become what it was always meant to be - the protector of Indic faiths and thought systems - openly and unabashedly.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:19 pm

and then the rona dhona shuru hoga ...yogi did not do reconquista...yogi betrayed me..yogi is sold out..blah blabababablaaaah...

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:37 pm

Gus wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:19 pm
and then the rona dhona shuru hoga ...yogi did not do reconquista...yogi betrayed me..yogi is sold out..blah blabababablaaaah...
Tab ka tab dekhenge Gus sahab.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:57 pm

Is it impossible that the virus of psec-ism, foolish-forgiveness, over-magnanimity, unwarranted-fairplay, prithviraj_chauhan_syndrome etc that afflicted ABV, then LKA and perhaps to some extent NM will *never* infect The_Yogi_ji?

Sure, its possible such may happen. We'll have to wait and see though.

Note however that none of the others wore saffron, swore saffron and eschewed post-modern comforts the way The_Yogi has.

So I have more faith in The_Yogi never swerving from the Indic path than I have of NM rediscovering his Indic priorities somehow.

But yeah, time will tell. And after a few shocks and jolts like we got with LKA's jinnah moment and NM's inexplicable acts of omission on RTE etc, one does tend to get a tad jaded, cynical even.

But to Yogi ji's credit, I get from him almost the same undiluted sense of hope and reassurance that I once did from ABV in 1999, from NM back in 2002 and then again in 2012-14. Only.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:52 pm

Justice Mishra of Loya case in an emotional outburst said, “The only thing I have earned in my life is reputation and you have tried to attack it... How do you propose to give it back to me? You should have killed me with a bullet rather than attacking my reputation.”
His remarks came days after four SC justices criticised the distribution of cases to judges and raised concerns about judicial appointments, in an unprecedented public airing of problems at one of the country’s most respected institutions.

Justice Mishra is also learnt to have said that he was overloaded with work but was carrying out the duties assigned to him despite health problems.

“I have been working 16 hours a day and I am overburdened with work,” he said.
justice mishra of loya case disturbed with PC of fraud 4 https://www.indiatoday.in/mail-today/st ... 2018-01-16

Justice Mishra had heard petitions filed by controversial former IPS officer Sanjiv Bhatt seeking reopening of the Godhra riots, Sahara-Birla diary case probe and the medical admission scam, and dismissed them.

He is also hearing a petition seeking a probe into the death of judge BH Loya who was hearing the Sohrabuddin encounter case, which may come up in the SC again on Tuesday.

On the re-opening of the SC in the first week of January, Justice Mishra ordered agencies concerned to file a fresh investigation status report on the 2G scam, which seemed to have triggered strong reactions, sources said. It is learnt that the four judges who held the press conference were also present at the tea meet.

Sources said that during Justice Mishra’s outburst, several judges tried to calm him down. Later, the CJI took him to his chamber to assuage his feelings.

During the conversation, when a judge pointed out that Justice Mishra was not named in the press conference, he said the episode had given a handle to individuals.

It is learnt that another fellow judge expressed his views in agreement with Justice Mishra at the meet.

The four judges in their letter to the CJI had said, “There have been instances where a case having far-reaching consequences for the nation and the institution had been assigned by the CJI selectively to the benches “of their preference” without any rationale basis for such assignment.”

The press conference was called by Justices J Chelameswar, Ranjan Gogoi, Madan B Lokur and Kurian Joseph.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:59 pm

cctv footage has surfaced where Pravin Togadia is seen entering residence of his associate Ghanshyam Bhai's residence some 2 hours after reports of him missing! Lol...like Raga he avoided police protection given to him to execute the drama.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rahul M » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:14 pm

Gus wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:19 pm
and then the rona dhona shuru hoga ...yogi did not do reconquista...yogi betrayed me..yogi is sold out..blah blabababablaaaah...
you mean "the jugi shud rejine" ?? :rotfl:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by syam » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:40 pm

You guys forgetting, yogi pampering mu**ies in his ashram. What is he doing with those mu**ies? Why Mu**ies when so many hindus roaming on streets homeless? Can't he see they are going to back stab him one day? This dude behaviour is too suspicious. Not to be trusted.

*power loving non indic guy at the helm* :facepalm: :facepalm:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:52 pm

Rahul M wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:14 pm
you mean "the jugi shud rejine" ?? :rotfl:
:rotfl:

Oh that day is coming. I am certain of that.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:56 pm

Rahul M wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:14 pm
you mean "the jugi shud rejine" ?? :rotfl:
you must tweet it! :rotfl:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:09 pm

https://barandbench.com/justice-arun-mi ... ya-recuse/
If true ecosystem 1.
Arun Mishra has rescued himself from hearing of Loya's case.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:49 pm

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 530387.cms
the jugi went there for a second time on Tuesday along with the Israel PM
why for he went there I ask you not respecting hindu sentiments. that too showing israelis how week we are.

sell out sell out .. :)) :)) :))

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:43 am

Heh. Dunno if its the turd's official account however.
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# Haj Subsidy Rajasthan govt allocated 38.91 crores in 17-18 for Devasthan dept ,last government had ₹260 milllion for temple renovation & training of Hindu Priests is this Not Appeasement & Vote Bank Politics
Well, sure, RJ govt controls all temple properties. Let them release the same to a "Hindu wakf" board and temple revenues used instead of govt grants for Hindu causes. Long standing demand only.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:48 am

Loan, land issues settled, work on Yogi Adityanath’s expressway set to begin soon (ET)
NEW DELHI: The nondescript villages of Chand Sarai in Lucknow and Haidariya in Ghazipur will be the two ends of the country's longest expressway. The Yogi Adityanath-led Uttar Pradesh government has finalised details of the 341-km long Purvanchal Expressway, which will be constructed at an estimated cost of Rs 13,186 crore by the end of 2020.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is expected to lay the foundation stone of the project in February or March. Uttar Pradesh has secured assurances from banks for a loan of Rs 15,000 crore for the project, of which Rs 2,000 crore has already been released, an indication that lack of finances will not come in the way of completing the project in the targeted 30 months.

Besides being the country's longest six-lane expressway, linking Uttar Pradesh's capital to the state's eastern end, the other unique selling point of the highway is that it will connect the state's 'three temple towns' o f Varanasi , Ayodhya and and Allahabad.
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Nothing quite like world class connectivity to spring frth econ possibilities that none would have seen previously.

Can vouch how much bhagyanagaram's outer ring road has changed the scene in Hyd - made ample land supply within reach for industry, govt, citizens... Heck, I'd be surprised if the ORR region alone doesn't produce a quarter trillion USD in GDP by 2030, still a fraction of what Shanghai's Pudong area alone does today.

Hoping The_Yogi will change the Hindi heartland's fortunes steadily and non-slowly. Only.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:48 am

5.5 million jobs created in FY18? Here is what EPFO data says (FinExp)
New data derived from Employees’ Provident Fund Organisation (EPFO) accounts suggest that, contrary to the jobless-growth narrative, India created at least 5.5 million jobs in the formal sector in FY18, on top of around 4.5 million in FY17 — that is, not only are the number of jobs created many times greater than that put out by organisations such as the Labour Bureau, even the growth is significantly higher than that suggested by them.

The analysis, by Pulak Ghosh of IIM Bangalore and Soumya Kanti Ghosh of State Bank of India, was released on Tuesday. The data are at variance with not just headline GDP data, it doesn’t jell with consumption or investment data either. After all, if investment is so sluggish, where are these jobs being created? And if this is the level of jobs creation, why is consumption growth so sluggish?

But the problem is that the traditional Labour Bureau-type data don’t capture what is happening either. Arvind Singhal of consultancy firm Technopak estimates, based on about seven jobs for each Rs 1 crore of turnover, that the retail sector alone (both organised and unorganised) generated 2-2.5 million jobs over the last 12 months.
Wow. Happy news. Glad to say I personally know and have worked with one of the study's authors. If the data are clean, then I have trust in the rigor of the process followed to arrive at the results.
Singhal estimates another 500,000 jobs apiece would have been generated by tourism and apparel/footwear. “Few of these jobs,” Singhal says, “would reflect in the EPFO data, so this is in addition to what the Ghosh-Ghosh study estimates.”

TV Mohandas Pai and Rajesh K Moorti of Aarin Capital Partners were the first to use EPFO data to show the official Labour Bureau data on jobs creation was incorrect in articles in this newspaper. Pulak Ghosh and Soumya Ghosh have cleaned up the EPFO data considerably to arrive at their conclusions.

While the EPFO’s raw data suggest there are 8.7 crore member accounts, the duo removed 2 crore accounts because the data was incomplete; another 1 crore accounts were removed because they came in via various amnesty schemes given to firms which needed to be deducting EPFO contributions but didn’t. The names were also run through various de-duplication software to ensure their uniqueness.
EPFO data implies formal, organized sector employment only. No? Sure enough ...
Finally, they zeroed in only new contributors who were 18-25 years old, to ensure they were capturing only new employees; new employee accounts that didn’t have steady EPFO contributions were also dropped on the grounds they may be fraud accounts.

All data pertain to the formal sector as informal sector employees don’t contribute to EPFO. In addition, Ghosh & Ghosh say there is also considerable employment generated from other sectors like education. In the automobiles sector alone, based on automobile sales, they estimate this sector generated 2 million driver jobs in FY17.
There's some multiplier which kicks in when we wanna calculate the #informal jobs created due to every formal job created.

All of this basically, suggesting we definitely need Amriki style BLS (Bureau of labor statistics) data on payroll changes qtr-to-qtr if not bloody well month-to-month... Only.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:58 am

https://youtu.be/4tstDF8BGFA

Full video of thuglak yearly meet.

Jetli has a good speech in there.

Did not know he was jailed for 18 months in indira time.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Dumal » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:37 am

Hari Seldon wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:57 pm

Note however that none of the others wore saffron, swore saffron and eschewed post-modern comforts the way The_Yogi has.
:rotfl: :rotfl: Next hope we get some nanga sadhu to keep up the tempo! After that an airborne Narad-like character chanting Om Namo Narayanaya!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:49 am

syam wrote:Trust hindus to lose the plot and fight among themselves. Even Singhal and Vajpayi fought with each other.
Trust me, it is equally confusing the "seculars" as well. Hatred to Modi & Shah is making every "secular" cozy up to any one opposing them. Now who are the top most people in that group? It is folks like Shiv Sena and Togadia. Yes the very same Shiv Sena who once upon a time wanted to kick out Madrassis from Mumbai, and Togadia who spew venom against Muslims :lol:. The "seculars" are now shamelessly even co-opting them. The aam-aadmi "secular" on the ground, now don't have enough "secular" icons to rally behind, they are now forced to suppot forks like M/s Shatrughan & Yeshwant Sinha, Shiv Sena and now even Togadia.
Indrad wrote:silver linig on cloud is politics moving to centre from left, visit t/l of rana ayub to enjoy discomfort.
Yes. Even the Congress would have to play the Soft-Hindutwa line, and may even be willing to co-opt folks like Togadia. We need to admit this; it was BJP & Modi which forced the Congress gang to change their tune now. Pandering to Islamists would now have to be in more hushed tones. The CPI(M) and CPI traitor gang has been completely sidelined in national level politics.
cctv footage has surfaced where Pravin Togadia is seen entering residence of his associate Ghanshyam Bhai's residence some 2 hours after reports of him missing!
This CCTV is becoming a big pain for the "seculars". Harpik Patel's shenanigans got exposed thanks to CCTV. Now Togadia's goose is also being cooked by CCTV. Trust me, Togadia's issue would die out in a matter of days. BJP & RSS folks have already brought up the fact that Togadia is in a Z+ category security list. So even if Togadia feels other wise, knocking him out would not be easy.

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