The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:59 am

Karthik wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:22 am
Do BJP and NM really deserve to get another term? Certainly NO.
I'd argue against shooting ourselves in the foot but I know fat lot of good that would do. Been there, done that.

Better it is to raise forcefully the issues we have with acts of commission and omission by Modi sarkar among a friendly, PIF audience.

But when it comes to BIF turds, we ought to close ranks rather than let fissues be exploited.

And certainly during voting time, Modi sarkar should, even if less than fully deservingly, get our votes again.

JMTPs and all that. Peace.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:59 am

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Now, extension of RTE to pre-school and secondary as well.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by ashokk » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:54 pm

UP govt moves to curb rampant use of loudspeakers in public places
AGRA: Following an order from Lucknow bench of the Allahabad high court, the UP government on Sunday issued a circular to all district administrations and the police department of the state to remove all unauthorised public address systems installed at religious places. The same would be applicable to loudspeakers used at public places, marriage processions and protest parades of similar kind.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by JohnTitor » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:08 pm

I agree that there are many points of contention with modi and various bjp state governments.

But I don’t think voting congress will achieve anything other than bring back wholesale corruption and undoing of all the good modi has done. Instead, we vote for less than perfect bjp and bide our time for a more Hindutva party/leader to emerge.

In the meantime we need to create pressure to work on things that are important to us like RTE, freeing temples etc

It will happen, just give it time

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by JohnTitor » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:13 pm

Karthik wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:59 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS734thVAAATk-V.jpg

Now, extension of RTE to pre-school and secondary as well.
The other day I read that the 25% subsidy isn’t being provided by the government to schools though the SC has said that it should. Instead the schools are cross subsidising this through the other 75%

I can’t seem to find that article online

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:54 pm

RTE cannot be amended till RS situation improves. It is a constitutional provision. It is one of the brain childs of the INC-Left combine and they will fight it tooth and nail to keep it. Similar with LA bill. However, it is good to keep up the pressure as something to do in future.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:45 pm

Karthik wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:32 am
Chetak saar, nothing of those words is applicable to modi. His cabinet is full of people who suck upto or are hand in gloves with all NGO/BIF/Media etc.

I personally feel terribly betrayed, but looking at twitter, I don't think I am the only person to feel so.
The words are particularly applicable to Modi and specifically only to him.

For every politically risky idea, he is out there, upfront and center, not merely hiding behind facades.

i don't give a rats about the cabinet nor did i mention them.

people are voting for him and not the BJP aholes who refuse to help out.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:46 pm

Sir they are planning to extend it to preschool and secondary school, what RS situation?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:51 pm

Supratik wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:54 pm
RTE cannot be amended till RS situation improves. It is a constitutional provision. It is one of the brain childs of the INC-Left combine and they will fight it tooth and nail to keep it. Similar with LA bill. However, it is good to keep up the pressure as something to do in future.
wait for the right moment.

leave the RTE be.

make it more inclusive. No one can object to that nor can anyone legitimately oppose it

Just extend the same identical provisions of the act to all communities and free education from the grubby and grasping clutches of the greedy minorities.

where exactly in the constitution does it say "minorities"??

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:51 pm

Some form of RTE will be there. I am not a socialist but I am not totally against it as it benefits poorer section. The amendment should specially focus on a level playing field (no minority-majority business) and financial viability.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by geeth » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:55 pm

Karthik wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:22 am
Do BJP and NM really deserve to get another term? Certainly NO.
Did you vote in the last election? If yes, did anyone force to vote for a particular party? If no, next time also, cant you vote for those who have not cheated you..yet?

If you havent voted, why bother? Leave it to those actually go & vote.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by srikumar » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:48 pm

ashokk wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:54 pm
UP govt moves to curb rampant use of loudspeakers in public places
AGRA: Following an order from Lucknow bench of the Allahabad high court, the UP government on Sunday issued a circular to all district administrations and the police department of the state to remove all unauthorised public address systems installed at religious places. The same would be applicable to loudspeakers used at public places, marriage processions and protest parades of similar kind.
This is quite something. A great start...it comes from a Allahabad High Court order (so the h'nable judge(s) had the guts to atleast start addressing the problem that is only getting worse with time). Loud-speakers everywhere in public for reasons a,b,c disturbing everyone, with no recourse to address the issue. Students studying for exams, kids/old people trying to sleep after 10:00 p.m. An enforceable ordinance is needed.

The burden here falls on some specific govt. officials and the police to estimate the sound level and remove offending loud-speakers. Wonder how will this be determined in a moving procession (A religious or a marriage party) i.e. in those cases where the loud-speakers are not attached to a structure/building. Good start nevertheless.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Raju » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:48 pm

NM has successfully broken the growing economy, I am sure given another term be will use his 'genius' to break something else as well. His only success to date has been winning UP elections for his party.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Narasimha » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:08 pm

^ really everyone has forgotten how the economy was in the doldrums post UPA2

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:48 pm

Raju wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:48 pm
NM has successfully broken the growing economy, I am sure given another term be will use his 'genius' to break something else as well. His only success to date has been winning UP elections for his party.
Growing economy, my foot? A few star bucks stores, some back office MS jobs, a miss world here or there are not a growing economy (they are needed of course to keep 'aspiring middle class' like you happy). But in reality such an economy ts a bubble. ModiJi is fixing the economy ground up. And in this there will be short term blips. Demo and GST are structural reforms. Its funny how when politicians don't take tough decisions, they will be criticized by all and sundry for shying away from tough decisions, and when they do take tough decisions like ModiJi, his haters will cite the very decisions he took as cause for short to medium term slowing down which are inevitable when implementing structural reforms.

Winning UP was no mean task. Had BJP lost UP, Pappu and his slaves would have been on the swing, and by now, there would have been calls for ModiJi to resign and hold elections because he "lost people's mandate". Congoons would have made life hell for ModiJi. ModiJi is up against a formidable enemy of internal traitors led by Congoons and their entrenched ecosystem, along with external forces that include a combination of Chinoms, Pakis, and western evangelicals.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:26 am

Raju wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:48 pm
NM has successfully broken the growing economy, I am sure given another term be will use his 'genius' to break something else as well. His only success to date has been winning UP elections for his party.
That's not the only damage is he has done. In terms of results he has been quite lackluster so far and I don't see what he is going to accomplish in the remaining 1-1/2 years he has left.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:51 am

Raju wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:48 pm
NM has successfully broken the growing economy, I am sure given another term be will use his 'genius' to break something else as well. His only success to date has been winning UP elections for his party.
# trollbait

P.S. And quite a laughable attempt too.

P.P.S. However trust our rakshaks (or its Ganrajyees, i.e. Republicans) to fall for it all the same. :)

That said, important to reset narrative based on facts, too. YOu never know which impressionable mind is watching, eh?

The auction mechanism for natural resources (from coal to iron ore to telecom spectrum) is working so well, there's been no news ofany kinda screw-up, backroom dealing, corruption etc at all. Quite a change from the halcyon days of UPA era daily plunder.

The environment ministry is working as it should - evaluating and clearing project proposals rather than act as rent-seeking, nay brazenly extortionary, bottle-neck. Oh, which also incidentally lead to a historic high of NPA pile-ups in our banking system.

The use of tech to verify and weed-out leakages and corruption at every link on the sarkari service-delivery chain (from DBT to aadhaar to ujjwala to PDS reform etc) to subsidy reform gets nary a peep from those who want the mainorities (such as our cutie pie khalistanis) to keep playing on the front foot, among other things.

That said, there've been missteps andstumbles too. Sure. Appointing Jaitley counts as among Modi sarkar's bigger acts of commission. And lack of movement, zero, zilch, on core identity issues of level-playing field as among its biggest acts of omission. Too.

But that story is for another post, another time. Onlee. Peace.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:27 am

Pappu is apparently visiting Baharian to address NRIs there. Wonder whats the script his slaves have given him, and choreographed answers to the expected questions. Should be comical watching his slaves go berserk post his visit.

Meanwhile, YogiJi held a rally in Benglru. Even Lutyen media is reporting that it was well attended. Anyone can confirm?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:12 am

Yogi ji trolling 'em congee tipu-turds in KA...
Yogi Adityanath Verified account @myogiadityanath 12h12 hours ago
Thank you for the welcome @siddaramaiah ji. I heard number of farmers committing suicide in Karnataka was highest in your regime, not to mention the numerous deaths and transfer of honest officers. As UP CM I am working to undo the misery and lawlessness unleashed by your allies.
Heh-able. Onlee.

P.S. Personally, am loving it. Yogi ji is persona non grata for lootyens sickulars precisely because they have no handle to pressurize him with. He's immune to their glamour, clamour, amour, western credentials, international connections yada yada to a degree NM isn't.

And there are sooo many low hanging governance fruits in UP, The Yogi can peacefully pull rabbits out of the sarkari hat once a month for years to come... Sample this, 3 hrs ago from IE:

Uttar Pradesh govt restricts use of loudspeakers at religious, public places (IE)
The Uttar Pradesh government has banned the unauthorised use of loudspeakers and public address systems at religious and public places across the state. Setting January 15 as the deadline for obtaining permission, the government has warned that all such loudspeakers will be removed by January 20.

The move comes after the Lucknow bench of the Allahabad High Court, on December 20, asked the state government whether written permission was obtained from the concerned authorities before loudspeakers or public address systems were installed at religious places like mosques, temples, churches and gurdwaras.
This comes right after action on illegal madarasas, on organized crime, on eve teasing, you name it...

So, The Yogi getting massive (& contagious) response in BJP friendly areas down south (esp KA, but hey he can try Hyd anytime) is no surprise. News of The Yogi's words and deeds, mindset and values has spread far and deep despite the lootyeNGO cabal's best efforts to distort the same.

Jai ho, jai ho, onlee.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by manju » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:23 am

arshyam wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:47 am
Here we go again, one more round of rona-dhona. Sigh.
Agree, some people want to be indulged and appears this forum is the only place to troll..


We should not forget why BRF thread was closed and why we migrated. Not sure why so much rona-dhona and trolling is being tolerated by the admins

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by manju » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:24 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:10 am
The reason why USUK-elitemen and Missionaries helped and continue to help NaMo/RSS win election is because ----
OK bhai, who in your opinion should we vote for in 2019?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by manju » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:28 am

Trilobite wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:26 am
Raju wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:48 pm
NM has successfully broken the growing economy, I am sure given another term be will use his 'genius' to break something else as well. His only success to date has been winning UP elections for his party.
That's not the only damage is he has done. In terms of results he has been quite lackluster so far and I don't see what he is going to accomplish in the remaining 1-1/2 years he has left.
Ayyo rama... so much b!tching... mods.. pls take away the mike from these guys :rotfl:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:03 am

manju wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:23 am
Agree, some people want to be indulged and appears this forum is the only place to troll..
Rich, coming from a know-all who's made a gaand total of 20 bosts thus far on this forum.

But all set out to preach to folks who have taken time and trouble to articulate their thoughts, contribute links, engage, question, present counter-points and what not. Cho nice and peachy. :lol:
We should not forget why BRF thread was closed and why we migrated. Not sure why so much rona-dhona and trolling is being tolerated by the admins
Aah. Enlighten the rest of us then, on the "why". Nobody among us plebians seems to know precisely what happened and why. Keenly awaiting your gyaana-varsha.

P.S. OTOH, if you're just faffing around pretending to know, that's OK too. Would show you're just human and like to be indulged occasionally. Onlee. :rotfl:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:13 am

I think the easiest thing to do is mother hood statements without facts.

Why not give the Budget deficit data from 2005-17. Revenue deficit data. Bank prime lending rates. Year wise Chinese imports from 2004-17. Subsidy Bill outflow. Electricity generation data.

The problem with BIF crowd is they are very short on facts and high on Bombast.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:02 am

manju wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:24 am
MehtaRahulC wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:10 am
The reason why USUK-elitemen and Missionaries helped and continue to help NaMo/RSS win election is because ----
OK bhai, who in your opinion should we vote for in 2019?
Pls msg me on my SM profile for full answer.

Here I will give part of my answer
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IMo, question "whom should I vote for in april-2019" , should be asked only in jan-2019. And imo till then questions should be

(a) "what should I do from jun-2014 to jan-2019 so that one or more TRUE nationalist TRUE secular non-anti-Hindu political electoral parties rise in India" and

(b) "what should I ask OTHERS to do so that one or more TRUE nationalist TRUE secular non-anti-Hindu political electoral parties rise in India"

I will ask these two questions first. And I will answer your question later. I will NOT evade your question.
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Till jan-2019, pls work to publicize law-drafts that can improve India's manufacturing and weapon manufacturing, and reduce difference between strengths of India and USA. Publicize them via newindia.in, twitter, facebook, YT, phamphlets, newspaper advt, by campaigning for election candidates who are promoting these law-drafts and by contesting elections on these law-drafts. And while you do that, keep noticing candidates and parties who are working to publicizing these law-drafts
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As these law-drafts get more noticed by activists and voters across India, they will see that SoMoKe , CoRaAp-leaders and CoRaAp-workers are opposing law-drafts that can improve India, and supporting law-drafts that reduce India/USA strength ratio !! And activists and voters will also notice which candidates and parties are working to publicize these law-drafts. The parties which support goods laws are TRUE nationalist, true secular and non-anti-Hindu. These parties and candidates' visibility will increase as you and more and more activists publicize such law-drafts.

So by jan-2019 , we may be able to have TRUE nationalist, true secular and non-anti-Hindu political electoral alternatives. And that will answer your question, "whom should we vote for may-2019"
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In short, pls dont wait for kalki-4 to come in may-2019 (Modiji is kalki-3, and Raja Hemachandra was kalki-1 and Baji Rao 1 was kalki-2). Pls realize that you are a non-kalki or micro-kalki yourself, and so all 90 crore voters of India and 20 lakh activists of India. Pls start publicizing LAW-DRAFTS that you think will improve India.

In short, do what I have been doing since 1998 :mrgreen:

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