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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:04 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:23 am
Well, Hindus did loose afghanistan (gandhar), pakistan, bangladesh etc. And advance of islamists slowed. But it slowed only after some western help started coming !!! eg Raja Hemchandra (wrongly called as Hemu by p-seculars) got cannons from Portugese and also help from Shia. eg2 Shivaji too had to take help from Shia , eg3 Peshva got assorted help from French (French cannons and all that). And after freedom, we have partially "lost" parts of parts of Asam, parts of NE, parts of West Bengal etc to Bangladeshis and JK too is unstable. Today, Hindus are loosing people to Missionaries and losing sectors of economy to Western elitemen under the garb of "First Develop India (aka FDI)". Today , both islamic and Hindus are now under domination of Missionaries and their masters (namely USUK-elitemen).
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And its not just demographic growth. But more and more Bangladeshies are coming. And large number of dalits / trials and even OBCs are going to Missionaries. Hindu seers like Sant Sri Asaram Bapu and Sant Ram Rahim Gurmeetjee , Sant Rampal etc are falling and so on. So trendline is --- Hindus are loosing and loosing and loosing.
SSundar wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:48 pm

That is why I said good that it isn't just India's war. At some point, the wider population of the world will come together against this menace. Until then, the best defense for India is to shut the borders tightly to prevent anymore illegal immigration and try to modernize the women so they do not become baby producing machines. There are many truly spiritual Hindu Gurus that are fairly successful in spreading the Dharma. A few may fail due to their own shortcomings, but many are still successful.
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There are several economic + religious shadow wars going on in this world. eg In economy, West / China is trying to dominate the world with India included. And in religious sphere, we have
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(1) Hindu vs islamists
(2) Hindu vs Missionaries
(3) Missionaries vs Islamists
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(and also we have (4) Buddhist vs Islamists , (5) Buddhists vs Christians , (6) NO Buddhist vs Hindus and so on).
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Now Missionaries and Hindus are both against Islamists, but Missionaries are also determined to exterminate Hinduism. So Missionaries or their economic masters may assist Hindus against Islamists, but at the same time, Missionaries and their economic will also assist Islamists against Hindus !! And Missionaries will also work to weaken Hindus. So the Missionary vs Islamist fight will benefit Hindus ONLY to a very small extent. And the damage that Missionaries and their economic masters will cause will far exceed the benefit that comes from them.
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The solution is that --- we have to fight on our own. That means "100% made in India , 100% made by Indians" goods from pin to weapons. And complete removal of govt control from temples , 2 child law, stop/expel bangladeshi infiltrators, allow in refugees and so on. Whatever we do on own will save us from BOTH islamists and Missionaries. But whatever aid we get from West to fight against Islamists will NOT help us and in fact damage us in fight against Missionaries

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:21 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:23 am
Many people believe that Hindus "survived" ismalist onslaught, and that too on their own strength and not from help from west. Well, Hindus did loose afghanistan (gandhar), pakistan, bangladesh etc. And advance of islamists slowed. But it slowed only after some western help started coming !!! eg Raja Hemchandra (wrongly called as Hemu by p-seculars) got cannons from Portugese and also help from Shia. eg2 Shivaji too had to take help from Shia , eg3 Peshva got assorted help from French (French cannons and all that).
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And its not just demographic growth. But more and more Bangladeshies are coming. And large number of dalits / trials and even OBCs are going to Missionaries. Hindu seers like Sant Sri Asaram Bapu and Sant Ram Rahim Gurmeetjee , Sant Rampal etc are falling and so on. So trendline is --- Hindus are loosing and loosing and loosing
tantrik wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:03 pm
Mehta ji, please share the DRAFT of the LEGISLATION that you have written to tackle this. PERMANENTLY.
Say we find a solution i.e. we print laws etc that will strengthen us. Now some foreign countries may print better law-drafts in future. And that will make them stronger. What I mean is --- I see no PERMANENT solution
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The solution I propose for now is
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(1) Removing govt control over temples and quasi govt control over temples (quasi govt control is when leaders in govt threaten temple trustees to make one of the leaders or their workers as trustee, and if trustee doesnt obey then the leaders can use govt power against trustees). Draft at https://www.facebook.com/mehtarahulc/po ... 5724996922 and https://www.facebook.com/mehtarahulc/po ... 2816111922
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(2) Two child law - draft at https://www.facebook.com/mehtarahulc/po ... 6605436922
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(3) Law to stop / expel Bangldeshis and allowing in refugees - draft at https://www.facebook.com/mehtarahulc/po ... 5766456922
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And we also need laws to improve economy. There is along list --- links to some law-drafts are at https://www.facebook.com/mehtarahulc/po ... 7555946922
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The strength of Missionaries is due to economic strength of people of West. People in west are more time productive than us i.e. in lesser time, they can produce more goods and services than us. Their higher productivity is due to their general police, courts, administrative, tax laws. Imo, till we get such or better laws in India in courts, police, tax etc, productivity of us Indians will remain low. And so Missionaries will dominate

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:44 am

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Kerala got India Today's Best Big State Award in Governance category from Shri gadkari, Well done Kerala and CPI.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:16 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:04 am
And large number of dalits / trials and even OBCs are going to Missionaries.
Hinduism needs option of "inter caste conversion", if the Dalits and the OBC's are allowed to convert to upper caste then they may not find these missionaries so attractive. Afterall fewer upper caste hindus convert.

Otherwise hindus will continue to be divided on caste basis and continue to lose.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:59 am

Karthik wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:44 am
Kerala got India Today's Best Big State Award in Governance category from Shri gadkari, Well done Kerala and CPI(M).
Minor correction made in bold. Good to see this award being given to KL. At the same time.
  • A business tycoon who was the minister (in a government of the proletariat/poor) for the state transport has just resigned, after the state government officials themselves finding that he had done massive land (and lake) encroachments. This is the "third wicket down" for the present ministry. The minister is an X'ian business man.
  • Another business man who is an MLA (in a government of the proletariat/poor), may have to resign as the Income Tax Dept. has prima facie found him to be a tax dodger. Even his affidavit filed to EC is having incorrect information. This MLA is from the peaceful community, from a very peaceful district.
  • The SDPI (pro-Islamic outfit), gave a severe thrashing to the CPI cadre in Southern Kerala yesterday. Due to "secularism" the CPI(M)+CPI combo (or the state government) cannot openly admit that Islamic fanatics are now actively "punching above their weight" in the state.
Trilobite wrote:
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Hinduism needs option of "inter caste conversion", if the Dalits and the OBC's are allowed to convert to upper caste then they may not find these missionaries so attractive. Afterall fewer upper caste hindus convert
That would be pretty much admitting that caste system is basically a hierarchy, with Brahmins always on top (pun intended). Conversions mainly are due to poverty, and targeting people who are confused and find no solace in their existing religion. Because in states like SC/ST converted X'ians have a separate cemetery etc. My gut feeling is that there have been lots of breaking of caste barriers, in the last 20 years. Not due to any government scheme, but due to IT industry etc. Due to these kind of jobs, lots of youth from very many parts of India started working together (and then even living together). Many couples then just go beyond the caste barriers and then decide to get married and settle down. I have seen a Brahmin from Bihar who married a Keralite OBC girl, now living happily (the sad part being if she was an OBC girl from Bihar itself, this marriage may not have happened).

In Kerala, non-Brahmin priests have got appointed in state managed temples, and majority of the people have welcomed that. One major reason being any Brahmin who has some better means of livelihood do not want to get any where near a temple. But for the non-Brahmin boys, this may be seen as some "recognition". On the flip side, many "progressive people" :roll: say that these non-Brahmin priests are essentially doing the Poojas the Brahmin way, and leading a life which is that of a Brahmin (i.e no booze, non-veg food, purity of body & mind maintained etc.).

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:48 am

Sachin wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:59 am
That would be pretty much admitting that caste system is basically a hierarchy, with Brahmins always on top (pun intended). Conversions mainly are due to poverty, and targeting people who are confused and find no solace in their existing religion. Because in states like SC/ST converted X'ians have a separate cemetery etc. My gut feeling is that there have been lots of breaking of caste barriers, in the last 20 years. Not due to any government scheme, but due to IT industry etc. Due to these kind of jobs, lots of youth from very many parts of India started working together (and then even living together). Many couples then just go beyond the caste barriers and then decide to get married and settle down. I have seen a Brahmin from Bihar who married a Keralite OBC girl, now living happily (the sad part being if she was an OBC girl from Bihar itself, this marriage may not have happened).

In Kerala, non-Brahmin priests have got appointed in state managed temples, and majority of the people have welcomed that. One major reason being any Brahmin who has some better means of livelihood do not want to get any where near a temple. But for the non-Brahmin boys, this may be seen as some "recognition". On the flip side, many "progressive people" :roll: say that these non-Brahmin priests are essentially doing the Poojas the Brahmin way, and leading a life which is that of a Brahmin (i.e no booze, non-veg food, purity of body & mind maintained etc.).
What you said is true, but again, I wonder why every time only brahmins get mentioned in any caste talk? Are they the only or main source and perpetrators of all bad things going on in the society in this regard?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:35 pm

this thread is melting into Hinduism and histrionics ..where as we are supposed to discuss daily political developments such as
-guj elections
-PAAS, Patidar agitation and ground effect
- new schemes and initiatives of Modi govt etc
-Kerala (3 RSS member hacked one dead today)
-Why left liberal thugs vilify Padmavati

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:32 am

^ Kindly bring in such news with links and highlights and excerpts and discussions points, saar. Would be great to have mutiple active contributors to what is even otherwise a spicy dhaga indeed.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:54 am

Trust suave Chidu to say anything with a straight face, gravitas and poise. Only.

Moody’s raised India’s rating based mainly on UPA govt’s work: Chidambaram (HT)

P.S. Heh.

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Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:02 am

BJP to target inividual voters in KA with 10,000 whatsapp message groups (TNIE)
BENGALURU: Taking a cue from the recent Uttar Pradesh election, BJP Karnataka IT cell has created 7,000 WhatsApp groups targeting individual voters. It plans to create at least 10,000 groups in the coming days.

Following BJP national president Amit Shah’s recent visit to Karnataka, the party state unit’s IT cell created a WhatsApp group of some volunteers. These volunteers, in turn, created more such groups and messages sent from the IT cell are forwarded to the numerous groups.

The messages include the Prime Minister’s speeches, audio clips of BJP leaders, information on the pro-people initiatives of the Union government, anti-people moves of the Siddaramaiah government, etc. The party hopes to reach out to a vast number of people and mould public opinion.
At least they are doing something. But leak such news sirjee? And let the oppn gain intell? Unless it is a feint? Maybe something newer and shnier as a campaign tactic is in the works this time, hain jee??
Speaking to Express, Balaji Srinivas, state convener of the BJP social media cell, said as of now they have 7,000 WhatsApp groups for this purpose. “This worked well in the Uttar Pradesh elections. The same strategy is being used in the Gujarat assembly election. Basically, we want more people to know about the party and government initiatives,’’ he said.

Balaji said they have a central team which posts personalised messages and these are shared with the other groups by the volunteers. “We want to have at least 10,000 groups or even more,” he said. To a question on the number of participants in each group, he said WhatsApp allows a maximum of 250 people in a group. Even if there are 200 members, 1.4 lakh people can be reached, he said.

Political scientist Prof Sandeep Shastri said this is part of BJP’s strategy to have multiple levels of public outreach. Connecting with people through WhatsApp has great potential and the party can reach out to the tech-savvy sections of society, he felt.
Hope they have plans to reach not just the smartphone set but also the much-larger and more-likely-to-vote feature phone user base. These folks also would be prime beneficiaries of various GoI schemes. Only.

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Post by Rahul M » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:49 am

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by BhairavP » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:02 am

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/cong ... 93092.html

PAAS - Congress fights. This is going to be fun - how is the Congress going to reconcile the big egos of the Hardik-Alpesh-Jignesh (HAJ) trio with their own ticket seekers? PAAS is already asking for more seats, Congress is refusing to buckle, they're all fighting and Hardik may call off his alliance with the Congress.

Fun times onlee in GJ.

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Post by Yagnasri » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:06 am

Hari Seldon wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:54 am
Trust suave Chidu to say anything with a straight face, gravitas and poise. Only.

Moody’s raised India’s rating based mainly on UPA govt’s work: Chidambaram (HT)

P.S. Heh.
:)) :)) :)) :)) :))

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:06 am

Hari Seldon wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:02 am
BJP to target inividual voters in KA with 10,000 whatsapp message groups (TNIE)

This is mostly BS, the INC and Lefties like to talk of BJP troll army, but it is they with deep pockets who run these social media campaigns, the INC has has a far better social media strategy with money invested.

It is called playing the victim card and to tell voters don't believe anti INC stuff however true it may be.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:38 pm

where is Padmavati issue being discussed. It has snowballed into massive storm.
Left liberals are calling
-Padmavati a fictional character (Javed Akhtar) when Amir Khusro has documented her in history
-why Padmavati was wrong in committing Jhauhar but should have accepted the life over honour (becoming sex slave)
-Rajputs were cowards and lost battles to Mughals one after another hence not worthy of respect

it has come to light Karni sena chief is Congressi-anti Vasundhara -Karni sena was formed on Anti Bjp Plank -The chief contested 2008 elections on Congress ticket,lost, 2014 LS elec on BSP ticket-media not disclosing this

interestingly
CM MP SR Chauhan has banned film in his state
CM Punjab has opposed the film saying sentiments can't be hurt
INC so far has kept mum realising Guj election on stakes but their media minions are on full throttle.
V Raje has asked a team to review film once released

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Post by Indrad » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:50 pm

News18‏
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@CNNnews18
#BREAKING -- Show cause notice issued by BJP to Haryana BJP media coordinator for threatening the #Padmavati cast. He had announced Rs 10 crores bounty to behead @deepikapadukone, Sanjay Leela Bhansali

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Post by Karthik » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:52 pm

Indrad wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:38 pm
where is Padmavati issue being discussed. It has snowballed into massive storm.
Left liberals are calling
-Padmavati a fictional character (Javed Akhtar) when Amir Khusro has documented her in history
-why Padmavati was wrong in committing Jhauhar but should have accepted the life over honour (becoming sex slave)
-Rajputs were cowards and lost battles to Mughals one after another hence not worthy of respect

it has come to light Karni sena chief is Congressi-anti Vasundhara -Karni sena was formed on Anti Bjp Plank -The chief contested 2008 elections on Congress ticket,lost, 2014 LS elec on BSP ticket-media not disclosing this

interestingly
CM MP SR Chauhan has banned film in his state
CM Punjab has opposed the film saying sentiments can't be hurt
INC so far has kept mum realising Guj election on stakes but their media minions are on full throttle.
V Raje has asked a team to review film once released
Anything from Yogi yet?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:54 pm

in gujarat
-Raga refused to visit any mosque
-cong and PAAS are throat of each other re seats, cong offices getting sacked
-Hardik's 4 CDs out, most contentious is dated one immediately after his tonsured head cos he got head shaved after patidar died in reservation agitation.

current assessment is that except North Guj & Patidars BJP doesn;t have much to fear. Well consolidated elsewhere

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Post by Sachin » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:29 pm

Indrad wrote:-Raga refused to visit any mosque
RaGa's ghar wapsi should be also used for further use. Either to prove that Congress is playing a soft-Hindutwa card (minority communities, beware!) or if he goes back to the appeasement way of life, use it to say that his Hindu religion show was all false (majority community, beware!)
-Hardik's 4 CDs out, most contentious is dated one immediately after his tonsured head cos he got head shaved after patidar died in reservation agitation.
It may be better if BJP does not kind of just focus on these CDs, but use the plank of "good governance". Discrediting people using the p-orn clips should not be an official party action. Hardik Patel himself says that there are around 50 such clips, in which either he or his close friends have given a stellar performance :lol: :roll:. Looks like for this chap Patidaar agitation was actually an agitation to be done in the bed.

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Post by Supratik » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:14 pm

It is fake. The components of Congress have not altered.

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Post by Trilobite » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:18 pm

Indrad wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:38 pm
where is Padmavati issue being discussed. It has snowballed into massive storm.
Left liberals are calling
-Padmavati a fictional character (Javed Akhtar) when Amir Khusro has documented her in history
I think you are confusing Jayasi with Khusro. Khusro never wrote anything about Padmini. Jayasi wrote his epic Padmavat in 1540, which is fictional sufi poetry.

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Post by Kabir » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:45 pm

The main question here is not about fiction or non fiction but about using the story of a muslim invader wanting to conquer a Hindu Kshatriya queen. If Padmini was a muslim, SLB would have never even imagined making a film on her. Portraying Padmini's sacrifice and defiance against islamic tyranny as something else is nothing short of blasphemy in the true sense. In Bharat everyone is free to express their views and practice what they want to but the underlying code is - never hurt sentiments of others as this tantamounts to mischief. SLB's film wouldn't have been less charismatic even if he showed the true story of Padmavati's courage and Jouhar. The modern form of jouhar is the poor Syrian girls wanting to commit suicide in the face of ISIS sex slavery. This is similar to a 'creative' art director in future deciding to make a film on ISIS sex slaves as a story of romance.

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Post by Kabir » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:45 pm

The main question here is not about fiction or non fiction but about using the story of a muslim invader wanting to conquer a Hindu Kshatriya queen. If Padmini was a muslim, SLB would have never even imagined making a film on her. Portraying Padmini's sacrifice and defiance against islamic tyranny as something else is nothing short of blasphemy in the true sense. In Bharat everyone is free to express their views and practice what they want to but the underlying code is - never hurt sentiments of others as this tantamounts to mischief. SLB's film wouldn't have been less charismatic even if he showed the true story of Padmavati's courage and Jouhar. The modern form of jouhar is the poor Syrian girls wanting to commit suicide in the face of ISIS sex slavery. This is similar to a 'creative' art director in future deciding to make a film on ISIS sex slaves as a story of romance.

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Post by Kabir » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:45 pm

The main question here is not about fiction or non fiction but about using the story of a muslim invader wanting to conquer a Hindu Kshatriya queen. If Padmini was a muslim, SLB would have never even imagined making a film on her. Portraying Padmini's sacrifice and defiance against islamic tyranny as something else is nothing short of blasphemy in the true sense. In Bharat everyone is free to express their views and practice what they want to but the underlying code is - never hurt sentiments of others as this tantamounts to mischief. SLB's film wouldn't have been less charismatic even if he showed the true story of Padmavati's courage and Jouhar. The modern form of jouhar is the poor Syrian girls wanting to commit suicide in the face of ISIS sex slavery. This is similar to a 'creative' art director in future deciding to make a film on ISIS sex slaves as a story of romance.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rudradev » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:16 pm

Professor Vamsee Juluri comes out with a legitimate, well-argued criticism of Modi Sarkar that highlights exactly what it has succeeded, and what it has failed to do for Dharmic interests thus far.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59d8 ... 9aa809/amp


Last Man with a Lightbulb and Not a Word to Speak to His Soul: Why Hindus are Losing the Story War
10/07/2017 03:52 am ET Updated Oct 07, 2017

Despite the leadership of a tremendously selfless, intelligent and inspiring human being as Prime Minister, things remain ominous for India.

The promise of a civilizational vision that would channel “development” away from its monstrous eco-destructive form into a Swaraj and Antyodaya-informed one, might not deserve to be given up on just yet, but what is being lost is far more serious than one might understand today.

Narendra Modi’s actions resonate with Indians at many levels. He is seen as honest, selfless, a “fakir,” even, and his policies seem staunchly oriented towards empowering the poor.

But the question to consider is this: are the masses of India going to find the dignity and happiness (or self-recognition as divine-beings, as nara-narayana, as Upadhyaya might put it), if their sense of self is so relentlessly poisoned by a toxic propaganda climate that leaves them rootless, sightless, and indeed, bereft of their soul itself? How long will freedom last if all people find on their phones is calculated calumny against their thought, their traditions, and their identity itself?

If the present state of affairs continues unchanged, we will have a situation where “Nara” is saved, somewhat, but the lofty ideal of “Narayana” is lost forever. I doubt at all that if that is what a visionary like Modiji wants, but without taking stock of what is commonly called the “narrative” battle, we are looking at a nation of unhappy and cluelessly destructive people in two generations who will remain Indian, Hindu, Muslim, Christian, whatever they are only in blindly ideological terms rather than through a rich experience of all of our culture and its eternal promise.

This is not an alarmist call about how Hindus or Hinduism are going to vanish, nor a charge of betrayal against the BJP for betraying its Hindu base. There is real concern about the future of Hindu sovereignty, for sure, and there are criticisms being made by many concerned Hindus that the BJP tends to speak for Hindus only in opposition, and then settles down to ruling as a status quo, or even wannabe-secular dispensation. I believe that this criticism is slightly less appropriate with the present government, whose members seem to embody a balance of constitutional professionalism with personal piety and respect for Hindu sensibilities.

However, there is one glaring front on which the present leadership remains profoundly stunted, and that is in helping elevate the Hindu viewpoint to a place of legitimacy in the Indian public sphere. That, they simply do not seem to know how to do. Despite all the talk of digital media and participatory democracy, the BJP suffers from a serious absence of understanding of the terrain on which a “narrative” battle is conducted. This is not a battle for votes. That, the present leadership seems very good at doing. The people are broadly with Modi, there is no doubt. But as the last few years have shown, what we might see going forward is the strange scenario where a dedicated Hindu leadership continues to rule the country, and maybe even rule it sincerely, but get used to watching on indifferently as the soul of its people gets viciously eviscerated by a superior narrative machine that permanently keeps the Hindu grievance marginalized, discredited, and disreputable.

And the problem with the toxic media and academic narrative is that it delegitimizes not only a Hindu sense of grievance, political Hinduism as it were, but even existential Hinduism. This has been the fundamental squeeze tightening around Hindus for decades now; anything short of extreme loathing against Hinduism is dismissed as Hindu extremism, and virulent anti-Hindu falsehood elevated as secular, scientific, knowledge of Hinduism.

The people have seen through that no doubt. They participate in online forums, and social media has become a vibrant place for challenging the old giants. There is a movement going on, for sure. But, as I wrote recently in The Organiser, a movement will also need to engage and win over a place for itself in the establishment as well. It cannot remain a movement forever. It will be like running on a treadmill and shouting fire instead of actually reaching the place and putting it out. This is not a good thing at all. As time passes, Hindus will be struggling more and more to simply hold on to the narrative ground, not to mention literal ground, being eroded from under them. The possibility of a Hindu place in the world alongside others, will continue to weaken. Eighty percent of Indians will always be condemned to be talked about, talked over, and left to struggle to find the dignity that is granted so easily to the grievances of others in the world today.

Hindu Activism and Career Prospects

I recently asked Hindu activists among my Facebook friends two questions; one on the promise of a Hindu awareness being awakened in the next generation, and the other on whether Hindu activism takes a toll on peoples’ health (as I have seen happen elsewhere). Several responses, interestingly enough had to do with an unexpected angle; that Hindu activism seriously harms career prospects. These are not academics! It is stunning to see that being associated with what in any other context would be called a human rights or multicultural issue gets you discredited like this. This is an example of what I mean by running on a treadmill. Unless the concerns that animate the movement also find their way into the institutions, namely media and academia, Hindus with a conscience will remain forever fearful, or forever antagonistic to others, in order to have their voice heard.

The institutionalization of narratives is something that has to be done, and unfortunately, there is little expertise outside the institutions (which are largely hostile) to do this successfully. At least two major efforts that I know of by various organizations and leaders to engage with “narrative building” have been unsuccessful, and sometimes profoundly counterproductive, creating unnecessary baggage and exposing the movement to easy dismissal or demonization. These are all still voluntary efforts, but we are yet to see how a government nominally in power will deal with these issues. Clearly, it knows there is a constituency that expects to see changes in the discourse, at the very least, in education.

Wrong Ways to “Change the Narrative”

But how the government will deal with this remains to be seen. So far, one can note three tendencies:

One, to ignore the whole narrative front. After all, the longer the big media and academic elites continue their increasingly mendacious attacks on Hindus, the more isolated they become from the majority of Indians, who will in turn strengthen the political base of the party.

Two, to reach out to opponents on the assumption that the BJP is now the grand new party and must be inclusive and “coopt” everyone (though the “coopting” attempts seems like genuflecting and are often brashly rebuffed). This step is usually accompanied by an embarrassed silencing and distancing of sympathetic voices, as if it’s infra dig to still be seen with Hindus.

Three, to dismiss opponents as “antinationals” and “presstitutes” and push the buttons of government force wherever possible to enforce top-down, statist solutions like compulsory national anthem singing on campuses, regurgitation of supposedly patriotic content, and so on.

All three approaches are seriously immature and flawed, in my view. One cannot expect a movement to grow on resentment after coming to power; the other side’s resentment will always be stronger (it’s theory that India is now experiencing fascism sounds ever more credible in its circles, small but influential as they are), and the project can collapse in a moment. Indians are deeply aspirational at the moment, and even if the vast majority of small town working and lower middle classes oppose the elites of media and academia today, they will eventually be forced to buy into a fashionable soft Hinduphobia as a marker of upward mobility. This is for the simple reason that there are careers and paths to advancement galore in bashing Hinduism and India. There are none at all, not in media and academia at last, in defending them. This is where he hits the nail on the head. Today the poor and lower-middle classes love Modi. Tomorrow, the minute they (or their children) come out with postgraduate degrees and try to gain acceptance with the air-conditioned, glass-walled, marble-floored corridors of prestigious institutions... whether in business, law, media, or any other sector... the price for their acceptance by the "cosmopolitan elite" who control the gates of those institutions will be their willingness to bash Dharmic values and society. The same people who Nehru-dienasty KEPT poor, whom Modi is helping to get wealthier, will become the Neo-Nehruvians when they are finally rich. THAT is why the narrative must go... simply having a Modi doing a great job of governance publicly, while practicing his dharma in private, is not enough.

And as for top-down solutions like forcing new curricula and patriotic practices in campuses, those are all things that would breed only even more resentment, and further prove to the young that somehow all that the media elites are saying about fascism in India are coming true. A narrative battle has to be won by entering the mind of the opponent, not by trying to cap it. For that, the government has to learn from the movement that helped put it there, and engage with the establishment confidently, civilly, and on the terms set by its constituency. The establishment knows only too well that this is a huge weakness in the otherwise victorious political machine of the BJP today. It tested the waters mildly with the Maharashtra “meat ban” issue in early 2015, escalated it to strong levels with the “intolerance” protests, and all but staged a kangaroo court and lynch mob execution of anyone with the word “Hindu” in their identities a few weeks ago for the completely unrelated crime of a journalist’s murder.

The establishment is strong, not simply because it is funded by some foreign hand, as many in the Hindu movement think, but simply because it is doing its job. Journalists, professors, writers, activists, have all been studying, teaching, advocating one simple thing for two decades now, and they all believe in it completely. It does not matter at all that their theories are being proved wrong by reality. They have all the channels they need to keep their influence going forever, and the only way to change it is to either spend the serious money needed to create parallel channels in education and media, or to figure out how to defeat the establishment on grounds appropriate to a narrative battle: through debate, reason, and sheer truth-force.

The movement has enough energy to perhaps grow to this stage, but this can happen only if the leadership transforms its understanding of the narrative battlefield and stops treating the movement cynically. The movement is challenged as it is functioning without institutions and resources to fight the massive propaganda war raging against it. For the government to become an albatross on the neck of its supporters through sheer ineptitude is inexcusable, and unbecoming of the promise its leaders have offered after decades or even centuries of despair.

The World and its Story-Forces

If India is to be truly recovered, then a serious effort has to commence to rescue its story about itself. One billion people with a strong, unbroken sense of spirit and past, and a powerful universalist yearning to steer the planet off its looming ecological catastrophe should not be dummified any longer. The battle for the world-story is on, and right now, we are not even on the margins of it. As story-forces, only three narratives are holding sway right now: (1) Islam (2) the nominally secular-liberal globalization order (3) what we might broadly call MAGA, a backlash to the former drawing on but not identical to Western Christianity (China is a force, but is not a story-force as such on the same scale).

India does not have a story or force at the moment, but it has to invest in one. Otherwise, the last man in India might still get a light bulb, toilet and cell phone, but will have nothing at all in his hands or before his eyes to reflect his spiritual and cultural ambitions in. Nara cannot become Narayana without the force of a story to tell him it can be so.



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