The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Yagnasri » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:14 am

So SC caused crores of rupees of loss to the business people and violated rights of Hindus without any basis.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:26 am

On the Triple Talaq case...
Centre may amend IPC to make triple talaq criminal offence......
The government is planning to introduce a new sub-section, 497A. Section 497 IPC deals with Adultery.
Hari Seldon wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:37 am
Meanwhile, relentless judicial assault on Yindoo festivals continues unabated.
No stage, loudspeaker at Chhath Puja ground: Delhi High Court (IE)
How ever noble the intentions are; Hon.SC seems to be walking on a path which would essential undermine its own credibility. Hon.SC now did a U turn on the "National Anthem @ Movie houses" issue.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:24 am

Yagnasri wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:14 am
So SC caused crores of rupees of loss to the business people and violated rights of Hindus without any basis.
yup. and whatcha gonna do about it. kaun kya ukhaad lega?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Yagnasri » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:43 am

Now like that. If someone wants to play politics they will pay for it one way or another for sure. The very fact that SC judge has to say that he is not anti-Hindu in open court tell a lot about the real pressure on them and they know what they have done. That is the first step. Next time when they hear something on Jellikattu I am sure they will know that they will be examined more closely by Hindus.

Lose of face to the SC is very bad in long run but SC brought this on to itself.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:51 am

Yagnasri wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:43 am
Now like that. If someone wants to play politics they will pay for it one way or another for sure. The very fact that SC judge has to say that he is not anti-Hindu in open court tell a lot about the real pressure on them and they know what they have done. That is the first step. Next time when they hear something on Jellikattu I am sure they will know that they will be examined more closely by Hindus.

Lose of face to the SC is very bad in long run but SC brought this on to itself.
I understand saar. Seems the jallikattu 'verdict' was passed by one HC juj bhanumati who isn't hindu and who's now made it to SC.

ON twitter I now hear that SC will hear a PIL on 'excessive' offerings being made at some jyotilings. So judas will decide on quantity of prasad offerings too at our temples, seems like.

Still, it will be a very long way to go before the judiciary is brought to heel. Too long I fear. By then irrevocable damage will have been done. Perhaps.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:11 am

Hari Seldon wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:51 am
ON twitter I now hear that SC will hear a PIL on 'excessive' offerings being made at some jyotilings. So judas will decide on quantity of prasad offerings too at our temples, seems like.
In a way this may be a "blessing in disguise". There is no reason in dumping money into temples, if they just remain there and do not get used for any useful purpose for the Hindus. If such offerings have an upper limit, the funds now lying idle would also reduce. They can be channeled to other schemes which benefit the average Hindu out there. A complaint I have heard often (in KL) is that every temple out there is rich with cash, but don't do proportionate level helping work to the average Hindu.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Marten » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:30 am

As long as the State Govts do not dip into these funds, the states will benefit from acts of Hindu Charitable trusts. I'm 100% certain that the PPP model will invoke all manners of criminal activity to enrich themselves from the temple funds. SC should be focusing on how to stop looting of Hindu temple funds by anti-Hindu or atheist parties.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by svenkat » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:31 pm

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 244235.cms
Abdul Karim Telgi, kingpin of fake stamp paper scam, dies aged 56

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:52 pm

Sunanda Pushkar death: Delhi HC junks Subramanian Swamy’s PIL, calls it ‘political interest litigation’
Sunanda Pushkar death case: Central government and Delhi Police told HC that they don't subscribe to the views expressed by Subramanian Swamy that probe in the case has been influenced by Shashi Tharoor. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... n-4907185/

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:42 am

Temple money can be directed to a central bank exclusively for certain purposes such as education etc. Like how one temple in Gj helped with the sarovar dam project. I don't think anyone will object if the money is routed to such dedicated funds. It's just that it shouldn't go to state govt coffers and not get accounted for. Every few years or so, the type of fund can change, such as education to infra.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rupesh » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:52 am

Why should temple money be used for infrastructure.?
People don't donate to temple to fund infrastructure.

It should be used exclusively for benefit of devotees, propagating sanathana dharma and teaching Hindu kids about our religion and culture.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:21 am

That's why I said education, by that I don't mean macaulite, more like Chinmaya Vidyalaya. Who do you think is dominating in this arena? Orphanages, schools etc. Need to take care of that.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by manju » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:49 pm

Aditya_V wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:34 pm
I think it is good to show stuff like Mersal can't just get away Scott free. Let XML and INC promise that if ED +CST+TNVAT on any item was more than 28% during 2010 when they had central and state power no one from thier their parties or families will contest elections for 25 years
Just spoke with an industrialists in Hubballi, KA. He was all ga ga over gst. says he is paying less tax, less paper work, and he says he can claim more things as expense.. for example a car he purchases recently (which he could not have in the past>..)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:54 pm

Assam security being beefed up on eve of NRC update. Hope all states outside are keeping a watch on the illegal population moving there. I hope HBS statement of 5.5 million illegals is correct.

http://indianexpress.com/article/north- ... r-4908409/

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:26 pm

While everything is going this peace talks in Kashmir Valley stuff is fully BS. BJP and Rajnath SIngh and Modi are wrong on this.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by sbajwa » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:18 pm

Never understood to this date, how illegal Bangladeshis can get Aadhar and Passport but not legal citizens of India!!!
The maid that works at my mother's house in India (named Aarti)., was born in Mohali of immigrants from UP. She was married when she turned 15 years old., her husband made his own Aadhar card but not his wife's. One of my goals is to make her Aadhar card., problem is that without birth certificates or any other documents it is very difficult to make Aadhar Card., she does not even have a cell phone (requirement for Aadhar card as a SMS message when the card is approved)

The normal educated folks should help the poor uneducated hard working folks. If you do not have any documents all you need to do is

1. Create affidavit with your expected date of birth., place of birth., parents name, etc.
2. Get that affidavit signed by a gazetted officer.
3. Go to the Suvidha center and get all the work done. (You will need to give your cell phone number)
4. Once you get the SMS from GOI., go to a photo copy shop and ask them to print and laminate Aadhar card (make 2-3 copies).

There are vast uneducated illiterate people who need help with Aadhar Card

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by sbajwa » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:28 pm

by Rupesh
Why should temple money be used for infrastructure.?
People don't donate to temple to fund infrastructure.

It should be used exclusively for benefit of devotees, propagating sanathana dharma and teaching Hindu kids about our religion and culture.
Traditionally temples have had a place for travelers to stay, a mini dispensary or hospital , a school for children, etc.
So! Temples instead of just pujas have always been a place for like minded people to come together (Sangat) and improve society.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SRoy » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:55 pm

sbajwa wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:18 pm
Never understood to this date, how illegal Bangladeshis can get Aadhar and Passport but not legal citizens of India!!!
The maid that works at my mother's house in India (named Aarti)., was born in Mohali of immigrants from UP. She was married when she turned 15 years old., her husband made his own Aadhar card but not his wife's. One of my goals is to make her Aadhar card., problem is that without birth certificates or any other documents it is very difficult to make Aadhar Card., she does not even have a cell phone (requirement for Aadhar card as a SMS message when the card is approved)

The normal educated folks should help the poor uneducated hard working folks. If you do not have any documents all you need to do is

1. Create affidavit with your expected date of birth., place of birth., parents name, etc.
2. Get that affidavit signed by a gazetted officer.
3. Go to the Suvidha center and get all the work done. (You will need to give your cell phone number)
4. Once you get the SMS from GOI., go to a photo copy shop and ask them to print and laminate Aadhar card (make 2-3 copies).

There are vast uneducated illiterate people who need help with Aadhar Card
And in future you would need an Aadhar card for a cell phone?

That maid is stuck in a chicken or egg situation. Aadhar card or cell phone.
But strictly speaking Aadhar does not require a cell phone, but the enrolling agencies will shoo you away if you don't have one.

This govt. has crossed all limits when it comes to bureaucratic tyranny.

Next time vote in someone that knows how to keep bureaucrats in line.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by sbajwa » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:40 pm

by sRoy
And in future you would need an Aadhar card for a cell phone?

That maid is stuck in a chicken or egg situation. Aadhar card or cell phone.
But strictly speaking Aadhar does not require a cell phone, but the enrolling agencies will shoo you away if you don't have one.

This govt. has crossed all limits when it comes to bureaucratic tyranny.

Next time vote in someone that knows how to keep bureaucrats in line.
Suvidha centers have been outsourced to people. Suvidha Centers in big cities are being run by rich powerful people (owning multiple). and they demand bribes, while a Suvidha center somewhere in a small village is run by a self employed person of the same village. So! if a poor uneducated person goes to village he/she does not need to bribe but pay only the required fee (Rs 50) of the Aadhar card.

I think Aadhar card should have been created with a big exercise (like demonitization)., with Election commission of India along with Census department. Officials go door to door to assign Aadhar numbers and collect bio-metrics then people go to website to print their Aadhar card and laminate it., each state at a time.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Singha » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:48 am

IBNlive excerpt

PALONGKHALI, BANGLADESH:
HIGHLIGHTS
Planning voluntary sterilisation in camps, have distributed condoms
Mulling to launch vasectomies for Rohingya men, tubectomies for women
Rohingya refugees say large family would help them survive in camps
Bangladesh is planning to introduce voluntary sterilisation in its overcrowded Rohingya camps, where nearly a million refugees are fighting for space, after efforts to encourage birth control failed.

More than 600,000 Rohingya have arrived in Bangladesh since a military crackdown in neighbouring Myanmar in August triggered an exodus, straining resources in the impoverished country.

The latest arrivals have joined hundreds of thousands of Rohingya refugees who fled in earlier waves from Myanmar's Rakhine state, where the stateless Muslim minority has endured decades of persecution.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Singha » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:51 am

excerpt from the same one

Pintu Kanti Bhattacharjee, who heads the family planning service in the district of Cox's Bazar where the camps are based, said there was little awareness of birth control among the Rohingya.

"The whole community has been deliberately left behind," he told AFP, citing a lack of education in Myanmar, where the Rohingya are viewed as illegal immigrants and denied access to many services.

Bhattacharjee said large families were the norm in the camps, where some parents had up to 19 children and many Rohingya men have more than one wife. :twisted:

District family planning authorities have launched a drive to provide contraception, but say they have so far managed to distribute just 549 packets of condoms among the refugees, who are reluctant to use them. :twisted:
They have asked the government to approve a plan to launch vasectomies for Rohingya men and tubectomies for women, Bhattacharjee told AFP.

But they are likely to face an uphill struggle.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Singha » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:54 am

this has generally been the scene among the BDeshi migrants in assam also. they have demographically taken over the western part of assam and made a successful entry into politics also via AIUDF type formations. the son of one such 'leader' who came across in 1971 is now the MLA from my mothers constituency, a scant 50km from barpeta one of the cultural heartland nodes of the state. barpeta which has one of the holiest shrines in the region and a seat of learning is SURROUNDED on all sides by riverine tracts and BD encroached wetlands and farms where the blue checked lungi rules the roost.

assamese villages have depopulated as all younger generation migrated to towns and to outside the state also. the hawks are watching as people age out and will take over these lands also, first as sharecroppers and rented labour, later as the new owners!!

what i could not understand is how can country like BD with less land and highest pop density in the WORLD feed and support this huge population that kept on growing unbounded from fertile wombs ? its soil and rivers must be incredibly fertile to support 200 mil people !!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by kvjayan » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:11 pm

A very good tweet. Exposes the dubious nature of the debate.
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gM NAyar‏
@gMNAyar1

Replying to @mediacrooks @rajnathsingh @narendramodi

What is Kashmir Envoy? Is there a Gujarat, MH, Rajasthan envoy?

2:04 AM - 28 Oct 2017

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by svenkat » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:29 pm

AIADMK in fresh factional war over Thevar gold armour
Caste and intraparty politics were on display on Friday when deputy chief minister O Panneerselvam and supporters of AIADMK factional leader T T V Dhinakaran confronted each other in their bid to stake claim to the gold armour kept in the safety locker of the Madurai branch of Bank of India. The armour is taken out every year during Pasumpon Muthuramalinga Thevar's birth and death anniversary observed from October 28 to 30.With the AIADMK in disarray , the big question is who would sign as the party treasurer.Both OPS and TTV belong to the thevar (backward) caste and gaining possession of the armour would mean a symbolic victory in the ongoing fight to regain control of the AIADMK and its symbol. It would also amount to a reassertion of their clout within the community , dominant in many constituencies in the southern districts.he armour was donated by Jayalalithaa in 2014 to adorn the statue of the iconic caste leader in Pasumpon.
Jayalalithaa had, in the year 2007, replaced Dhinakaran with Panneerselvam as AIADMK treasurer. In 2014, the former CM, in a letter to the bank, authorized her then trusted lieutenant OPS to operate the joint account and the vault, along with the caretaker of Pasumpon Thevar Ninaivalayam (Pasumpon Thevar Memorial), who is Muthuramalingam's heir."OPS is keen to get the strong backing of his community and it is crucial to him in the power struggle in the ruling camp as well," said a senior minister and a close associate of chief minister Edappadi K Palaniswami.
On Friday , Panneerselvam visited the bank with four ministers and ten MLAs in tow, all belonging to the thevar community . The TTV camp, led by the faction's presidium chairman K Anbalagan and party organising sec retary R Samy along with advocates gained access to the bank from the rear.
"They (OPS camp) even came with garlands of flowers to take the armour. But, we stopped them. How can the traitors lay their hands on the armour gifted by our leader at the behest of our Chinnamma (V K Sasikala)?" asked Samy .
Apparently , TTV held discussions with legal experts and Sasikala for three days before sending a communication to the bank, authorizing only the heirs of Muthuramalingam to accept the armour. The jailed leader had earlier authorized the faction's treasurer and her relative M Rengasamy .
"I was the one who paid advance (to the craftsmen who made the armour) and was in touch with them until it was completed. They (TTV camp) don't have any documents," Panneerselvam said.While EPS enjoys support among his kongu vellalar community in the western belt, for OPS it is crucial to flaunt the support of his community in the south in the power games for supremacy in the party.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by KL Dubey » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:09 pm

I dont understand all the angst about aadhaar. It is like a social security number (SSN) in the US. Without an SSN there is very little you can do except live under the radar like the illegal Mexicans do. Bringing India into the modern age is difficult as it is.....the least that educated people can do is to stop cribbing all the time about what the goremint is trying to do.

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