The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

[Indrad]

Interestingly while common man is questioning the judgment not a single elected politician has balls to question. Wonder why? They question army, EC freely though.

congress is lapping up the vacuum: Shiela Dixit has said people of Delhi will be very disappointed with this order of SC

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It's a sentimental religious celebration & people not being allowed to burst crackers will be very disappointed: Sheila Dixit #CrackerDivide

[fanne]

alternate scenario - BJP and its minister speak against Diwali ban mocking SC judgement. people OPENLY DEFY IT. Somewhere Delhi Police has an order (implicit or explicit, implicit based on circumstances) from supposedly central govt to go slow on ban. Some very untoward incident is conjured up during Diwali. Fig of public opinion against mudi is given. SC dismisses Mudi govt.

Very unlikely but possible. These guys (BIF) are going for broke.

[Chandragupta]

No chance of that, fanne saab.

But yes, Congressis & assorted Jehadi chamchas are now making pro-Hindu noises to get some Hindu voters on their side. I can't say it will not happen. People are disappointed with Modi. Let's not pretend otherwise.

[sanjayC]

Interestingly while common man is questioning the judgment not a single elected politician has balls to question. Wonder why? They question army, EC freely though.

Actually in my social network circles, >90% are supporting it and these are proper hindoo fundamental types

These are frogs being boiled slowly

[Hari Seldon]

^+1.

Meanwhile harsh vardhan in action - different days, different thoughts ...

[Yagnasri]

Whose fault is it if INC is taking advantage of the stupidity of local MPs and ministers?

[abhijit]

Whose fault is it if INC is taking advantage of the stupidity of local MPs and ministers?

INC is not that smart. S Dixit is reduced to nothing. AAP on other hand has better ears to ground.

[MehtaRahulC]

RSS-leader (RSS = BJP) Dr Harshvardhan had encouraged (= ordered) RSS-workers to light firecrackers when in may-2014 when he had won MP elections
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Pls see this 4 minute video --- ONLY FOUR MINUTES
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMkXD76OidE
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So RSS-leader Harshvadhan has no issued with firecrackers per se. He is allergic ONLY to lighting firecrackers on Diwali.
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And Harshvadhan projects himself as "gaurdian of Hinduism and Hindus" !!!
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Typical psuedo-hinduvaad that I have seen in ALL RSS-leaders and RSS-workers !!
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Pls see above 4 minute video

[abhijit]

^^^ good catch!!

[Indrad]

After Delhi Chattishgarh bans firecrackers on Diwali.

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SC Diwali order likely to invite civil disobedience. Worrisome that henceforth even legitimate orders of SC maybe treated with disdain

[shravanp]

Delhi's BJP unit is a total write off. They too are freeloaders, riding on Modi wave. True that many across India have done the same, but each BJP leader in his/her capacity past that Modi wave, are creating their own space. However Delhi BJP is behaving like Nirmal Baba.

[Chandragupta]

If we lose our festivals, what will keep our kids hooked on to our culture? Why will they all not get deracinated and succumb to the Christian influenced western media blitz?

[AmoghaVarsha]

No crackers on diwali is on which thread?

Uthistha Bharata

[Yagnasri]

Delhi's BJP unit is a total write off. They too are freeloaders, riding on Modi wave. True that many across India have done the same, but each BJP leader in his/her capacity past that Modi wave, are creating their own space. However Delhi BJP is behaving like Nirmal Baba.

They allowed 15 years of INC rule unchallenged. After that they allowed AAP to form their Gov not once but twice. What can we say.

[abhijit]

^^ and they have tall leadership in manoj tiwari now.

[Sachin]

SC dismisses Mudi govt.

On what articles of the constituition can SC dismiss the elected government of the day? I am not joking or being sarcastic.

congress is lapping up the vacuum: Shiela Dixit has said people of Delhi will be very disappointed with this order of SC

Excellent. Dr. Harshavardhan wans the ban to stay, while "secular" Shiela Dixit wants the ban to be lifted. So looks the common feeling on the ground is that the ban is unwanted. The Congress may encourage the cracker lovers to have a field day, while the central govt. (to whom Dilli Pulis reports to) also just looks the other way. Net to net result is that; Hon.SC orders do not get really carried out on the ground, and even "secular" parties later cannot say that the central government did not do much.

[Yagnasri]

^^ and they have tall leadership in manoj tiwari now.

Yes. That is the best they can get. They could have made someone like Mr. Giri the MP from East Delhi at least. He seems to be a stable fellow. Still, I think BJP is better now than the times of Madan Lal Khurana etc.

[BhairavP]

Bombay HC bans sale of fireworks in residential areas in Maharashtra.

[Karthik]

^^ and they have tall leadership in manoj tiwari now.

Yes. That is the best they can get. They could have made someone like Mr. Giri the MP from East Delhi at least. He seems to be a stable fellow. Still, I think BJP is better now than the times of Madan Lal Khurana etc.

Yes, they need to groom Giri and Nupur Sharma, she is one strong lady.

[abhijit]

the most bigotry argument being circulated in media is there were no firecrackers at time of Ram then why do you need them now? So there were no tv, cars, condoms, penicillin then, why use them now? both questions are equally ridiculous. Lifestyle changes with times as the way people celebrate joyous occasions. In this times in entire world firecrackers are used as symbol of joy and celebration. Not just diwali. When human kind finds better more fabulous means they will move on from firecrackers. Until then criminalizing hindus for using firecrackers but let entire world use them is utterly discriminating and insulting and making mockery of us for being hindus.

[Schmidt]

Net to net result is that; Hon.SC orders do not get really carried out on the ground, and even "secular" parties later cannot say that the central government did not do much.

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How can people celebrate with fire crackers when they can't buy them from nearby shops

They would have to go out of Delhi to buy the stuff

Already people burst very few crackers mainly due to the high cost

This will further eliminate crackers freom being a part of the celebrations

[MehtaRahulC]

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Pls do ask @PmoIndia over twitter to print money bill law to cancel firecracker ban imposed by SCjs. Tweet I have used is " @PmoIndia #CancelScjOrderToBanCrackers SCjs' judgment to ban firecrackers is wrong. Ask Loksabha to print money bill law law to cancel it " (see https://twitter.com/MehtaRahulC/status/ ... 3147754496 ) .
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In Chhatisghadh, RSS-CM Dr Raman Singh has imposed ban on high decibel firecrackers !!! Not all, but high decibels. Lets wait for details. But pls note --- here judges didnt impose ban. The ban is coming from RSS-CM Dr Raman Singh himself.
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Mumbai High Court judges have imposed ban on sale of firecrackers in residential areas. Can be a step towards imposing total ban, may be next year?
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So it is spreading like epidemic now.
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I request all to act asap. Or else epidemic will be out of control.
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It is now clear that RSS Minister Dr Harshvardhan had asked Central Pollution Control Board to ask SCjs to ban firecracker sale. IOW, RSS-Minister DrHV is the MAIN trouble maker here, along with SCjs, not some 2 bit NGO. I see no RSS-worker publicly demanding his regisnation. RSS-apex-leader Mohan Bhagawat has kept radio silence on this issue.
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NGO is only used as some cover to misguide Hindus

[Primus]

I have to admit I too am disappointed though not surprised that the SC ordered the ban on fireworks on Diwali (banning the sale effectively destroys any chance of people at large enjoying them).

However, I am equally if not more disappointed in the #blowtoModi reaction on this forum. We do not need to be blind sheep herded along by the Modi wave, but it is necessary to see the larger picture. Yes, this is a setback for the Indic forces, but is nothing compared to what has been happening right before our very eyes for centuries, fat little we did about it all that time, especially for the past 70 yrs. Now we moan and lash ourselves just because a pro-Dharma government is in power and we expect miracles overnight. We fail to see all that has been done and is being done, but want what we want, like spoilt kids who don't care about the college funded started by the parents but are angry about the lack of a large basket of crackers for Diwali.

Maybe we should have a poll right now on this forum to see how many would NOT vote BJP next election based on this SC decision and the perceived apathy from the BJP camp.

[abhijit]

^^ this is THE biggest festival for hindus and if moral policing being done on us and modi does nothing and watch from sideline, or what worse be part of moral policing then if that is not blowtomodi then what else?

[abhijit]

MehtaRahulC this is nobody's forum. We are nobody. Nobody but us read ourselves here. If you are a politician as you say you are then spend less time here and invest your time to reach out to larger group.