The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

[Chandragupta]

Dhimmis. Just because some Bollywood babe told them not to burst crackers.

[Aditya_V]

Forget all that, people travelling at Midnight is a nusiance, lets Ban Midnight mass and all New Year parties should close by 10:30, lets see the media outrage.

[MehtaRahulC]

This is evident from social media today . There is sense of gloom and despair even amongst the hard core supporters of BJP. They are slowly realising BJP is a clueless party masquerading as nationalist.. And Hindus were cursing Modi while NDTV< Choonawalas etal were laughing to their heart content teasing Hindus with 'think of future' . Slowly it is sinking in that we need a RW alternative of BJP. .....

If BJP doesn't support Hindu interests and only parrots "vikas, vikas, vikas," then a space will emerge for a truly nationalist Hindu party which will brazenly protect Hindu interests without seeking certificates of good behaviour from anti-Hindu elements, judges, academics, NGOs, media, etc. BJP is failing Hindus

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If any true nationalist (be "true secular non-hinduvaadi" or true hinduvaadi) contests elections, then IMMEDIATELY modi supporters, RSS-workers etc will label him as "vote katua" and someone who is contesting election ONLY to make congress win, and also call him anti-India, anti-national, anti-Hindu, anti-Hinduism, congress agent, sonia aget , BIF-agent, traitor and what not!!!
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And thats necessary for them --- because if TRUE NATIONALISTS contest elections, then RSS = BJP will lose votes , will lose Ministries and lose oppurtunity to earn bribes, and control temples.
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IOW, first true nationalist need to develop a rhino skin against statements of RSS-workers and Modi-supporters. He needs to be become immune to abuses that modi-supporters and rss-workers will throw at him.
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Linking firecracker ban with bakri-id and demanding ban on goat slauighter
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This is uber nonsense, but then what else can we expect from Chetan Bhagat? Muslims never demanded ban on firecrackers. So why should we target Muslim festivals? WE SHOULD NOT !! And cow slaughter should fetch imprisonment, but goat meat is eaten by majority Hindus. So calling for ban on goat slaughter is imo USELESS. We should target ONLY those who worked to get firecrackers , Jallikatju etc banned, and those who supported this ban
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There is problem of Islamist violence. And solution is two child law, expelling Bangldeshies INFILTRATORS , giving weapons to Baluchies, using more iron pallets and real bullets in Kashmir, boycotting Kashmiri apples till they get sense and so on. we should also encourage religious tourism in JK but boycott ALL non religious tourism in JK (eg many people go to JK for fun and skying and not for religious reasons--- this should end) and work to reduce decibels of mosque mikes. But last thing we should do --- ask judges to ban goat slaughter just because judges banned Jallikatju and firecrackers

[Neela]

Rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper

How one FSO used constructive dissent to advance a sensible approach to air pollution in India.
BY SAMUEL KOTIS
http://www.afsa.org/clearing-air-new-delhi

[Rudradev]

If there is one thing Rahul Mehta definitely has it is a rhino skin

[BhairavP]

In other news, BJP has won big in MH Gram Panchayat elections. 50 percent of the panchayats announced so far. Congress second, SS third.

[ricky]

I think that this is not enough, what about the excess lights that are turned on during that time, light pollution, animal blindness, mild discomfort to the spastics, who will speak out for them? Water is wasted only during Holi, it is known, but the silent killer is the minute particles of gulaal, is that not air pollution? a form of terrorism against toddlers and their right to a quality life? Why are people silent on this issue? Idols are by default environmental pollution, they should be banned pronto. We the people of India are childlike and immature and clearly have no locii on burning issues related to the environment, thus we have to rely on better educated and morally upright citizens to lead us on the path of righteousness. What is the issue really?

[Karthik]

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Will talk to CM Fadnavis & request if we can also ban crackers in Maharashtra on lines of SC order for Delhi: Environment Min Ramdas Kadam

[Sachin]

Mean while, the below news may have political ramifications. I am hearing many news reports about the banning of radical Islamic outfits liks the PFI, and such reports now actively getting leaked into friendly media means that public perception is now being modified to make people hear about the ban with sheer joy .

Lt Col Purohit's report exposes links between radical Muslim groups and netas
Malegaon blast accused Col Purohit's secret report exposed links between radical Muslim groups and netas - Watch

• Lt.Col Purohit had submitted a secret report to Southern Command HQ at Pune in 2006.
• The NIA has also given the same report as Yadasth in a report submitted to them in court.
• The report details about the sleeper cells operating in Southern states (eg: SIMI, today's Popular Front of India). The terror links of a political outfit in Keral PDP. This outfit was floated by Abdul Nasser Mahdani.
• The report mentions about an individual P.Koya, who is said to be an agent of Pakistani ISI. Google search just using the name, came up with the references to a P.Koya now associated with NDF and other radical Islamist outfit.
• The report also lists out the front organisations for the above outfits like media houses, news papers and also their connections with the leftist intellectuals. The report also mentions about the connection between the groups with leftist media houses.
• Purohit's report mentions about "the extensive use and employement of communist cadre" to spread the agenda of the radical Islamic outfits.

[Sachin]

On the cracker ban, from what I saw on social media, the ban may just not work out. Tejindar Bagga was active on social media asking for donations, using which he would buy crackers (from places else where) and donate it to the slum children in New Delhi . When I see people from Kerala, talking about contributing money (without even checking on Tejindar Bagga), that may be in an indication of how people view the verdict.

There are also few legal points being thrown around. Only the "sale" of cracker is banned. "Gifting" of crackers is still NOT banned. The "ban" is only at New Delhi. Nothing stops people from buying crackers else where and then blast it away.

Last year the kids in my apartment (in ITvity city) were more interested in celebrating Halloween than Diwali. As a kid Diwali was telling most awaited festival because of the fireworks. Remove the most fun part, and Diwali will also slowly die out.

This is another "positive" contribution of IT-Vity in India . It was really "amusing" to see my own friends and relatives who have never celebrated Onam or Deepavali at their own homes, being a MUTU and celebrating Halloween when posted in US. And it is such crowds who also generally land up in those isolated (from the rest of the state/city) Apartment blocks, which they consider as an extension of US. So far I have managed to clearly stay away from such MUTU areas. But the trend I see is that of the Indian festivals slowly losing out, with the techies aping Europe and US.

[MehtaRahulC]

The grad plan now is --- Natuonal Dairy Development Board aka NDDB , central govt body, will encourage cow-owners to inseminate desi cows with semen of German Hosltein bulls. NDDB has phased out Indian bulls. And semen of German Hosltein bulls is being provides as dirt cheap subsidized rates !!! So every 4 years, desiness in desi cows will go half. Within 15-20 years, desi cows will be over 90% Hosltein cows and less than 10% desi cows
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Basically, grand plan to exterminate "desiness in desi cows" !!!
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19-mar-2015 , ToI
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 615564.cms
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German bulls reach frozen semen production stations

Mar 19, 2015

CHENNAI: After a month-long sabbatical, 40 Holstein Friesian bulls imported from Germany, which were quarantined at the Government of India Animal Quarantine Centre at Pallikaranai, will be back to business as they were taken to frozen semen production stations on Tuesday.
The National Dairy Development Board at Anand in Gujarat imported 76 pedigree bulls, of which 36 were sent to an animal quarantine centre in Kolkata. The remaining came here. The bulls, which landed in the city on February 14, were imported to improve the gene pool and avoid inbreeding among local breeds. They were subsequently acclimatised to the local environment.

The bulls were sent to frozen semen production stations in Karnataka, Kerala, Telengana and Maharashtra, other than those in the state, quarantine authorities told TOI. While 20 bulls were sent to Karnataka, seven each were sent to Maharashtra and Kerala. Four bulls went to Telengana while the remaining two were sent to a centre in Tamil Nadu.

The bulls were shipped in specially designed trucks containing fodder. Supplies included green grass, grey straw, vitamins, medical supplements and pre-mixed animal feeds. The bulls will be trained to mount a 'teaser bull' at the centres and semen will be collected in artificial vaginas and frozen, state animal husbandry officials said. A bull will ejaculate three to five millilitres of semen in each session. The sessions will be performed twice a week, officials said. Earlier, special care was given to the bulls on their arrival at the Chennai airport. The animals landed in air-conditioned pellets from Germany before being transported to the quarantine centre, said Ganesh, a skills logistics official at the airport who handled the special cargo.
A separate and isolated place is required at the Chennai airport to handle this kind of 'unusual' cargo, said a senior Airports Authority of India officer. At present, the cargo terminal has no designated place for isolation.
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3-sep-2015
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http://www.livemint.com/Politics/lVWU8z ... semen.html
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The future of India’s dairy industry lies with bull semen. Govt plans to accelerate expansion of a dairy herd; more and better cows needed to get yields near world averages

New Delhi: The fate of India’s milk revolution is packed inside 3-liter, nitrogen-cooled tanks like the one Rajeev Rana carries around rural Uttar Pradesh on the back of his motorbike. Inside Rana’s canister are tubes of frozen bull semen the government is distributing to farmers. It’s part of a plan to accelerate expansion of a dairy herd that soon will be unable to produce enough in the world’s biggest milk-consuming country. With demand rising faster than domestic supply, India will become a net importer by 2020, ending decades of self- sufficiency, according to agricultural-services provider Cargill Inc.

To cap overseas purchases, India is spending Rs.2,242 crore to improve yields that are a quarter of what US cows produce. It’s a tall order for a nation where 80% of supply comes from families with just two or three animals and few farmers have access to bank loans. Part of the National Dairy Plan includes importing Holstein Friesian bulls for breeding and supporting veterinary workers like Rana who can artificially inseminate as many as 30 animals a day. ......

“We are a large country, and the moment we enter the world market, we tend to push up prices,” said T. Nanda Kumar, a former Indian agriculture secretary who last year became chairman of the National Dairy Development Board, which helped make the country self-sufficient in milk by boosting output with its Operation Flood program starting in 1970. Importing milk “should not be part of our policy and should be an exception,” he said.

“One key challenge is low productivity” per animal, and most farmers “have a lack of awareness” about “breeding, nutrition and management of dairy farms”, said Prashant Shinde, the dairy head at Cargill Feed and Nutrition India in Gurgaon.

“The increase in milk production will come from genetic import and selection of elite animals,” the dairy board’s Nanda Kumar said. “We should be able to easily meet the rising demand.” ..... Over the next two years, India will need to produce 100 million doses of high-quality, disease-free semen annually, up from 90 million now, according to the government. Holstein Friesian bulls imported from Germany are also set to start producing semen soon.

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So great plan of Modiji is to exterminate desiness in desi cows, and increase milk production, by inseminating them with german Holstein bulls . Plan was indeed made by SOGa in jan-2014, but she lost Loksabha elections before execution can starts. Now Modiji is executing the plan.
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All this is 100% public news ---- see above links and google for yourself
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Only inside information I have not on google is "SoGa had named this plan as Operation Khilaji to honor Alauddin Khilaji , the biggest cow slaughterer in India, who FAILED because his own muslim along with Hindu soldiers started opposing it. Most of them were farmers , and farmers need cows for 10s of reasons. Later, it seems that Modji changed the name of the whole operation to 'Operation Kamdhenu'. But same operation is being implemented now.". Now, ignore the issue of what is name of the operation - operation khilaji or operation kamdhenu and which leader gives which names. Pls focus on ACTUAL STEPS govt is taking. GoI is encouraging Indian cow owners to use German Holstein bull semen and GoI is phasing out Indian bulls. This coupled with Jallikatju ban will further damage desiness in desi cow. Jallikatju money was used to feed and maintain Indian bulls in TN.

[Hari Seldon]

Rudradev,

Speaking for moiself, I ill still vote for BJP. May not campaign this time like I did in '14, but my vote won;t be wasted on NOTA or any c-system extension.

So yes, this 'concern' that the "Hindu" vote will gravitate to the CVB party are pretty unfounded, if not dumbfounded. Come 2019, we will all rally once again, IMHO. With a hardening heart, with less hope than before and all, but rally we still will...

[Indrad]

well some sort of circus is going on
A Minister from MP has invited people to celebrate Diwali in MP and burst crackers to heart's content. RT by CM Shiv Chouhan.

many delhities have wapped they are ok w SC decision

[Indrad]

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[ricky]

The entry of the upholders where angels fear to tread sets of a dangerous precedent. The law of the land should be iron, if everyone starts flouting it willy-nilly, then it sets into motion the wheel of revolution where the people do not accept the authority of the state. Sure it can be couched in verbiage about circumventing the law, but it fools no one. Why would the TT ruling be followed by practitioners when their neighbours are damming the verdict by their actions?It will ultimately weaken the state and then the maidan organisers will get their long held wish of seeing brown people united against the establishment regardless of religious or other differences.

[Sachin]

The entry of the upholders where angels fear to tread sets of a dangerous precedent. The law of the land should be iron, if everyone starts flouting it willy-nilly, then it sets into motion the wheel of revolution where the people do not accept the
authority of the state.

One important aspect of every law, is that citizens should feel (and get convinced) that it is real common sense, and there is a benefit of having such a law. If that does not exist, such laws sooner or later would become jokes. For Triple Talaq if the society feels that the law is against injustice, it is bound to get accepted.
Diwali Cracker Ban: How SC Is Setting Itself Up For Failure And Disrespect Of The Law

[Indrad]

as a reminder both Dahi Handi & Jallikattu were celebrated with great fervour in MH & TN. Hence SC is not helping itself with such judgements.

[Sachin]

Mean while "The Wire" folks have now literally started begging/requesting for funds to defend themselves
Support The Wire, and Rs.200 is the minimum ask. May be they should outsource this job to the CPI(M) in Kerala. Chaps are experts when it comes to fund collection using red buckets.

[Neela]

Here is a list which makes the whole sale ban suspect.

1. Why just before Diwali when traders would have ordered stocks already?
The timing is precisely meant for long term (subsequent years) impact. Which trader in his right mind would risk money next year?

2. What compensation did SC give to traders who ordered stocks? Is there a redressal panel from SC?
Since SC does not have the financial wherewithal to handle this, does it not speak of irresponsibility?


3. "3 kids appealed to the SC" story is B$ . Such tearjerkers are usually red herrings.
This is ducking serious business. It IS a billion dollar industry and several 1000s of jobs at stake. The Chinese industry is 13 times larger ( yes....THIRTEEN)
Has the SC endeared itself to the people explaining the reasons for the ban in clear terms?

4. Has SC addressed other other contributors to pollution in a timely organized fashion?

5. Why only until 01/Nov/2017 ?



Willing to be educated if there is a shortfall in my understanding.

[abhijit]

Interestingly while common man is questioning the judgment not a single elected politician has balls to question. Wonder why? They question army, EC freely though.

[Yagnasri]

We forget the 5star comment by NM and also NJAC constitutional amendment which SC annulled later. We also do not remember the submissions made before the SC on NJAC case arguments wherein serious details about the appointments made came into public domine. This Gov did try to make SC change. But the serious ground was conceded to the SC for over two decades and it is now very difficult.

There are ways to do it without any serious legislative measures. But there is no way to send those ways to the top people in the executive. That is the big problem.

[Sachin]

We forget the 5star comment by NM and also NJAC constitutional amendment which SC annulled later. We also do not remember the submissions made before the SC on NJAC case arguments wherein serious details about the appointments made came into public domine.

Saar, what is your take on the SC decision to officially put up the deliberation findings in public eyes (web site etc.) for the judicial appointments done by them? By the way, where exactly have they published such a report? I could not find it on the Supreme Court web site.

[sum]

Interestingly while common man is questioning the judgment not a single elected politician has balls to question. Wonder why? They question army, EC freely though.

Actually in my social network circles, >90% are supporting it and these are proper hindoo fundamental types

[abhijit]

There is a country in which a handful of people have enormous power. They elect themselves. They order people what to do what not to. You have to obey them otherwise they punish you. You can complain only to them and only they decide if complain is valid. They demand tax from people to pay for their expenses and lifestyle. If you don't pay tax they punish you. When they are done they decide whom to pass on the crown.

[Yagnasri]

Saar, what is your take on the SC decision to officially put up the deliberation findings in public eyes (web site etc.) for the judicial appointments done by them? By the way, where exactly have they published such a report? I could not find it on the Supreme Court web site.

You need see the Yes Prime Minister episode wherein how the Minutes of meetings are prepared.

On the serious note, we can do a lot with some original thing and by going back to the roots.