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Balakot, Muzzafaranad and CharotiKL Dubey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:05 pm*Ornob is on a roll at Republic TV. Intense 'bating on there. If I heard correctly, he claimed that in addition to the Balakot pigsty, two others were also hit (one near the POK "capital" of Must-suffer-bad and the other somewhere else that I couldn't catch). Is this true ? I could not find a confirmation elsewhere.
I find it little hard to believe 300 swines are dispatched. That's a number too high, Pakis wont aggregate all their JEM munna's in one place with such a imminent threat so close to border, ISI would have given instructions to stay away anticipating ground strike. Clown Ghaffor too mentioned this in his statement on anticipating ground attack. There are no visible signs of ambulances, coffins etc as well.KL Dubey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:08 amGreat professional job by IAF, More than 300 swine dispatched in a few minutes.
Airstrike deep inside the Pawkee reservation is a game changer, not just a repeat of last year's excellent IA operation in POK. The message is that we can pick off targets at will wherever they may be inside the reservation.
BTW the local villagers of Balakot say they heard "loud bangs"....hell YEAH.
Just 300 is pretty high, maybe 50-75 is my guess (take it with pinch of salt though).
Well, it seems that is what they did. Pawkees thought the strike would come in POK and did not anticipate that we would strike deep inside their territory. So I believe they did concentrate lotsa pigs in one sty away from the LOC.
Right...we are talking about a country that would not even take back the bodies of their own army personnel from Kargil...what to speak of JeM terrah camps which they officially claim don't exist. Is there a reason to expect a visible show of funerals ?
Air power was used in Kargil....including the bombing of the Muntho Dhalo supply camp. THey only said they would not cross LoC but Pakistani positions were bombed by IAF. I dont get why they expect NaMo to take a terrorist hit and keep quite. He had made that pretty clear even before he was elected. It is not just a tough-guy image, it is his actual position. And I dont know what China can make Pak do that would convince India to join CPEC. China is still busy supplying arms to Pakistan as far as I know.AbhishekC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:55 pm
The use of Air Force in foreign airspace is considered an act of war. Which is why using IAF in Pak was essentially an act of war, something that was not done even during Kargil conflict.
Pakis thought Modi would go as far as he has, given that he cannot escalate beyond a particular point in an election year. However, the truth is given his tough guy image, he has to escalate. So that why we are in a ding dong battle, and India's escalated reaction is a foregone conclusion.
The fact both AFs have shot down each other's planes means we are already in an undeclared state of war.
He has now called the three chiefs for a meeting, so the next step will be to escalate it to the state of an open war.
When Modi refused to wear a skull cap during 2014 campaign (among other things), he avoided the mistake of Advani of appearing as a compromiser. And by attacking pakis, he has avoided the mistake of Vajpayee, who tucked his tail after giving a call for 'Aar paar ki ladayee'. He cannot, and should not, cave in now.
A lot will depend on what transpires in the ongoing meet between India, Russia, and China. And weakness by China at this point will mean pakistan will fold. Any obstruction by China means war between India and Pakistan.
China should probably be aware of this, but any war between India and Pakistan means the end of CPEC. And so they will probably make Pakistan eat crow. And India will show some 'softness' and participate in the CPEC. Get it?
India being alone shouldn’t make an iota of difference. It’s a war, not a party.crams wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:50 amGuys, my take is that India is in this all alone. I think 'international community' has made some noises, but I don't think those noises should worry TSP too much.
Zynda, can you elaborate on what exactly TSP foreign minister said regarding thugbandhan statement? I say something from Pappu, it was more comical than anything else. All he could say was 'express anguish' at what TSP has done.
When IAF hit Balakote, KPK, pakiland, all of our politicians, across the political spectrum, were appreciative/supportive of IAF's actions. What has NaMo/BJP done or not done, in the last 24 hours, that these clowns released a joint statement disowning support for the GoI/IAF?Zynda wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:24 pmIt is seriously disgusting when TSP Foreign Minister references the joint press statement issued by our so called patriotic opposition parties. The joint press statement more or less explicitly makes it clear that they are not behind the current GoI. So they are essentially stating that current govt is rogue or kinda that effect. And most of them have the gall to come on TV debates & to try to justify their positions as usual by shouting...ack tho on these b@st@rds.
Same with terrorist attack @ Pulwama. The unity lasted barely 48 hours I think you are creating “Chanakyan scenarios” where none exist.AbhishekC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:55 pmThere is an interesting interplay in these events which is missed by hyperenthusiastic commentators.
The use of Air Force in foreign airspace is considered an act of war. Which is why using IAF in Pak was essentially an act of war, something that was not done even during Kargil conflict.
Pakis, as usual, miscalculated when they thought that India would conduct surgical strike in PoK, leaving terror universities in pakiland unprotected.
They probably thought that a small skirmish like the surgical strike would leave enough space for them to escalate a bit more, and this ding dong battle could be continued for some time.
Pakis thought Modi would go as far as he has, given that he cannot escalate beyond a particular point in an election year. However, the truth is given his tough guy image, he has to escalate. So that why we are in a ding dong battle, and India's escalated reaction is a foregone conclusion.
The fact both AFs have shot down each other's planes means we are already in an undeclared state of war.
He has now called the three chiefs for a meeting, so the next step will be to escalate it to the state of an open war.
When Modi refused to wear a skull cap during 2014 campaign (among other things), he avoided the mistake of Advani of appearing as a compromiser. And by attacking pakis, he has avoided the mistake of Vajpayee, who tucked his tail after giving a call for 'Aar paar ki ladayee'. He cannot, and should not, cave in now.
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A lot will depend on what transpires in the ongoing meet between India, Russia, and China. And weakness by China at this point will mean pakistan will fold. Any obstruction by China means war between India and Pakistan.
China should probably be aware of this, but any war between India and Pakistan means the end of CPEC. And so they will probably make Pakistan eat crow. And India will show some 'softness' and participate in the CPEC. Get it?
JT you know Kannada, you decideJohnTitor wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:23 amMeanwhile, Yeddi's turning the air strikes political.
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/bengalu ... 195692.cms
Yes I know he claims he was misquoted and he probably was. But only a moron would talk to the media when you know your statements will be twisted. Why does he need to say that the time is favourable for BJP.
We all know this will work in BJP's favour but keep it shut for god's sake.
With morons like him, who needs enemies.
rhytha wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:37 amI find it little hard to believe 300 swines are dispatched. That's a number too high, Pakis wont aggregate all their JEM munna's in one place with such a imminent threat so close to border, ISI would have given instructions to stay away anticipating ground strike. Clown Ghaffor too mentioned this in his statement on anticipating ground attack. There are no visible signs of ambulances, coffins etc as well.KL Dubey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:08 amGreat professional job by IAF, More than 300 swine dispatched in a few minutes.
Airstrike deep inside the Pawkee reservation is a game changer, not just a repeat of last year's excellent IA operation in POK. The message is that we can pick off targets at will wherever they may be inside the reservation.
BTW the local villagers of Balakot say they heard "loud bangs"....hell YEAH.
(Posting it here since i don't want to be jumped in BRF thread.)
God and the soldier, all men adoreSSundar wrote:I just can”t seem to understand what happened to India in the years between the Kargil War and now. Congis and DMK are openly praising Imran Khan and carrying the “No War” banner. Disgusting.
sbajwa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:34 pmrhytha wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:37 amI find it little hard to believe 300 swines are dispatched. That's a number too high, Pakis wont aggregate all their JEM munna's in one place with such a imminent threat so close to border, ISI would have given instructions to stay away anticipating ground strike. Clown Ghaffor too mentioned this in his statement on anticipating ground attack. There are no visible signs of ambulances, coffins etc as well.KL Dubey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:08 amGreat professional job by IAF, More than 300 swine dispatched in a few minutes.
Airstrike deep inside the Pawkee reservation is a game changer, not just a repeat of last year's excellent IA operation in POK. The message is that we can pick off targets at will wherever they may be inside the reservation.
BTW the local villagers of Balakot say they heard "loud bangs"....hell YEAH.
(Posting it here since i don't want to be jumped in BRF thread.)
Why do you found it hard? The town of Balakot is where in 1831 Ahmed Shah Barelvi (from Rae Bareli Sonia Gandhi's constituency) joined with afghans against Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Hari Singh Nalwa and Prince Sher Singh killed them all at Balakot. Thus in Jihadi parlance this town is "Shohdon ka town" aka "Town of Jihadi Martyrs". Jihadi visit the graves of Ahmad Shah Barelvi before embarking on their cowardly deed. The other two places that were attacked were launch holdings while Balakot with swimming pools, gun ranges, large grounds for exercise and training was premium facility for JEM and Al Qaeda terrorists about 8km from the town on top of a hill More than two dozen Fidayeen, 25+ hard core trainers, 400+ other assorted terrorists along with their ammunition, etc are destroyed!
This town inspires all JEM and Al QAeda Jihadis!
Oh is it? I thought the IAF had actually bombed our own part of Kashmir, and gathered some evidence which they have shared with GoI. So looks like they have actually entered Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK) after all. Thanks for updating my knowledge.Haldiram wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:50 pmBajwa ji, where are you getting the 400 number from? So far GOI in its press briefing has not claimed any numbers. International press ground report from Balakot (KPK) says one person wounded, interviewed him too, no sign of any structural damage, and showed 4 pretty innocuous looking bomb craters. Two of the craters were in this wounded man wheatfield next to his house, and two other in the uninhabited wooded area.
Haldiram wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:50 pmsbajwa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:34 pmrhytha wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:37 am
I find it little hard to believe 300 swines are dispatched. That's a number too high, Pakis wont aggregate all their JEM munna's in one place with such a imminent threat so close to border, ISI would have given instructions to stay away anticipating ground strike. Clown Ghaffor too mentioned this in his statement on anticipating ground attack. There are no visible signs of ambulances, coffins etc as well.
(Posting it here since i don't want to be jumped in BRF thread.)
Why do you found it hard? The town of Balakot is where in 1831 Ahmed Shah Barelvi (from Rae Bareli Sonia Gandhi's constituency) joined with afghans against Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Hari Singh Nalwa and Prince Sher Singh killed them all at Balakot. Thus in Jihadi parlance this town is "Shohdon ka town" aka "Town of Jihadi Martyrs". Jihadi visit the graves of Ahmad Shah Barelvi before embarking on their cowardly deed. The other two places that were attacked were launch holdings while Balakot with swimming pools, gun ranges, large grounds for exercise and training was premium facility for JEM and Al Qaeda terrorists about 8km from the town on top of a hill More than two dozen Fidayeen, 25+ hard core trainers, 400+ other assorted terrorists along with their ammunition, etc are destroyed!
This town inspires all JEM and Al QAeda Jihadis!
Bajwa ji, where are you getting the 400 number from? So far GOI in its press briefing has not claimed any numbers. International press ground report from Balakot (KPK) says one person wounded, interviewed him too, no sign of any structural damage, and showed 4 pretty innocuous looking bomb craters. Two of the craters were in this wounded man wheatfield next to his house, and two other in the uninhabited wooded area.
Haldiram wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:50 pmBajwa ji, where are you getting the 400 number from? So far GOI in its press briefing has not claimed any numbers. International press ground report from Balakot (KPK) says one person wounded, interviewed him too, no sign of any structural damage, and showed 4 pretty innocuous looking bomb craters. Two of the craters were in this wounded man wheatfield next to his house, and two other in the uninhabited wooded area.
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