The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by fanne » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:42 pm

yup I like the idea. It is old and well tested. Even a nut case like Fordiwal knows it - He told Kumar Vishwas I will not expel you from party and let you become a martyr.

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Post by chetak » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:52 pm

each is holding on to the other's hand so that they don't get pickpocketed.


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Post by crams » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:07 pm

I cannot believe that traitor b!tch Kavita Krishnan and other elite femi Nazis and BJP haters have twisted BJP MLA Sadhna's statements against Mayawathi and made a mountain out of a mole. I mean I don't understand what was so offensive at what Sadhna said? She siad, Mayawathi is a disgrace because out of sheer lust for power, she has embraced her attackers (recalling the incident where SP goondas attacked her. So much self righteousness and hypocrisy on display. Politics is a dirty sport.

But that said, it does seem BJP is a tad worried about the BSP SP alliance :-). Tough to say which way UP will swing in the BJP Vs (BSP & SP) contest. Interesting times ahead.

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Post by RajaRaja » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:04 am

crams wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:07 pm
I cannot believe that traitor b!tch Kavita Krishnan and other elite femi Nazis and BJP haters have twisted BJP MLA Sadhna's statements against Mayawathi and made a mountain out of a mole. I mean I don't understand what was so offensive at what Sadhna said? She siad, Mayawathi is a disgrace because out of sheer lust for power, she has embraced her attackers (recalling the incident where SP goondas attacked her. So much self righteousness and hypocrisy on display. Politics is a dirty sport.

But that said, it does seem BJP is a tad worried about the BSP SP alliance :-). Tough to say which way UP will swing in the BJP Vs (BSP & SP) contest. Interesting times ahead.

May be you did not understand hindi? Here is the quoted translation, let us see if you find this offensive enough. IMO t this statement will have a similar impact as that of Yogi's "saanp chachundar" statement before the bypolls, may be little less in severity. So you can bet that while outwardly BSP & SP are expressing outrage, in private they are thanking this lady!

"She (Mayawati) has no self-respect... she was almost molested earlier and yet... in history, when Draupadi was molested, she took a vow to seek revenge... but this woman, she lost everything, but still sold her dignity for the sake of power. We strongly condemn Mayawati ji. She is a blot on womankind. A woman who gulped insults for comfort and power... is a blot on womankind,"

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Post by abhik » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:23 am

Supratik wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:47 pm
Congress to launch Harvest TV through its proxies.

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/with-bark ... epublic-tv
"Harvest TV" - that's wierd name for a news channel, are they only going to to be broadcasting "good news"?

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Post by Vikas » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:42 am

For all practical purpose, Shatrughan Sinha is treated as a RJD/Congressi & a disgruntled MP. He probably will still win from Patna Sahab but it won't be on BJP ticket.
NM has spoken about anything and everything under the Sun including Aircraft deal. Those who want to jump onto RG bandwagon are simply acting smart. Anyways explaining Raefel deal to ordinary masses is pretty complicated and it is very easy to indulge in hit&Run tactics about corruption.
Mango Indian will vote based upon how hard or better his/her life has become in last 5 years and not on some misty defense deal which anyways are shrouded in mystery.
Personally I don't see any Anti-Modi sentiment on the grounds. On the contrary people feel that he is being unfairly treated.

Lastly those supporting Modiji (Including me) aren't doing any favors to him. This is a battle WE are fighting and he is the GoC.

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Post by Schmidt » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:53 am

abhik wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:23 am
Supratik wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:47 pm
Congress to launch Harvest TV through its proxies.

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/with-bark ... epublic-tv
"Harvest TV" - that's wierd name for a news channel, are they only going to to be broadcasting "good news"?
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Probably short form for " Soul Harvest TV "

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Post by Gus » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:30 am

Sunny wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:08 pm
Why hasn't Shatru Singha been expelled from the party?

He repeatedly sides with anti BJP forces and criticises the PM and government.

Some criticism, even openly, is fine - but to do it every other month over a period of 2-3 years?
diminishing returns.

in politics, ignoring somebody is a strategy too.

what happened to kejriwal? he was daily in news couple of years ago. where is he now?

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Post by crams » Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:42 am

Haldiram wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:04 am

May be you did not understand hindi? Here is the quoted translation, let us see if you find this offensive enough.

"She (Mayawati) has no self-respect... she was almost molested earlier and yet... in history, when Draupadi was molested, she took a vow to seek revenge... but this woman, she lost everything, but still sold her dignity for the sake of power. We strongly condemn Mayawati ji. She is a blot on womankind. A woman who gulped insults for comfort and power... is a blot on womankind,"
I don't find it offensive, but she could have conveyed the same message with that blot on womankind BS. Also, instead of 'condemn', she could have said we feel sad for Mayawathi or something like that.

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Post by RajaRaja » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:11 am

crams wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:42 am
Haldiram wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:04 am

May be you did not understand hindi? Here is the quoted translation, let us see if you find this offensive enough.

"She (Mayawati) has no self-respect... she was almost molested earlier and yet... in history, when Draupadi was molested, she took a vow to seek revenge... but this woman, she lost everything, but still sold her dignity for the sake of power. We strongly condemn Mayawati ji. She is a blot on womankind. A woman who gulped insults for comfort and power... is a blot on womankind,"
I don't find it offensive, but she could have conveyed the same message with that blot on womankind BS. Also, instead of 'condemn', she could have said we feel sad for Mayawathi or something like that.

It sounds more offensive when said in Hindi than the equivalent English translation.

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Post by Vikas » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:31 am

As per newspaper reports, the line used was ," “jis din mahila ka blouse, petticoat, saari phat jaaye, wo mahila na satta ke liye aage aati hai. Usko pure desh ki mahila kalankit maanti hai.
Wo to kinnar se bhi jyada badtar hai, kyunki wo to na nar hai, na mahila hai,” "
which caused the storm.

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Post by Vikas » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:33 am

crams wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:42 am
Haldiram wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:04 am

May be you did not understand hindi? Here is the quoted translation, let us see if you find this offensive enough.

"She (Mayawati) has no self-respect... she was almost molested earlier and yet... in history, when Draupadi was molested, she took a vow to seek revenge... but this woman, she lost everything, but still sold her dignity for the sake of power. We strongly condemn Mayawati ji. She is a blot on womankind. A woman who gulped insults for comfort and power... is a blot on womankind,"
I don't find it offensive, but she could have conveyed the same message with that blot on womankind BS. Also, instead of 'condemn', she could have said we feel sad for Mayawathi or something like that.
When closer to elections, One should avoid making crass statements like these which riles up the whole vote bank. Never know who gets offended by what and when.

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Post by chadev » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:40 pm

Imo, expect more bollywood stars, ex-cricketers to join BJP for LS. Remember in 2014, it was still taboo to support BJP openly. in 2019, this is big issue for BJP, it's only one pro( Modi), there is no other name with any pro-value. And thus, I guess there will more celebs for that very reason.

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Post by ArjunPandit » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:01 pm

What no mention of hacked EVMS on BGR? As fermi asked where is everybody?

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Post by gablu » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:57 am

It was a big joke poorly executed

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Post by Vikas » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:54 am

chadev wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:40 pm
Imo, expect more bollywood stars, ex-cricketers to join BJP for LS. Remember in 2014, it was still taboo to support BJP openly. in 2019, this is big issue for BJP, it's only one pro( Modi), there is no other name with any pro-value. And thus, I guess there will more celebs for that very reason.
Most of the film stars and cricketers turn out to be a liability for the political parties. Very few like Smriti Irani carry forward the message and are useful. Rest all are in it for personal benefit. Roll of honor include:
S Sinha
Govinda
Raj Babbar
Azhar
Sunil Dutt
Chetan Chauhan
Dharamendra
Amitabh
Pataudi
Kaif

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Post by Aditya_V » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:29 am

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 636937.cms

Nice plan from C system, Hardik Patel, Pilot, Nath etc will go hammer and tongs at UP and Bihari Laborers and organise violence against them before elections like they have done before the recent elections and in UP SP-BSP will try and consolidate votes after the elections. These people are master politicans with Zero Governance.

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Post by Vikas » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 am

Aditya_V wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:29 am
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 636937.cms

Nice plan from C system, Hardik Patel, Pilot, Nath etc will go hammer and tongs at UP and Bihari Laborers and organise violence against them before elections like they have done before the recent elections and in UP SP-BSP will try and consolidate votes after the elections. These people are master politicans with Zero Governance.
Biggest problem with such plans is that They do work. Somehow Mango Indian still can't sift thru the fog and see the real picture.
Making one community fight with another and reap the benefit is a trick employed against Indians since the days of KalYavan.

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Post by Aditya_V » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:19 am

Yup We need to be ready for this

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Post by shravanp » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:28 pm

We also need to understand one more thing - one of the most important factor for BJP winning LS2014 was because of unpopularity/corrupt rule of Congress. This was more than Modi's popularity (regardless of his achievements as Guj CM). We are continuing to see more of such Congress unpopularity recently in MP/Raj/CG due to idiotic decisions by newly elected CMs. Add to that Rafale, EVM non-starter issues hogging the noise, will piss off people by large extent. I think thats good.

Aam junta desi votes and makes right decision when he is threatened or if his survival is at stake. When the aam junta is in 'feel good' state, he may risk by giving a benefit of doubt to candidates who are thugs (congoons, SP, BSP etc...)

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Post by JohnTitor » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:34 am

shravanp wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:28 pm
Aam junta desi votes and makes right decision when he is threatened or if his survival is at stake. When the aam junta is in 'feel good' state, he may risk by giving a benefit of doubt to candidates who are thugs (congoons, SP, BSP etc...)
Nothing so chanakyan about it.

Same janta votes for one of the following:
1- one who pays the most
2- one who promises to help his caste/religion
3- one who offers freebies
4- one who promises the moon, however unrealistic (including radically different governance)

Modi was helped a lot by #4 as Maun Mohan didn't perform during his second term. Modi was seen as someone who would make India a developed country in 5 years (all this was in voter's head, even if Modi didn't say so).

Of course, not to take away credit from Modi's work as CM.. that helped too, because GJ was/is much better governed for years before Modi's ascension. People expected magic in 5 years.

Remember, kujliwala was also elected for the same reason.. and not once, twice. The second time with almost 100% seats!

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Post by hanumadu » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:56 am

JohnTitor wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:34 am

Of course, not to take away credit from Modi's work as CM.. that helped too, because GJ was/is much better governed for years before Modi's ascension. People expected magic in 5 years.
IMHO, Modi did do magic.

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Post by Vikas » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:20 am

People vote someone in for various reasons and sometimes it is just the rejection of incumbent.
Voters vote based upon caste or community or religion because they do perceive some benefit in this strategy. Atleast a bottle of Daaru or a Saari or a crisp Gandhi on election day is a tangible benefit.

Bottom line is that not everyone is capable of making right decision during elections nor everyone has the intellect to look at the bigger picture. Most of the people I talk to don't even know if they are better off today than they were 5 years ago. Its all about 'How I feel' about the Govt/PM/CM etc.

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Post by chetak » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:54 am

hanumadu wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:56 am
JohnTitor wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:34 am

Of course, not to take away credit from Modi's work as CM.. that helped too, because GJ was/is much better governed for years before Modi's ascension. People expected magic in 5 years.
IMHO, Modi did do magic.
yes, but not the kind of magic that they demanded/wanted, especially the guys who did not vote Modi but very selfishly and opportunistically clambered on to the expected freeloader's bandwagon.

these are the "minorities" who are shouting the loudest that they have got nothing, when they have constitutionally sucked dry, the largesse of the majority from 1947 onwards and they are a now a permanent millstone around the neck of the nation, forever expecting to be carried and pampered by the state as well as the politicos.

special laws, special privileges, special people and special entitlements.

these guys are transactional in the extreme, their short term gains transcend everything, including the nation.

they want immediate returns, money in their pockets and benefits showered on them in perpetuity, from day one and the devil take the rest.

their short attention span and their innate selfishness in falling for empty rhetoric of the congis, commies and the naxals will be our downfall.

they take no responsibility for all those "church" attacks in dilli where they wilfully and maliciously defamed the majority, and lied through their teeth to get coverage in the ever complicit and venal international media, to quote just one example to show the lengths that they will go to "assert" their alleged "rights" and "fears".

In which other country in the world is the "minority" population increasing at the rate that it is increasing in the alleged "unsafe and bigoted" India??

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Post by chetak » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:15 am

Kanaka Durga seeks refuge in shelter home: Family of woman who entered Sabarimala disowns her days after attack by mum-in-law

Kanaka Durga seeks refuge in shelter home: Family of woman who entered Sabarimala disowns her days after attack by mum-in-law


Jan 23, 2019

Kanaka Durga, one of the women who created history by entering the Sabarimala Ayyappa temple after the 29 September Supreme Court order, has been taken to a shelter home by the police after being 'disowned' by her family, according to several media reports.

As per a report by The News Minute, Durga has been taken to the One Stop Centre in Perinthalmana run by the Social Justice Department on Tuesday after her husband and brother declared she won't be allowed to enter their homes. Her brother Bharat Bhushan — an RSS worker — alleged that the CPM and Kerala Police conspired to take Durga into the temple. He added that Durga would be allowed to return home only if she made a public apology to Ayyappa devotees and the Hindu community, The News Minute.

Perinthalmanna circle inspector TS Binu told The New Indian Express Durga has been given adequate security at the shelter home. Led by Perinthalmanna sub-inspector PS Manjith Lal, a 10-member police team has been deployed at the locality, The New Indian Express reported.

Durga was hospitalised on 15 January after she suffered injuries on her head and ear following the alleged beating by her mother-in-law. The 44-year-old approached Perinthalmanna police on Monday after she left the hospital from where she was taken to the nearby One Stop Centre. Earlier, the Supreme Court had ordered around the clock security to Durga and Bindu Ammini, the other woman of menstruating age who entered Sabarimala. Durga and Bindu offered prayers at Sabarimala temple on 2 January. However, according to reports, Durga's family was not aware of her plan to visit the hill shrine.

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