shravanp wrote:Bigger question is, what did MP/CG voters see in Congress to vote for it? Is Rahul Baba's stupidity finally appealing to masses?
Another question would be what was MP/CG BJP state level unit's own assessment of the situation. Okay, MP we can still it was a border line case. But in Chattisgarh the BJP (and State Govt. machinery) could not get any intelligence on what the voters feel? More than Rahul Baba, I guess the Congress poll-masters/tacticians did a good job.
KL Dubey wrote: I am sure there will be lots of analysis over the voting patterns of various groups, but I think in both MP and CG the results have been driven by local/state issues, not the Modi Sarkar. RJ is slightly different but again it is all about local issues. NaMo is hugely popular in all these states and will sweep LS seats.
The first message to go out to the BJP is that Narendra Modi is not a genie which comes out when some one rubs on a lamp. That works only in Arabian tales. BJP has to grow strong capable leaders in state level. They just cannot leave the hard job to Modi. I feel in CG this was what happened. Raman Singh & Co were far too complacent. And in MP I guess the BJP state leader ship tried their best. And RJ was another case where useless ex-queens etc. were deliberately allowed to have a free run. The various Rajes & Scindias are all part of one royal family, AFAIK. Some one from the gang would be in power always and their "royal" life can continue.
In RJ, they seem to have been enthused by Gehlot and Pilot, and by Kamalnath and Scindia in MP. I don't know about CG.
Tend to agree with you. At a local state level, Congress was able to put new clean often young leaders to the forefront. The BJP had no such faces. Looks like all the youngsters from Congress who won have a clean image. They may have won even if Ra.Ga did not do his bit. The BJP tried to run the show with old horses. Compare this with what BJP did in Tripura. There it was a young, enthusiastic, clean BJP man who actually kicked out the dinosaur communist oldies still dreaming about Stalin & Mao.
Raj Malhotra wrote:If we believe that Voters will vote for BJP in 2019 General elections, then it seems that there is no intention of course correction.
What course correction do you suggest? Hope it is not the old ways of the local traders (Hindus themselves) liberally cheating & minting money without paying a paisa as tax. Going back from being pro-MNC to the old days of certain business groups/clans/communities running the show liberally violating laws may not be the right away either. I have been seeing many stances changing; BJP supporters becoming extremely against the party. They may not explicitly say that; but the message I got was that these groups (Hindus; who had unaccounted wealth) hoped that BJP & Na.Mo would be their local level goonda whose help is required only if the Peacefools etc. start threatening them.
Chandragupta wrote: To become a rich country, we need people who are willing to sacrifice today for their children's tomorrow; people who are dedicated, focused & disciplined. Not us! Voters in India want freebies, they want government to borrow from future to pay for their bail out today. Instead of spending on roads, power houses, irrigation grids, they want loan waivers and subsidies.
I say pretty much the same to my own friends & relatives who have gone to US and now start dissing India. Fine as a country we have all these problems. But these people who jump the boat and settle in US, should also realise that their own contributions to make U.S of A is zilch. It was the early settlers in US (mainly from European countries) who did all the hard work and made U.S of A into what it is today. A few IT-Vity folks who joined them in late 1990s have not added any thing to the US history.
At best, we will become a 5-6 trillion economy and then implode in another 50 years when M population reaches 25-30%.
You sound like Churchill, but I tend to agree with you
. A country, society which has no self-respect will remain as slaves for ever. And today I only see
Dhimmitude in the rise. The higher the education, the higher is the
Dhimmitude.