Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:37 am
Does TDP know nothing better than try to bring dwn the govt. what a useless party
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2. The Counsel for Christian intervenors submits that #377IPC is Constitutionally valid. He submits that he has not been able to find the meaning of "order of nature". Justice Nariman observes that perhaps "order of nature" could mean "that which leads to procreation".
11:31 PM - 16 Jul 2018
14. The Counsel for Christian intervenors submits that striking down Section #377IPC would have a bearing on freedom of religion for Christians because #377IPC is not a Victorian import, but in fact has its basis in Leviticus and Genesis of the Christian Bible.
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I am willing to be corrected. Bengal commies have their ages against them. Most of the top leadership seems to be the old bhadralok vintage. And at present CPI(M) in Bengal is not on its best position. I don't think CPI(M) has a good presence in West Bengal state assembly to push Yechuri. Rajya Sabha MPs are decided by the state legislatures. CPI(M) splitting into two groups is only going to make the party a bigger laughing stock than what is the case now.RamaY wrote:What is the possibility of Yechuri/Bengal-commies splitting ways with Karat/Kerala-commies and getting him a RS seat?
Kerala CPI(M) leadership is pretty much a corporate/mafia now. The CPI(M) in KL controls lots of co.operative societies, and even runs a TV channel and water theme park in pure commercial terms. The top leadership has also ensured that their own kith & kin land up in lucrative name-sake posts in business houses (mainly in Middle East) started by Malayalis. The middle level leadership at many places have become regional bullies with many of them actively working along side Islamic fanatics and business houses. The lower rung cadres generally make a living through minor extortion, and playing the usual local dada role. All these characters jolly well know that their party can only be a state level party in KL. And they are quite happy with that because all their aims in life are met. The KL CPI(M) does NOT have the capabilities to look beyond KL and think at a national level. Their thought process just cannot rise up to that level. That is when Com.Yechuri comes with an idea of joining hands with Congress to uphold "secularism" at a national level. The KL CPI(M) cannot digest that because they have to have the Congress in KL as their "class enemy" (CPI(M) always requires some form of enemy. Without an "enemy" CPI(M) would die out).After all Kerala commies are in no great position looking into future.
Primus wrote:I think this is a bad idea on the part of the SC. You can bet there will be a number of women who will go with cameras in tow just to prove a point.
A tradition/belief system once broken is broken for good. Women devotees from KL may just keep up the tradition, but that cannot be said from women from other states. There were cases in which women devotees from other states tried to visit the shrine, but were detained by the police and sent back. These days they have a big shed/covered area to keep such women devotees safely, as they come with their men-folk who would proceed up the hill. What this whole episode proves is that Hinduism and its temples are now becoming open for a judicial establishment to decide the operating procedures & faith.Supratik wrote:One cannot blame the SC as it is just going to look at it from gender equality angle. It is going to be a judgement that will be only on paper. The only women who will violate the rules will be the urban naxal gangs and it is unlikely they will persist once the cameras are gone.
All people who have jumped from the BJP-ship has used the excuse of Modi-Shah style leadership. Has any one actually stated what is the problem with that type of leadership? I don't think so. All I can understand is that Modi-Shah style leadership is not some thing which the other wise political class and intellectuals in India are used to. To be frank there are lots of folks in the establishment who wants BJP to be a Congress plus some Hindutwa masala added in.crams wrote:What were his reasons? News reports say he was unhappy with Modi Shah style of leadership. What worries me is that if a seemingly loyal BJP stalwart is unhappy with the party to resign, are there other internal dissenters who will also jump ship?
With the majority which BJP has in Lok Sabha, TDP is going to do diddly-squat. Among the "seculars" they are demanding that each of them given a chance to present a no-confidence motion. Congress also wanted to give the first try .dnivas wrote:Does TDP know nothing better than try to bring dwn the govt. what a useless party
We hear a lot about the success of KL businessmen in Gelf.Sachin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:16 pmPinarayi [Vijayan] unhappy after meeting Modi.During the meeting, Modi handed over a list of projects for which the Centre had allocated funds but which had not been used.
^^^ Shows the political & business acumen of the Kerala based politicians. No skills in any sort of advance planning or preparation of basic data. These people are best fit to deal with Arab Sheikh businessmen (by being servile to them) or at the maximum Keralite business men in Middle East (through mafia tactics or shady agreements). Till 2014 all these folks from KL could hood wink people as some way or the other funds and proposals used to get passed through (though none get used/implemented). But that has changed now and their usual gimmicks don't work any more. Centre has given crores to states to upgrade their road infrastructure. KL's neighbour TN has utilised 100% of the funds and reported the same. Kerala's utilisation is 10% and folks go and ask for more money .
To be frank most of them started with small time businesses (mainly shops, super markets etc.) on an other wise unchartered territory - the Gelf. No other community (or nationality) could judge the potential of the place and perhaps did not bother to move their and start businesses. These Malayali businessmen (unlike politicians) were smart enough to cozy up with the Sheikhs which helped them flourish more. A story I have heard about a real big businessman in Kerala was that during the invasion of Kuwait he was the only chap who told the Sheikh that he would never abandon the country and flee with his money. This was when all other businessmen and business houses panicked and fled.RamaY wrote:We hear a lot about the success of KL businessmen in Gelf.
What kind of business they do besides manual labor contract management, trading agri products and gold etc? And of course real estate.
Huge! @RahulGandhi says no secrecy clause between India & France on #Rafale deal. Claims French President told him that. Accuses RM @nsitharaman of lying to the nation under pressure from @PMOIndia. Live on @IndiaToday. Claims cost of aircraft went up from Rs 520 cr to Rs 1600 cr
12:52 AM - 20 Jul 2018
FACT CHECK: French President told @IndiaToday 's @rajchengappa all facts cannot be revealed. @rahulkanwal with the details: https://twitter.com/sachinsingh1010/sta ... 8320146432 … (Did Congress President have all the facts?)
This is what the French President said on the Rafael deal. Rahul Gandhi is obviously talking out of his hat, as always...
https://twitter.com/amitmalviya/status/ ... 0835418112@RahulGandhi is a liar who is hiding behind parliamentary privilege to maliciously spread lies and misinformation.Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman busts Rahul Gandhi’s lies on Rafale deal in Parliament. The agreement of secrecy with France was signed on 25th January 2008 by then Defence Minister of UPA government A.K. Antony.
https://twitter.com/BJP4India/status/10 ... 0681091072
This is a preplanned move, tailored specifically to defame and vilify Modi. No legal action can be taken because it is covered under parliamentary privilege. Such a defamatory accusation can only be made in parliament and the accuser is safe from legal action. Nothing stops any and every TV channel from broadcasting it and going to town with it in terms of discussions by a panel of intellectuals all of whom will be very careful not to repeat any part of the accusations but will smear by innuendo and aspersions.shravanp wrote: ↑Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:04 pmThe question is, who's gonna buy RaGa's lies? Our bholi bhaali janta doesn't even know what Rafale is. And those who know, will laugh at RaGa's ignorance. Real Chankian is the one who understands the game on why exactly Congress is promoting RaGa as forerunner.
The Congoons have made so much money over the years that the slaves are salivating at the thought of getting a part of it. They think that by supporting the crooks they will one day inherit some of that loot.
shravanp wrote:The question is, who's gonna buy RaGa's lies? Our bholi bhaali janta doesn't even know what Rafale is.
It may not be that easy for the "seculars" to use this. Because as I write this I am seeing good posts in social media (which is getting shared as well) in which the official statement from the French government is getting circulated. Tomorrow before the news papers hits the stand with Ra.Ga's charge highlighted in big letters many folks would have already known about the true story. A link from India Today given below.chetak wrote:If it is said in parliament, and the same is broadcast without context, as a news item, complete with sexy anchor and TV channels name etc on youtube, whatsapp and facebook, there will be lots of takers for such propaganda.
Indicates that more than 4 years into the administration, seat share control of the LS remains effectively intact.
No-confidence motion: Dripping sarcasm, Narendra Modi gives Rahul Gandhi oratory lesson as NDA sails through
Sreemoy Talukdar Jul 21, 2018
On a day the no-confidence motion was defeated by a margin of 325-126, Narendra Modi showed yet again why he is nonpareil when it comes to oratorical skill. The prime minister took Rahul’s abuses and slogans head-on and turned it around in a masterful use of rhetoric to create political capital out of a seemingly tricky script. In the morning, an aggressive Rahul Gandhi, arms flailing and table-thumping had dared the prime minister to look into his eyes, and declared that prime minister’s “inner guilt” would not let him do so.
Modi rose to speak at the fag end of an exhausting day when the clock had well past the 9 pm mark. There were no exaggerated hand movements during his speech, but a mixture of biting sarcasm and factual rebuttals. He admitted that he indeed won’t be able to look directly at Rahul Gandhi. As the backward caste son of a poor mother, he doesn’t have the audacity to stare at an elitist dynast’s face. The satire was so thick that it could be cut with a knife.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi while delivering his speech in Lok Sabha on Friday.
"A member said that I can't look them in the eye. He is right. He is a big naamdaar while I am a backward caste man born of a poor mother. I am a simple kaamdaar. How dare I look them in the eye?" continued the prime minister, adding, “whenever anyone tried to look into their eyes — be it Subhas Chandra Bose, Morarji Desai, Jayaprakash Narayan, Chaudhary Charan Singh, Chandra Shekhar, HD Deve Gowda – see what happened to them. Sharad Pawar or even Pranab Mukherjee tied to look at them in the eye, look at the way they were discarded”.
The prime minister was trying to do multiple things at the same time. At one level, he was driving home the message that Congress is an elitist party that cannot tolerate the rising to power of someone from the fringes of the society. At the same time, he was also reminding the audience how one dynasty has permanently monopolised power within the Congress and has treated any challenger to their monopoly with contempt.
The citing of stalwarts, all past leaders of great eminence, was meant to inform a demographically young nation that Congress has become synonymous with one family -- with the larger message being that the country is suffering an unnatural ‘no-confidence motion’ inflicted on it by a party that has “neither the numbers or majority”, but still is desperate for power.
Modi next took on the epithet bhaagidar, which the Congress president had used earlier in the day to allege that the prime minister has received kickbacks in the Rafale jets deal. Modi gave it back with interest, claiming that he is indeed a chowkidar and a bhaagidar, but not a thekedar (contractor) or a saudagar (trader)’ like the Congress. In a rhetorical flourish, he claimed that he was indeed a bhaagidar (partner) of the poor in their poverty, the partner of the youth in their dreams, the partner of Indians in their quest for a better life, the partner the marginalised in their struggle.
The rhetorical craft of turning defence into an offensive posture isn’t new to Modi. This was one part of his strategy. He employed several strategies during his speech and played little games within games during a span of over one and a half hours. For instance, he placed Rahul’s gesture of a sudden ‘hug’ to the prime minister in the morning within the context of someone who can’t wait to grab the seat that Modi is seated on.
In the morning, the voting was not over, the debate was also not over one member comes running to me saying- Utho Utho Utho...
“It is the people who have put us in power, and we should have faith in democracy. Who gets to seat in the chair will be decided by the people,” he said. “We are here because we have the numbers, we are here because we have the people's mandate. Do not mock people's choice,” he reminded the Opposition. “They said I won’t be able to stand for 15 minutes if one member starts his speech,” said the prime minister in an oblique reference to Rahul Gandhi’s rhetoric. “Here I am, standing on the floor of the House.What is his hurry to come to power?
Let me tell this member it is the people who elected us. That is how we have come here: PM @narendramodi
— PMO India (@PMOIndia) July 20, 2018
One of the biggest talking points since the morning was Rahul Gandhi’s series of allegations against the prime minister on Rafale deal. While addressing the Lok Sabha during his speech, the Congress president had claimed that French president Emmanuel Macron in a private conversation revealed to him that there was no “secret clause” in the deal. Rahul had gone on to insinuate that Modi is corrupted, and had profited from the ‘dodgy deal’ the details of which he is now trying to hide.Main yahan khada bhi hun aur jo chaar saal kaam kare hain uspe adha bhi hun: PM Modi in Lok Sabha pic.twitter.com/ZuVeEQWo9R
— ANI (@ANI) July 20, 2018
Before the prime minister could respond, the Congress president received a setback when France’s Ministry of Europe and Foreign Affairs in a press statement in the evening, clarified that: “France and India concluded in 2008 a security agreement, which legally binds the two States to protect the classified information provided by the partner, that could impact security and operational capabilities of the defence equipment of India or France.”
Statement by the Spokesperson of the French Ministry of Europe and Foreign Affairs on the Security agreement, between France and India. https://t.co/EUMfhK3aML
— Alexandre Ziegler (@FranceinIndia) July 20, 2018
The BJP took the chance to rip apart Rahul’s claims on the floor of the House and amid the buzz of a privilege motion, the ruling party demanded an apology from the Congress president.
Modi took it up during one part of his speech, clarifying that it was a “government to government” deal which was well-negotiated and carried out between two governments, and “loose talks” about a national security issue is “juvenile” and dangerous. Modi would repeat this charge of childishness against Rahul on Doka La and ‘surgical strikes’. The obvious attempt was a reinforcement of Rahul Gandhi’s “immature” image that the Congress president is desperate to shake off.
The rest of the prime minister’s speech carried detailed rebuttals of Opposition’s charges on “lack of development” as he went on to give an account of all the development and structural initiatives that he has taken over the course of four years.
Interestingly, he appeared reticent about directly attacking Chandra Babu Naidu, despite TDP’s provocative and boorish behaviour during his speech but was more interested in blaming TDP’s woes on the way the state was bifurcated by Congress. Modi was keeping his options open.
Updated Date: Jul 21, 2018 00:13 AM