The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - Oct 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by hanumadu » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:44 am

JohnTitor wrote:I think what Modi's critics (well-wishers but purely policy critics) are saying is that there is no need for some of his schemes, like the money for marriage schemes that is only open to Muslims etc..
This I call being penny wise, pound foolish. Those are small amounts which barely make a dent in the budget. In many cases those schemes are good for Hindus are they are aimed at curbing muslim population by educating muslim women. BJP will need to show something to counter the opposition allegation that they are anti minority. It is also important to convince the tiny fraction, however tiny it is, among the minority that are not ideologically opposed to the BJP.
JohnTitor wrote:Neither does anyone believe that BJP should do things willy-nilly. Even UPA did all that it did, including looting, conversion etc all within the system. If the system didn't allow it, they changed the system. But everything was "by the books" .. which is why it's hard to find the guilty. They have all the branches of government in their pockets. BJP needs to change the system to get things done.
Congress did this because it had 70 years to do it. It had the full backing of the entire political spectrum behind it whereas BJP's own allies are balking at anything that can be perceived as pro Hindu. Instead of blaming the BJP, wouldn't you be better off building a consensus among the Hindus for Hindutva causes. If you wan't the BJP govt to take up the Hindu causes, why don't you spend efforts to enable it to do so. Not just the entire 'secular' parties in India are behind congress on muslim appeasement, they also have the backing of external forces in undermining Hindus.
JohnTitor wrote:It has become a fad to summarily term anyone who criticizes BJP as ani-india or pro-INC or trolls. Yes these people are there but the topic at hand should stand on its own merit. Failure to do so will lead to another"India shining" campaign. I recall during that time, everyone here (BRF) was so blind to issues being brought forward.. and the prevailing sentiment on the forum was the BJP would not only return to power, but do so with a larger mandate.
There are many people who use the delay on Hindutva agenda to whip up anti Modi sentiments. And there are people who advocatevoting NOTA. Yogi's statement asking for patience makes it clear that there is no merit in core right's argument. People were very patient with core right and tried to reason with them and they still do. But they continue to play spoilsport.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by hanumadu » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:15 am

Sachin wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:11 am
Chandragupta wrote:This Govt is shooting itself in the foot by being on the back foot.
Sushma Swaraj is now in a face saving mode. She knows that she has goofed up on this case big time.
People were more pissed off by her playing the victim card. All she had to do was shut up and reject the passports on some pretext. But she tagged RW stalwarts with more than a lakh followers as trolls, the same people who come to the defense of BJP and their ministers every day. Now she is untagging them silently. :lol:

Another person is Vijay Chautaiwale or something who acted smart with a long time BJP supporter and I ended up abusing some one on the twitter for the first time.

Some how the idiots don't seem to get it that Hindus are not congis or libtards who get paid to endure abuse. That pioneer news paper guy and Anurag Thakur also ridiculed their supporters on cricket with porkis and they had to apologize. One would expect their colleagues to not repeat their mistakes one year before the elections.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Supratik » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:48 am

Pratusyh, hanumadu good posts.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by kvjayan » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:19 am

From Twitter:

"Where secularism starts Constitution ends!"

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:21 pm

Tanvi Seth Aka Sadia Anas Fails Address Check; Passport May Be Blocked If Police Verification Turns Inconclusive
As per a fresh report by Hindi daily Amar Ujala, it has emerged that when the police went to Tanvi’s in-laws’ house in Qaiserbagh, Lucknow, they did not find any proof that Tanvi had been residing there. As per rules, a person needs to be living at the mentioned place for at least a year, the report said. The police have not concluded their verification yet but told the newspaper that Tanvi’s location till 14 June is traced to Noida based on her call records.

Another report by Hindi daily Dainik Jagran elaborates on how the due process was ignored while issuing Tanvi a passport. The report says while she was handed the passport on the evening of 21 June, it was only on a day later on 22 June that the office got the documents of her details. The report says that the officials simply made Tanvi write on a paper that she was working for a Noida company under a work-from-home arrangement.

The report also said the office’s head V P Singh is on leave and is not clued in on the matter.

Reports are speculating that Tanvi’s passport may be rejected if details provided by her are found to be incorrect. Meanwhile, passport officer Vikas Mishra has an inquiry set up against him based on Tanvi’s allegations and he continues to remain posted in Gorakhpur where he was immediately transferred after the controversy.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by RamaY » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:04 pm

Q: What is the PURPOSE of Hindu Rashtra?

A: Vikas of Hindus.

Q: What is Vikas?

A: Vikas means Toilets, Houses, Jobs, Loans to Innovate & start businesses, Civic Infrastructure, Money to spend.

Q: What happens when Hindus get Vikas?

A: Hindus have safer & better lifestyle. Hindus will get to spend their money on whatever they want.

Q: Where do Hindus spend their money?

A: Hindus spend their money on “being Hindu”.

Q: What is meaning of “Being Hindu”?

A: Living life of a Hindu. Enjoying Wealth & Life in a Dharmic manner.

Q: What is Dharmic living?

A: A life style in congruence with Satya, Saucha, Bhuta Daya and Nishkama Karma.

Q: What is Dharmic Satya?

A: Dharmic Satya is “You are part of & full of God consciousness”. Live like a God who encompasses everything & pervades everything.

Q: What is Dharmic God Consciousness?

A: Dharmic God consciousness is “ParitrANaya sAdhunAm, VinaSaya cha dushkrutAm, Dharma SamsthapanAthAya sambhavami Yuge Yuge”. You keep taking birth/avatar again and again to protect the good and destroy the evil.

Q: What is Dharmic Saucha?

A: Dharmic Saucha is combination of Subhrata, Swachata, Sundarata & Pavitrata. Cleanliness, Hygiene, Aesthetics and Spirituality.

Q: What is Dharmic Bhutadaya?

A: Compassion towards Flora-Fauna as equal partners in our lives. Understand the Ecological equilibrium & reduce human ecological footprint to minimum

Q: What is Dharmic Nishkama Karma?

A: Willingness to do Dharmic Karma. Inaction is death. Emphasize on doing Dharmic Action, not on results. Accepting consequences of our Karma.

Q: What is Hindutva?

A: Political power to Hindus as owners of Bharatiya Civilization. The nation state of Bharat must be Hindu and Hindu alone. In one sentence - Establishment of Hindu Rashtra!

(Now go back to first question and read again)

What attracts both poor/educated Hindus alike about western civilization to the extent of becoming cryptos or christians? It is Money, materialistic life style, civic infra & Jobs. Goddammit Vikas again!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by kvjayan » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:25 pm

With national elections approaching, feud within BJP seems to be taking an interesting turn:

Su Swamy in a tweet: "On July 8 th public meeting in Mumbai Rajiv Malhotra I will unveil the conspiracy of the Gang of Four to topple Namo Govt".

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by hanumadu » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:40 pm

Supratik wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:48 am
Pratusyh, hanumadu good posts.
Thank you Sir.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Chandragupta » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:42 pm

There is clear internal sabotage. Finance sec Adhia is said to be sabotaging Chidambaram’s case by trying to remove the ED officer (Rajeshwar Singh), even GoI’s ASG argued against him (singh). Now Dir-ED himself has come to the defense of his officer. This is open sabotage. And GoI covering it up by releasing the surgical strike footage.

Is Modi even in charge? And if he is, then what the F is going on?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by KL Dubey » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:18 pm

Chandragupta wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:42 pm
Is Modi even in charge? And if he is, then what the F is going on?
Like Dr. Swamy says, *everyone* who is complicit must be brought to book. He has said before that he is in full support of NaMo alone and will protect him at any cost.

The statement quoted above (is Modi even in charge?) is disingenuous. If you can propose "conspiracy theories" like this one, you should also admit the counter-conspiracy theory that NaMo and Shah know it all and are letting Swamy expose the sabotage rather than having to wade in themselves

I wonder why there seems to have developed a shrill agenda on this forum to quickly castigate NaMo (and his sarkar) for everything that is going on. That is not sabotage, huh ? :roll:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Gus » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:40 pm

Modi this Modi that Modi do this Modi why don’t you do this

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by SSundar » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:01 am

Sachin wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:11 am
See what is happening in KA. BJP decides to wait and watch amid trouble in coalition. There would be enough and more "BJP lovers" who would be advising Yeddy & Co to topple the government. But no, BJP as a party would have a good plan. But for now it is time for Jr.Gowdru to actually get stewed in his own juice. The state is having a totally non-functional government. The KA govt. looks like is retained only to show people that this Mahathugbandhan non-sense is a non-flyer.
My "wish" was always that BJP should come out strong but not form the government in KA - for superstition reasons. It turned out to be good for a couple of other reasons as well - (1) What results to expect if the Mahathugbandhan "wins" in 2019 (2) What results to expect if urban middle class stays home or goes NOTA. Both will be positive for BJP.

The only thing I did not like - Yeddi taking office and giving the impression of horse-trading. It lost some sympathy to BJP. Not sure why they did that. Perhaps to get sympathy through that touchy-feely assembly speech a'la Vajpayee.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Rahul M » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:53 am

today's pioneer says that the govt placed a sealed adverse report on ED's rajeswar singh with the SC. the report originates from RAW apparently. using this report govt wants to probe singh's links with a dubai based ISI agent ! strange happenings all around.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by RajaRaja » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:04 am

Addressing Ambassadors and High Commissioners, Sushma Swaraj said Eid brings together people of all faiths in India as the concept of 'Vasudaiva Kudumbakam' — meaning the world is one family — is ingrained in the ethos of the country.
Sushma Swaraj hosts Eid celebrations for envoys, says India won’t allow forces of hatred to disrupt ties

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by JohnTitor » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:06 am

Err doesn't that favour chiddu? Strange indeed!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Chandragupta » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:34 am

CholaBhaturi wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:04 am
Addressing Ambassadors and High Commissioners, Sushma Swaraj said Eid brings together people of all faiths in India as the concept of 'Vasudaiva Kudumbakam' — meaning the world is one family — is ingrained in the ethos of the country.
Sushma Swaraj hosts Eid celebrations for envoys, says India won’t allow forces of hatred to disrupt ties
What a load of bullshit. Eid and vasudaiva kudumbakam? This lady has gone senile.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Chandragupta » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:38 am

Gus wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:40 pm
Modi this Modi that Modi do this Modi why don’t you do this
282 seats ka aasman se aayi thi?

Did 282 seats come from the sky? Every seat was for Modi only. Do you even realise what is happening? In one of the marquee cases of corruption, it is the GoI's own ASG sabotaging the case by going after the Jt.Dir ED who had been hounded by PC during UPA era. And they used a RAW report showing that he was linked to Dubai/ISI somehow. RAW comes under PMO. Dir-ED then issued a press release going to the extent of calling Singh an outstanding officer. He did receive the tip from Dubai but like any honest officer, he informed his seniors & the department of all the facts. Its chaos. Only PC & Congis benefit from this.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Sachin » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:47 am

kvjayan wrote:With national elections approaching, feud within BJP seems to be taking an interesting turn:
A similar thing is happening in social media groups of BJP in Kerala as well. The local BJP leadership has done nothing to support a lady BJP worker who was abused and insulted on social media by a worthless mimicry artist (a peacefool). The same BJP leadership idiots were all up in arms to support some jobless movie actresses. The social media groups have exposed the charlatans in BJP leadership of Kerala. They have even reached out to Amit Shah (on social media) clearly telling him that the state BJP leadership are useless :lol:.
Chandragupta wrote:Is Modi even in charge? And if he is, then what the F is going on?
Modi is not the local beat policeman who is available 24/7 and dealing with every single issue. What is his ministers doing? One honest man can only do a limited set of activities. I would not be surprised that Fin.Min like Jaitley and Chidu have a good understanding. And Modi for what ever seasons is NOT able to send Jaitlee packing to his home. And as others pointed out, we can also assume that Modi too knew all this and have allowed this to play out for a specific reason. We at times are forgetting that Na.Mo and A.Shah are not "babes in the woods".
JohnTitor wrote:Err doesn't that favour chiddu? Strange indeed!
I don't think so. One officer may have shady dealings with ISI (let us believe the sealed report for now). But did that officer alone handle Chidu's case? Did he gather all evidences against Chidu? There would be other officers who are also involved in the investigations and they can be the IO when it comes to fighting the case in court. This incident how ever can be a bullying tactic against the ED officers.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Sachin » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:17 am

National...
Modi govt politicising surgical strikes: Congress

Karnataka State level...
JD(S) should have bargained better with Cong: leaders; tells the JD(S) leader to Sr. Gowda.
Siddaramaiah’s show of might leaves Congress in a fix. The show of strength was the visiting of many Congress MLAs to the place where Siddu was undergoing some treatment.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Vikas » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:27 am

Could it be that reality has lots of shades of Grey in it.
What if ED-Dir as well RAW both are right. Anyways we don't even know the contents of the envelope but when it comes to optics, NM sarkaar isn't doing as much as voters expected them to do.

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Post by Indrad » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:56 am

Rahul M wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:53 am
today's pioneer says that the govt placed a sealed adverse report on ED's rajeswar singh with the SC. the report originates from RAW apparently. using this report govt wants to probe singh's links with a dubai based ISI agent ! strange happenings all around.
sorry to say su swamy will have to eat humble pie and mellow down at last...
cos Aadhia is more strong than Swamy in PMO
Ketli is stronger than swamy in PMO
And PC is not easy to nail either in court...with his reach within and out ...


in the other news President Kovind was inconvenienced at Puri temple , matter picking up now....https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... s?from=mdr

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Post by Indrad » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:11 am

https://twitter.com/Nidhi/status/1012034551198240770

in another low Nidhi Razdan has tagged employer of some one disagreeing with her.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Indrad » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:33 am

https://hindi.news18.com/news/uttar-pra ... 30396.html

muslims put huge posters that they are migrating from Merrut UP cos police doesn;t listen to them.

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Post by chetak » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:40 pm

Indrad wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:56 am
Rahul M wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:53 am
today's pioneer says that the govt placed a sealed adverse report on ED's rajeswar singh with the SC. the report originates from RAW apparently. using this report govt wants to probe singh's links with a dubai based ISI agent ! strange happenings all around.
sorry to say su swamy will have to eat humble pie and mellow down at last...
cos Aadhia is more strong than Swamy in PMO
Ketli is stronger than swamy in PMO
And PC is not easy to nail either in court...with his reach within and out ...


in the other news President Kovind was inconvenienced at Puri temple , matter picking up now....https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... s?from=mdr
adhia is not as powerful as he thinks that he is. That gulf conversation of rajeswar singh was one call only and it was incoming too. It resulted in some heavy weight prosecution and the conversation was also reported to rajeswar singh's superiors' by rajeswar singh himself when it happened.

aadhia missed the chance to become cabinet secretary because the incumbent got himself an extension. This has been adverse fall out of aadhia's handling of the enforcement directorate and la affaire nirav modi. Obviously, it is the same old panties in a twist syndrome being used by a langote wearing specimen.

Wheels within wheels, but he is still a powerful guy but not so powerful that he can take on Swamy and live to tell the tale.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Indrad » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:48 pm

chetak sir heard that from a fly on the wall...pls wait and you will know soon...swamy dada;s only recourse is court and he will have to revolt against Modi close employees!

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