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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Singha » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:18 pm

are Yezdi bikes still around?

in my days it was considered a speed demon street bike and all the town hoodlums and sports club dadas used to ride it , with shirts open down to navel.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Karthik » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:20 pm

Haven't seen them for over a decade. One more was Java. Both 250CC noisy hoodlums bikes.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Sridhar k » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:49 pm

My dad had one and rode 1lakh km. He bought it from a chennai racer, a free flow exhaust, sport carb, dual tone custom paint with a front fairing. It used to very noisy such that we could here it from a km far.
Finally he detuned it with a rajdoot carb, normal exhaust aftet finding it unviable to run.

Now Mahindra has bought the rights for the defunct jawa

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Singha » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:40 pm

Rajdoot - ah a forgotten name. my elder cousin had a D175 which looked pretty sober and family oriented. the Rajdoot D350 was perceived as a more refined beast than the bullet in those days.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Karthik » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:53 pm

I miss Ambassador, wish govt stepped in and saved the legendary car.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Singha » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:27 pm

:rotfl:
it was not a indian design at all.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Karthik » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:33 pm

Tho kya hua bhayya? It was manufactured by HM, had rugged and solid build. Have many memories of it.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Gus » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:40 pm

We had the old yezdi of 70s. They stopped it after onslaught of jap-Indian makes starting late 80s. There was a relaunch model - roadking. It did not pick up as people were more kmpl conscious. Splendor gives 80 and yezdi will give 35 at best. It's a collector thing now, as well as the RD350.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Gus » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:42 pm

Everybody likes to say they have fond memories of amby but nobody will put their money where their mouth is. HM had all the opportunities to diversify product range and grow. Ambys days reflect our failures more than success.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Sridhar k » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:44 pm

It was one of the most unsafe cars around. Piece of nostalgia yes and reminiscent of license raj. I recently travelled on one of them from Chennai airport and not as comfortable as one perceives it to be
It was quite comfortable when compared to premier padmini which was very cramped. The isuzu diesel engine used on it was a pretty good one though

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Gus » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:50 pm

I've been to their factory in WB actually. Worst plant ever visited. Workers openly drinking out of their oil cans :shock: (filled with alcohol and smuggled inside) ...one board claiming that number of hammers used has reduced from X to Y ..when it should really be zero :lol:

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Singha » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:08 pm

The hero honda cd100 and kawasaki kb100 are true classic pathbreakers of our schooli days

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Karthik » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:12 pm

Nothing beats Yamaha Rx100. It could hold its own even now.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Javee » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:23 pm

Singha wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:18 pm
are Yezdi bikes still around?

in my days it was considered a speed demon street bike and all the town hoodlums and sports club dadas used to ride it , with shirts open down to navel.
Production stopped, but do you know it was made in Mysore. There is a thriving second hand market in Yezdi with large riding population in big cities. I was planning to buy one last year, but backed off thinking I may not have time to ride it.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Mort Walker » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:24 pm

Is anyone here into auto detailing? There seems to be a real lack of availability of good auto detailing materials in India. At least I can’t find them in major 2nd tier cities.

In India I find that many cars come without a clear coat unlike the US, even though they cost the same.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Mort Walker » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:25 pm

Singha wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:08 pm
The hero honda cd100 and kawasaki kb100 are true classic pathbreakers of our schooli days
From what I see many bikes in desh are about 125cc nowadays.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Karthik » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:28 pm

Mort Walker wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:25 pm
Singha wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:08 pm
The hero honda cd100 and kawasaki kb100 are true classic pathbreakers of our schooli days
From what I see many bikes in desh are about 125cc nowadays.
You could say 150cc. Hardly any bike lower than that unless we are talking about mopeds. 200cc is common, which will be the norm in few years time.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by KarthikSan » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:39 pm

Karthik wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:28 pm
Mort Walker wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:25 pm
Singha wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:08 pm
The hero honda cd100 and kawasaki kb100 are true classic pathbreakers of our schooli days
From what I see many bikes in desh are about 125cc nowadays.
You could say 150cc. Hardly any bike lower than that unless we are talking about mopeds. 200cc is common, which will be the norm in few years time.
Nope. Splendor is still the largest selling bike followed by HF Deluxe.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Shandilya » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:12 pm

Singha wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:40 pm
Rajdoot - ah a forgotten name. my elder cousin had a D175 which looked pretty sober and family oriented. the Rajdoot D350 was perceived as a more refined beast than the bullet in those days.
Not from my duniyaa ka kona, Rajdoot was more of a doodhwala / dhobighat bike whereas bullet was bolismaan / fauji / dada bike.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by KJo » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:40 pm

Karthik wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:20 pm
Haven't seen them for over a decade. One more was Java. Both 250CC noisy hoodlums bikes.
Yezdi and Jawa are the same. The company was Ideal Jawa in Mysore.
The last Maharaja of Mysore H.H Jayachamarajendra Wadiyar provided land for the company so it was named after him Ja and Wa after his initials. The brand name later on was changed to Yezdi after a town in Iran where the founding family (Iranian Parsis) came from (Yazd in Iran). F.K Irani was the founder and was a bad aadmi in Mysore.

During my childhood Ideal Jawa had many employees whom we knew. Our local library wallah worked there during the day and ran the library during the evenings. Then it ran into Union problems and shut down in the 80s. They opened intermittently but then closed for good in the mid 90s. They sold the land off to developers and apartments are coming up. :roll:
This is what used to be the Ideal Jawa campus.

Ideal Jawa campus

The last Yezdi bike that I remember seeing was a Yezdi 175. I think it was around 1989.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Singha » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:55 am

I used to think jawa was name of czech parent co

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Sridhar k » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:56 am

Mort Walker wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:24 pm
Is anyone here into auto detailing? There seems to be a real lack of availability of good auto detailing materials in India. At least I can’t find them in major 2nd tier cities.

In India I find that many cars come without a clear coat unlike the US, even though they cost the same.
Not much personally but know a few of detailing enthusiasts in Chennai and Bangalore. One of them has quit his job and turned professsional. Lot of stuff is available through online. Check the detailing threads in gearheads.in

All cars in India does with clearcoat these days but get damaged soon pretty soon because the layer is very thin especially on the Jap origin ones. The other reason is due to bad maintenanance practices, rubbing and polishing done by local garages, authorized service centers. 3M rules the roost here and their products are on the abrasive side.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Javee » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:45 am

Singha wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:55 am
I used to think jawa was name of czech parent co
Yes, AFAIK Jawa is the parent and that company exists in a different form in Czech. The ckd version were called Jawa and Yezdi was Indian made product. The company was killed by labor issues and then the Japanese bikes that came after, that were more reliable and clean burning than Yezdi.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by KJo » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:16 am

It could be. But this version was also widely circulated, so it is possible that they used both connections.

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Re: Car and Bike thread

Post by Sridhar k » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:42 am

Yes. Jawa is Czech and now Mahindra has now got the rights for the name as they plan to bring the legacy back.

175 was the response to the Japanese products but failed. Ours was a 1978 yezdi model, our family friend had a roadking 350. We had different versions of Rajdoot at home including the non doodhwala version of RD175. Rd350 was an yamaha and apparently MSD owns a few.

RE tried the crusader, mini bullet and the fury 175 in collaboration with Zundapp. Fury handlebar is a craze among the bikers those days. My uncle boight the 1985 Ind suzuki which i inherited and sold it in 2004

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