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Re: Nukkad

Post by Gus » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:24 am

apparently Cohen's recordings of conversations with Trump are not covered under attorney-client privilege and thus are admissible as evidence. YIKES.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:14 am

SITAPUR (UTTAR PRADESH): A railway coach was swiftly turned into a makeshift maternity ward after a passenger developed labour pain while travelling on the Jan Nayak Express on Monday night.

Suman Devi, 30, was traveling on the train with her husband to Gorakhpur in Uttar Pradesh for her delivery when she developed labour pain. As the train approached Sitapur, her condition worsened, a railway official said.

Her husband Hari Om approached Station Officer - Government Railway Police (GRP) Sitapur, Suresh Yadav, for help. The official promptly attended to the situation with the help of who a doctor and a woman constable.

The official wasted no time in arranging for the delivery inside the bogey with the help of a few women passengers.

Suman gave birth to a boy, and in the meantime, an ambulance was arranged to take her and the child to the district hospital in Sitapur.


The train was delayed for about an hour, the official said, adding the mother and son were doing fine.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by chetak » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:10 am

The minute some nutcase is chosen BJP "leader", this is the result.

Why can't they simply keep their mouths shut and get on with their jobs??





Internet, satellite communication existed during Mahabharata era: Tripura CM Biplab Kumar Deb

Internet, satellite communication existed during Mahabharata era: Tripura CM Biplab Kumar Deb
18th April 2018


AGARTALA: Tripura Chief Minister Biplab Kumar Deb on Tuesday claimed that Internet and satellite communication existed in the days of Mahabharata.

"Internet and satellite communication had existed in the days of Mahabharata. Sanjaya (the charioteer of king Dhritarashtra) using the technology gave a detailed account and description to the blind king about the battle of Kurukshetra," Deb said while inaugurating a two-day workshop on computerisation of Public Distribution System (PDS).

The BJP leader said: "The Europeans and the Americans may claim that it is their invention, but it is actually our technology. Internet and satellite system had existed during the lakhs of years ago."

"How could Dhritarashtra see through Sanjay's eyes? There was technology available at that time... Internet was there, satellite communication was there," the 47-year-old Chief Minister said very confidentially and repeatedly.


Deb heads the BJP-Indigenous People's Front of Tripura coalition government that came in power last month after defeating the Communist Party of India-Marxist-led Left Front first time in 25 years.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by saip » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:45 pm

chetak wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:10 am
The minute some nutcase is chosen BJP "leader", this is the result.

Why can't they simply keep their mouths shut and get on with their jobs??





Internet, satellite communication existed during Mahabharata era: Tripura CM Biplab Kumar Deb

Internet, satellite communication existed during Mahabharata era: Tripura CM Biplab Kumar Deb
18th April 2018


AGARTALA: Tripura Chief Minister Biplab Kumar Deb on Tuesday claimed that Internet and satellite communication existed in the days of Mahabharata.

"Internet and satellite communication had existed in the days of Mahabharata. Sanjaya (the charioteer of king Dhritarashtra) using the technology gave a detailed account and description to the blind king about the battle of Kurukshetra," Deb said while inaugurating a two-day workshop on computerisation of Public Distribution System (PDS).

The BJP leader said: "The Europeans and the Americans may claim that it is their invention, but it is actually our technology. Internet and satellite system had existed during the lakhs of years ago."

"How could Dhritarashtra see through Sanjay's eyes? There was technology available at that time... Internet was there, satellite communication was there," the 47-year-old Chief Minister said very confidentially and repeatedly.


Deb heads the BJP-Indigenous People's Front of Tripura coalition government that came in power last month after defeating the Communist Party of India-Marxist-led Left Front first time in 25 years.
It is better to keep quiet and thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt --- Abe Lincoln

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Vikas » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:49 am

So unless White world recognizes it or discovers it, We should keep quiet about any of our achievements ?
He may have used bland language though.

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Post by chetak » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:38 am

Vikas wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:49 am
So unless White world recognizes it or discovers it, We should keep quiet about any of our achievements ?
He may have used bland language though.
When there is already so much of antagonism and people are waiting for a chance, ANY CHANCE, why give the libturds another cause to malign us with?? The libturds mortally fear a Modi return.

The RSS has learned to keep its mouth shut because the same libturds were waiting to pounce, twist, misinterpret and generate untoward propaganda.

This is the run up to 2019. All functionaries should be careful and aid the cause. If one can't help the cause, one must not also deter the cause.

White jokers are not involved in this.

Yes, he could have conveyed the very same message in a much more bland and diplomatic way.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Shandilya » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:34 pm

Vikas wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:49 am
So unless White world recognizes it or discovers it, We should keep quiet about any of our achievements ?
He may have used bland language though.
Exactly, we need more people to come out and speak their mind. Why the heck should we restrict self to microblogging sites termed conspiratorial? or television serials termed fictional or mythological?

Just shed the "Log kya khaegay" fears and voice your beliefs out in open, let the libtards contradict popular notions of majority and see how it plays out for them. There is no wrong time to do this, only right time i.e. whenever one wakes up from the colonial slumber.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Gus » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:28 pm

this sort of outraging is very petty. we don't know if he meant it or was making a joke. We joke that ganesh had a plastic surgery blah blah. what sort of people take that seriously and contest from science and argue how it's impossible to replace heads and that too from a different species etc.

on the other hand..I welcome Tripura to the spotlight that UP and Gujarat have. :lol:

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Re: Nukkad

Post by chetak » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:07 pm

The damaged part was most likely to have been by Safran Aircraft Engines. CFM International is a joint venture between GE Aviation [US] and Safran Aircraft Engines [France].


‘Uncontained’ CFM56-7 Failures: Southwest B737-700s 27 August 2016 & 17 April 2018
The US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has issued a press release, in advance of a preliminary report, on a occurrence to Boeing 737-700 N766SW operating Southwest Airlines Flight 3472, from New Orleans, Louisiana to Orlando, Florida on 27 August 2016.

A second, seemingly very similar event occurred to N772SW operating Flight 1380 from New York-La Guardia, NY to Dallas-Love Field, Texas on 17 April 2018. In that case debris penetrated a cabin window aft of the wing and one passenger is confirmed to have died (early reports suggest they had been partly sucked through the window). This was Southwest’s first passenger fatality ever and the first Part 121 fatality since February 2009.

The First Accident Flight 27 August 2016
One fan blade of the left hand CFM56-7B engine separated from the fan disc during the cruise. The root of that blade remained in the fan disc hub but the blade was not recovered.

The Second Accident Flight 17 April 2018
The aircraft departed at 09:43 and by 10:04 was passing 32,500ft when the no 1 engine failed. Debris impacted the side of the fuselage shattering a passenger window resulting in a loss of cabin pressure. The crew initiated an emergency descent, shut the engine down and diverted to Philadelphia, PA, landing at 10:19. It is reported that:

Consequently the entire left engine inlet separated from the engine, with debris damaged the fuselage, wing and empennage. A 5 x 16 inch hole was made in the fuselage just above the left wing and the cabin depressurised (though no engine debris penetrated the cabin).

The aircraft diverted to Pensacola, Florida and made a safe landing, 18 minutes later. None of the 99 passengers and 5 crew onboard were injured

The NTSB call this an uncontained failure, though it is not clear if the fan blade exited radially (the true definition of uncontained) or axially (i.e. forward). Either way, the out of balance forces resulted in an unexpected failure of the inlet structure.

Investigation Findings
The CFM56 fan blades are manufactured of titanium alloy and are coated with a copper-nickel-indium alloy at the root contact face.

Initial findings from the NTSB Materials Laboratory metallurgical examination include:

The fracture surface of the missing blade showed curving crack arrest lines consistent with fatigue crack growth. The fatigue crack region was 1.14-inches long and 0.217-inch deep, and
The center of the fatigue origin area was about 2.1 inches aft of the forward face of the blade root. No surface or material anomalies were noted during an examination of the fatigue crack origin using scanning electron microscopy and energy-dispersive x-ray spectroscopy.

The NTSB subsequently confirmed that the woman, seated in seat 14A, had died. Seven others were treated for minor injuries. There were 5 crew and 143 passengers on board.

Engine nacelle damage was very similar to the earlier incident with a released fan blade and loss of the nacelle intake. Additionally the outer fan cowl door separated and the inner door was badly damaged and open. Leading edge damage was also evident on the left wing.

The engine “had 40,000 cycles on it, a quarter of those since it was overhauled” said Southwest CEO Gary Kelley.

The CFM56 family has achieved more than 350 million engine hours and powers around 6,700 aircraft worldwide.

UPDATE 18 April 2018: Video of on scene NTSB press conference 17 April 2018 by NTSB chairman Roger Sumwalt.

The CVR and FDR have been returned to Washington and the CVR has already been downloaded.
Cowling debris has been located at Bernville, Pennsylvania, about 60-70 miles west of Philadelphia.
The crew elected to land with the flaps at 5 degrees (rather than 30 or 40) at a higher approach speed due to concerns of potential controllability issues.

The NTSB have started that blade 13 (of 24) failed “at the hub” and there was evidence of fatigue.
The NTSB say Southwest plan an accelerated ultrasonic inspection programme.
Sumwalt praised the crew. The Captain is reported to be a former US Navy aviator.

UPDATE 19 April 2018: The NTSB say blade broke in two places: “near where the blade meets the engine hub” and halfway along its length. An “internal crack likely caused the break near the hub, which then caused the mid-blade facture”. The NTSB say the FDR showed that as left hand engine ran down, vibration increased significantly and the cabin altitude alert sounded shortly afterwards indicating the cabin pressure had exceeded a pressure equal to 13,500-14,000ft altitude. The aircraft also made a rapid uncommanded roll to 41.3º left bank. The NTSB released pictures of the nacelle debris.




The damaged engine and the aircraft

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The Ex navy fast jet pilot Tammie Jo Shults captained Flight 1380 to a Philadelphia airport in Tuesday's emergency

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The damaged engine a CFM56-7B

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The cutaway drawing of a similar engine

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The lady pax who unfortunately died

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Jennifer Riordan (R) with husband Michael and their two children

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Re: Nukkad

Post by KJo » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:51 pm

The late Grand Mahdi of FrootCo speaking at MIT. Newly surfaced video (Dec 2017)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI

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Re: Nukkad

Post by chetak » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:35 am

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Shakuni » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:27 am

Gurus, can anyone translate this?
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This is from the Panchatantra. I am debating a rabid SJW desi-feminist (of the South Asian studies type), and she quoted a 19th Century translation of this phrase suggesting it was indicative of how badly women have been treated. I tracked down the precise Sanskrit text, but even the Hindi translation that I read along doesn't seem to suggest anything anti-women.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Chandragupta » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:50 am

I can make out Bhogin, Kutila, kroo-chestita from the first line. Bhogin means a woman who partakes in the material world; Kutila means crooked; kroor - means cruel and chestita - probably means intention. I can't make out what is written in the second line.

Added later - in the link you shared, there is absolutely nothing regarding women. You have nailed the SJW, don't let her go.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by chetak » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:35 pm

twitter

always trust a Hindu to f(uk Hindus, even at Venkateshwara's abode in Tirupati.

the revenge of naidu?? :twisted:
MLA Anitha is openly admitting that she is a Christian.

AP govt. appointed her as TTD (Tirumala Tirupathi Devasthanam) board member.

Friends! Let’s all request & pray to AP govt to take appropriate action on this
https://twitter.com/madhurasreedhar/sta ... 6604322816

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Post by chetak » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:11 pm

chetak wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:35 pm
twitter

always trust a Hindu to f(uk Hindus, even at Venkateshwara's abode in Tirupati.

the revenge of naidu?? :twisted:
MLA Anitha is openly admitting that she is a Christian.

AP govt. appointed her as TTD (Tirumala Tirupathi Devasthanam) board member.

Friends! Let’s all request & pray to AP govt to take appropriate action on this
https://twitter.com/madhurasreedhar/sta ... 6604322816
crypto for sure, availed Hindu reservation benefits in addition to the usual padre rice bag.

Trying desperately to avoid inquiry into her real status and reservations that she has fraudulently used.

TDP MLA Vangalapudi Anitha writes to Andhra CM N Chandrababu Naidu over her nomination to Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams board requesting him to withdraw her appointment as a member of the board, writes 'I do not want this controversy to cause embarrassment to you & govt'.
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Re: Nukkad

Post by arshyam » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:07 pm

^^ There may be more to this than meets the eye - the YSRC has been at the forefront of accusing her of being a christian. Ironic if that's true :lol:

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/as-tdp-fa ... nomination
As reported by The Hindu, the said MLA reverted threatening to sue the YSR Congress Party for making the ‘doctored’ video go viral and refuted all claims of her being a Christian. Presenting various affidavits and certificates to show that she was a Hindu, she accused her rivals in YSR Congress party of jealousy and having 'cut and paste' her interview to a television channel.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by KJo » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:26 pm

I am confused about this controversy. How can one say for sure what religion a person belongs to? What is the authoritative source?

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Primus » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:51 pm

KJo wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:26 pm
I am confused about this controversy. How can one say for sure what religion a person belongs to? What is the authoritative source?
With Cryptos, there is no way to know unless you catch them in the act of going to a church and doing prayers there (simply seeing them enter a church is not enough). Other give-aways are a cross on the wall at home, pictures of Jesus and the absence of any temple/shrine - although they can fake this too. I have known people who are not just EJs, but blatantly so, actively involved in conversion, and yet they have Hindu names and all outward appearances of being Hindus.

The biggest example of this is of course our well known Pappu. Nobody knows if he is a crypto or not. SuSwa claims they have a 'catholic shrine' at home and offer prayers there every Sunday. One would think that in this day and age it would be a simple thing to find out if his birth certificate or other school documents list his religion as Hindu or not. There are probably plenty of other documents too that may be very revealing, and yet there is nothing in the public domain. Any attempt to paint him as non-Hindu is met with tall claims and images of him being Janeyu-Dhari. For politicians and their ilk, it is vital to appear to be Hindu and not EJ. It's funny because Muslims never behave this way, because for them the support of their own community is their lifeline and they would never pretend to be Hindu, not for a moment.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:00 am

Primus wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:51 pm
KJo wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:26 pm
I am confused about this controversy. How can one say for sure what religion a person belongs to? What is the authoritative source?
With Cryptos, there is no way to know unless you catch them in the act of going to a church and doing prayers there (simply seeing them enter a church is not enough). Other give-aways are a cross on the wall at home, pictures of Jesus and the absence of any temple/shrine - although they can fake this too. I have known people who are not just EJs, but blatantly so, actively involved in conversion, and yet they have Hindu names and all outward appearances of being Hindus.

The biggest example of this is of course our well known Pappu. Nobody knows if he is a crypto or not. SuSwa claims they have a 'catholic shrine' at home and offer prayers there every Sunday. One would think that in this day and age it would be a simple thing to find out if his birth certificate or other school documents list his religion as Hindu or not. There are probably plenty of other documents too that may be very revealing, and yet there is nothing in the public domain. Any attempt to paint him as non-Hindu is met with tall claims and images of him being Janeyu-Dhari. For politicians and their ilk, it is vital to appear to be Hindu and not EJ. It's funny because Muslims never behave this way, because for them the support of their own community is their lifeline and they would never pretend to be Hindu, not for a moment.
Does any birth certificate or schooling certificate, in India, specifically identify one's religion??

Mine certainly DO NOT.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:02 am

Primus wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:51 pm
KJo wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:26 pm
I am confused about this controversy. How can one say for sure what religion a person belongs to? What is the authoritative source?
With Cryptos, there is no way to know unless you catch them in the act of going to a church and doing prayers there (simply seeing them enter a church is not enough). Other give-aways are a cross on the wall at home, pictures of Jesus and the absence of any temple/shrine - although they can fake this too. I have known people who are not just EJs, but blatantly so, actively involved in conversion, and yet they have Hindu names and all outward appearances of being Hindus.

The biggest example of this is of course our well known Pappu. Nobody knows if he is a crypto or not. SuSwa claims they have a 'catholic shrine' at home and offer prayers there every Sunday. One would think that in this day and age it would be a simple thing to find out if his birth certificate or other school documents list his religion as Hindu or not. There are probably plenty of other documents too that may be very revealing, and yet there is nothing in the public domain. Any attempt to paint him as non-Hindu is met with tall claims and images of him being Janeyu-Dhari. For politicians and their ilk, it is vital to appear to be Hindu and not EJ. It's funny because Muslims never behave this way, because for them the support of their own community is their lifeline and they would never pretend to be Hindu, not for a moment.
Yes, they do.

In many love jihad cases, they simply adopt simple, popular and noncontroversial Hindu names.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Chandragupta » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:14 am

chetak wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:02 am
Primus wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:51 pm
KJo wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:26 pm
I am confused about this controversy. How can one say for sure what religion a person belongs to? What is the authoritative source?
With Cryptos, there is no way to know unless you catch them in the act of going to a church and doing prayers there (simply seeing them enter a church is not enough). Other give-aways are a cross on the wall at home, pictures of Jesus and the absence of any temple/shrine - although they can fake this too. I have known people who are not just EJs, but blatantly so, actively involved in conversion, and yet they have Hindu names and all outward appearances of being Hindus.

The biggest example of this is of course our well known Pappu. Nobody knows if he is a crypto or not. SuSwa claims they have a 'catholic shrine' at home and offer prayers there every Sunday. One would think that in this day and age it would be a simple thing to find out if his birth certificate or other school documents list his religion as Hindu or not. There are probably plenty of other documents too that may be very revealing, and yet there is nothing in the public domain. Any attempt to paint him as non-Hindu is met with tall claims and images of him being Janeyu-Dhari. For politicians and their ilk, it is vital to appear to be Hindu and not EJ. It's funny because Muslims never behave this way, because for them the support of their own community is their lifeline and they would never pretend to be Hindu, not for a moment.
Yes, they do.

In many love jihad cases, they simply adopt simple, popular and noncontroversial Hindu names.
That is with active support & connivance of their community though.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Primus » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:06 am

chetak wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:02 am
Primus wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:51 pm
KJo wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:26 pm
I am confused about this controversy. How can one say for sure what religion a person belongs to? What is the authoritative source?
With Cryptos, there is no way to know unless you catch them in the act of going to a church and doing prayers there (simply seeing them enter a church is not enough). Other give-aways are a cross on the wall at home, pictures of Jesus and the absence of any temple/shrine - although they can fake this too. I have known people who are not just EJs, but blatantly so, actively involved in conversion, and yet they have Hindu names and all outward appearances of being Hindus.

The biggest example of this is of course our well known Pappu. Nobody knows if he is a crypto or not. SuSwa claims they have a 'catholic shrine' at home and offer prayers there every Sunday. One would think that in this day and age it would be a simple thing to find out if his birth certificate or other school documents list his religion as Hindu or not. There are probably plenty of other documents too that may be very revealing, and yet there is nothing in the public domain. Any attempt to paint him as non-Hindu is met with tall claims and images of him being Janeyu-Dhari. For politicians and their ilk, it is vital to appear to be Hindu and not EJ. It's funny because Muslims never behave this way, because for them the support of their own community is their lifeline and they would never pretend to be Hindu, not for a moment.
Yes, they do.

In many love jihad cases, they simply adopt simple, popular and noncontroversial Hindu names.
May I suggest you are missing the point. While the love-Jihad guys are indeed pretenders, I am talking about figures in public life where the Muslim identity is obvious. For example in their drivers license, passport, birth certificate etc. I doubt there are any prominent public figures who are 'secretly' muslim (therefore offer namaz, do roza for Ramzan etc) and yet in public life appear to be Hindus with all the accouterments of the faith on the surface. The love-Jihad muslims are easily identifiable if you probe deeper, the problem is the girls are easy victims because at that age the hormones are raging and they are very easily blinded, more often than not ignoring the sometimes very obvious clues.

I doubt there are any muslims of the stature of RaGa who are really practicing Islam and yet appear Hindu in pubic life. Yet, there are probably thousands of such Cryptos who are secretly Christian. For them being 'outed' would be a huge disadvantage because they hold positions of power where pretending to be Hindu allows them all the prestige and privileges that they otherwise may not have.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by KJo » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:25 pm

Primus wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:51 pm
KJo wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:26 pm
I am confused about this controversy. How can one say for sure what religion a person belongs to? What is the authoritative source?
With Cryptos, there is no way to know unless you catch them in the act of going to a church and doing prayers there (simply seeing them enter a church is not enough). Other give-aways are a cross on the wall at home, pictures of Jesus and the absence of any temple/shrine - although they can fake this too. I have known people who are not just EJs, but blatantly so, actively involved in conversion, and yet they have Hindu names and all outward appearances of being Hindus.

The biggest example of this is of course our well known Pappu. Nobody knows if he is a crypto or not. SuSwa claims they have a 'catholic shrine' at home and offer prayers there every Sunday. One would think that in this day and age it would be a simple thing to find out if his birth certificate or other school documents list his religion as Hindu or not. There are probably plenty of other documents too that may be very revealing, and yet there is nothing in the public domain. Any attempt to paint him as non-Hindu is met with tall claims and images of him being Janeyu-Dhari. For politicians and their ilk, it is vital to appear to be Hindu and not EJ. It's funny because Muslims never behave this way, because for them the support of their own community is their lifeline and they would never pretend to be Hindu, not for a moment.
There's a difference between Christians and Muslims in India.

Muslims basically just want to live their lives, mooching off Hindu tax money and getting more and more freebies. If one day India becomes an Islamic nation then "well and good onlee". But they are not actively on a conversion rampage. Many Muslims at least outwardly respect Hindu religion and say they want peace and harmony.
Christians are actively working to convert Hindus to Christianity and win the demography game. They are more slaves of Vatican than Muslims are of Saudi. They are not as violent as Muslims so they fly under the radar.

I remember being shocked when I found out that NKP Salve and Ajit Jogi were Christian.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by Primus » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:26 pm

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Agree with most of what you say. Muslims when they convert to Islam almost always adopt a different name, at least the first name is clearly Islamic though many retain their Hindu or Sikh last/family names. Thus you have Ashfaq Patel, Saeed Bajwa, Shafiq Khokhar, Asadullah Sajanlal, all real people I've known in my life. There are so many such examples. OTOH, Christian converts usually retain their full name although their children may take on a Christian first name. Strangely, sometimes they take on Hindu first names in the second or subsequent generations. I know at least two families in our area who are Catholics from India (converted several generations ago), where the parents have Christian first names but all the children were given pure Hindu names like Rahul, Pravin, Asha. It is not unusual at all to see Cryptos with high caste Brahmin names, even in the public space.

In real terms the danger to Dharma comes not so much from Islam where it has always been 'clear and present', thus making us vigilant and sensitive to aggression, but from Crypto EJs who adopt a completely Hindu form, name and attire while working quietly to undermine our faith from within. Much like the original Roberto de Nobili who went to the extent of shaving his head, wearing a dhoti and sandals and a 'janeyu' of three threads which he interpreted to be the 'father, the son and the holy ghost'. Note how they first brainwash themselves into believing Jesus is simply Krishna or Rama in another form and the Bible is just another interpretation of the Gita but simpler to understand and more appropriate for the masses. When you want to convert somebody to your point of view, it is vital to first be a total convert and believer yourself. Which is why the most shrill and virulent proselytizers are the new converts themselves. A strange and twisted take on the old adage - 'none so chaste as the reformed whore'.

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Re: Nukkad

Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:36 pm

KJo wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:25 pm
Primus wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:51 pm
KJo wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:26 pm
I am confused about this controversy. How can one say for sure what religion a person belongs to? What is the authoritative source?
With Cryptos, there is no way to know unless you catch them in the act of going to a church and doing prayers there (simply seeing them enter a church is not enough). Other give-aways are a cross on the wall at home, pictures of Jesus and the absence of any temple/shrine - although they can fake this too. I have known people who are not just EJs, but blatantly so, actively involved in conversion, and yet they have Hindu names and all outward appearances of being Hindus.

The biggest example of this is of course our well known Pappu. Nobody knows if he is a crypto or not. SuSwa claims they have a 'catholic shrine' at home and offer prayers there every Sunday. One would think that in this day and age it would be a simple thing to find out if his birth certificate or other school documents list his religion as Hindu or not. There are probably plenty of other documents too that may be very revealing, and yet there is nothing in the public domain. Any attempt to paint him as non-Hindu is met with tall claims and images of him being Janeyu-Dhari. For politicians and their ilk, it is vital to appear to be Hindu and not EJ. It's funny because Muslims never behave this way, because for them the support of their own community is their lifeline and they would never pretend to be Hindu, not for a moment.
There's a difference between Christians and Muslims in India.

Muslims basically just want to live their lives, mooching off Hindu tax money and getting more and more freebies. If one day India becomes an Islamic nation then "well and good onlee". But they are not actively on a conversion rampage. Many Muslims at least outwardly respect Hindu religion and say they want peace and harmony.
Christians are actively working to convert Hindus to Christianity and win the demography game. They are more slaves of Vatican than Muslims are of Saudi. They are not as violent as Muslims so they fly under the radar.

I remember being shocked when I found out that NKP Salve and Ajit Jogi were Christian.
That's what's so lovable about the Hindus, say the ropers and the rolers.

Eyes shut wide.

Will never accept that dispicable conversions are taking place from both quarters.

Will always justify the enemy's POV and will even sharpen their knives when they arrive in the dead of night.

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