The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Chandragupta » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:31 pm

While 1 Lakh+ Rohingy are enjoying the hospitality of India.

https://t.co/o0DRs9V1qD

Shame.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:15 pm

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If Samajwadi Party cannot transfer the votes of elected Party MLAs so easy to control, how does it expect the cadre to cooperate and its voters to transfer their votes to BSP

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:34 pm

In 1998, Mayawati ditched Vajpayee in voting of No Confidence Motion in Lok Sabha and BJP's Govt lost majority just by 1 vote.

In 2018, she couldn't even win 1 seat in Rajya Sabha while having 0 seats in Lok Sabha.

Revenge is sweet.
Look at the pattern:

👉In assembly elections, they blame the EVM because they are losing.

👉In Rajyasabha elections, they blame the ballot papers for same reason.

Such sour losers..!!!
Maya once threw away a RS seat for some cheap theatrics - Today it was desperation to get back to RS - BSP has no representation in RS now - Justice served for all the chaos she caused in RS during her time

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by shravanp » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:19 pm

Indrad wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:34 pm
In 1998, Mayawati ditched Vajpayee in voting of No Confidence Motion in Lok Sabha and BJP's Govt lost majority just by 1 vote.

In 2018, she couldn't even win 1 seat in Rajya Sabha while having 0 seats in Lok Sabha.

Revenge is sweet.
I still vividly remember those days when were immensely happy to see Vajpayee as PM of India and equally heart broken to see him go due to loss of just 1 vote. We always pondered, what is it about BJP that makes every single political party go against them? From commies, to Congress, to Phoolan Devi, to regional parties. All of them ganged up to simply defeat first time ever BJP gov in center.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:53 pm

Chandragupta wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:31 pm
While 1 Lakh+ Rohingy are enjoying the hospitality of India.

https://t.co/o0DRs9V1qD

Shame.

Completely agree with you on this one.

It is a matter of great shame that hindus of Pakistan seeking asylum in India are being deported back to Pakistan by this govt. and now in Pakistan they are forcibly being converted.

There has been many reports in the media of govt. apathy towards these hindus, yet the govt. has done very little to help these people and in many cases deported them back to Pakistan.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:08 pm

Indrad wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:01 pm
Mayawati has been defeated, she fails to become a RS member after one of her MLAs voted for BJP. By polls defeat avenge.
She was not the candidate though.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:28 pm

Squeezing the 9th seat from UP through political maneuvering/machination can prove costly to BJP in 2019 election.

That the BSP candidate would lose was a foregone conclusion after BJP got two of jailed SP/BSP MLA's debarred from voting and BSP did not have the requisite vote after that (notwithstanding the fact the one of BSP MLA cross voted for BJP and one of SBSP MLA, a BJP ally, cross voted for BSP).

The BSP guy who lost was named BR Ambedkar! BSP will now spin this as BJP's machination to stop a Dalit candidate named after Ambedkar from going to Rajya Sabha, something which will not go down well the Dalits who voted for BJP in 2014. BJP may have handed a stick to Mayawati which she will use to beat BJP with!

Will that be enough? May be.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:50 pm

moral victory !

that is, "it's ok you won now, but you won it in such a way that I will win later" :rotfl:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by srikumar » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:26 am

:lol: Indeed. I really dont understand why Tribolite takes all the trouble to come and make some, very detailed substantative posts (mostly about what Modi/current GOI did not do/failed at doing) time after time.... and then sneaks some psy-ops stuff in the middle. This requires a fair amount of time, effort and attention. It is funny to watch... :D ..especially when asked about the next best candidate (You wont get an answer..just the the famous counter question- why does it matter who I support :P ).

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:55 am

srikumar wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:26 am
:lol: Indeed. I really dont understand why Tribolite takes all the trouble to come and make some, very detailed substantative posts (mostly about what Modi/current GOI did not do/failed at doing) time after time.... and then sneaks some psy-ops stuff in the middle. This requires a fair amount of time, effort and attention. It is funny to watch... :D ..especially when asked about the next best candidate (You wont get an answer..just the the famous counter question- why does it matter who I support :P ).
Srikumar Saar, why focus on the messenger instead of on the issues raised ?

So for example, on the issue of asylum seeking hindus being deported back to Pakistan, you can say you support this action of Modi govt. or you do not support this action of Modi govt. or you are neutral on the issue?

Similarly on the issue of BSP candidate being outmaneuvered by BJP, you can say that it will have no impact on Dalits voting for BJP in 2019, or otherwise?

I am sure you have opinions too, please do express!

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by sagrawal » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:10 am

So now BJP controls the judiciary too? how did it stop jailed MLAs to vote? does current rules allow prisoners to vote? In my opinion if convicted criminals are stopped from electoral process that's a good thing. How can it be seen as wrong step by BJP ?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by srikumar » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:13 am

Trilobite wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:55 am

Srikumar Saar, why focus on the messenger instead of on the issues raised ?
Are bhai....hamka saar nahi bolo.... waise tho mujhe log ghochu bolte hain...par Aap mujhe ghonchu bhi mat kahiye :D
So for example, on the issue of asylum seeking hindus being deported back to Pakistan, you can say you support this action of Modi govt. or you do not support this action of Modi govt. or you are neutral on the issue?
Actually I was not even aware of this frankly. There is too much khoon kharaba one reads about in desh these days (minors getting raped, held hostage for days during rape etc.) that things like this do not even register on my radar, unfortunately.
Similarly on the issue of BSP candidate being outmaneuvered by BJP, you can say that it will have no impact on Dalits voting for BJP in 2019, or otherwise?
One year is a looong time in election-year politics. A statement here by RSS chief or a statement there by Modi can change things in a week. One year is an aeon. There was Tripura and then Gorakhpur happened...but that is only 1 seat and a bypoll. The wheel will turn again...many times. I agree that the focus should be on the message and not the messenger.....but I notice that most/all of your posts have a particular slant, hence the focus drifts towards the messenger. Surely Modi govt has done some good for the country the past few years, but reading your posts one will not know. And yes, pick any govt...(state or center), one can always find something to criticise. It is not difficult to find something.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:44 am

Lalu gets 7 yrs in 4th case. 2 more cases to go.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/newsindi ... spartanntp

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by shravanp » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:22 am

Trilobite wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:28 pm
Squeezing the 9th seat from UP through political maneuvering/machination can prove costly to BJP in 2019 election.
I read this line, and then I was curious who the poster was. Not surprised.

Why do you guys always are judgemental about BJP 24/7 ? I don't get it.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:56 am

UP's Rajsabha election --- RSS wins 9 seats because (corrupt/nepotic/nexused?) High Court judges stopped one BSP MLA and one SP MLA from voting because both were imprisoned. SP MLA has been in prison since year 2005 under charge of murder of a siting BJP MLA. And BSP MLA has been in prison for some 3 years under charge of "violence during panchayat poll", but no specific detail like anyone got killed or seriously injured. If these two accused MLAs were allowed to vote, then RSS would would have most likely got 8 seats and not nine.

This is cool !!! if RS elections are neck to neck, just cut a deal with some judge and get some MLAs imprisoned !!! Of course -- some planning would be useful -- like filing some false rape etc case some 3 months before RS election, giving huge media coverage against those MLAs and then arresting and then keep him locked till RS elections end !! So if both ruling party and judges collude, then the ruling party can win 100% RS seats across India !!!

In past imprisoned MLAs were allowed to cast vote in RS election , budget and no confidence motions. Its all discretion of speaker and judges. This time judges took decision that benefited nationalists

But anyway, what the heck. RSS and SP are one and the same. SP would have allowed in Rohingye and SP would have kicked out Hindu refugees from pakistan. And guess what --- RSS did the same !! So why should any common like myself bother whether RSS gets 9th seat or SP !! Both are one and one same.

Solution I propose is that RS MPs should be directly elected by us commons.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:06 am

I often think RS MP ki zaroorat kya hai why are we carrying this burden of legacy from British. Sure they can go on with house of lords & common. Do we need it? It has become courtyard of power & money.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:16 am

interesting SP saved Jaya Bachchan before they hedged bait on Mayawati's candidate Ambedkar. Why they didn't save him first? Bachchan's family seems to have strong ties with SP/Mulayam. Jaya Bachchan recently declared property in many crores. (on a side note Still her son Abhishek has bank loan of Rs 100 Cr on him (why).

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:01 am

Trilobite wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:53 pm
Chandragupta wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:31 pm
While 1 Lakh+ Rohingy are enjoying the hospitality of India.

https://t.co/o0DRs9V1qD

Shame.
Completely agree with you on this one.
It is a matter of great shame that hindus of Pakistan seeking asylum in India are being deported back to Pakistan by this govt. and now in Pakistan they are forcibly being converted.
There has been many reports in the media of govt. apathy towards these hindus, yet the govt. has done very little to help these people and in many cases deported them back to Pakistan.
The farticle links separate issues i.e one deported family of one "Chandu bheel"(real name or not ?) and links it to the jihadi terror which has stalked Hindus since ages in Pakistan. Most of the article is the well know story of Hindus in Pakiland but some how it wants to put this suffering around the neck of BJP/NaMo. Actually this is the exact modus operandi of MYTY(more yindu than yindu) posers seen on SM like the swamitards for example.

Expectedly exact strategy was seen used by the same poster to deprecate the appreciable work of NaMo/RSS in stopping the EJ machinery in its tracks via the FCRA carpet bombing.Then too he sprung up in these threads ignoring the FCRA strike just to question why some missionaries(which he supposedly identified) are still slipping through the govt machinery and getting their"tourist" visas in the external Min.
Guess deep seated khujli always floats to the top to show itself.
"Completely agree" hain ?.... forked MYTYness & critter commieness make such a nice pair.Really cute.

Digging on the family's story i understand they were picked up by Rajasthan police and intelligence agencies for questioning as soon as they left Jodhpur and stepped into a "restricted area" in border district Barmer and deported promptly before our "interested" courts got into action.
Now psyops farticles like above ensue by presstitutes - aiming prevent security agencies from deporting suspicious "refugees" in the future.
Steep rise in citizenship to Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan and Afghanistan under PM Modi-led government
By Rahul Tripathi, ET Bureau|Updated: May 21, 2015

NEW DELHI: The Narendra Modi-led government has in the past one year granted Indian citizenship to more than 4,200 Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan and Afghanistan, nearly four times the number of the preceding five years.

At the end of April 2015, the BJP government has approved citizenship for 4,230 Hindus and Sikhs from these two countries who have sought refuse in India, compared with 1,023 granted by the Congress-led UPA-II.

The increase in citizenship grants is in line with BJP’s declared aim of positioning India as a refuge for Hindus fleeing persecution anywhere in the world, much like Israel’s stance towards Jews. In its election manifesto for the 2014 Lok Sabha elections, the BJP had declared India as “a natural home for persecuted Hindus” who “shall be welcome to seek refuge”.

“The numbers of those granted citizenship are miniscule as compared to the country’s population. Government has taken a call resolve the problems being faced by people of Indian origin who in anyway were staying in the country for long,” a home ministry spokesperson said.
Government officials told ET that the number of Hindus from neighbouring Islamic countries getting Indian nationality could see a sharp spike in the months ahead, with the home ministry stepping up efforts to expedite long-term visas and citizenship to those fleeing Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh.
After the BJP government took charge in Delhi last May, nearly 19,000 migrants have already been given long-term visas in Madhya Pradesh. Some 11,000 persons have been granted visas, which precede citizenship, in Rajasthan, while in case of Gujarat, the figure is around 4,000, said officials familiar with the drive.
The changes in the Citizenship Act that ensure faster disposal of citizenship requests have the potential to open up the floodgates, swelling the number of those eventually allowed to be permanently based in India to around 10 lakhs by December 2016.
India to allow minorities from Pakistan, Bangladesh to stay without papers
Ever since Prime Minister Narendra Modi government came to power in May last year, several steps including issuance of Long Term Visa (LTV) for these refugees have been initiated.

India today decided to allow minority refugees from Bangladesh and Pakistan to stay in this country even after expiry of their visas on humanitarian grounds.

The central government has decided, on humanitarian considerations, to exempt Bangladeshi and Pakistani nationals belonging to minority communities who have entered India on or before December 31, 2014, in respect of their entry and stay in India without proper documents or after the expiry of relevant documents, a statement issued by the Home Ministry said.

The decision has been taken under Passport (Entry into India) Act, 1920 and Foreigners Act, 1946, it said.

The government also issued two notifications in the Official Gazette today under Passport (Entry into India) Act, 1920 and Foreigners Act, 1946.

There are reports that a number of Bangladeshi and Pakistani nationals belonging to minority communities in those countries, such as Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Jains, Parsis and Buddhists, took shelter in India due to religious persecution or fear of religious persecution.

They have entered India either without any valid document, including passport and other travel document, or with valid documents but the validity of such document has expired.

The issue of regularisation of entry and stay of such Bangladeshi and Pakistani nationals in India has been under consideration of the central government, the statement said.

There has been no exact numbers of such minority refugees from these countries but officials put the figure of around two lakh Hindu and Sikh refugees from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan living in India.

Ever since Prime Minister Narendra Modi government came to power in May last year, several steps including issuance of Long Term Visa (LTV) for these refugees have been initiated.

In November last year, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh had approved a number of steps to ease grant of citizenship to such refugees which included manual acceptance of applications for citizenship, consideration of an affidavit filed before the authority in return for citizenship renunciation certificate and permission to the children of such refugees, who entered India, on the basis of their parents’ passport, to apply for Indian citizenship without a passport.


In April this year, the Union Home Ministry rolled out an online system for LTV applications and for their processing by various security agencies.

The decision was taken to address the difficulty being faced by Hindus and Sikhs of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan who had come with the intention of settling permanently in India.

There are 400 Pakistani Hindu refugee settlements in cities like Jodhpur, Jaisalmer, Bikaner and Jaipur. Hindu refugees from Bangladesh mostly live in West Bengal and northeastern States.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:15 am

Lilo wrote:Actually this is the exact modus operandi of MYTY(more yindu than yindu) posers seen on SM like the swamitards for example.
fully agree on this: many who wanted a pie in Modi govt but sidelined are using H card to attack Modi. Swamy has old axe to grind with Jetli who is trusted heavily by Modi. Others like Prof Hari Om & many have cropped up overnight asking for a Hindu Rashtra of Hindustan; demanding constitution amendment, JK problem solved immediately etc.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:17 pm

if Nitish can come back to NDA after having hurled so many abuses at Modi: letter & counter letter are nothing.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:18 pm

BJP could have won both RS seats (BJP-1, Cong-1) in Jharkhand if AmitShah had consulted MLAs as per SM.. Congress won 1 seat by very thin margin..

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:55 pm

Deported Hindus face conversion in Pakistan
Hindu families living in the Sindh province of Pakistan, near the border with Rajasthan, flock to India to find a safe haven. However, they become shattered as the CID and administration put an obstacle to their India dreams and they are forced to return. Upon going back, they are forced to convert to Islam in order to save their women and family. If they don’t yield, they are subject to severe torture.

The conversion figures are staggering: Over 500 Hindus are to be converted to Islam in the border village of Matali village of Sindh province on March 25. About one thousand Pakistani migrants came to take shelter in Jodhpur and other parts of Rajasthan in the last two years.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:20 pm

importing Hindus from neighbouring countries could be a landmine... next time there is a khichdi/commie/aap/congoon sarkar they will import Muslims.

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