The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:07 pm

Sachin, Tripura is a basket-case inspite of all the Communist propaganda. Like WB, INC had parcelled the state to the Left. They had friendly fights. So I won't be surprised if BJP comes to power as now there is a viable alternative. I hope Tapan Ghosh forms a political party and enters Tripura. Will finish the Left permanently.

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Post by Prasan » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:32 pm

Q3 GDP at 7.2%: India regains status of fastest growing economy

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 112582.cms

NEW DELHI: India regained its status as the world's fastest-growing major economy in the October-December quarter, surpassing China's growth after a gap of one year, boosted by higher government spending and a pick-up in manufacturing and services.
The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth rate for the third quarter (October-December) of the current fiscal (2017-18) stood at 7.2 per cent, government data showed on Wednesday. The latest data signals that the economy in the reporting quarter grew at its fastest pace in five quarters.
The government revised its 2017-18 GDP growth forecast to 6.6 per cent from 6.5 per cent earlier.

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Post by shynee » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:04 pm

INX Media Case: Peter and Indrani Mukerjea implicate former finance minister P Chidambaram
The promoter of INX Media Limited Peter and Indrani Mukerjea has named former finance minister P Chidambaram and even told the Enforcement Directorate (ED) sleuths that he had asked them to help out the business of his son Karti Chidambaram during a meeting at North Block.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rudradev » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:19 pm

Is the axe finally falling?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Kabir » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:36 am

has been since vadra days. blunt axe.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:47 am

Axe? No. Sword? Yes. Chidu will fall on it to save his empress and naked prince.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:21 pm

Lilo wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:42 pm
Above is the best example of Rahul the Mehta and the weird insect Trilobite acting as intellectual mercenaries for foreign agents like so many amongst their commie ilk in India.

Their modus operandi is as follows.
1) Pick a critical sector which is an engine of economic growth for India. (ex coal mining, steel,cement, power production ,transportation etc).
2)These sectors were the most effected by 50+ years of socialist strangle hold and are in an inefficient vicious cycle due to deep systemic issues.Like the coal monopoly CIL which due to decades of poor capital investments in heavymachinery /R&D/transport linkages and instead funding the expenses of an grossly inefficient unionised labour force (a CIL miner earns 40,000 vs a contract miner who earns 15,000 per month ) has become one of the most inefficient major companies in World .
3)In order to bring down the cost of manufacturing in India and create the conditions for a "make in India" revolution which will produce hundreds of millions of jobs, a nationalist PM like NaMo would want to eliminate the bottlenecks like high Transportation cost, high Powercosts,high cost of Finance, stifling labour laws etc.
In this direction a coal privatization initiative has been kick started to revive investments in a sector whose future itself looks bleak due to challenges from renewables(Rs 2 per unit power projects) .
So much so that coal demand itself is going to peak within a decade in this country. So other consumers of coal like Steel, Cement,fertilizer, Metallurgical etc will be the ones driving the expansion or consumption in production capacity in the future.
Now come the foreign agents like Rahul the mehta,Trilobite or Medha patkar.
They are often tasked by foreign countries(like China - which is still a major steel exporter to India draining our forex. China imports India's iron ore and sells us back the finished steel. China despite having little good quality iron ore reserves has captured the lionsshare of 1 trillion dollar worth global steel market and India with one of the biggest iron ore reserves was excluded from this pie infact we became a net importer) to queer the pitch before any major reform to unshackle Indian economy from its past socialist constraints. They are the rabble rousers who hit the town proclaiming that the labour rights of a few lakh unionised CIL employees are under danger while trampling on the rights of hundreds of millions of unemployed indian youth waiting for that manufacturing boom to occur. Additionally the Christian countries like USA, UK fund these activities in India to keep the country in the lower income trap so that India will never mature into a world power able to stand up for its own interests.
3)Specifically one can take the baseless claims of Rahul the Mehta that NaMo is going to offer the coal blocks to us/uk mncs, the truth is many coal blocks which are lying unbidded for in the tepid 3rd and 4th rounds of coal auctions are being offered to players who have the capacity(technology and heavymachinery to extract coking coal or lesser grade coal deposits) to rejuvenate a sector dying from the inefficiency of monopolies like CIL. Further coal blocks and captive mining rights at a long-term price will be alloted to Indian steel manufactures (taking away these coal blocks from the control of the corruptfully inefficient CIL) so that they may become vertically integrated steel industries able to out compete Chinese steel production cost in the long term. Further the ossified behemoth CIL itself will be split into 6 or 7 entities which will be made to compete amongst themselves .All this will obviously be an anathema to Chinese and Western agents like Rahul the mehta, Trilobite or Medha Patkar, Arundhoti Roy etc.


Is Coal India's monopoly really going to end?

Your premise of the post itself is faulty and support arguments are full of factual errors, and that is apart from the complete and utter nonsensical ad hominen attack which I am going to ignore for now and focus on the issue.

In general you seem poorly informed.

First thing first, the premise itself is incorrect. It is incorrect to assert that the in-competitiveness of Indian manufacturing sector is due to higher input cost of the raw materials supplied by the inefficient public sector such as Coal India Limited (CIL). That is not supported by evidence. In general raw material cost in India is reasonable. Let us look CIL's production cost and sale price of coal and see how it compares internationally including that of China. CIL produces coal for around Rs 1200/tonne and sells it for around Rs 1800-2000/tonne coal at roughly 1/3rd the cost and sale price of international market ($80 - $110) China included. China's production cost is about Rs 5000. Surely there are private Indian companies who are producing coal at a cheaper cost by employing cheaper labor but their sale price is not cheaper than CIL, and I am sure given the choice they would actually like to sell at the at the much higher international price (Done by Reliance which leases gasfield from Indian govt. but sells gas to Indian govt. at international rate with nearly 400% profit).

Now I am not saying that CIL is efficient and/or not corrupt but if domestic coal prices are 1/3 lower than international, you can thank CIL for that.

The main reason for Indian manufacturing sector not being competitive is not the higher input cost or higher labor cost, the reason is lower productivity due to use of lower productivity machinery. Productivity can only be brought at par with international standard if the manufacturing sector adopts the state of the art machinery used internationally and in China. A machine which produces 100 widgets /hr is 10 times more productive than a machine which produces only 10 widgets/hr, it is as simple as that.
2)These sectors were the most effected by 50+ years of socialist strangle hold and are in an inefficient vicious cycle due to deep systemic issues.
CIL was formed in 1975, nationalization happened in 1973, that is less than 50 years, where did you pull out the is 50+ years from ??
And before that most of the coal mines were private. In fact even after nationalization private operators Tata Steel and IISCO were allowed to keep their captive mines.
So much so that coal demand itself is going to peak within a decade in this country. So other consumers of coal like Steel, Cement,fertilizer, Metallurgical etc will be the ones driving the expansion or consumption in production capacity in the future.
Now come the foreign agents like Rahul the mehta,Trilobite or Medha patkar.
They are often tasked by foreign countries(like China - which is still a major steel exporter to India draining our forex. China imports India's iron ore and sells us back the finished steel. China despite having little good quality iron ore reserves has captured the lionsshare of 1 trillion dollar worth global steel market and India with one of the biggest iron ore reserves was excluded from this pie infact we became a net importer) to queer the pitch before any major reform to unshackle Indian economy from its past socialist constraints. They are the rabble rousers who hit the town proclaiming that the labour rights of a few lakh unionised CIL employees are under danger while trampling on the rights of hundreds of millions of unemployed indian youth waiting for that manufacturing boom to occur. Additionally the Christian countries like USA, UK fund these activities in India to keep the country in the lower income trap so that India will never mature into a world power able to stand up for its own interests.
Again not properly informed, e.g. you are whining about Indian Socialism but completely forget that China was a pure Communist country then. In reality though India has been a mixed economy than a pure socialist nation.

[*]China steel production cost is higher than India, look it up.

[*]China is not only importing iron ore from India but also it from other nations too. It pays 3 times more for Brazilian iron ore than for Indian iron, so what is the point?

[*]Grade of iron ore is not such a big deal in terms of technology, production process remains same, just the waste produce is little higher.

[*]China was importing iron ore to cut down on pollution as better quality ore burns less coal, but do realize that China has huge iron ore deposit, bigger than India.

[*]China also imports over 300 MT of coal too, even though it produces 3.5 BT or roughly 7 times more coal than India. If India mined coal at the same rate of China, India's coal will be gone in 30-35 years!

[*]India only imports type and quality of steel it does not domestically produce, but in general it produces enough steel for domestic consumption and some years it has surplus for export.
Like the coal monopoly CIL which due to decades of poor capital investments in heavymachinery /R&D/transport linkages and instead funding the expenses of an grossly inefficient unionised labour force (a CIL miner earns 40,000 vs a contract miner who earns 15,000 per month ) has become one of the most inefficient major companies in World .
Again you are betraying your poor understanding of the issue.

While it is true that many private operators offer lower salary, other private operators like Tata Steel do offer similar compensation and perks to their workers. They have been doing it for long time. So it is a wrong notion that CIL employees are getting paid exorbitant amount. Mining is a tough job, you can never pay more to the miners.
3)Specifically one can take the baseless claims of Rahul the Mehta that NaMo is going to offer the coal blocks to us/uk mncs, the truth is many coal blocks which are lying unbidded for in the tepid 3rd and 4th rounds of coal auctions are being offered to players who have the capacity(technology and heavymachinery to extract coking coal or lesser grade coal deposits) to rejuvenate a sector dying from the inefficiency of monopolies like CIL.
Now where in the world you came up with the notion that GOI was going to auction coking coal block? Coking coal is a scarce resource, no govt. is going to be auctioning any coking coal block, so obviously you have no clue what are you taking about.
Further coal blocks and captive mining rights at a long-term price will be alloted to Indian steel manufactures (taking away these coal blocks from the control of the corruptfully inefficient CIL) so that they may become vertically integrated steel industries able to out compete Chinese steel production cost in the long term.
India steel production cost is lower than China, look it up.
Further the ossified behemoth CIL itself will be split into 6 or 7 entities which will be made to compete amongst themselves .All this will obviously be an anathema to Chinese and Western agents like Rahul the mehta, Trilobite or Medha Patkar, Arundhoti Roy etc.
Do you even know that the "behemoth" CIL is actually a conglomerate of 8 - 10 completely independent subsidiaries?

The coal producing subsidiaries of CIL are BCCL, CCL, NCL, MCL, SECL, ECL, and WCL. These are completely independent organization from each other.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Trilobite » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:42 pm

In the meantime BJP lost both bypolls in MP, in fact in last couple of years it has lost every bypoll in MP, a definite sign of anti-incumbency perhaps?

With Cong Win in MP Bypolls, BJP Will Be Wary of Anti-Incumbency

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Nandu » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:33 pm

Trilobite wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:42 pm
In the meantime BJP lost both bypolls in MP, in fact in last couple of years it has lost every bypoll in MP, a definite sign of anti-incumbency perhaps?

With Cong Win in MP Bypolls, BJP Will Be Wary of Anti-Incumbency
Yes, they should. Only if the votes polled in percentage terms in 2014 in the assembly segment of the Guna parliamentary constituency where these segments fall are higher than now. Alternatively if the numbers are higher than what BMP polled in 2013 assembly elections.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:59 pm

Both these seats were held by INC and the margins have come down from 2013. There are several states like MP where the INC is still strong and therefore the incumbent Shivraj will have to be on his toes.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:14 pm

In the meantime BJP lost both bypolls in MP, in fact in last couple of years it has lost every bypoll in MP ...

With Cong Win in MP Bypolls, BJP Will Be Wary of Anti-Incumbency
When Rajasthan bypolls were lost, RSS-workers ran fairy tales proving that everyone loves Modiji and loss was ONLY due to Vasundharaji. Now what fairytales will RSS-workers offer for Madhya Pradesh loss? That everyone in Madhya Pradesh loves Modiji and loss was ONLY due to Sri Shivraj Singh Chouhanji only?

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AFAIS, the loss is ONLY because sponsors of Modiji and RSS workers had created huge hopes in voters to win may-2014 elections. be Rs 15 lakhs to expelling Bangdeshies within 6 months, to imprisoning all corrupt 2G leaders and congress leaders etc. RSS-workers said that Modiji will fulfil ALL your dreams and so on. They said all these hope-raising tales because they knew that if lesser hopes are raised, then voteshare may decrease
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Now forget hopes, things are SAME as congress. Corrupt 2G leaders are roaming free. Spectrum auction's profits will get washed out by NPA in telecom, because all teclo had taken loans to pay for spectrum except may be Jio. And not even dozen Bangladeshies have been shipped back home. And let me see my passbook if Rs 15 lakh entry has come . No , it hasnt. But wait --- I do here that "see Modiji, never said that he will give Rs 15 lakh. He only made a clever statement that made you crores of voters THINK that they will all get Rs 15 lakh .. ha ha ha ha ". And to add insult to injury, CBI apex-officer writes to airport officers to DOWNGRADE the warrant from "arrest if Vijay Mallaya tries to leaves" to "inform us if he tries to leave, but dont arrest him" !! And we MUST believe that Modiji didnt ask CBI-apex to downgrade the warrant !!!

And Modiji had 3.5 years to implement GSTN and eWayBill system. Yes, 3.5 years not 2 years. Because clock started on 1-jun-2014, NOT after GST bills were passed. Because much of system part of GST was clear from initial congress era drafts of the bils, and matters of disagreement like petrol, alcolhol etc were NOT system issues at all. And after 3.5 years, we have GSTN which still crashes and eWayBill system is so poor that after 30 days of testing, it crashed on first day !!! And we still have to hear from RSS-workers that "Modiji is great at implementation" !!! And defense is - "congress did zero work on GSTN" !!!
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And to all that add DeMo --- mother of braindead ideas !! Total black money hoarded in cash was below Rs 8 lakh crores (TOTAL notes = Rs 16 lakh crore of which NOT all was black). And total wealth hoarded by one family in Mumbai alone is Rs 5 lakh crore !!! And if all plots of Missionaries and ex-British-collaberators is added, it will cross Rs 500 lakh crores AT LEAST !!! The man doesnt want to impose 1% wealth tax on that plots but is eager to put whole nation on run for this Rs 8 lakh crore of black wealth hoarded in cash !! And guess who made most money in note-exchange? Well, let me not cite that
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But as per RSS-workers, loss in election is NOT due to braindead ideas like DeMo, GST, GSTN, weaybill etc. But its all CM CShivrajji's fault.
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Well, now ball is in the court of sponsors. The sponsors own the media, and given that congress/rss/aap and SoMoke are all one and the same, it is paidmediamen who will decide who will win. And paidmediamen will decide based on what sponsors pay to say. If sponors pay well, bikau arnab may become anti-Modiji and pro-RaGa or pro-ArKe. And if sponors pay well to bikau Ravish, then he may become pro-Modji. And most sponors are now videshi, because desi elitemen except Mukeshbhai , Tata , Godrej are now all cash poor. And these 3 gentlemen too heavily depend on videshi techonoly and cant say no to videshi now.

So now vidhesi elitemen using paidmedia will decide the fate of may-2019 elections. This is the extent to which congress/rss/app and SoMoKe have ruined India.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:28 pm

SSundar wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:47 am
Axe? No. Sword? Yes. Chidu will fall on it to save his empress and naked prince.
They are baiting the hook.

First the son, then the mother and then the father.

The congis are in panic because the father knows where all the bodies are buried and he will never fall on his sword but will ensure that the others will do so.

The gauntlet has been thrown, with the 5 days police custody and no home food.

Last night, the son spent in AIIMS even though he made no complaint of being unwell. A malsi doctor made sure that he was admitted in the coronary care unit for a good nights sleep followed by a good breakfast in the morning and the discharge summary said that the night was uneventful. Not surprising because there was no "event" even before he was admitted to the CCU.

The congi deep state is activated and in full cry.

congi sympathizers on tv are all sitting with very long faces. imminent unemployment looms.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:24 pm

Rudradev wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:19 pm
Is the axe finally falling?
The money trail is strong here, unlike the 2G case where Kalaignar TV was injected money and then retracted (and this was dismissed as "unusual transactions" and not proof of bribe).

PC running to SC asking for relief from agencies is proof for me that he is panicking and these are some hail mary attempts to escape

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:32 pm

Trilobite wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:21 pm

Your premise of the post itself is faulty and support arguments are full of factual errors, and that is apart from the complete and utter nonsensical ad hominen attack which I am going to ignore for now and focus on the issue.

In general you seem poorly informed.

First thing first, the premise itself is incorrect. It is incorrect to assert that the in-competitiveness of Indian manufacturing sector is due to higher input cost of the raw materials supplied by the inefficient public sector such as Coal India Limited (CIL). That is not supported by evidence. In general raw material cost in India is reasonable. Let us look CIL's production cost and sale price of coal and see how it compares internationally including that of China. CIL produces coal for around Rs 1200/tonne and sells it for around Rs 1800-2000/tonne coal at roughly 1/3rd the cost and sale price of international market ($80 - $110) China included. China's production cost is about Rs 5000. Surely there are private Indian companies who are producing coal at a cheaper cost by employing cheaper labor but their sale price is not cheaper than CIL, and I am sure given the choice they would actually like to sell at the at the much higher international price (Done by Reliance which leases gasfield from Indian govt. but sells gas to Indian govt. at international rate with nearly 400% profit).{So aaptardgiri's eternal target Reliance is pulled into the ring here? I know you aaptards behave like good doggies wagging tails to TATA or JINDAL while targeting reliance to rah rah s of aaptard slogans.Seen so much if this shit so don't even try. Is that why you were singing paens to TATA steel later in your post. Get a life aaptard. }

Now I am not saying that CIL is efficient and/or not corrupt but if domestic coal prices are 1/3 lower than international, you can thank CIL for that.{weird insect trilobite please tell me are international prices the norm or the spot prices near an consuming industry the norm for a super bulky commodity like coal? Whatapp logic can't fool people here }

The main reason for Indian manufacturing sector not being competitive is not the higher input cost or higher labor cost, the reason is lower productivity due to use of lower productivity machinery. Productivity can only be brought at par with international standard if the manufacturing sector adopts the state of the art machinery used internationally and in China. A machine which produces 100 widgets /hr is 10 times more productive than a machine which produces only 10 widgets/hr, it is as simple as that.{ pappu will you give me a break? Your hare brained assertions like above aside, precursor to investment of capital is cheap infrastructure (transportation, power, raw materials,),cheap real estate, cheap labor.Without these you are jumping to ABB robotic arm manufacturing and claiming China has more automation/advanced machinery so is more cheaper.Really aaptard level brain capacity you have}
2)These sectors were the most effected by 50+ years of socialist strangle hold and are in an inefficient vicious cycle due to deep systemic issues.
CIL was formed in 1975, nationalization happened in 1973, that is less than 50 years, where did you pull out the is 50+ years from ??
And before that most of the coal mines were private. In fact even after nationalization private operators Tata Steel and IISCO were allowed to keep their captive mines. {Pappu ji Socialist "planning" of Indian economy was started by your banditji chacha Nehru in the 1950s itself. Now being the commie insect you must be familiar with what "planning" entails don't you? It's a blatant production quota system when applied to Industry decimated private industry and promoted public industry. Right to property was removed as a fundamental right by your banditji Nehru too in 1950s so that your socialist state can keep up it's daylight robbery to bankrupt majority of entrepreneurs (leaving apart the select few close to the Nehru durbar like TATA BIRLA) .Next came IG in 1965 who brought out the socialist steam roller nationalising and socializing anything which she saw as an obstacle. Banks 1969 oil 1971 coal 1973.Already your banditji Nehru killed off private enterprise by his socialist Robber baron policy of state monopolizing the commanding heights of the economy in the 1950s.So weird insect trilobite why do you get khujli when I give an average time since the socialization was inflicted on major sectors of economy as 50+ years. Guess you can't rebutt a point with your aaptard brain and have to resort to clutching at straws hain? }
Again not properly informed, e.g. you are whining about Indian Socialism but completely forget that China was a pure Communist country then. In reality though India has been a mixed economy than a pure socialist nation.{Weird insect trilobite, Ill better picturize for you - banditji created a socialist robber baron economy.What the heck is this bure socialist and bure comminess hain ji? Is it some form of bure Islam notion pushed by jihads? }

[*]China steel production cost is higher than India, look it up. {hain then why are Indian consumers not purchasing the low cost Indian steel supposedly made with the rarely on time and plagued by shortages coal supply arranged by CIL , so much so that they have to import billions of dollars worth of coal annually from abroad?. I don't care what underhanded claim you attempt to plam off but the fact is India is forced to import hundred million tonnes of coal each year just because CIL cannot step up to the task.Why should India bear a forex loss of 20 billion dollars per annum? See the quoted portion below}
In November last year, the Indian Captive Power Producers Association wrote a worried letter to CIL about coal shortage in its plants. These companies, which produce electricity for their own use, “are being pushed towards costlier imports because they are getting barely half the supplies contracted from CIL,” it said.

In the same month, the Aluminium Association of India wrote to the Prime Minister’s Office: “An investment of Rs 1.2 lakh crore in the aluminium sector is holding a debt of Rs 70,000 crore and the employment of 7.5 lakh people is at a very critical risk because of the coal shortage.” And in December last year, the Competition Commission of India penalised CIL “for imposing unfair/discriminatory conditions in fuel supply agreements with power producers for supply of non-coking coal”.

CIL’s monopoly has also reflected on the quality of coal produced in the country. Indian coal has an average ash content of about 45 per cent — far higher than the 25-30 per cent that ensures efficient power generation. The efficiency of the country’s thermal power plants has also been compromised because they have to contend with stones and boulders in the coal they procure from CIL.

Its output-per-man shift is estimated at one-eighth of Peabody Energy, the world’s largest private coal producer.
[*]China is not only importing iron ore from India but also it from other nations too. It pays 3 times more for Brazilian iron ore than for Indian iron, so what is the point?{what is the point to this point? China is importing ore from India and selling us finished product steel because of inefficiency and the high cost imposed on Indian steel manufactures by an grossly inefficient CILs useless monopoly}

[*]Grade of iron ore is not such a big deal in terms of technology, production process remains same, just the waste produce is little higher.{wow at the aaptardness displayed in such stupid assertions.Going by your claims I can produce steel from the iron fillings in beach sand too. Let me remind you again It's the economy duffer.Image }

[*]China was importing iron ore to cut down on pollution as better quality ore burns less coal, but do realize that China has huge iron ore deposit, bigger than India.{china has shit quality iron ore deposits. Iron fillings in beach sand may be used to calculate your claim that "China has largest iron ore deposits" but its the economics of smelting that ultimately determines why China is importing iron ore. Pollution is also an economic effect btw}

[*]China also imports over 300 MT of coal too, even though it produces 3.5 BT or roughly 7 times more coal than India. If India mined coal at the same rate of China, India's coal will be gone in 30-35 years! {I don't get it why do you want to keep hoarding coal like a duffer(especially when renewables like solar at 2Rs/unit) when forex/bullion is being lost to coal imports and steel imports}

[*]India only imports type and quality of steel it does not domestically produce, but in general it produces enough steel for domestic consumption and some years it has surplus for export.
Like the coal monopoly CIL which due to decades of poor capital investments in heavymachinery /R&D/transport linkages and instead funding the expenses of an grossly inefficient unionised labour force (a CIL miner earns 40,000 vs a contract miner who earns 15,000 per month ) has become one of the most inefficient major companies in World .
Again you are betraying your poor understanding of the issue.

While it is true that many private operators offer lower salary, other private operators like Tata Steel{did you really compare the coal miner to the steel plant worker of TATA steel?} do offer similar compensation and perks to their workers. They have been doing it for long time. So it is a wrong notion that CIL employees are getting paid exorbitant amount. Mining is a tough job, you can never pay more to the miners.{yes that is why most productive mining abroad is done by machines/mechanisation (both for open pit and underground) not manual labor as preferred by CIL. Machines and newer technologies allow hazardous under ground mines abandoned due to methane or caving threats to be worked upon. Even those legacy mines where per head output of coal is decreasing or stagnating it's the private operators who can extract productively from these mines with lesser cost.}
3)Specifically one can take the baseless claims of Rahul the Mehta that NaMo is going to offer the coal blocks to us/uk mncs, the truth is many coal blocks which are lying unbidded for in the tepid 3rd and 4th rounds of coal auctions are being offered to players who have the capacity(technology and heavymachinery to extract coking coal or lesser grade coal deposits) to rejuvenate a sector dying from the inefficiency of monopolies like CIL.
Now where in the world you came up with the notion that GOI was going to auction coking coal block? Coking coal is a scarce resource, no govt. is going to be auctioning any coking coal block, so obviously you have no clue what are you taking about.{Pappu Coal seams occur in different grades stripping of higher grade seams by inefficient orgs like CIL has left only lower grade seams and hazardous seams in legacy mines it also led to quicker abandonment of mines.Coking coal is made by mixing high grade ore with low in a certain proportion. This capacity to extract higher grade ore using latest technologies in abandoned or legacy or hazardous mines is available with private players not Rahul the Mehta or CIL. }
Further coal blocks and captive mining rights at a long-term price will be alloted to Indian steel manufactures (taking away these coal blocks from the control of the corruptfully inefficient CIL) so that they may become vertically integrated steel industries able to out compete Chinese steel production cost in the long term.
India steel production cost is lower than China, look it up.{Indian steel is nowhere in global market in fact we are a net importer. If Indian steel is so cheap more will be produced and global market would have been cornered. At least India would not have resorted to bulk imports of generic TMT steel or rolled steel from china as it was doing in the previous decade. }
Further the ossified behemoth CIL itself will be split into 6 or 7 entities which will be made to compete amongst themselves .All this will obviously be an anathema to Chinese and Western agents like Rahul the mehta, Trilobite or Medha Patkar, Arundhoti Roy etc.
Do you even know that the "behemoth" CIL is actually a conglomerate of 8 - 10 completely independent subsidiaries?

The coal producing subsidiaries of CIL are BCCL, CCL, NCL, MCL, SECL, ECL, and WCL. These are completely independent organization from each other.{pappu that is why the ossified behemoth CIL will be divided of its production units which will be made to compete amongst themselves. It's niti aayog proposal in latest NEP which I support to beat back CIL into shape. http://www.livemint.com/Industry/Y8XgfL ... anies.html }

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:43 pm

I am finally impressed with ModiJi & Co for going hard on Congoons for corruption. Of course, Congoons are crying foul, they put out their pasand judges like Sanjay Hegde, Tulsi Sings etc, they are crying Nirav Modi and all such. But ModiJi should be relentless against these scum bags and not let them set the narrative.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Lilo » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:53 pm

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:14 pm
In the meantime BJP lost both bypolls in MP, in fact in last couple of years it has lost every bypoll in MP ...

With Cong Win in MP Bypolls, BJP Will Be Wary of Anti-Incumbency
When Rajasthan bypolls were lost, RSS-workers ran fairy tales proving that everyone loves Modiji and loss was ONLY due to Vasundharaji. Now what fairytales will RSS-workers offer for Madhya Pradesh loss? That everyone in Madhya Pradesh loves Modiji and loss was ONLY due to Sri Shivraj Singh Chouhanji only?

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AFAIS, the loss is ONLY because sponsors of Modiji and RSS workers had created huge hopes in voters to win may-2014 elections. be Rs 15 lakhs to expelling Bangdeshies within 6 months, to imprisoning all corrupt 2G leaders and congress leaders etc. RSS-workers said that Modiji will fulfil ALL your dreams and so on. They said all these hope-raising tales because they knew that if lesser hopes are raised, then voteshare may decrease
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Now forget hopes, things are SAME as congress. Corrupt 2G leaders are roaming free. Spectrum auction's profits will get washed out by NPA in telecom, because all teclo had taken loans to pay for spectrum except may be Jio. And not even dozen Bangladeshies have been shipped back home. And let me see my passbook if Rs 15 lakh entry has come . No , it hasnt. But wait --- I do here that "see Modiji, never said that he will give Rs 15 lakh. He only made a clever statement that made you crores of voters THINK that they will all get Rs 15 lakh .. ha ha ha ha ". And to add insult to injury, CBI apex-officer writes to airport officers to DOWNGRADE the warrant from "arrest if Vijay Mallaya tries to leaves" to "inform us if he tries to leave, but dont arrest him" !! And we MUST believe that Modiji didnt ask CBI-apex to downgrade the warrant !!!

And Modiji had 3.5 years to implement GSTN and eWayBill system. Yes, 3.5 years not 2 years. Because clock started on 1-jun-2014, NOT after GST bills were passed. Because much of system part of GST was clear from initial congress era drafts of the bils, and matters of disagreement like petrol, alcolhol etc were NOT system issues at all. And after 3.5 years, we have GSTN which still crashes and eWayBill system is so poor that after 30 days of testing, it crashed on first day !!! And we still have to hear from RSS-workers that "Modiji is great at implementation" !!! And defense is - "congress did zero work on GSTN" !!!
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And to all that add DeMo --- mother of braindead ideas !! Total black money hoarded in cash was below Rs 8 lakh crores (TOTAL notes = Rs 16 lakh crore of which NOT all was black). And total wealth hoarded by one family in Mumbai alone is Rs 5 lakh crore !!! And if all plots of Missionaries and ex-British-collaberators is added, it will cross Rs 500 lakh crores AT LEAST !!! The man doesnt want to impose 1% wealth tax on that plots but is eager to put whole nation on run for this Rs 8 lakh crore of black wealth hoarded in cash !! And guess who made most money in note-exchange? Well, let me not cite that
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But as per RSS-workers, loss in election is NOT due to braindead ideas like DeMo, GST, GSTN, weaybill etc. But its all CM CShivrajji's fault.
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Well, now ball is in the court of sponsors. The sponsors own the media, and given that congress/rss/aap and SoMoke are all one and the same, it is paidmediamen who will decide who will win. And paidmediamen will decide based on what sponsors pay to say. If sponors pay well, bikau arnab may become anti-Modiji and pro-RaGa or pro-ArKe. And if sponors pay well to bikau Ravish, then he may become pro-Modji. And most sponors are now videshi, because desi elitemen except Mukeshbhai , Tata , Godrej are now all cash poor. And these 3 gentlemen too heavily depend on videshi techonoly and cant say no to videshi now.

So now vidhesi elitemen using paidmedia will decide the fate of may-2019 elections. This is the extent to which congress/rss/app and SoMoKe have ruined India.
Shit for brains Rahul the Mehta open your eyes and read below tweets by pollster.Stop being a Chinese agent doing constant randi rhona on GST common people have already given thumps up to GST and DEMO.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:41 pm

Oxfam hit job on Modi when he was in Davos https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.c ... oder-ngos/
On the day Prime Minister Narendra Modi reached Davos, the UK-based Oxfam released what many considered an explosive report. Entitled Reward Work, Not Wealth, the report suggested that “82% of the wealth generated last year went to the richest 1% of the global population, while the 3.7 billion people who make up the poorest half of the world saw no increase in their wealth.” Adding an Indian dimension to the horror story of global inequity, the report added India’s richest 1% garnered as much as 73% of the total wealth generated in the country in 2017.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by abhijit » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:58 pm

So last year Fadnavis asked people to have dry Holi on account of saving water. Has he made similar pledge this year? Or made school kids to take oath?

If anyone tells you to not use water during once in a year hindu festival then please ask them to use paper to wipe their butt. Until they stop using water for wiping their butt crisis will not be acknowledged.

Here is the stats:
1) Wiping butt with water is not necessary, it is cultural and there are easy alternatives available.

Each indian use average 500 ml water every day to wipe butt. Meaning 600 million liter water waste every day, or 22000 Cr liter water each year. This can be saved if the situation is really critical.

2) ask them to stop gargling after meal or breakfast. Again not necessary. You can gargle with the last cup of water you drink after meal and just swallow. 2 in 1. Each indian use 250 ml water every day to gargle. That means another 11000 Cr liter water save. Total 330000 Cr liter water.

If they don't agree then there is no crisis. Because it needs to be a crisis level to stop once in a year festival, no?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by shynee » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:47 pm

Is Karma playing with Chhotu Chidambaram?
But it may quite well be payback time for the 46 year old Karti. At a time, when the opposition has called this political vendetta, they may recall the ordeal 45 year old M Ravi, an industrialist had to go through for posting tweets to the younger Chidambaram. Ravi had tweeted during October 2012 that Karti had amassed more wealth than Robert Vadra, the son in law of Sonia Gandhi. Chidambaram Junior took offense to the post and complained to Puducherry IG Ranvirsingh Krushnaiyaa. The Tamil Nadu CID team, swooped down on Ravi, took down ​the ​three offensive posts, and arrested him under Section 66A of the Information Technology Act. A local magistrate ​finally​ released him on bail.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by suryag » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:05 am

There is no novelty in this thread. Everyday Rahul Mehta and Trilobite throw some nonsense and convoluted logic and there will be a few rebutting this nonsense. Can we please have separate threads where these two can wallow in their make believe world and conspiracy theories.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:21 am

Fugitive Economic Offenders Bill to deal with offenders fleeing country.
How are they planning to get this bill passed? Is this a "Money Bill"? Or through a joint session? Because I am sure the "seculars" would never allow such a bill to pass in Rajya Sabha at this point of time.
abhijit wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:58 pm
So last year Fadnavis asked people to have dry Holi on account of saving water. Has he made similar pledge this year? Or made school kids to take oath?
To be honest, I have not see any campaigns pro or anti-Holi this time. Not even the usual bout of pontificate from the "secular" brigade. So either the "seculars" have given up on this, or these campaigns have lost its sheen. "Uber-Secular" Fadnavis himself seems to have realised the mistake in what he was doing and has just kept quiet.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:14 am

The Seculars are probably going to lose 40 RS MP's in next month's elections, that along with AIDMK votes should start giving NDA majority.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Dumal » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:20 am

Sachin wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:21 am
Fugitive Economic Offenders Bill to deal with offenders fleeing country.
How are they planning to get this bill passed? Is this a "Money Bill"? Or through a joint session? Because I am sure the "seculars" would never allow such a bill to pass in Rajya Sabha at this point of time.
They may be making it an ordinance for now and later on pass it in the parliament.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:46 am

This is probably the event driving it.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 047454.cms

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Supratik » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:21 am

If they gain majority in RS with allies like AIADMK should start passing bills like TT. Only one year left before elections.

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