The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

Post by Vnms » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:03 pm

Let's discuss the current political situation in India here.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Vnms » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:20 pm

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Shyamal » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:30 pm

Happy to see this thread.
My first contribution -
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... a-4870106/

Things look dicey for BJP in the coming Gujarat assembly elections.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sicanta » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:03 pm

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:04 pm

Does seem to be a concerted campaign to sabotage train tracks. Authorities are not speaking to not cause panic?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Shyamal » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:05 pm

Most likely investigations are in a sensitive stage.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:25 pm

Air fare to increase by 15% due to increase in fuel price http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... IIndiaNews

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:06 pm

Clashes in many places in UP due to Durga puja-Moharram processions https://www.thequint.com/news/india/com ... pur-ballia

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Yagnasri » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:20 pm

Happy to know that the thread I have created regularly in brf started here immediately.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Vnms » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:53 pm

Yagnasri wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:20 pm
Happy to know that the thread I have created regularly in brf started here immediately.
Good to see you here Saar.

This thread is very important to all of us.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:11 am

Shyamal wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:30 pm
Happy to see this thread.
My first contribution -
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... a-4870106/

Things look dicey for BJP in the coming Gujarat assembly elections.
Some points to note:

1. A total of 6 'youths' from Hardik patel's whatever movement 'raised slogans' which has been made == disruption and major embarassment and what not by IE and assorted mediawalas.

2. lotus has spent ~20 yrs in power in Guj. Bound to be an uphill battle now with anti-incumbency kicking in.

3. Losing GJ is not == losing DL or even BH. Much more impact on national stage and loss of politial capital for MAD onlee.

All in all, I'd say BJP will still scrape through, somehow. Shah's grand projections of 150 seats outta 182 are unlikely to fructify, only

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:16 am

Indrad wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:06 pm
Clashes in many places in UP due to Durga puja-Moharram processions https://www.thequint.com/news/india/com ... pur-ballia
Report on twitter say sacking of a police thana happened. When cops can't protect themselves, who'll they protect amongst mangos? No wonder clamour for organizing yindoo yoots into political and even muscle-based pressure groups hasbeen steadily rising onlee. The muslims have shown it is oh-so-effective, onlee.

I await yogi sarkar's response. Hopefully it won't be knee-jerk but well thought out, combing and cordoning ops, flush out organizers, funders and planners of such stuff, not just pawns onlee.

Good police treatment will also help. Or so one hopes.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Yagnasri » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:20 am

Police of UP during the long rule of BSP and SP became weak and caste based. It takes time to build their confidence etc and install a measure of professional conduct in them.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:46 am

I'm liking shah's aggression.

Amit Shah to march against red and jihadi terrorism in Kerala (HT)
Shah will meet families of political violence and address a meeting in Pinarayi, chief minister Pinarayi Vijayan’s village on October 5.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Anantha » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:12 am

2019 elections is only 18 months away. We need a thread to collect data for use in SM and to disseminate widely later. Especially we need to collect info on journos, congis, commies who will be fighting for their survival and we need to gove that final kick.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by JohnTitor » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:42 am

Gus wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:04 pm
Does seem to be a concerted campaign to sabotage train tracks. Authorities are not speaking to not cause panic?
Very much so. The same happened in UP. This is why I fear for the HSR line.

One such obstacle and there will be huge destruction and loss of life. It will be impossible to police the entire length of the track. I'm not sure what policies will be in place for the safety of people and property.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Javee » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:01 am

Sabotage is a real threat, but withholding progress and changing our way life means we are surrendering with out fight. Current HSR is just between 2 states, both the states have decent IB and HUMINT.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by arshyam » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:56 am

Plus the HSR will be mostly elevated, and harder to cause mischief in.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by sanjayC » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:59 am

Government needs to change the law and mandate life imprisonment for people deliberately trying to sabotage railway tracks to derail trains. If accident happens due to sabotage and people die, then death sentence to saboteurs and their masterminds. It should be treated same as premeditated murder.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:23 am

sanjayC wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:59 am
Government needs to change the law and mandate life imprisonment for people deliberately trying to sabotage railway tracks to derail trains. If accident happens due to sabotage and people die, then death sentence to saboteurs and their masterminds. It should be treated same as premeditated murder.
More important, setup special courts/ fast-track tribunals for nat-sec cases with peremptory decisions (i.e., no appeal).

Some sentencing guidelines for nat-sec cases couldn't hurt either, IMHO.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sicanta » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:26 am

Durga Idol Immersion: Few Dared To Defy Banerjee Government, Traditional Day Of Immersion Skipped

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Shyamal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:37 am

WB does not really have an opposition.
No one will defy Mamata on the streets.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sicanta » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:44 am

I thought people will come out to uphold their traditions, especially after that big pan-state rallies organized few months back.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Shyamal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:52 am

Traditionally immersion occurs on dashami.
Ekadashi(the muharram day) is not traditionally an auspicious day for immersion.
People will never come out on their own if they do not see an politically viable alternative.
A present WB BJP is a joke. Hindu sanhati politically supports mamata - they chose their battles.
Mamata - other than jihadi issue, is still popular among poor hindus.
She has virtually no opposition on the streets.

I guess I posted this before - one cannot be powerful in WB without actual street power and organization.

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