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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:25 am
by chetak
Conversions are a potent political tool. There can be no two way to see this menace.

The xtian fear of brahmins seems to be deeply embedded and institutionalized not only as a deliberate doctrine of conversion but also, historically, the very raison d'être for the speed of xtian conversions in India being impeded and blunted.

The dalit (intellectuals and scholars) have been slyly and cleverly co-opted to keep the embers of this alleged "Brahminism" fanned and burning using false narratives and sensational reportage.

Christianity’s verdict on Hinduism: It is incompatible with the ‘will of God’
Christianity’s verdict on Hinduism: It is incompatible with the ‘will of God’

Christians, through the centuries, have critiqued the fundamental tenets of Hinduism through the lens of Christianity. They do not perceive Hinduism as a valid path that leads to the Almighty but a deluded religion that grapples with superstition and absurd beliefs.

K BHATTACHARJEE
DECEMBER 4, 2018

Christian missionaries have always been clear about their intentions in India and religious conversions. They have been decreed by Jesus Christ himself to spread Christianity all over the world and they zealously believe that unless every group in the world has Christian representation, Judgment Day will not arrive.

In their bid to convert Hindus, missionaries have always maintained that it is essential to understand Hinduism and Hindu society. They have often wondered why despite their efforts, Hinduism hasn’t fallen to Christianity yet and reflect deeply on what their strategy should be going forward. Therefore, it is imperative for Hindus to understand how Christianity perceives them if they are to ward off the gravest threats to their way of life.

In the March 1934 issue of ‘Thought’ (Fordham University Quarterly), A.J. Siqueira wrote, “Our purpose has been to analyze the philosophical and theological complex of the Hindu mind in its attitude to Christ. Hinduism has no infallible exponent, no official interpreter, no authentic “catechism” of doctrine: quot capita tot sententiae. So we have drawn largely on Hindu sources, avoiding the intricacies of Hindu philosophy that would lead the uninitiated reader a merry dance. Indeed, the missionary who would preach Christ to the Hindu should understand the Hindu mentality, lest he beat the air in vain or betray his Master by a timid compromise.” Thus, they were clear that they needed to understand the Hindu mind to be able to make missionary work more effective.

The late Reverend Charles F. Aiken, who was a Professor of History of Religion at Catholic University, wrote of Hinduism, “Hinduism, in its narrower sense, is the conglomeration of religious beliefs and practices existing in India that have grown out of ancient Brahminism, (q.v.), and which stand in sharp contrast to orthodox, traditional Brahminism today. Hinduism is the popular, distorted, corrupted side of Brahminism.” Here, we see a clear effort to alienate Brahmins from Hinduism and to portray Hinduism as a derivative of ‘Brahminism’, contrary to all established fact. He writes further, “In the pantheistic all-god Brahma, the whole world of deities, spirits, and other objects of worship is contained, so that Hinduism adapts itself to every form of religion, from the lofty monotheism of the cultivated Brahmin to the degraded nature-worship of the ignorant, half savage peasant.” India, he says, “has much of value to learn from Christian civilization.”

Sir Monier-Williams, a renowned scholar, said of Hinduism in his book “Brahminism and Hinduism” (1891), “it holds out the right hand of brotherhood to nature-worshippers, demon-worshippers, animal-worshippers, tree-worshippers, fetish-worshippers. It does not scruple to permit the most grotesque forms of idolatry and the most degrading varieties of superstition. And it is to this latter fact that yet another remarkable peculiarity of Hinduism is mainly due—namely, that in no other system in the world is the chasm more vast which separates the religion of the higher, cultured, and thoughtful classes from that of the lower, uncultured and unthinking masses”. Thus, we have reason to suspect that the term ‘Brahminism’ as is currently discussed and understood in the academia has evangelical origins.

In fact, Christian missionaries paid special attention to the Brahmin caste. As per Catherine Cornille, Catholics in the 19th century firmly believed that conversion of Brahmans would lead to a conversion of the rest of the people of India.

Early missionary texts also reveal that Christian missionaries in the 19th century did not really view the caste system in as much of an evil as it does now. Jean-Antoine Dubois, in his book “Hindu manners, customs and ceremonies” that has come to be regarded as an authoritative figure of scholarship, wrote, “For my part, having lived many years on friendly terms with the Hindus, I have been able to study their national life and character closely, and I have arrived at a quite opposite decision on the subject of caste. I believe caste division to be in many respects the chef d’oeuvre, the happiest effort of Hindu legislation. I am persuaded that it is simply and solely due to the distribution of the people into castes that India did not lapse in the state of barbarism, and that she preserved and perfected the arts and sciences of civilization whilst most other nations of the earth remained in a state of barbarism.”

Thus, it appears that Christian demonization of the caste system occurred when they realized after careful introspection that they could use the caste fault-lines within Hindu society to convert the populace.

Alexander Duff, the first overseas missionary of the Church of Scotland to India, wrote, “Our present purpose not being to expose, but simply to exhibit the system of Hinduism, it has all along been taken for granted that in the eye of the intelligent Christian, its best confutation must be the extravagance and absurdity of its tenets.”

Anthony E. Clark, who teaches history at Whitworth University, in his article “All is Not One” elaborates on “Hinduism’s Incompatibility with Christian thought”. He says, “Catholic Christians are beholden to truth, and truth is our best defence against the claims of religious pluralism, which is the foundational assertion of Hinduism.” Clark also believes that there is a contradiction in the belief that “all religious traditions are different paths to the same end.” He states emphatically, “To assert that two conflicting positions are in fact correlative is not only irrational but untruthful. Christianity’s claim to be the only true faith, founded upon the natural and revealed certainties given by one God, cannot by sound reasoning fit into the ideals of religious pluralism.” He adds further, “One of the principal Catholic objections to the Hindu belief that all things are indistinguishable from one another is that it denies the possibility of a creator God. This and the notion of a Brahmanic pantheism are forcefully rejected in the Nicene Creed, in which Catholics proclaim, “I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible.””

Thus, we see clearly, contrary to the popular approach by Hindu spiritual leaders of asserting that Christianity is merely another path that leads to God, Christian intellectuals are very clear on the incompatibility between Hinduism and Christianity. They not only deny the virtues of religious pluralism but exalt Christianity’s rejection of it as one of the Abrahamic religion’s principle virtues.

The zeal of Christian missionaries can be gauged from the fact that the then Pope, John Paul II, exhorted Christian evangelicals to convert the region during his visit to India in 1999. The Chicago Tribune reported, “The 79-year-old pontiff exhorted a synod of Asian bishops to evangelize the region in the coming millennium. He told them to go forth and conquer the continent for Christ just as the church had done in Europe during the first millennium and in the Americas in the second.”

Christianity has always been against all forms of Hindu worship. It has a special enmity towards Yoga. The Nagaland Baptist Church Council, earlier this year, had directed its associate Churches to not practice Yoga as it is incompatible with Christianity. Christian parents in the USA have frequently objected to Yoga being taught in schools. Christian priests oppose Yoga because it puts the human soul in “jeopardy“. The Syro Malabar Church in Kerala asserted that Yoga is against Christian principles and should not be practised as a means to get “closer to God”. Even Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger himself, who would go on to become Pope Benedict XVI, warned Catholics against ‘eastern meditation practices’ such as Zen and Yoga in a letter to Bishops in 1989.

The Hindu response to Christian objection to Yoga has been to forfeit its claim to Yoga which directly plays into the hands of Christian missionaries. Hindus should not sacrifice their claim over spiritual practices if Christians object to them because it merely portrays the insecurity of Hindus.

Another Christian scholar says, “Hinduism lacks any understanding that God created this world for a good purpose. It is common for Hindus to speak of God bringing the universe into existence simply as a “playful” exercise of His power. Also lacking is a conception of God as infinitely holy and righteous and as the One to whom we as His creatures are accountable for the way we conduct our lives.”

One of the most fundamental issues Christians have with Hinduism is idolatry. The worship of idols is denounced in the holy scripture of the faith itself. Ed Stetzer asserts proudly on Christianity Today, “As our love for God increases, our tolerance for idolatry will decrease.” On the other hand, murthi-pujan is essential To Hinduism. Although, there are certain strains of Hinduism that decry idolatry, which could have emerged as a consequence of Christian influence in the medieval past, the majority of Hindus cannot imagine worship without idols.

Thus, we see that Christian missionaries have a clear critique of Hinduism based on their religious scriptures. To us, it appears bigotry but to them, it’s the commandment of their God. While Hindus tend to concede ground to not appear bigoted, they do not care about such indictments as they perceive themselves to be following the will of God.

Christians, based on their understanding of Hinduism, have devoted a great deal of time to perfecting the tactics used to convert Hindus. There are numerous websites on the internet which offer advise missionaries on how to convert Hindus. One such website says, “ Offer Jesus’ Forgiveness. Bakht Singh, a convert from Hinduism and an Indian evangelist, once said, “I have never yet failed to get a hearing if I talk to [Hindus] about forgiveness of sins and peace and rest in your heart” (Hesselgrave, 169). Forgiveness is certainly a need for Hindus because it is not available in their karma-based belief system. The law of karma is like a law of nature — every cause has its effect and there is no place for mercy. The fact that forgiveness is not available in Hinduism troubles many Hindus, for they are aware that the actions that bind them to this illusory realm keep accumulating, and the prospect of escape is hopelessly remote.”

Conclusion
We see in this article that Christians, through the centuries, have critiqued the fundamental tenets of Hinduism through the lens of Christianity. They do not perceive Hinduism as a valid path that leads to the Almighty but a deluded religion that grapples with superstition and absurd beliefs. Furthermore, they have evaluated Hindu society with the objective of conversions in mind.

They have also changed tactics depending on the situation at hand and at some point, realized that they could use the caste fault-lines to their benefit. Conversely, Hinduism views them as one of the many paths that lead to the attainment of salvation. Unfortunately, Christians haven’t accorded to them the same respect. They regard Hinduism as incompatible with Christianity and their missionary work is dedicated to eradicating it.

There has been, however, a Hindu intellectual response to the onslaught of Christianity. That will be the subject of a separate article.


K Bhattacharjee
Average in every department

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:25 am
by gauravsh
Ghar wapsi of Christian Michel is done. I might be thinking loud here, but the capture and return of Sheikha Latifa bint Mohammed Al Maktoum, sometime back might have had a role in it.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:39 pm
by Primus
crams wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:51 am
Guys, what the hell really went on at Bulandshahr where a cop was killed. ...............

But on a serious note, YogiJi should come down on however are the culprits. This was sheer barbaric mob terror, no other way to describe it. No need to give it an ideological cover.
From what I've heard on various channels (Zee's Sudhir Choudhary is perhaps the most reasonable), it appears that the inspector was first surrounded by the mob and his service pistol seized by the crowd. Then he was assaulted by a sharp stone and as he lay injured on the ground by his vehicle, his driver and assistant disappeared. He was then shot by his own pistol. His vehicle was then set on fire. It all started by a group of people bringing in cow parts and displaying them openly following which a crowd of several hundred from villages outside the area gathered and went on a rampage. According to local villagers none of the miscreants were from their constituency and they could not recognize any of them.

It all points to a major conspiracy and Yogi Ji needs to come down hard on the culprits, whoever they may be. Of course if it turns out to indeed be vigilantes from the BJP it would be a big blow, but intuitively, that is not how the RSS or the BJP usually works, so who knows. Several people have already been arrested and the truth will come out I am sure.

These are tough times for Dharma, seems like it is under assault from all sides. Hopefully not its own.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:02 pm
by Dumal
These are tough times for Dharma, seems like it is under assault from all sides. Hopefully not its own.
We can expect a slew of such manufactured incidents, issues and other assorted outrage over the next 6 months. Already seeing wide publicity for farmers getting a pittance for tomatoes, etc., armed forces salary increase turned down by the MoF and similar. The BJP states have to be on their toes.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:11 pm
by crams
Guys, you know I have some disagreements with ModiJi, especially centered on his Paki policies. But add to that what I think was totally unnecessary although I think it was 'harmless', namely, what was the need for him to pose with some Bollywood Bimbo's love fest with some American celebrity? Can you imagine Trump doing the same? Or Theresa May or Angela Merkel.

This whole wedding hoopla from Indian middle class and Lutyens media and DDM is a pathetic display from sick colonized minds. And I can bet you, those going so euphoric over the details of this mega wedding are the same people who berate ModiJi and BJP on Dalits, Muslims, you name it. So ModiJi is right when he calls these people 5-star activists. Thats why its all the more surprising why he would waste his time with a photo-op.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:29 pm
by ashokk
Youth Congress expels leader who appeared as lawyer for Christian Michel :mrgreen:
The row erupted after Suresh Nakhua, spokesperson of the BJP's Mumbai unit, tweeted that Aljo K Joseph, who appeared for Michel, was national in charge of the legal department of Indian Youth Congress.


"Any guesses who is lawyer for Christian Michel? Mr Aljo K Joseph, National in charge, legal department, Indian Youth Congress (Youth wing of Cong led by out on bail Rahul Gandhi)," he tweeted.

BOOM Any guesses who is lawyer for Christian Michel ? Mr @Aljokjoseph , National incharge, legal department, Indi… https://t.co/53kRyNs7jU
— Suresh Nakhua 🇮🇳 (@SureshNakhua) 1544008177000

Soon after, in charge of BJP's national information and technology department Amit Malviya tweeted: "Meet the Congressman who is going to defend AgustaWestland 'middleman' Christian Michel... Does it get more obvious than that?."

Meet the Congressman who is going to defend AgustaWestland ‘middleman’ Christian Michel... Does it get more obvious… https://t.co/l7j7CUmQSc
— Amit Malviya (@amitmalviya) 1544012978000

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:00 am
by Prasan
.Amritsar Train Tragedy: Probe Indicts Congress Councillor’s Son

The son of a Congress leader, who organised the Dussehra event, has been indicted in a magistrate-level inquiry into the Amritsar train tragedy in which 61 people were killed. The probe has not held minister Navjot Singh Sidhu’s wife, former Amritsar-East MLA Navjot Kaur Sidhu, guilty. However, councillor Vijay Madan’s son Mithu Madan, who was one of the organisers, is a close aide of the Sidhus. The report concludes that the organisers did not take proper permission for the event and did not make arrangements to manage the crowd.



According to reports, Mithu Madan used the influence of the Sidhus to “tweak” the safety requirements for the events. A 300-page report on the accident has been submitted by Jalandhar Divisional Commissioner B Purushartha. The Government Railway Police is also investigating the incident.
https://swarajyamag.com/current-affairs ... s-and-more

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:43 am
by Vikas
crams wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:11 pm
Guys, you know I have some disagreements with ModiJi, especially centered on his Paki policies. But add to that what I think was totally unnecessary although I think it was 'harmless', namely, what was the need for him to pose with some Bollywood Bimbo's love fest with some American celebrity? Can you imagine Trump doing the same? Or Theresa May or Angela Merkel.

This whole wedding hoopla from Indian middle class and Lutyens media and DDM is a pathetic display from sick colonized minds. And I can bet you, those going so euphoric over the details of this mega wedding are the same people who berate ModiJi and BJP on Dalits, Muslims, you name it. So ModiJi is right when he calls these people 5-star activists. Thats why its all the more surprising why he would waste his time with a photo-op.
crams ji, you are seeing images in the cloud except for the DDM part. We had more noise and news about Ranvir-Deepika or Anushka-Virat wedding as compared to news on Priyanka's wedding which surprisingly went low key in comparison.
Anyways remember these are mostly paid affairs with PR machine working overtime. I don't think you can call this colonized mind syndrome but the chase for breaking news syndrome.
Moreover DT or Merkel or May are not a benchmark for us and (on a Jestful side) doesn't it show your colonized mind that you are presenting them as some statesmen who Modiji should follow.
Any wedding betwen 2 celeberities in India is a big deal for media and they are not going to let go of the oppurtunity to hype it.
Heck even Sridevi's death got more hours of news than anything else that happened in those 3-4 days.

PS: Modiji also attended reception of Virat-Anushka in Delhi.

PS to PS: Priyanka Chopra has been Miss World, had a successful Hindi Movie career, has done work in Hollywood, so to call her a Bimbo is uncalled for.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:00 am
by Gus
when is counting?

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:57 am
by Aditya_V
December 11

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:21 pm
by Primus
Vikas wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:43 am

Any wedding betwen 2 celeberities in India is a big deal for media and they are not going to let go of the oppurtunity to hype it.


PS: Modiji also attended reception of Virat-Anushka in Delhi.

PS to PS: Priyanka Chopra has been Miss World, had a successful Hindi Movie career, has done work in Hollywood, so to call her a Bimbo is uncalled for.
A friend here knows the DJ who did the event. Apparently there was so much secrecy and exclusivity that he was not allowed to take his cell phone in, for fear of sending photos/videos prematurely to the outside world, since they had a contract with People magazine.

Politicians often have to pose with such celebrities, it is part of their roster unfortunately.

As for PC being a Bimbo, having a successful career does not mean much, IMHO. Britney Spears and Paris Hilton come to mind. For me any Indian celebrity who gains fame/fortune from tarnishing the national ethos or bashing Dharma is not worth fawning over. That is why I do not watch any SRK or Little Khan movies any more.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:25 pm
by Primus
Dumal wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:02 pm
These are tough times for Dharma, seems like it is under assault from all sides. Hopefully not its own.
We can expect a slew of such manufactured incidents, issues and other assorted outrage over the next 6 months. Already seeing wide publicity for farmers getting a pittance for tomatoes, etc., armed forces salary increase turned down by the MoF and similar. The BJP states have to be on their toes.
According to more recent news, the incident at Bulandshahar is particularly disturbing as it has all the signs of a well planned conspiracy.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:44 pm
by Vikas
Primus wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:21 pm
Vikas wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:43 am

As for PC being a Bimbo, having a successful career does not mean much, IMHO. Britney Spears and Paris Hilton come to mind. For me any Indian celebrity who gains fame/fortune from tarnishing the national ethos or bashing Dharma is not worth fawning over. That is why I do not watch any SRK or Little Khan movies any more.
Primus Ji, Successful and famous celeberaties who are closet BRF Jingo's is very hard to find. You will have to wait till I become a big name in movie industry :)
At least I don't know of anyone in Movie Industry, exceptions not counted. One has to play the game till you own the game.
Otherwise crams ji's pain was media hyping up the event & NM attending the reception but then that is the nature of today's media and part of NM's job otherwise outside media, hardly anyone knows who her husband is or that she was even getting married.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:52 pm
by Primus
Vikas wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:44 pm


Primus Ji, Successful and famous celeberaties who are closet BRF Jingo's is very hard to find. You will have to wait till I become a big name in movie industry :)
Willing to wait happily :D

Seriously though, a few names do come to mind, eg. Anupam Kher and Vivek Agnihotri. Granted they may not be at the level of the Khans, but the tide will turn, slowly perhaps. In Bhaiwood, all it will take is for the stranglehold of the D Company to be loosened or done away with. That too will happen. I can't wait for the day when the Big Boss is brought in to face justice.
At least I don't know of anyone in Movie Industry, exceptions not counted. One has to play the game till you own the game.
Otherwise crams ji's pain was media hyping up the event & NM attending the reception but then that is the nature of today's media and part of NM's job otherwise outside media, hardly anyone knows who her husband is or that she was even getting married.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:54 pm
by Vikas
back to regular broadcast, Just wondering if Congress wins 2 out 3 states, how it would pan out for congress and BJP.
If we go by the voter turnout and conventional wisdom of higher number = dissatisfied voters, The risk of BJP losing all 3 states is very high.
Add boredom from the same Govt in power and resurgent congress with better political strategy post Gujrat & KA, we may see the unthinkable happening.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:14 pm
by chetak
Joy Bhattacharjya Verified account @joybhattacharj

Wow. Today I learnt that in the late eighties, Mother Teresa and the Missionaries of Charity had a controlling stake in the advertising agency Lintas!

12:58 AM - 6 Dec 2018 from New Delhi, India

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:19 pm
by chetak
twitter
Most 3Lderegistered Cos hve not come back to claim their bank deposits worth Rs 37500 cr till now!!An est says Rs 3 L cr-in the process of getting unearthed.
Now you can understand a bit why every other party in the country is pitting against NM and forming 2nd 3rd 4th fronts RT

3:18 AM - 6 Dec 2018

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:32 pm
by Gus
DD is pushing its you tube channel for election coverage. Do follow and support.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:59 pm
by chetak
also, see the full interview of margaret alva below

Poor Christian Michel was following his family business and
Sonia ji was just following her own family tradition.


https://twitter.com/HLKodo/status/1070295037013970948

twitter

Prequel for the Christian Michel story, after watching this listen to what Modi spoke about this https://twitter.com/HLKodo/status/1069961705818591232 … "people behind this are very experienced and they have perfectly practiced the art of doing wrong deeds
This is worth remembering, PM about the Augusta Westland scam

https://twitter.com/HLKodo/status/1069961705818591232
Full interview of margaret alva

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZLaFsmc3dY

To The Point : Senior Congress Leader Margaret Alva Attacks Sonia Gandhi


Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:39 am
by Sachin
The extradition of Christian Michael seems to have been a feather in the cap moment for the "communal forces" (Modi et. al) :lol:. The timing is most perfect, and read some news paper reports indicating that the Rafale discussions would now be slowly turned around to Augusta Westland discussions. With Ra.Ga and So.Ga also getting an unfavourable verdict in their IT returns issue, this would be another trouble put on their heads. It was a Congress leader lawyer who is now defending Christian Michael; which also exposes the INC "interest" in this case.

And as a bonus; Poojaneeya Mallya-ji is also now talking about repayment his dues.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:01 pm
by Primus
^

Been following the 'debates' on various channels. The Congoons are really hurting and Burnol sales have gone through the roof. They do not seem to know how to counter this story. Regardless of whether Michel will sing or not, the fact that all the lawyers (new ones now that Joseph is out) are from their camp is something they cannot explain. One guy tried to say all lawyers are affiliated with some party or the other and so what if these are from the Congress party. That statement in itself is self-incriminatory, in which country are 'all lawyers affiliated with political parties'?

In addition Sidhu's story of allowing pro-Pak slogans in his rally is hurting a lot, again, other than calling it all 'fake news' they have no defense.

I would be extremely surprised if Rajasthan now votes for Congress.

Finally, agree, if Vijay Mallya is brought back, Choksi and Nirav would not be far behind. Once all these miscreants are brought to book, it will be a coup de grace for the Congress in India.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:56 pm
by crams
Exit polls indicate a close contest. Even in MP and Chattisgarh, it seems neck to neck, and Rajasthan seems gone for BJP. Following the news channels closely. Waiting for Pravin Patil's analysis.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:32 pm
by hanumadu
Only certainity seems to be TRS winning in TG and Congress winning in Rajasthan.

@VDPAssociates is giving comfortable majority for BJP In MP and CG.

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Rajasthan Vote Share Projections #AssemblyElections2018
Cong+-43%
BJP-40%
Others-17%

BJP did cover a lot of ground to come within 3% of congress vote share.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:47 pm
by chadev
Miserable 1 week ahead. Only Jan Ki Baat exit poll, has shown BJP-Congress near equal is the 3 states. Other surveys showing Congress edge in MP, big lead in case of Rajasthan and 50-50 in CH.

It will be interesting to see how BJP deals with a demoralised cadre. Many BJP voters might just stay at home in upcoming elections.

Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:00 pm
by crams
Not sure how much we can rust exit polls, but certainly Pappu and other anti-BJP forces have reason to be optimistic given the trends that are showing up. I thought both MP and Chattisgargh are in BJP's kitty, but it doesn't seem so. Yuck, can stand this :-). So if the exit polls stand, we are looking at 5-0 wipe out of BJP, and thugbandhan will get a huge boost. However, the Telangan verdict with Pappu and CN failing throws up an intriguing conundrum on how the thugbandhan will evolve. Will KCR continue to chart an independent course?