The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

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Post by tajmahal321 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:29 am

Indian police department is a legacy of British rule. Many instances of it being used by state governments against its own people. Latest example is West Bengal and Kerala. Central government is becoming a mute spectator when its own citizens are harmed by the state police department. In addition, state police department cannot be trusted to gather intelligence about anti national activities. BJP government needs to bring a big change. Calling President's rule is not a solution. It is not a practical long term solution. Only solution is to change the scope of CRPF to CPF. "Reserved" needs to be removed from its department. Meaning it is not something deployed only for special situations. CPF needs to there in every state capitals to begin with and slowly expanded to every district HQs. Role of NIA needs to expanded to gather intelligence against anti-national activities with its own personals than relying on state police departments. All these departments will be obviously reporting to central government and with power of acting independently.

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Post by Sachin » Fri May 17, 2019 6:14 am

tajmahal321 wrote:Indian police department is a legacy of British rule. Many instances of it being used by state governments against its own people. Latest example is West Bengal and Kerala. Central government is becoming a mute spectator when its own citizens are harmed by the state police department.
The British could still get their work done by leveraging the IP (Imperial Police) officers and many other British officers who worked in the native kingdoms. They all shared a common bonding and a common language. The IPS (Indian Police Service) was introduced to get a similar facility for the central government. IPS officers trained together, and will have a common grounding/understanding and then gets allocated to state cadres. They can still function (and even share information etc.) in thanks to their parent cadre being one.

But over the years the political setup in India changed. The IPS officers no more became neutral and as we see today started taking decisions based on political ideology. I have also noticed that many state governments now try to get IPS officers who are from their own states (which actually destroys the original intentions of a pan-India service). These people would soon become the puppets of the political masters; especially in states like KL and WB which has some regional goonda gangs as political parties. These state level parties generally have zero vision on a "United India", as they jolly well know that their parties are non-entities outside the respective states (TMC in WB, CPI & CPI(M) in KL). They want to run the states like "mini kingdoms" with gullible idiots as citizens.
It is not a practical long term solution. Only solution is to change the scope of CRPF to CPF.
CRPF, CISF, ITBP, RPF etc. are all classified under the umbrella of CPO(Central Police Organisation). And their current mandate is that they are NOT to involve in regular policing work (which includes investigation & prosecution of criminals etc.). They are essentially deployed as "man power" in trouble prone areas. Because of all this; these CPOs also lack expertise in doing good investigations, gathering evidence, and then putting up good cases in the court. Their officer cadre (SI,Insp, Asst.Commdt) etc generally are not well trained in the works of a local police SI,Insp and Dy.SP.

It is to mitigate this problem that GoI came up with the idea of CBI. This is the "police force" which is under GoI which has pan-India jurisdiction and have good man power to do good crime investigations etc. The NIA is a similar force which focuses on terrorism. And there is also a sizeable cadre of state police officers who work in these units on "deputation". Perhaps GoI should focus on increasing the size of these units so that they can take up more cases in which state government's political attitude is not in sync with the Constituitional guide lines.

What may also be done is to have laws formulated for transporting criminals to jails outside their domicile state, and trying political crimes etc. outside the state. Many of the political crimes happens because the people involved knows that the state level machinery would protect them (KL is the prime example for this).

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Post by chetak » Fri May 17, 2019 6:39 am

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Post by tajmahal321 » Fri May 17, 2019 3:11 pm

IPS officers though recruited by GOI reports to respective state governments.

CBI is used for post crime investigation. GOI need to expand NIA to gather counter intelligence against anti national activities before they spread or before the crime. They also needs to be used to gather intelligence and evidence against state governments planning to use state police departments against its own people. I am surprised that GOI don't have intelligence gathering folks on the ground to get hard proofs about booth capturing etc happening in WB. If they cannot do inside our own country, then how can we trust their intelligence gathering ability inside the enemy territory.

Role of CPO needs to be expanded from their current responsibility of just providing extra boots on the ground as per request from the state.


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CRPF, CISF, ITBP, RPF etc. are all classified under the umbrella of CPO(Central Police Organisation). And their current mandate is that they are NOT to involve in regular policing work (which includes investigation & prosecution of criminals etc.). They are essentially deployed as "man power" in trouble prone areas. Because of all this; these CPOs also lack expertise in doing good investigations, gathering evidence, and then putting up good cases in the court. Their officer cadre (SI,Insp, Asst.Commdt) etc generally are not well trained in the works of a local police SI,Insp and Dy.SP.

It is to mitigate this problem that GoI came up with the idea of CBI. This is the "police force" which is under GoI which has pan-India jurisdiction and have good man power to do good crime investigations etc. The NIA is a similar force which focuses on terrorism. And there is also a sizeable cadre of state police officers who work in these units on "deputation". Perhaps GoI should focus on increasing the size of these units so that they can take up more cases in which state government's political attitude is not in sync with the Constituitional guide lines.

What may also be done is to have laws formulated for transporting criminals to jails outside their domicile state, and trying political crimes etc. outside the state. Many of the political crimes happens because the people involved knows that the state level machinery would protect them (KL is the prime example for this).

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by SSundar » Fri May 17, 2019 5:58 pm

Interesting how the general ambiance across MSM as well as SM has turned a bit into a "BJP may be losing 2019" color. The "leaked" India Today video, the higher noise made by MGB and Congis about forming the government, more SM and Prime Time Debate noise by Congis about Modi packing his things, etc. gives those of us 10,000 miles away the impression that things may have turned against the BJP. Only Twitter users 5Forty3 and Savyasachi are providing overly positive reports from the ground.

Is this a concerted effort to try and sway voters against BJP in the 7th phase?

Twitter conspiracy theories say that this is a setup to start a massive campaign against EVM fraud by saying "Exit polls indicated a different result than EVM".

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Post by crams » Fri May 17, 2019 6:13 pm

My main CT is that Congoons and other BIF are working with their US/UK partners to do some hara kiri on the vote count. This crying against EVM is a just a decoy to deflect their nefarious game-plan. Again, as I said, this is just my CT, maybe complete bogus and based on my utter disregard, contempt, and distrust of Congoons and BIF who will go to any length to dislodge ModiJi/BJP. Its pure ideology, they just hate any semblance of Hindu resurgence, and a BJP re-election will be just that.

Like ModiJi said, based on my 'raw' wisdom. just looking at the crowd at ModiJi rallies, the pre-election opinion polls, and general buzz among hoi polloi, I would be shocked beyond belief if there is no NDA victory by a reasonably comfortable margin.

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Post by Muns » Fri May 17, 2019 10:55 pm

Hi guys. Been a busy few weeks for all of us. One thing that I didn't see highlighted here was the gruesome murder of Dhruv Tyagi. Think that few organizations have really reported it and as usual it has not been in the mainstream. We have been one to try and take of the story especially with elections which are set to occur on Sunday. Really a gruesome story of how a dad tried to confront a Muslim man and his son for passing lewd remarks on his daughter while they were returning home. Next thing the Islamists wife hands him a butcher knife, for which he proceeds to stab and slash at both Dhruv tyagi, killing him and grievously injuring his son as well who remains in a critical state.
What's even more shocking is that none of the famed thugbandhan have done anything to really take up the story yet again. We have done what we can buy releasing another opinion video on this especially on the eve of elections on Sunday.

It's been a busy two weeks but we have repeatedly released such videos on Mamta, Priyanka, Rahul and done whatever we can on our social media sites as well. What's being of course especially disgusting is Jihadidi and her tantrics in Bengal. I really hope that Modi and Shah's efforts have not really been wasted. I think for a lot of us it is coming to be election fatigue as well. The next couple of days are crucial in trying to spread some of these messages.
Hence, I will post the latest opinion video with regard to Dhruv Tyagi and I'm hoping that more people will visit the channel to see some of the videos that we have made on Jihadidi and her Masters. Kejriwal even to this date has not contacted the family at this time.

So many crony instances of anti-Hindu hatred, that it really has become hard to believe. Kamal Hassan raking up the whole godse thing really shows that our own worst enemies are us ourselves.

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Post by tajmahal321 » Sat May 18, 2019 12:43 am

I believe there is not much uncertainty in the outcome. Even the liberal journals have started telling from last few days that NDA is coming back to power. But noone is sure about BJP getting majority by itself depends on how many seats they can get in UP and WB.
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Fri May 17, 2019 5:58 pm
Interesting how the general ambiance across MSM as well as SM has turned a bit into a "BJP may be losing 2019" color. The "leaked" India Today video, the higher noise made by MGB and Congis about forming the government, more SM and Prime Time Debate noise by Congis about Modi packing his things, etc. gives those of us 10,000 miles away the impression that things may have turned against the BJP. Only Twitter users 5Forty3 and Savyasachi are providing overly positive reports from the ground.

Is this a concerted effort to try and sway voters against BJP in the 7th phase?

Twitter conspiracy theories say that this is a setup to start a massive campaign against EVM fraud by saying "Exit polls indicated a different result than EVM".

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Post by abhijit » Sat May 18, 2019 12:07 pm

Today I unsubscribed netflix. They have crossed the line of entertainment and have become politically driven streaming. Latest hinduphobic content was the last straw for me.

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Post by chetak » Sun May 19, 2019 7:27 am

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That time in 2007 when BJP nearly got banned

That time in 2007 when BJP nearly got banned

The moral of this story is that with Congress in power, Emergency is never too far away. The Emergency nearly came knocking on our doors just 11 years ago. In 2019, the BJP will face a Congress that is much more angry and vengeful than the Congress of 2004.

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Post by la.khan » Sun May 19, 2019 11:00 am

FWIW:
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Personally, I don't know what other polls are saying. Neither have access to TV nor the time.
But let me say this unequivocally, we are 100% confident about our numbers and our models, even if the whole world says something else!
3:36 PM · May 19, 2019
My guess is that BJP alone gets 320+ seats and NDA is 350+.

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Post by tajmahal321 » Sun May 19, 2019 1:04 pm

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#ChintamaniSpeaks #Elections2019 @Election_in Here is the most awaited #ExitPoll2019 by #Chintamani5Dots
BJP 285, NDA 347 (+/-16)
Cong 53, UPA 89 (+/- 2/3)
Others 107

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Post by SSundar » Sun May 19, 2019 8:48 pm

Possible AAP wipe out is good news. Tells us sanity is returning to Delhi-ites and Punjabis.
BJP projected to win only 1 seat in Kerala. Tells us not much has changed in God's own land.
Telengana, AP and Karnataka are going in the expected directions.
Tamil Nadu is going in the expected direction as well, except that the projected 2 seats for BJP is disappointing. All 5 BJP candidates in TN are very strong. The victory of each of them ought to send a strong economic-growth message to the TN population. Their failure signals the opposite - continued East-Timorization of TN.

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Post by chetak » Sun May 19, 2019 9:34 pm

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Post by tajmahal321 » Mon May 20, 2019 1:20 am

according to savyasachi, there is a chance to win in Pathanamthitta also.
Because of demographic issue (hindus only close to 50% in most LS seats) and BJP org weak in most areas, winning more seats is difficult this time.
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Possible AAP wipe out is good news. Tells us sanity is returning to Delhi-ites and Punjabis.
BJP projected to win only 1 seat in Kerala. Tells us not much has changed in God's own land.
Telengana, AP and Karnataka are going in the expected directions.
Tamil Nadu is going in the expected direction as well, except that the projected 2 seats for BJP is disappointing. All 5 BJP candidates in TN are very strong. The victory of each of them ought to send a strong economic-growth message to the TN population. Their failure signals the opposite - continued East-Timorization of TN.

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Post by Aditya_V » Mon May 20, 2019 2:48 am

Quite Frankly many exit polls are guess work, we will see what the actual results are on 23 May 19. I hope BJP gets through safely.

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Post by tajmahal321 » Mon May 20, 2019 2:03 pm

Hope Modi don't repeat his mistakes in his second term.

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Post by SSundar » Mon May 20, 2019 2:16 pm

Axis and Thandhi TV seat-by-seat exit polls of TN look like a sickular dream come true.

BJP wipe out of all seats except Kanyakumari where it is too close to call. CPI trouncing BJP in Coimbatore, the poster town of entrepreneurship and industrialization. Kanimozhi trouncing Tamizhisai in Tuticorin and Karti Chidambaram decimating H. Raja in Sivagangai.

I wonder if TN really has degraded to the extent that Coimbatore elects a Communist, or if people are hiding their BJP vote from the exit pollsters. I hope the latter.

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Post by SSundar » Tue May 21, 2019 5:19 am

Congis are spreading alternate "surveys" showing BJP under 200 and Congis + Others crossing 300+. It is not clear what they achieve with this given that the counting is 2 days from now. Is something afoot?

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Post by Aditya_V » Tue May 21, 2019 5:35 am

Going by past trends of 2014, UP 2017, if they loose they don't blame thier leaders but EVM's until the next election cycle.

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Post by chetak » Tue May 21, 2019 6:18 am

I just love it when the commies/naxals/liberals talk of "democracy" because that is absolutely the very first thing that will evaporate if they ever came to power and did what they wanted to do


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