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Leaked files: Pakistan tried to disrupt 2009 Indian elections too with major terror event

Leaked files: Pakistan tried to disrupt 2009 Indian elections too with major terror event

By Manu Pubby
Feb 20, 2019

NEW DELHI: Pakistan attempted to disrupt the last Indian national elections in 2009 too with a major terror event that was backed by heavy infiltration of Jaish and Lashkar terrorists from across the Line of Control, a leaked, top secret US government cable reveals.

Diplomatic sources fear that a similar plan may be unfolding ahead of the general elections this year as well with the Pulwana terror strike that has left the Indian government with no option but to respond with military action. There is also a belief that the attack bears the strong signature of a Pakistan ISI backed move to hit India and engineer a divide ahead of the elections.

A similar plot was being rolled off when the senior Indian leadership, including then National Security Advisor MK Naryanan briefed visiting US officials a week before elections in April 2009 that a dramatic increase had taken place in the number of terrorists crossing over and that it was inconceivable that “this escalation is not orchestrated by elements of the Government of Pakistan”.

“Narayanan and Menon (then foreign secretary) speculated that the upcoming (April 16-May 15) Indian national elections may be the proximate cause of the expanded cross-border efforts. A substantial terrorist event would both impact on the conduct of the elections (and possibly their outcome) and put enormous new pressure on the Indian government to respond in some major way,” the secret US cable that was leaked in August 2011 says.

The meeting between senior Indian officials and Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen took place on April 8, a week before elections started.

While it is not clear if the US managed to pressurise Pakistan adequately after the Indian diplomatic push but no substantive terror attack took place ahead of the 2009 elections that had the potential to disrupt the process.

A `non-paper’ (unofficial) was shared with the US delegation that detailed specific intelligence inputs, including satellite phone intercepts, interrogation statements and ground reports. “Indian expectations of a major terrorist event have increased and they are concerned that groups may have been successful in crossing into India undetected,” the leaked report reads.

Describing the substantive meetings with Indian officials, that included the Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee Admiral Sureesh Mehta, the report said that infiltrations have been taking places with larger than normal groups and that the terrorists were `heavily armed, better equipped and better trained’ than before.

“Given the numbers of infiltrators, it is "inconceivable" to the Indians that this escalation is not orchestrated by elements of the Government of Pakistan….Indian expectations of a major terrorist event have increased and they are concerned that groups may have been successful in crossing into India undetected,” it says.

The Indian paper shared with US officials said that while in 2008, the total infiltration was 57, in the first four months of 2009, 94 terrorists infiltrated into the valley and that large groups of infiltrators from “Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkare-Tayyaba and Jaish-e-Mohammad” were being pushed in.

“A group of 25 armed terrorists infiltrated from Tanagdhar area in Kupwara district, and were interdicted in two different forests Drangyari and Hafruda. The encounter lasted for 7 days, in which 18 infiltrators were killed and 8 army personnel, including 1 Major lost their lives. As none of the killed militants could be identified, it lends credence to the belief that they were Pakistani nationals,” the note said.

“The use of GPS, maps and compass indicates the high quality of military training being accorded to these terrorists. The terrorists were well prepared and carried butane gas cylinders to cut the fence, where required,” it reads.

India shared that the spurt of activities was noticed from the start of March 2009 and groups of terrorist camped up in the Haji Peer area of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. Also, that 281 terrorists were located at launching pads, waiting to cross in.

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the percentage of people who said yes are just the hopeful "minorities"


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Post by KarthikSan » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:52 pm

This so called megapoll results are being brandished around like actual election results by the BJP IT Cell boffins and by association by boor SDRE Yindoos on SM Unless the votes polled has actually been vetted and verified to be actual this data should be taken with a boat load of salt. This could just be chaff deployed by Congi pasand presstitutes to lull the BJP cadre into complacency. I hope MAD are fully tuned into these things and are in full control of the narrative.

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Post by chetak » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:33 pm

A muslim has written this article published in the caravan magazine where people like hartosh singh bal work.

the article is motivated and in extremely bad taste

the sample size is between 40-50

and this is what they mean by FOE.

these guys have actually called up the affected families and in the very hour of their grief, they have questioned them about their caste.

Can such creatures be anymore vile and depraved??


45 of our Jawans are martyred in the line of duty and all these journalists and intellectuals are concerned about is that this tragedy and India's response to it will help Modi secure another term.

Even here - EVEN HERE - these psychopaths cannot think beyond Modi. VILE.
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It takes a very twisted mind to go through the list of martyrs & find out what caste or religion they were.

What kind of political leaning, however vile, permits this? Ajaz Ashraf, you are an enemy of this nation. And so are your masters.

Shame.

Urban upper-castes driving Hindutva nationalism have little representation among Pulwama’s slain jawans
Urban upper-castes driving Hindutva nationalism have little representation among Pulwama’s slain jawans

AJAZ ASHRAF
21 February 2019

The wreath-laying ceremony of the CRPF jawans who were killed in the Pulwama attack was held in Srinagar, on 15 February 2019.
The attack in Pulwama has spawned a nationalistic fervour rarely seen since the 1999 Kargil war. In the deadliest militant attack that Kashmir has ever witnessed, 49 jawans of the Central Reserve Police Force were killed, when a suicide bomber drove a car filled with explosives into a security convoy, on the Jammu-Srinagar highway in Pulwama, on 14 February. While senior CRPF officials confirmed the deaths of 40 jawans, the media reported that at least nine others later succumbed to their injuries. The Indian government subsequently accused Pakistan of scripting the bloodshed in Pulwama. In the days since the attack, residents of metropolitan cities across India have held vociferous protest marches and news channels have been mulling possible methods of punishing Pakistan.

Underlying the feverish display of nationalism by the urban middle-class, comprised predominantly of upper-caste Indians, is an irony that few have paid attention to—the lower-caste poor account for most of the deaths. I tracked the caste background of the 40 CRPF jawans whose deaths were confirmed immediately after the attack. While the names of a few jawans revealed their respective caste identities, for those bearing caste-neutral last names, I spoke with their family members on telephone numbers registered with the CRPF. I also determined the caste identities through conversations with journalists who covered the jawans’s cremation; local politicians; social activists; sociologists; and by scanning media reports.

The 40 jawans were primarily from lower-caste communities. In all, they comprised 19 jawans from Other Backward Classes (or backward castes), seven from Scheduled Castes, five from Scheduled Tribes, four from upper-caste backgrounds, one high-caste Bengali, three Jat Sikhs, and one Muslim. So, only five out of the 40 jawans, or 12.5 percent, came from Hindu upper-caste backgrounds. This figure bears out a truism starkly visible in India at present—the Hindutva nationalism of the urban middle-class, largely spearheaded by right-wing groups, conveniently exploits the sacrifices of the downtrodden.

Two among the slain jawans, Sanjay Rajput and Nitin Shivaji Rathod, both of whom resided in Maharashtra, were from the Vimukta Jatis community, which is identified as a socially and educationally backward caste and included in the central OBC list for Maharashtra. Rajput, however, was unable to secure a caste certificate, and qualified for the CRPF through the general category. Excluding Rajput and the Muslim jawan, only eight, or 20 percent, joined the CRPF through the general-category quota.


The 40 jawans came from 16 states across India. Five of the eight in the general category were from Uttarakhand and Punjab. Of the two CRPF jawans from Uttarakhand, one was a Brahmin and the other a Rajput, and three out of the four casualties from Punjab were Jat Sikhs. The three other jawans from upper-caste communities comprised two Brahmins from Uttar Pradesh, and one Sudip Biswas from West Bengal, whose brother-in-law, Samapta Biswas, told me that his family is neither Brahmin nor Scheduled Caste, “but higher caste.”

Samapta made it a point to clarify the family’s social identity because the name “Biswas” is used by several castes. He said that he and others in the family are wage labourers based in the district of Nadia, in West Bengal. Samapta noted that the family feels compelled, at times, to migrate out of Nadia to find work, and that Sudip’s salary used to serve as comforting insulation in times of financial despair.

Maninder Singh Attri, a member of the Ramdasia sect, which is classified as a Scheduled Caste community, was the fourth jawan from Punjab who died in the Pulwama attack. His cousin, Sunil Dutt, told me that Attri’s family possesses land measuring less than one-fourth of an acre, and that the slain jawan’s younger brother also serves in the CRPF. “Dalits lacking in resources and social security opt for risky jobs such as security forces and sewer cleaning,” Dutt, a human-rights activist based in Dinanagar in Punjab’s Gurdaspur district, told me. “Isn’t it strange that those who are raising the slogan of nationalism live in comfort and their children do not have to make sacrifices for the nation?”

Dutt added that even the Jat Sikhs who opt for the security forces do so out of compulsion to earn a livelihood, because many in the community work as marginal farmers. His words were borne out in the case of Kulwinder Singh, one of the Jat Sikh jawans from Punjab who joined the forces to support his family. Singh’s father, Darshan, said the family owned less than two acres of land. “Kulwinder’s mother is in such a terrible state,” Darshan said.

While the fervour of nationalism grips the country, the families of some of the deceased soldiers feared that their sorrow and misery would soon be forgotten. Rubi Devi, the wife of Shyam Babu—one of the slain jawans from Kanpur Dehat, in Uttar Pradesh, who was a member of a Scheduled Caste community—was sniffling and choking with emotion when I spoke to her. Devi said that after a stream of visitors came to pay their respects on the first two days after the attack, her house is now desolate, and she has been left alone to endure her sorrow. When I mentioned that national leaders had promised not to forget the sacrifices of CRPF jawans, her voice turned steely as she said, “Bolne mein aur kaam karne mein bahuut antar hota hai”—There is a huge difference between saying something and doing it.

The family of Mahesh Kumar, a jawan who hailed from the Tulidhar village of Uttar Pradesh’s Prayagraj district, underwent a similar experience. Mahesh’s uncle, Sushil Kumar Yadav, told me that Anupriya Patel, the minister of state in the ministry of health and family welfare, and Rita Bahuguna, a cabinet minister in the Uttar Pradesh government, came calling on the family after the attack. Since then, however, the nation has moved on to chanting slogans on the streets. “We cannot shut them up, we only have our sorrow to drown in,” Yadav added.

Yadav said that the least the state government could do is to rename the Tudihar gram sabha after Mahesh and give a job to his younger brother, Amresh. A pugnacious Yadav noted, “If Allahabad’s name can be changed to Prayagraj, why cannot they rename our gram sabha as Mahesh gram sabha? It is the best way of keeping alive his memory. After all, don’t they say the Pulwama martyrs will not be forgotten?”

Twelve of the 40 jawans who died in Pulwama were from Uttar Pradesh, and they included two Brahmins, three from Scheduled Castes and seven from OBC communities. Sudhir Panwar, a spokesperson of the Samajwadi Party, noted, “Chest-thumping nationalism of TV studios conceals the grim reality that it is the peasant and lower castes of rural India who die to protect the country.”

Panwar’s comments are true of other states as well. Five of the CRPF jawans who died were from Rajasthan—three of them were Gujjars, one was from the Meena community, which is classified as a Scheduled Tribe, and one was a Jat. Two CRPF jawans from Tamil Nadu died in Pulwama, one of whom was a Parayar, a Scheduled Caste, and the other was a Thevar, an OBC community. The one death from Karnataka was of a Madiwala, or dhobi caste, jawan. Two jawans from Odisha died—respectively, from a backward caste and a Scheduled Caste. The pattern is overwhelmingly similar across India.

“The CRPF has reservation,” Satish Prakash, an academic and Dalit activist based in Meerut, said. “It is the reason why the people who died were overwhelmingly Bahujan.” The word “Bahujan” means majority and is used to denote individuals from non-upper and high-caste groups. “It is they who lay their lives for the nation,” Prakash said. “It exposes how bogus the argument for not extending reservation to the Armed Forces is.”

According to Paramjit Singh Judge, a professor of sociology at the Guru Nanak Dev University, in Amritsar, such Hindutva nationalism subsumes the story of caste and class because of the role it plays in politics. “Nationalism has a functional role in electoral politics,” he said. “For instance, the Bharatiya Janata Party knows that Dalits are not inclined to it. A deliberately crafted hyper nationalism helps combine people across class, caste and religion.”

The BJP has not spoken of the caste and class dimensions of those jawans who died in Pulwama. It is unlikely to do so—the party prefers to orchestrate the song of nationalism in the election year.

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Post by chetak » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:45 am

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भारत इस बार दिमाग से पाकिस्तान को कर देगा बर्बाद This time India will destroy pakistan intelligently Some home truths being spoken on paki TV



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Post by crams » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:56 am

Guys, one thing that amuses me about the libtards en-masse attacking BJP/ModiJi for harassment of Kashmir Muslims in the rest of the country post Pulwama. Of course, there are exaggerations, but the harassment is real and must stop. Now here is the kicker though. All the libtards unanimously proclaim Kashmiris as 'our people', Kashmir is an integral part of India yada yada, something they were loath to declare so boldly before. During such shows, I see their Kashmir Muslims guests squirm. Because on the one hand, they don't mind the attacks on ModiJi/BJP, and wallow in victimhood never mind their communal demands for azaadi, but on the other, they cannot come around to agree with the libtards that they are Indian, that Kashmir is integral part of India etc. So in this sense, while I am sick and tired of the self righteous moralistic cacophony, all designed to somehow find fault with BJP/ModiJi, at least the libtards are turning out to be useful idiots for India :-).

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chetak wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:33 pm
A muslim has written this article published in the caravan magazine where people like hartosh singh bal work.

the article is motivated and in extremely bad taste

these guys have actually called up the affected families and in the very hour of their grief, they have questioned them about their caste.

Can such creatures be anymore vile and depraved??

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As offensive as the above farticle is , the percentages for various castes as mentioned by the a$$eole broadly conforms to the general Indian demographics.

Plus there is the additional factor of reservations in CRPF that skews the nos in favour of lower castes.

I actually see this article as validation of Indian ethos where various regions / communities all contribute voluntarily towards nation building and national security

Far from the time when the armed forces were disproportionately made up of Sikhs and Jats , it is now more evenly distributed all across the country.

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Post by JohnTitor » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:20 am

Now vernaculars are stirring up noise about vegetable prices rising because of stopping imports from Pak.

Sick people, they don't mind funding the enemy as long as it serves them with cheap imports. And then people want to believe India will be the next superpower.

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Post by Vikas » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:04 am

Extending the same argument by AJAZ ASHRAF, Does that mean Muslims do not want to defend the nation hence not a single Muslim name in the list of martyr soldiers. Does the niggling suspicion in the mind of many people that Muslims have a skewed soft corner for Pakistan and hence aren't keen to join defense forces true.
Maybe author can throw some light on it.

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crams wrote:Guys, one thing that amuses me about the libtards en-masse attacking BJP/ModiJi for harassment of Kashmir Muslims in the rest of the country post Pulwama. Of course, there are exaggerations, but the harassment is real and must stop.
Yes, I noticed this change of stance within 48 hours after the Pulwama attack. The first 24 hours were more pro-Indian forces, but within next 24 hours the reporting style changed. And now we have reached the level of caste based break ups etc. Now on the harrasment part. Please read the report titled - "Four, including 3 Kashmiri students, arrested" . This incident happened in Bengaluru, and the Kashmiri "students" (Jehadis actually) have the audacity to attack a local student who supported the defence forces of his country. That being the case, what rights do these Kashmiris have to demand every one should behave nicely with them? "You reap what you sow". The common man is getting extremely upset with these kind of tactics of the Kashmiris, and whether MSM likes it or not there may be some actions against these Kashmiris.
All the libtards unanimously proclaim Kashmiris as 'our people', Kashmir is an integral part of India yada yada, something they were loath to declare so boldly before
Never ever trust MSM :D. Today the MSM is proclaiming Kashmiris as 'our people', in order to protect them. They know that public sentiments are against the Kashmiri free-loaders (who are the pals of MSM). So they are trying to change the perception to save the skins of the Kashmiri freeloaders. When things settle down, the MSM would again start saying they want to secceede, Kashmiriyat and other non-sense.
JohnTitor wrote:Now vernaculars are stirring up noise about vegetable prices rising because of stopping imports from Pak.
Any idea which states imports food stuff from Pakistan? What stuff do they supply which India does not produce enough? And the next whine has started that India is denying water to poor Pakistan (when actually India is actually just claiming the right %-age of its water share).

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Sachin wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:47 am
Any idea which states imports food stuff from Pakistan? What stuff do they supply which India does not produce enough? And the next whine has started that India is denying water to poor Pakistan (when actually India is actually just claiming the right %-age of its water share).
I'm not sure which states import what,but apparently KA gets some of its onions and tomatoes from there.

It's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. All this talk about nationalism and the minute something goes up in price, people squirm and want to trade again. What a joke of people these are.

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Post by Supratik » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:45 pm

Its the opposite. Prices have risen in Pak due to traders from India not supplying. It is a propaganda.

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Post by RajaRaja » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:03 pm

Vikas wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:04 am
Extending the same argument by AJAZ ASHRAF, Does that mean Muslims do not want to defend the nation hence not a single Muslim name in the list of martyr soldiers. Does the niggling suspicion in the mind of many people that Muslims have a skewed soft corner for Pakistan and hence aren't keen to join defense forces true.
Maybe author can throw some light on it.
In this list of martyrs of pulwama terror attack, the very first name is muslim.
https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... s/1489550/

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Post by RajaRaja » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:08 pm

How much effect this trade ban is having is hard to tell. The trade across LOC has apparently not been banned. Also the volume imported from Pakistan through Wagah/Atari border was quite low, about $300 mil.

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Post by Supratik » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:36 pm

Even if the volume is low it adds up to the pressure. Also Pak imports substantial cotton which is required for their textile industry which is their main export.

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Post by bharotshontan » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:47 pm

Haldiram wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:03 pm
Vikas wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:04 am
Extending the same argument by AJAZ ASHRAF, Does that mean Muslims do not want to defend the nation hence not a single Muslim name in the list of martyr soldiers. Does the niggling suspicion in the mind of many people that Muslims have a skewed soft corner for Pakistan and hence aren't keen to join defense forces true.
Maybe author can throw some light on it.
In this list of martyrs of pulwama terror attack, the very first name is muslim.
https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... s/1489550/
1 in 40. This Ajaz Ashraf idiot is actually showing every jaati in India is well represented in proportion to their population, except for Muslims because they surely are more like 1 out of 6 not 40 in the general population.

Also this man is a prick of the highest order. He says he called the grieving family of Biswas in Nadia district of West Bengal to find out about their caste. Imagine getting a cold call while you're in mourning and the prick asks "aapka jaat kya hai"

I think someone should file a police action on this guy under SC/ST harassment. This self reported behavior is atrocious to say the least

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Post by chetak » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:00 pm

Haldiram wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:08 pm
How much effect this trade ban is having is hard to tell. The trade across LOC has apparently not been banned. Also the volume imported from Pakistan through Wagah/Atari border was quite low, about $300 mil.
its the paki trade via dubai and colombo into India that is much higher and that also has been affected.

Apparently, the trade across the border with POK is still going on because as usual, the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.

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Post by hanumadu » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:14 pm

chetak wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:00 pm
Haldiram wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:08 pm
How much effect this trade ban is having is hard to tell. The trade across LOC has apparently not been banned. Also the volume imported from Pakistan through Wagah/Atari border was quite low, about $300 mil.
its the paki trade via dubai and colombo into India that is much higher and that also has been affected.

Apparently, the trade across the border with POK is still going on because as usual, the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing.
Was the trade through border banned? The duties have been increased to 200%.

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Post by Triank » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:17 am

bharotshontan wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:47 pm
Haldiram wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:03 pm
Vikas wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:04 am
Extending the same argument by AJAZ ASHRAF, Does that mean Muslims do not want to defend the nation hence not a single Muslim name in the list of martyr soldiers. Does the niggling suspicion in the mind of many people that Muslims have a skewed soft corner for Pakistan and hence aren't keen to join defense forces true.
Maybe author can throw some light on it.
In this list of martyrs of pulwama terror attack, the very first name is muslim.
https://www.financialexpress.com/india- ... s/1489550/
1 in 40. This Ajaz Ashraf idiot is actually showing every jaati in India is well represented in proportion to their population, except for Muslims because they surely are more like 1 out of 6 not 40 in the general population.

Also this man is a prick of the highest order. He says he called the grieving family of Biswas in Nadia district of West Bengal to find out about their caste. Imagine getting a cold call while you're in mourning and the prick asks "aapka jaat kya hai"

I think someone should file a police action on this guy under SC/ST harassment. This self reported behavior is atrocious to say the least
Agniveer has filed an FIR

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btw, muslim was the attacker, muslim was a victim, muslim is the vulture...muslim muslim muslim hi hain bhai, to hindu ki jaat kahaan se aayi?!

also:

libturd: thr was not one brahmin among the slain soldiers!

me: so what! the attacker was a brahmin!

libturd: say what?! brahmin?! arey bhai, he was a musl....err, (what was i gonna say! tauba tauba!)...dekhiye aisa hai, he had no religion. terrorism & terrorists have no religion..period.

(from brahmin patriarchy smashing twitter)

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Post by Triank » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:25 am

Sachin wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:47 am
crams wrote:Guys, one thing that amuses me about the libtards en-masse attacking BJP/ModiJi for harassment of Kashmir Muslims in the rest of the country post Pulwama. Of course, there are exaggerations, but the harassment is real and must stop.
Yes, I noticed this change of stance within 48 hours after the Pulwama attack. The first 24 hours were more pro-Indian forces, but within next 24 hours the reporting style changed. And now we have reached the level of caste based break ups etc. Now on the harrasment part. Please read the report titled - "Four, including 3 Kashmiri students, arrested" . This incident happened in Bengaluru, and the Kashmiri "students" (Jehadis actually) have the audacity to attack a local student who supported the defence forces of his country. That being the case, what rights do these Kashmiris have to demand every one should behave nicely with them? "You reap what you sow". The common man is getting extremely upset with these kind of tactics of the Kashmiris, and whether MSM likes it or not there may be some actions against these Kashmiris.
All the libtards unanimously proclaim Kashmiris as 'our people', Kashmir is an integral part of India yada yada, something they were loath to declare so boldly before
Never ever trust MSM :D. Today the MSM is proclaiming Kashmiris as 'our people', in order to protect them. They know that public sentiments are against the Kashmiri free-loaders (who are the pals of MSM). So they are trying to change the perception to save the skins of the Kashmiri freeloaders. When things settle down, the MSM would again start saying they want to secceede, Kashmiriyat and other non-sense.
JohnTitor wrote:Now vernaculars are stirring up noise about vegetable prices rising because of stopping imports from Pak.
Any idea which states imports food stuff from Pakistan? What stuff do they supply which India does not produce enough? And the next whine has started that India is denying water to poor Pakistan (when actually India is actually just claiming the right %-age of its water share).
@sachin ji, did you happen to watch the video of the thrashing of kashmiri 'students' from a yavatmal (maharashtra) college by yuva sena members (nanhi Shivsena)? felt a bit sorry for the sods :mrgreen:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Sachin » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:48 am

Triank wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:25 am
@sachin ji, did you happen to watch the video of the thrashing of kashmiri 'students' from a yavatmal (maharashtra) college by yuva sena members (nanhi Shivsena)? felt a bit sorry for the sods :mrgreen:
Nope. Would be obliged if a video link can be shared. I did see a Paki-lover getting slapped around in a barber shop. Apparently he had abused the soldiers. But don't know if the event was after Pulwama, or some time before.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:46 am

From the net.

This is floating around.



FACTS ABOUT KASHMIR TERRORISM.


State of J&K Under India ( Area wise 101380 sq Km) Excluding POK.

Kashmir : 15%
Jammu : 26%
Ladakh : 59%

85,000 sq Km comprising 85% area are not Muslim Majority.

Population - 1.25 Crores

Kashmir : 69 Lakhs. (Only 55 Lakhs speak Kashmiri. Rest 13 lakhs speak Non kashmiri languages.)

Jammu : 53 Lakhs.
(Dogri, Punjabi, Hindi)

Ladakh : 03 Lakhs. (Ladakhi language)

This does not include 7.5 lakh people settled who do not have citizenship.

There are 22 districts in J&K. Out of which only 5 Districts where separatists have the say ;
Srinagar, Anantnag, Baramullah, Kulgam and Pulwama.

Other 17 districts are Pro India.
So separatist's writ runs in just 15% of the population which are Sunni Muslim dominated.

Interestingly these 5 districts are far away from Pakistan Border/LOC.

There are more than fourteen major Religious/ ethinic groups comprising 85% of the population of J&K who are Pro India.

These include:

Shias ;

Dogras: (Rajputs, Brahmins & Mahajans);

Kashmiri Pandits;

Sikhs;

Buddhists ( Ladakhis );

Gujjars;

Bakarwals;

Paharis;

Baltis;

Christians & many more.

Majority of the people in J&K do not speak Kashmiri as their mother tongue. It's Dogri, Gujjari, Punjabi, Ladhaki , Pahari etc.

Only 33 % people in Kashmir speak Kashmiri & this group controls narrative from Hurriyat to militants and from NC and PDP.

This 33% controls business, bureaucracy & agriculture. This sunni 33% is opposed to India although population of all other muslims in JK is 69 %.

Shias (12%), Gujjars Muslims (14%), Pahadi Muslims ( 8%), Buddhists , Pandits, Sufis, Christians and Jammu Hindus/ Dogras ( aprox 45%) are totally opposed to separatism and Pakistan.

Stone pelting , Hoisting of Pakistani flags & Anti India demonstrations are held in just 5 Districts in Kashmir valley.

Other 17 districts have never participated in such activities.

Poonch and Kargil have above 90% Muslim population. There has never been an Anti India or separatist protest in these districts.

It is only the Anti National Media and other Anti India forces who with their own nefarious designs have created an impression that "WHOLE J&K" is against India.

Whereas the truth is that just 15% of the Population comprising Sunni Muslims inhabiting 5 Districts of Kashmir province are fanning the separatist activities.
And it is this sunni lot that consumes a majority of the GoI resources and has a larger than required number of seats to wield disproportionate political power. Is it any surprise that the two prominent political families in cashmeri politics, as well as the hurrityat lot, are all sunni??

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:36 am

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India has never had a better opportunity to fix Kashmir. Rather than continue to pander to a specious, invalid grouse, it now must:


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