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Post by vishvak » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:02 am


Vikas wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:29 am
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PS: Why can't TN politicians also blame EI and WI on this language issue. What is this special "love affair" with NI :)
Will it take another pukistein in any other name to know what's it about?

Naarth vs saaooth is what powers that be (international networks called religion/communism/blah-blah-what-the-fk-ever) is planned so that local selected satraps (counts/knights/kings vs emirs/gazis/soolteins and all such psycho characters as representatives of EU+America vs Araps) to buy weapons for plunder of hindoo; prolly on lines of South vs North Korea where there is no peace at border but just armistice ie cessation of warfare.

Wonder why we ignore problems at beginning and expect a different outcome later. Our biggest mistake is that we tiptoe around power politics after not stating clearly that these (bloodthirsty?) networks are made for power grab and should have been demolished at independence.

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Post by tajmahal321 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:33 am

GOI quickly acted to avoid more controversy, released a new draft NEP

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 641151.cms

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Post by Muns » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:14 am

crams wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:25 am
Muns, great insight. But lets not lose sight of a couple of issues at play here:

1. Every one of the f!king jokers from that Stalin puke to Thackaray in Maharashtra know that this was just a draft and there was nothing about Hindi imposition.

2. The issue the draft highlighted is that colonial facets still prevail in our education, and regional and vernacular languages ought to be propped. This should have been the discussion point.

3. Stalin fascist drunk in his sweeping victory wanted to seize the headlines and made this a Hindi imposition issue when there was nothing of the sort.

4. How ironic that a bloody anti-Brahmin, anti-Hindi, anti-North Indian break India scum bag like Stalin has the audacity to talk about 'pluralism', 'secularism' and such. And those Lutyen gangsters who pounce on BJP at the slightest perceived mis-step don't have the guts to call Stalin out on his and his party's bigotry.

5. And the dead give away by Stalin is his effusive slavery towards Italian Madam "annai" Sonia and his genuflecting before Pappu. I can bet you, Stalin will have no problem with Italian being taught in TN. His hatred is only towards Hindi and anything non Dravidian in India.
All it takes is really one person helps to try make the difference in Tamil Nadu. I was really banking on Rajnikanth and the recent indications are to go by, he seems to be really close potential ally over the next few years for the BJP and Modi. Apparently he was never going to contest the Lok Sabha elections but will gear for assembly elections in 2021. Hopefully he will carry the saffron flag back into Tamil Nadu. Reminds me also of what Kamal Hassan said "my color is not safron". Turns out to be another variation of green it seems.
In any case, I think even Stalins days that number if Rajnikanth enters the fray. Perhaps he can be the spark to burn the mountain of ignorance that has pervaded throughout Tamil Nadu over the last 70 years.

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Post by Muns » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:17 am

Just as a reminder, I sought to rub a little bit of salt into the wounds of these opposition parties by highlighting some of their quotes prior to elections. I think most of them have gone on a hiatus for at least a month.
No doubt that they needed it. Hard to come back from a backslap like that. It is somewhat of a quick article though, really just to highlight some of these quotes.

A Self-imposed hiatus in defeat for India’s opposition?

https://www.india-aware.com/opinion/a-s ... pposition/

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Post by ArjunPandit » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:56 am

crams wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:44 pm
Guys, my thoughts on this proposal to have Hindi as third language in schools up to grade 8. As expected, the TN Dravidian politicians seem to have gone berserk at least on Twitter. While I don't have a problem with Hindi per se, but ModiJi should tread very carefully on this. I can easily see BIF using the hysteria of many Tamils towards Hindi to inflame separatist passions. The center should shelve this proposal.
I believe, there should be push for dravidian languages in north India too. Just calling people madrasi wont fly anymore. People anyways pick up punjabi and bhojpuri etc....but this divide if let to fester will bit us badly....

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Post by crams » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:28 pm

ArjunPandit wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:56 am

I believe, there should be push for dravidian languages in north India too. Just calling people madrasi wont fly anymore. People anyways pick up punjabi and bhojpuri etc....but this divide if let to fester will bit us badly....
Agreed, no imposition, no 'madrasi' BS anymore. However, in this case, there was absolutely no imposition. And Dravidian fake opposition to this imaginary imposition has more to do with politics and hatred of non Dravidians and BJP and ModiJi.

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Post by tajmahal321 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:42 am

Population decrease in south india will cause more migration from north india, and they will naturally will start learning to speak south indian languages. Instead of any govt push, this will be natural way for learning other languages and more integration.

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Post by ArjunPandit » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:03 pm

^^theoreticall yes, but how many northies (i consider myself as one) you see speaking fluent kannada? most dont move beyond tamil tiryadi ..or kannada gotilla, hengideera, yeshtu madi...

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Post by Sachin » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:38 am

ArjunPandit wrote:I believe, there should be push for dravidian languages in north India too. Just calling people madrasi wont fly anymore. People anyways pick up punjabi and bhojpuri etc....but this divide if let to fester will bit us badly....
This was the plan from day one. But it did not work out. The northern states ignored the clause about teaching a south Indian language. I can understand; they too would tell that "why should a Punjabi learn Tamil, since he would never go to TN for work anyways" ;). Where as Hindi Prachaar Sabhas exist in every part of India, similar Sabhas don't exist for any other language. So in this case, it would be better to keep the official languages formula for official communications, while not forcing any language on people.
theoreticall yes, but how many northies (i consider myself as one) you see speaking fluent kannada? most dont move beyond tamil tiryadi ..or kannada gotilla, hengideera, yeshtu madi...
:D. Even I am not from KA, but have graduated from the Kannada gothilla level now. From what I have observed is that people in KA likes if a person tries to communicate to them in Kannada. And then you can switch to any other language which both are conversant in. Problem starts when Kannada gothilla is said with a pride ;). This becomes a bigger problem in case of migrant labour etc, where first of all the local low-income people find as a threat to their jobs, and secondly the same group also does not wish to assimilate with the locals.

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Post by ArjunPandit » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:28 am

very interesting points sir. The point can't be reduced to whwether we are gonna work there or not. The point is that that we as a nation have to become more integrated and language has to be part of it. Same north indian parents have no problmes letting their kids pick up french or spanish or even german and now chinese but they have a problem in learning our own language.There are two ways to end it
1. which is what to learn the new language
2. to use a google translator headphones which should be available in mid of next decade

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Post by chetak » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:06 pm

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Post by tajmahal321 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:01 am

Can someone tell me what happened in Kashmir for terrorism to come back after 2014? I tried googling but couldn't find any answer. did the GOI tried to do anything that backfired?

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Post by ArjunPandit » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:49 pm

tajmahal321 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:01 am
Can someone tell me what happened in Kashmir for terrorism to come back after 2014? I tried googling but couldn't find any answer. did the GOI tried to do anything that backfired?
not in chronological order but key multiple factors/events domestic and international that led to increased spurt of terror
1. GoI change to pakis testing indian resolve
2. Teenager killed towards year end
3. Floods and corruption of Omar abdullah govt and their ineptness in handling floods
4. BJP/PDP govt in election
5. members of Burhan wani gang hunted one after another with burhan wani getting 72 in 2016. Burhan was successful in convincing that 72 is a good option.
6. Pellet guns use
7. Pakistan had to keep terrorists busy. Attack on Indian mainland would have invoked the wrath of Modi/Doval. I think they tried it too but failed, esp with Gujarat and there were terrorist attacks in Gurajat boat incident, Punjab, pathankot but not on civilian targets. So J&K was natural target.
8. They found stone pelting by locals (funded by pakis) along with intolerance and muslim oppression by a Hindu India a convenient narrative to peddle with the help of evil rana ayyub, burkha dutt and her likes. Remeber NDTV was a thriving (shell company) business back then
9. No one expected Modi to take foreign policy head on, esp with him not getting US visa so they want to strangulate on intenrational front including pakistan, which had a domestic bearing. May be they thought he'll be a patsie and a one time affair.

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Post by tajmahal321 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:06 am

Thanks for the info. I believe Gil's hardline tactics in Punjab against Khalistan terrorist and Sri Lankan govt's hardline tactics against LTTE are the successful operations against terrorist operations that needs to used in Kashmir. Half measures results only in bleeding wound.

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Post by tajmahal321 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:22 am

The IT officer who fought against NDTV and PC is forced to retire. What an irony!
good start of the current FM.
https://twitter.com/sgurumurthy/status/ ... 9159840768

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Post by ArjunPandit » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:49 pm

tajmahal321 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:06 am
Thanks for the info. I believe Gil's hardline tactics in Punjab against Khalistan terrorist and Sri Lankan govt's hardline tactics against LTTE are the successful operations against terrorist operations that needs to used in Kashmir. Half measures results only in bleeding wound.
easier said than done...for the following reasons
1. Punjab border was closed almost fully by the border fence. There's no way J&K border can be completely choked
2. I have heard, not sure of it, but the surge in terror was also due to drought in that region. When economic conditions improved the tide also stemmed
3. The main populace was still connected to main India, they had close ties, unlike kashmiri Ms.
4. Sikhs for all their aggression are the nicest and helping people I have come across who believe in peace, prosperity in real sense. Yes there are bad apples, but those too were creation of IG for her political ambitions. J&K it is different game. We all know what Kashmiri muslims want

FYR, terror in kashmir was dealt in a very tough manner. I've heard stories of Papa2 from someone who was in thick of things then and would occasionally divulge interesting tidbits over a long game of chess to distract me. People were dealt in tough manner. The main problem is support of a small population was unflinching and different stakeholders had different objectives. People were not willing to solve the problem politically.

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Post by Aditya_V » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:05 am

When Pakistan becomes a failed state , this love for Pakistan will come down.

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Post by ArjunPandit » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:19 pm

Aditya_V wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:05 am
When Pakistan becomes a failed state , this love for Pakistan will come down.
by all standards, it already has...the thing with M's is that they need more I all the time. The same thing with pakis.

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Post by vishvak » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:57 pm

I think our way of diplomatic thinking should be about how to get monetory compensation or not - against terrorism (as punishment and for record) - example Chinese are wildly biting away at paki resources while the world has to give and give more monies for failing economic projects and military cooperation.

If yes then how to go about it and stop the incoming help to pakis in some ways while denuding supporters of pakis - example chinese on half pig sadeed. If no then keep pushing for real solution to paki problem while reducing threats and long term interests etc.

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Post by Aditya_V » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:19 pm

tajmahal321 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:01 am
Can someone tell me what happened in Kashmir for terrorism to come back after 2014? I tried googling but couldn't find any answer. did the GOI tried to do anything that backfired?
Terror was very much there in Kashmir before 2014. There was never a let up. In fact MMS as PM could not visit the valley since 2010 onwards. Mainstream media just wanted to report this as a failure of Modi.

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Post by tajmahal321 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:44 pm

could be..i remember seeing photos of friends visiting as tourist and telling tourism is back
Aditya_V wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:19 pm
Terror was very much there in Kashmir before 2014. There was never a let up. In fact MMS as PM could not visit the valley since 2010 onwards. Mainstream media just wanted to report this as a failure of Modi.

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Post by Aditya_V » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:02 pm

Even now tourists visit, in fact the number on incidents barring Anantnag is down Terrorists are now being smoked from thier hideouts.

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Post by chetak » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:17 pm

no wonder the congis were barking like stray dogs as the counting day grew closer.

It was all a congi ponzi scheme that was swallowed hook, line and sinker by the owners of the congi party and their servile minions.

even the lootyens liberandus and the hostile godi, as well as the foreign press, fell for it.

I wonder what exactly was the role of pappu's shady havard professors and the cambridge analytica types who must have insisted and taken their payments in advance.

and the great lovey dovey, all sacrificing sister seems to have a very well developed sense of self preservation and the sense to rereat just to fight another day when she will seek to replace pappu as the one and only fearless leader.

isn't this how all canabalistic mafia familias work


Rahul’s own team fed his PM hopes right up to poll defeat




Rahul’s own team fed his PM hopes right up to poll defeat

Pankaj Vohra

June 15, 2019,

The events during the run-up to the counting revealed that either Rahul Gandhi was of an over-trusting nature or was too gullible in perceiving how smooth-talking individuals were leading him up the garden path.



New Delhi: There has been intense speculation regarding the reasons that forced Rahul Gandhi to resign as the Congress president, the foremost being that he was misled by his own team, and made to believe that his party was securing between 164 and 184 seats in the recent Parliamentary elections. Based on this inaccurate information, he is understood to have contacted UPA allies such as M.K. Stalin, Akhilesh Yadav, Omar Abdullah, Sharad Pawar and Tejashwi Yadav amongst others, and offered to accommodate some of them in the next Cabinet.

He is reported to have even obtained two letters from a senior legal eagle to enable him to stake claim to form the next government. A victory procession was also planned to celebrate the exit of the BJP, which of course did not happen, though instructions to a select few Delhi leaders were passed on to mobilise and assemble a crowd of nearly 10,000 people outside the AICC office on 24, Akbar Road. Given that the assessment of the Congress party went completely askew, resulting in a huge loss of face, Rahul had no option but to put in his papers. Currently, he is in England and is expected to be back early next week in time for both the commencement of the Parliament session as also his birthday on 19 June.

To make matters worse, Praveen Chakravarty, who was his most trusted aide, looking after the election office and data-analysis, besides running the Shakti app, is missing from the scene. A day after the election results were announced he has been incommunicado and efforts by senior leaders to contact him have failed miserably. Incidentally, he had not even provided the Congress with the hard disc of the data he had collected, for which he is alleged to have presented a bill of Rs 24 crore. Senior leaders in the party are suspecting that Chakravarty, who played a role similar to the one played by Prashant Kishor for Narendra Modi in the 2014 Parliamentary elections, could have been a BJP mole in the Congress office.

In fact, four of the eight persons working in the Congress president’s office have resigned. In addition to Chakravarty, Divya Spandana, who, her detractors claim, charged the party nearly Rs 8 crore, is also untraceable; she has also deleted her Twitter and Instagram accounts. The events during the run-up to the counting have revealed that either Rahul Gandhi was of an over-trusting nature or was too gullible in perceiving how smooth-talking individuals were leading him up the garden path. It is not only he alone, but both Sonia Gandhi and Priyanka Gandhi Vadra too appeared convinced that the Congress was returning to power, raising questions whether the family was living in some sort of a la-la land.

Informed sources stated that Chakravarty had met Rahul on 21 May, on the day of Rajiv Gandhi’s death anniversary, and had given him a list of 184 potential winners of the Congress, along with their respective constituencies and projected margins. Rahul was told that 184 was the number, but if things turned out to be slightly inadequate, it, in any case, would not be less than 164. The data was double-checked by the Congress president’s office, and Rahul asked his office to make a list of nearly “100 first-time MPs”, who he was not familiar with, since they had worked at the state level. He further instructed for a separate list of likely losers to be drafted out as well. The second list included prominent leaders such as Mallikarjun Kharge, Pawan Bansal, Harish Rawat, Ajay Maken etc., whom he wanted to be part of the next government.

A day before the counting of votes, and buoyed by the documentation supplied by Chakravarty, Rahul and Priyanka got to work. The two started contacting potential allies and key leaders of their own party. Rahul is reported to have phoned M.K. Stalin and conveyed to him his desire to induct him in the future Cabinet as Home Minister. Sharad Pawar was requested to be a part of the dispensation, since his presence would provide gravitas. Akhilesh Yadav was also offered an important berth, after being asked how many seats the Mahagathbandhan was winning in Uttar Pradesh. Akhilesh Yadav put the figure at 40-plus and asked for Congress numbers in the state, appearing amused when conveyed that the party was winning nine, which included Rae Bareli and Amethi, besides Kanpur, Unnao, Fatehpuri Sikri, etc. Tejashwi Yadav’s assessment was that the Congress could touch the five- to six-mark in Bihar, while his party would be obtaining nearly 20-plus. Omar Abdullah was confident that the National Conference could win three, while Congress may go through in Udhampur, from where Dr Karan Singh’s son, Vikramaditya was contesting.

At the same time, Priyanka, who had an early dinner with Rahul at a South Indian restaurant in Chanakyapuri, was doing her bit. She rang up Congress Chief Ministers and asked them to send the list of potential ministers from their respective states. It could not be ascertained if the CMs actually sent in names or were taken aback by this call.

Two close advisers to Rahul, including a former Union Minister and his personal secretary K. Raju went to the residence of a well-known senior attorney in South Delhi to get two drafts prepared for the President of India. One draft was specific to the Congress staking claim directly and the second one was formulated to support any of the UPA allies. The two letters were delivered at the Congress president’s office.

So certain and assured were the Gandhis of victory that a press conference on the day of counting was also planned, following which a victory march was to take place outside the Congress headquarters. Everything went off-centre when the results started pouring in.

Sources said that the reason for Rahul and Priyanka criticising the Chief Ministers at the Congress Working Committee meeting a couple of weeks ago was because they were misled by some of them. Earlier, Rajasthan Chief Minister Ashok Gehlot had stated that the Congress could possibly win between 14 and 16 out of 25 from his state, but the winners may not include his son. The Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister, Kamal Nath, presented his figure to around 11 to 15 out of 29. It was only Chhattisgarh Chief Minister Bhupesh Baghel, who divulged the ground reality and said that the Congress would win only three or four seats. He was complimented for his modest assessment and told that the figure would be 8. AICC treasurer, Ahmed Patel, was asked for his estimation regarding Gujarat, and is understood to have conveyed to Rahul that the Congress was unlikely to win any seat from there, a matter which displeased the Congress president.

The entire edifice of the proposed government formation was built on inaccurate evaluation, which has been a brutal blow to the Congress president. Rahul was so sure of success in both the constituencies he was contesting from—Amethi and Wayanad—that he asked Priyanka to contest from Amethi, once he vacated the seat. On her part, Priyanka has been admonishing workers, and telling UP leaders that they should “now prepare only for 2029 elections” given that they had let the party grievously down.

According to reliable sources, Priyanka withdrew herself at the eleventh hour from a possible fight from Varanasi, thereby upsetting Rahul’s overall poll plans for UP. She and her husband, Robert Vadra, communicated to Rahul that beginning her political career with a loss in her kitty would not warrant well. When Rahul insisted, she asked him to contest from the seat instead. Earlier, Shatrughna Sinha had offered to contest from Varanasi against the Prime Minister, and had claimed that he had been assured of a Rajya Sabha berth in case he was defeated from the holy city; he was asked to return to Patna Saheb, from where he was reluctant to fight, given that it was a strong traditional BJP seat.

It is perceptible that the Gandhis feel misled and even in some cases betrayed by people whom they banked on. Therefore, it is most unlikely that Rahul will cave in to pressure and withdraw his resignation. Now that his Prime Ministerial hopes have been dashed, Rahul seems to be adamant that he will leave leadership of the battle against Narendra Modi and BJP to someone else

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Post by Muns » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:58 am

Okay guys, need to try and really figure out what is going on here. Of course all of the news media is really focused on the story of 'another lynching'. Police are now claiming that this is been doctored video, and that the video and sound are not really adding up. When they may have been some weaknesses that corroborated the chants of Jai Shri Ram, many other witnesses state that they tried to help him and turn them over to the police. Apparently, he was also not badly beaten as well. Is this another case of Police heavy handedness?

Police cast doubt on Tabrez video, villager speaks of 'Jai Shri Ram' chant

https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/po ... id/1693131
At Dhatkidih village, 35km from Jamshedpur, where Tabrez was beaten up in the early hours of June 19, a government health worker who lives 20 metres from the spot where the young man was thrashed said he had been caught red-handed while trying to commit theft.

“I was not present at the spot but my sister-in-law Maya Mahali told me that some of the villagers were forcing the thief to utter ‘Jai Shri Ram’ while hitting him with branches of a tree,” Mamta Devi told this newspaper on Monday at Dhatkidih, where the men have fled fearing arrests.

Mamta said the beating was not so brutal that it would have caused death.

“It is a fact that Tabrez died at the hospital four days after he was thrashed by people at Dhatkidih, but the thrashing was not so intense that he would have died of it. Yes, the villagers were angry with the victim as he was caught while trying to commit theft, but there also were people who stopped others from taking the law into their hands.”

Mamta said her sister-in-law Maya, who is a ward member of the Seraikela Notified Area Committee, was standing guard and had stopped one of the villagers hitting Tabrez with the branch of a tree.

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Post by Muns » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:46 am

Well it seems that this turned out to be a actual mob lynching then. PM Modi has accepted it in Rajya Sabha that the incident pained him but shouldn't seen as representative of the entire state. Before you can blink it is been picked up by most major news agencies around the world. Unfortunately it seems not the evidence that it might've been a doctored video could hold much sway. I guess with Modi accepting it, it probably wasn't. From Indian express article below, the autopsy report showed evidence of intracranial hemorrhage and hence he died after a couple of days.
When I really condemn the death, why such outcry for Dhruv Tyagi, butchered with a knife like a animal on the streets of Delhi? In any case, it is more fodder for the opposition.

Jharkhand lynching pained me: Prime Minister

https://www.india-aware.com/featured/jh ... -minister/

Jharkhand assault victim had head injury, went undetected: Post-mortem team

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... k-5799935/
“There was an injury on the right frontoparietal region, which was left undetected by the doctor at the Sadar Hospital who was on night shift and treated Ansari (who was brought in at 7 am on June 18 after the attack). There is a possibility that this led to effusion or oozing of blood from the skull leading to haemorrhage. This could be a possible cause of death,” said Dr Bariyal Mari, Deputy Superintendent, Sadar Hospital.

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