The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by ricky » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:40 pm

Something weird is going on with our masses, I live in a smallish city and within a 2 km radius, i have thus far encountered 3 different gatherings/mobile torch marches/ sloganeering of pakistan murdabad. This was not the situation even after mumbai, why the bloodlust of the punters is up is not the question, the fact is our people are getting a stabby mentality. Lets see how long it lasts.

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Post by crams » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:58 pm

Guys, I maybe wrong, but has anybody seen any editorials or op-eds in US rags like NYT or WP, official mouthpieces of US when it comes to foreign policy? Reason I ask is usually, in the aftermath of their TSP munna''s grizly terror attack on India like Pulwama, there will be editorial pieces with inputs from CIA/Pentagon, along with some deracinated Uncle Tom Indian puke hired guns like Burka Bibi or Pankaj Misra, issuing some bogus cursory condemnation of terror in the abstract, at the same time blaming India for 'heavy handedness' in Kashmir, and above all on why India needs to show 'restraint', and last but not the least, asking both of its munnas, India and TSP, to make p!ss and gora bahadurs will use their good offices to mediate.

This time there seems to be none, which leads me to conclude that all of ModiJi's talk is only impotent rage like ours, and other than issuing dosas highlighting TSP's culpability, some token steps like MFN revocation and removal of security cover for the Harried rats etc; no military action is imminent. If there was something, CIA's peeping toys and toms would have got hold of the plan by now. Not that I am advocating any hast military maneuver, but only hoping we won't be back to business as usual in a few days time.

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Post by KJo » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:49 pm

crams wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:07 pm
Kjo, help me with this site. I clicked 'donate to corpus fund' and it asked me for phone #. I gave my US cell#, it sent a text with a code, I entered that and then it asked how much contribution in Indian Rs. When I entered that amount, I thought it will take me to enter a CC# or paypal. But instead it asked for PAN# which I don't have. How do us folks from outside India donate?

Sorry cram, I have not tried it yet, but sad to see everyone's experience with it.
This just reveals how awful our Indian IT industry really is. They make things as hard as possible for the end user. Proves all my rants against TCS/INFY and other useless companies to be 400% true. :roll:

The mass-based IT industry that we have is based on high volume and low quality. Those days are over. We are seeing it now and I hope it continues that we see a shake-out and a slimmer high quality IT industry emerges.

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Post by chetak » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:29 pm

ricky wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:40 pm
Something weird is going on with our masses, I live in a smallish city and within a 2 km radius, i have thus far encountered 3 different gatherings/mobile torch marches/ sloganeering of pakistan murdabad. This was not the situation even after mumbai, why the bloodlust of the punters is up is not the question, the fact is our people are getting a stabby mentality. Lets see how long it lasts.
The humongous public reactions of the aam janta to the funerals of these slain CRPF soldiers is scaring the crap out of the opposition.

The soldiers could have been cremated in cashmere with full military honours but they have been taken to their homes. No one would have said anything had they been cremated in cashmere itself because of the extensively damaged bodies after the blast.

The real fear of all the parties is that Modi could well prepone the elections and sink all their ships without firing even a single salvo.

I really wish that Modi calls early elections.

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Post by chetak » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:31 pm

some light into events past.

the stories one could tell, no??

this guy is identified with the khujliwal's aampaapi party and he stood for elections too.

he could really wind up with a rocket up his nether regions




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Post by chetak » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:26 pm

This is the exemplary organization that was attacked in cashmere.

This is the twitter message that they have put out after the attack.


CRPF Madadgaar @CRPFmadadgaar

#Kashmiri students and general public, presently out of #kashmir can contact @CRPFmadadgaar on 24x7 toll free number 14411 or SMS us at 7082814411 for speedy assistance in case they face any difficulties/harrasment. @crpfindia @HMOIndia @JKZONECRPF @jammusector @crpf_srinagar

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Post by srikumar » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:29 pm

KJo wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:49 pm
crams wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:07 pm
Kjo, help me with this site. I clicked 'donate to corpus fund' and it asked me for phone #. I gave my US cell#, it sent a text with a code, I entered that and then it asked how much contribution in Indian Rs. When I entered that amount, I thought it will take me to enter a CC# or paypal. But instead it asked for PAN# which I don't have. How do us folks from outside India donate?
Sorry cram, I have not tried it yet, but sad to see everyone's experience with it.
This just reveals how awful our Indian IT industry really is. They make things as hard as possible for the end user. Proves all my rants against TCS/INFY and other useless companies to be 400% true. :roll:

The mass-based IT industry that we have is based on high volume and low quality. Those days are over. We are seeing it now and I hope it continues that we see a shake-out and a slimmer high quality IT industry emerges.
...you are moderator, now... maan. Give this 'desi IT sucks' theme a break, man. Or atleast post better examples (your 1:00 a.m. call with the IT wala who finally asked you 'which buttons to push saar' is a sterling one). Surprising to see it in this post.

I did not access the website but the stuff posted by crams seems more due to what the customer (GOI, in this case) would have asked the IT waala to do. I can see why GOI would not want to accept credit cards ( many, if not all of them, including paypal charge a percentage). THat is GOI's prerogative if they want the PAN # and not want to accept credit cards. If the GUI (not GOI) sucks or the website is slow/crashes, sure you can blame it on the IT herd..and you'll have no quibble from me.

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Post by KJo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:51 am

Point noted, and I agree that this is the wrong place, but when Akshay Kumar goes around talking about something like this which is of national importance, we cannot afford to lay an egg again. Looks like we have.
I myself sent this website to many people and I am sure many others have.

This website seems like a government site as it has a gov.in in the URL, and it fails like this makes this relevant to everyone. Who is responsible? Well I say both GoI and the company that created it. What good is a site if it doesn't do it's job?

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Post by JohnTitor » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:18 am

Most government websites are rubbish. There's no fixing that until the government itself tries to better serve people. The current websites aim to just dump everything in one place without considering aesthetics or user experience.

Anyway.. crams is right.. Modi doesn't look like he's serious about attacking. The best part is that no matter what military operation he had chosen, public would back him. Would have boosted his election prospects too.

I hope he does it. The lack of attacks in the last 5 years has made this stand out, and Modi made that happen. So nothing wrong if he uses it.

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Post by Kabir » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:13 am

In the future Modi would be a bigger victim of incumbency than MMS in spite of all the scams and Pak pasand things that happened under UPA rule v/s the great improvements Modi brought in. This is simply because our nation has a history of turning against her own heroes in no time. Modi's policy and action against Pak should not be tactical but long drawn and strategic with multiple tactical goals over a longer period. It does not matter how long the punishment is belted for as long as the end result of completely dismantling Pak is achieved. Modi has to keep the electorate at the back of his mind probably more than any other past Indian leader, which is why it would be a necessity to keep showcasing to people the actions on Pak every few months with the necessary KO punches at regular intervals.

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Post by chetak » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:01 am

Another point of view.

The destruction of the TSD was, however, a serious body blow for the Indian Army

Deeply vested interests have played a very dirty role in this wilful degradation of our intelligence assets, information gathering effectiveness, covert strike and retaliatory capabilities.




TSD could have prevented Pulwama massacre if not sabotaged


TSD could have prevented Pulwama massacre if not sabotaged

Abhinandan Mishra
February 16, 2019,

New Delhi: Media reports alleging that two highly sophisticated “off-air interceptors” were being used to monitor the conversation of ministers and other senior UPA government functionaries in South Block and North Block, sounded the death knell of the Technical Support Division (TSD). As this newspaper reported earlier, TSD was a tiny specialised unit of the Indian Army and was formed in May 2010 after General V.K. Singh became the Chief of Army Staff. The TSD was painted as a rogue unit by these media reports, which led to its disbanding in May 2012. The TSD had carried out several operations that prevented 26/11 Mumbai-type attacks from taking place. The TSD was exactly the sort of highly specialised intelligence unit needed to pre-empt Pulwama type clandestine terrorist preparations. Its sabotage by vested interests has led to a critical gap in military intelligence capability, say defence experts.

The media reports, quoting Army “sources”, terrorised the political dispensation of the time by claiming that the TSD was using these interceptors to spy on the phone calls of even the Defence Minister. But there was a “slight” problem to such claims—the military does not have any record whatsoever of the purchase of these interceptors. And this when the record books of the military log in even the purchase of the boots of a soldier in multiple places. The existence of these interceptors was also not mentioned by the Army when it carried out court-martial proceedings of one of the officers who was a part of the TSD.

“The interceptors and the rogue nature of their work existed only in media reports. The Army, even during its internal proceedings which were started post May 2012, never mentioned anything about the existence of any such interceptors,” a government official told The Sunday Guardian.

“Imagine a Defence Minister reading in newspapers that an Army unit was intercepting his calls and that the same unit was also trying to topple a state government. And when the Defence Minister goes to the Army Chief (not General V.K. Singh) to seek answers, the Army Chief too says that this unit is a ‘rogue’. What would the Defence Minister do? He will not interfere when the unit is shut down. And that is what happened with the TSD,” a senior government source told The Sunday Guardian.

Highly placed sources said that the formation of TSD was approved, in writing, by the then Defence Minister, A.K. Antony when he signed the operational directive to develop covert capability of the Indian Army so that it could take pre-emptive and retaliatory action against terrorist groups.

“It was a covert unit, not a clandestine unit dealing primarily in humint (human intelligence). A clandestine unit carries out the operation and claims the success or the failure of the operation. A covert unit does not exist in the eyes of the public. It neither claims its success nor its failure. TSD was a covert unit. It cannot claim that two high ranking terror group leaders were picked up and brought to India by the TSD, nor how this unit was very close to taking out a head of a terrorist group who has brought innumerable sufferings to the country by way of terrorist strikes and killing of Army soldiers,” a senior Army officer stated. Even Pakistan’s own covert units, including Lashkar-e-Tayyaba had raised the “issue” of TSD in multiple circles.

Sources who are aware of the matter said that TSD was mandated to target high ranking terrorists by penetrating deep into the enemy territory, carrying out psychological warfare, both internally and externally and pre-empting terror strikes by whatever means necessary. “No Army Chief, traditionally wants to have a unit like TSD under him since it has never been done before. V.K. Singh, however, when he became the chief, decided to go with it. Now, I don’t think any Army Chief will ever raise any such unit because of the baseless controversies that were stuck to it,” another senior Army officer said.

According to officers, the TSD successfully managed to thwart the supply of arms and ammunition that the Naxals in Chhattisgarh and Andhra Pradesh were getting from Northeast based insurgents.

“Such arms supply to the Naxals via this route had virtually dried up when the TSD was there, as TSD officers were very ‘strong’ and active in the Northeast. Once the TSD was disbanded, Naxals started getting the weapons again, and in May 2013 the Naxals killed almost the entire leadership of the Chhattisgarh unit of the Congress by using the weapons that they had received from Northeast based insurgent groups. One can ask a hypothetical question: would the Congress leaders in Chhattisgarh have survived if the TSD was there? The answer is not that difficult to guess,” stated the officer.

Another senior Army officer, who is aware of the details regarding the TSD, said that fictitious reports were leaked from Army Headquarters regarding the “rogue” nature of the TSD to the media.

“Media carried reports that the TSD had paid money to an MLA in the state of Jammu and Kashmir to topple the state government. Can one Independent MLA topple any state government? Each and every penny that was used by the TSD was accounted for and when the dust settled the Army too found that there was no discrepancy. It was a concerted effort launched at various levels, in a planned manner, to destroy the TSD,” the Army officer recalled.

The officer, who was a part of the establishment which was working closely with the TSD when it was brought down, recalled, “The TSD was doomed the day Lt General D.S. Suhag, Brigadier Abhay Krishna and Colonel Srikumar were given show-cause notices in the ‘Jorhat Dacoity’ case that took place in December 2011, and the media linked it as V.K. Singh trying to break the line of succession. The media forgot that it was V.K. Singh who had recommended Suhag for promotion to Army Commander. Suhag was show-caused for his failure to control a rogue unit and the dacoity that took place under his watch. Later, a joint secretary in the Ministry of Defence got into a personal fight with V.K. Singh and took the TSD down. The leaks to the media were made at the behest of this joint secretary,” he stated.

The value of TSD and the damage its closure cost the Indian Army in the long run, can perhaps be best summarised by the observations of the then Deputy Chief of Army, Lt General D.S. Thakur, who while appearing before a related Army proceeding, said, “It is sad to see that the witch hunt against the Intelligence Corps Officers who put their careers and lives on the line and took grave risks in conducting these operations in the service of the nation, still continues. It is also sad that, we don’t realise what damage we have been doing to the overall morale and effectiveness of our Intelligence Corps. By pursuing such inquiries we are only sending message to our Intelligence Corps personnel not to take risks and play safe. It is our officers at the apex level who should squarely take the blame for this state of affairs as without vibrant Intelligence Corps operations, we will be blinded in the Army.”

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Vikas » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:36 am

This desire for immediate retribution may not take us anywhere. Drop few bombs, sanitize LOC by couple of KM's, remove security are just temporary clouds that may not hamper Paki power to play terrorism in India.
IMO, GOI doesn't wish to go the route of targeting top Pakis in the echelon of power including crore-commanders or ex-Generals. This may open op a tit-for-tat box which would be hard to control. No sane nation does that.
Modi Ji is in a fix but going by attitude of Indians, no action policy by Sonia after 26/11 did not any damage to their election prospects. So bringing politics and election results into the equation may not be of much use. Going by SM, short of declaring war on Pakis, nothing is going to satisfy people.
Honestly How a war will finish Paki terrorism is beyond my understanding if Pak is left intact after the war.
Actually in my mind, as long as Pak exists, we will never be able to 100% secure our citizens.

From political point of view, I still see a major riot on the horizon. NM's strength has been tested on economy,Honesty and Governance and now his weakness will be tested by BiF.

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Post by chetak » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:53 am

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Post by chetak » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:51 am

See how the narrative is smoothly and fluidly changing, even as we speak.

They have impressive coordination and control mechanisms and sometimes we can even see the guys who are actually doing it. Presstitutes like burka butt are anyway paid to serve their masters like the ISI and hafiz saeed and his locally representative political party.

shehla rashid, that rabidly poisonous jnu naxal and jehadi is in the forefront of the "cashmeri students are in danger " cabal on Indian media as well as the SM who diverted the narrative from the Pulwama attack to the anecdotal Kashmiri students are under threat meme.



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Post by Aditya_V » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:17 am

Vikas wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:36 am
This desire for immediate retribution may not take us anywhere. Drop few bombs, sanitize LOC by couple of KM's, remove security are just temporary clouds that may not hamper Paki power to play terrorism in India.
IMO, GOI doesn't wish to go the route of targeting top Pakis in the echelon of power including crore-commanders or ex-Generals. This may open op a tit-for-tat box which would be hard to control. No sane nation does that.
Modi Ji is in a fix but going by attitude of Indians, no action policy by Sonia after 26/11 did not any damage to their election prospects. So bringing politics and election results into the equation may not be of much use. Going by SM, short of declaring war on Pakis, nothing is going to satisfy people.
Honestly How a war will finish Paki terrorism is beyond my understanding if Pak is left intact after the war.
Actually in my mind, as long as Pak exists, we will never be able to 100% secure our citizens.

From political point of view, I still see a major riot on the horizon. NM's strength has been tested on economy,Honesty and Governance and now his weakness will be tested by BiF.

PS: I have dropped Sony Pack from my subscription list and have dropped an email to Sony customer care to kick out Sidhu or suffer my boycott.
In the long term we need to break up Pak to have any chance of peace. They are propped by many who dont want to see India rise alogn with an ecosystem with supporters within India.

We defiantly need some kind of retribution now otherwise we are inviting another attack from the Pakis. Long term

1. We improve our economy and education systems to make sure people are better informed.
2. Better economic capability allows us to develop a domestic MIC so that we can win a short and deceive war where we overwhelm the Pakis in a short period of time. Probably requires 10-15 years of dedicated rearmament. Just to give an example, 1971 was on quick rearmament from 1965, for e.g just for the air force Marutes, 100+ Mig 21 FL's, 100+ Su 7 and 50+ improved Hunters while retiring the Vampires, organs etc, similarly Petya boats and T-55 tanks etc for the Army.

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Post by Sachin » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:23 am

ricky wrote:Something weird is going on with our masses, I live in a smallish city and within a 2 km radius, i have thus far encountered 3 different gatherings/mobile torch marches/ sloganeering of pakistan murdabad
Same here. The place where I stay is a sleepy little town (graduated from a village which it was 8 years back), and even there I saw a "candle light" march. There were no political party flags, but the organisers were pleading with Na.Mo to make sure that these deaths are avenged. The crowd was also carrying a poster of PC Guru from Mandya, Karnataka who was killed in the attack. This may be the first time there is such massive protest going on all across the country.

One thing I also noticed that some English news papers had also put up photographs of the dead jawans in a state-wise form. Clearly giving the message that the brave men came from all parts of India. It clearly said that these brave men were from humble backgrounds, from various parts of India yet part of a force protecting the nation as a unified team. It was only a few regional news outlets (especially in Kerala) which downplayed the incident or started giving various reasons and excuses and generally favoured the Islamic terrorists.

Students assault collegemate backing army, held
Three Kashmiri students have been arrested for assaulting a collegemate over his Facebook page against the Pulwama suicide bomber. An engineering dropout from the city was arrested for a Facebook post praising the attack. [All this from the city of Bengaluru].

Four Kashmiri students booked for sedition in Jaipur
Several social organisations [like PUCL] have requested the police and administration to drop the charges against the students as well as to provide security to 300-odd Kashmiri students studying in various colleges in Rajasthan. :roll:

Being Kashmiri in Bengaluru, in aftermath of Pulwama
Fear, excuses, "secularism", sense of entitlement; all in one news paper report.

Pulwama attack: ‘Shaved my beard. Everyone looks at you with suspicion’, says student in Ambala
Looks like the Jehadi sympathisers have now started getting some sense of fear.

If you notice the main stream media has also started their cover up program for the Kashmiri Jehadis strutting around as students in various colleges across India. This is where the common man should actively plan for a social boycott of these traitors.
chetak wrote:The humongous public reactions of the aam janta to the funerals of these slain CRPF soldiers is scaring the crap out of the opposition.
Agree. And since this convoy also had lots of men returning from leaves, the men were also from various parts of India. The dead men from KL, TN, KA, MH, HY,PJ and even from north eastern states. And when they get cremated at their own home towns, the public outrage against the useless Kashmiri Jehadis are going to get even more stronger.

But all this is a double edged sword. Because of GoI if seen as not taking strong (visible) action against the Jehadis, the "seculars" would use this to hit back at GoI and the BJP. As I write this a Major and four IA jawans have already been martyred today at J&K (along with one Jehadi pig who is said to be the master mind of the Pulwama attack).

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Post by Vikas » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:52 am

Aditya_V wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:17 am
Vikas wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:36 am
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PS: I have dropped Sony Pack from my subscription list and have dropped an email to Sony customer care to kick out Sidhu or suffer my boycott.
In the long term we need to break up Pak to have any chance of peace. They are propped by many who dont want to see India rise alogn with an ecosystem with supporters within India.

We defiantly need some kind of retribution now otherwise we are inviting another attack from the Pakis. Long term

1. We improve our economy and education systems to make sure people are better informed.
2. Better economic capability allows us to develop a domestic MIC so that we can win a short and deceive war where we overwhelm the Pakis in a short period of time. Probably requires 10-15 years of dedicated rearmament. Just to give an example, 1971 was on quick rearmament from 1965, for e.g just for the air force Marutes, 100+ Mig 21 FL's, 100+ Su 7 and 50+ improved Hunters while retiring the Vampires, organs etc, similarly Petya boats and T-55 tanks etc for the Army.
^ This is going to be a long and a dirty battle to regain what we lost over the centuries which is direct control over area upto Sindhu and influence over area beyond it. Once the emotions subside, are we as a nation ready to put our soldiers in the areas currently occupied by Pakis. Breaking Pakistan has no meaning if we can control and assimilate those areas back. This would mean bloodshed and loss of Indian lives.

So Yes, we need a far better economy but like China, we can fall into this trap of face saving instead of getting on with bareknuckle fight once we make enough money.

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Post by Aditya_V » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:41 am

Yes it will not mean simplistic solutions we will just march and occupy theier land, it will be mean having old rivalries and undoing the suppression f the Pathans, Pakjabis have a price to pay.

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Post by KL Dubey » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:48 pm

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 051670.cms

BJP-Shivasena alliance sealed in MH,without any funny "big brother" conditions. Amitji's no-BS approach has been vindicated. He has called the bluff of Uddhav and Aditya. Most likely there was pressure within Shivasena from MPs and MLAs who were getting ready to jump ship.

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Post by KL Dubey » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:50 pm

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 017328.cms

Meanwhile in TN, it looks like the BJP-AIADMK-smaller parties alliance is ready, with the announcement to come soon according to the TOI guys.

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Post by KL Dubey » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:54 pm

It looks like Amitji has done a great job of forming and handling alliances in BH, MH, and TN...and good decision to cut loose the TDP and AGP's sinking ships.

Day by day the NDA is looking even more formidable than 2014.

I wonder if there is any pre-poll plan with Jagan in AP ?

UP seems very interesting, with the SP weakened by rivalries/factions.

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Post by Sachin » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:58 pm

KL Dubey wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:48 pm
BJP-Shivasena alliance sealed in MH,without any funny "big brother" conditions. Amitji's no-BS approach has been vindicated. He has called the bluff of Uddhav and Aditya. Most likely there was pressure within Shivasena from MPs and MLAs who were getting ready to jump ship.
I just cannot wait to read the online Malayalam news papers like http://www.mathrubhumi.com (their owner is a turn coat who currently is with CPI(M)) when they report this. For the last 12 months, they have been hoping that Shiv Sena would part ways with the BJP and BJP would be toast in Maharashtra. They also selectively allow comments from readers who support their "anal-ysis". Many Kerala based MSM who have no knowledge of any thing beyond KL borders (and the Middle East) have been writing pages about how life is in North India etc.

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Post by KL Dubey » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:59 pm

The situation for NDA in south India (MH, GA, KA, KL, TG, AP, TN, and various UTs) seems to be dramatically improving. 70 seats from this region doesn't seem unrealistic at all now.

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Post by JohnTitor » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:26 pm

I am happy that BJP is making alliances, but the BJP needs to increase its own vote share and decrease it's reliance on allies. Today's allies are tomorrow's does. Nitish is a prime example, that snake will bite whenever he feels it'll help him, just as all the allies
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Post by hanumadu » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:26 pm

KL Dubey wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:48 pm
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 051670.cms

BJP-Shivasena alliance sealed in MH,without any funny "big brother" conditions. Amitji's no-BS approach has been vindicated. He has called the bluff of Uddhav and Aditya. Most likely there was pressure within Shivasena from MPs and MLAs who were getting ready to jump ship.
Good sense prevails with Shiv Sena. They were putting a gun to their head and negotiating. Glad they did not pull the trigger.

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