The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Hari Seldon » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:32 am

chetak wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:15 am
Kanaka Durga seeks refuge in shelter home: Family of woman who entered Sabarimala disowns her days after attack by mum-in-law

Kanaka Durga seeks refuge in shelter home: Family of woman who entered Sabarimala disowns her days after attack by mum-in-law
The Fhart breaks upon seeing such patent injustice. /sarc off.

But expect the atrocity narrative factories to go into overdrive driving bleeding fharts the world over into ever greater frenzy. They've sadly cried wolf too often. They deserve our unreserved contempt and mockery. Shall get 'em in spades.

Lolwa.

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Post by Vikas » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:39 am

Daughter of the nation joins the Board of Directors at family run business

Priyanka Gandhi Vadra was on Wednesday appointed Congress general secretary in charge of east Uttar Pradesh ahead of Lok Sabha elections.
The battle for UP just got little more interesting. Now She is a fair target for politicians.

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Post by Aditya_V » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:25 am

And how the media has given the title to Mrs Priyanka Vadera over 600+million other daughters of this nation? Wouldn't it be better daughter of INC be better.

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Post by Gus » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:13 am

this move is betraying an insecurity.

or maybe it is a way to haggle another seat from SP-BSP :lol:

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Post by Supratik » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:29 pm

Modi is silently doing another job. Breaking the Nehru-Gandhi monopoly on the tourist circuit narrative. When I visited Delhi first time on a tour we were taken to mostly Nehru-Gandhi memorials and Mughal stuff with some Gandhi thrown in. Today he opened several memorials in Red Fort, a tourist hotspot, foremost being Netaji museum. So far he has named three islands in A&N after Netaji or related to Netaji, built a supertall Patel statue with several tourists infra and is going to built a Shivaji statue/memorial. The C-system deliberately kept everything about Nehru-Gandhi family so that the family becomes the de-facto ruling dynasty of India. He is slowly breaking that up with these initiatives so that the common people know about other sacrifices. The C-system is not going to go away with one election defeat. It will need much more.

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/arti ... ngh/352338

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Post by chadev » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:02 pm

2019 isn't about anti-Modi. It's the pro individual value of AY, Maya, MB etc collectively beats Modi. So a pro-Maya person who dislikes SP but will still vote for them. BJP isn't getting any anti-mahagathbandhan votes as well as those anti-AY, anti-Maya etc votebank. So BJP votes can just be restricted to the pro-Modi appeal. Thus, I feel celebs will get more tickets for BJP this time as they bring their own huge appeal.

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Post by Supratik » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:05 pm

Govt considering reservations in minority educational institutions. Should move another constitutional amendment IMO.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 645442.cms

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Post by chetak » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:04 pm

The rafale scenario is getting murkier with many players jousting overtly and covertly. Pappu may just be a minor league player in this scam to oust the rafale.

somewhere else, SAAB has offered to make the grippen in India. too bad that the engine is US made, leaving us at grave risk once again.


‘Will Make India The Sole Global F-16 Production Facility’: Lockheed Martin Sweetens Indian Air Force Aircraft Deal
US defence giant Lockheed Martin has projected exports to the tune of $20 billion from its proposed F-16 fighter aircraft manufacturing facility in India, reports Reuters.

The estimate is based on potential external demand for 200 aircraft, besides the 114 fighters which are required by the Indian Air Force (IAF).

The firm is involved in close competition with Boeing’s F/A-18, Saab’s Gripen, Dassault Aviation’s Rafale, the Eurofighter Typhoon and a Russian fighter to win a contract in excess of $15 billion to supply 114 jets to the IAF. The offer to shift production capacity to India is part of its bid to clinch the deal.

The vice president of strategy and business development at Lockheed Martin, Vivek Lall stated that the company plans to make India its sole F-16 manufacturing base both for domestic and global markets.

"We see current demand outside of India of more than 200 aircraft. The value of those initial acquisition programs would likely exceed $20 billion," he stated.

He revealed that Bahrain and Slovakia have already selected the F-16 Block 70 variant which has been offered to India. The report claimed that ten other countries are considering the fighter as well.

Lockheed Martin has chosen Tata Advanced Systems as its local partner for the proposed F-16 facility; it declared last year that two would produce wings for the aircraft in India, irrespective of being awarded the IAF contract.

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Post by chetak » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:23 pm

this is interesting,

looks like the fall out of the commie duplicity.


Reality Is ‘No Cheque’: Nearly Half Of All Instruments, In Value Terms, Sent To Kerala CM’s Relief Fund Dishonoured
Reality Is ‘No Cheque’: Nearly Half Of All Instruments, In Value Terms, Sent To Kerala CM’s Relief Fund Dishonoured

About half the cheques and demand drafts (in value terms) sent to the Kerala Chief Minister's Distress Relief Fund (CMDRF) following the mid-August floods have been dishonoured by banks, Indian Express has reported.

Kerala Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan, in a reply to an unstarred question raised by Kasargod legislator NA Nellikkunnu in the Assembly, said the CMDRF received cheques and DDs worth Rs 7.46 crore till 30 November. Of that, 395 cheques and DDs worth Rs 3.26 crore were dishonoured at banks, he said.

Nellikunnu was cited in the report as saying that many persons and organisations issued cheques to get 15 minutes of fame during the floods. “The high number of dishonoured cheques proves there were many out there vying for publicity during the floods,” Nellikkunnu said.

According to the report, the CMDRF, however, received a total of Rs 2,797.67 crore till 30 November 2018 with most of the money coming in cash. Of the total received donation, Rs 260.45 crore came through online transfer while Rs 2,537.22 crore was paid in cash, cheque and DD. On the expenditure, he said Rs 457.23 crore was spent as contingency aid during the floods.

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Post by Supratik » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:16 pm

No Cong-TDP alliance in AP.

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Post by chetak » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:39 pm

Supratik wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:16 pm
No Cong-TDP alliance in AP.
short hair in some unmentionable places got burned, more CBN's than pappu's.

besides, the begum of kolkata would throw a really fierce fit.

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Post by Vikas » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:06 pm

How soon before we see loyalists divided between Rahul and Priyanka ?
It would be normal for those discarded by one sibling to gravitate towards another. Moreover Nehru family never had 2 contenders for power since Moti Lal Nehru joined politics. This would be a first.
Assuming that Mrs. Vadra fights from Prayagraj constituency, Congress in its mind is counting 3 confirmed seats from UP.

PS: Inner sources talk about the 'Beti' to be a Uber Snob ,egotist with sense of entitlement of highest order.

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Post by hanumadu » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:50 pm

Supratik wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:16 pm
No Cong-TDP alliance in AP.
Probably better for TDP. An alliance with congress would only repel votes for TDP just like it did for congress in Telangana.

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Post by JohnTitor » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:53 am

Vikas wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:06 pm
How soon before we see loyalists divided between Rahul and Priyanka ?
It would be normal for those discarded by one sibling to gravitate towards another. Moreover Nehru family never had 2 contenders for power since Moti Lal Nehru joined politics. This would be a first.
Assuming that Mrs. Vadra fights from Prayagraj constituency, Congress in its mind is counting 3 confirmed seats from UP.

PS: Inner sources talk about the 'Beti' to be a Uber Snob ,egotist with sense of entitlement of highest order.
First family had Indira Gandhi's sons. One was vanquished in a plane crash and wife exiled. That is generally what happens whenever there are 2 centres of power. The weaker is booted out. Otherwise, if both are equally powerful, the assets are divided a la Ambanis.

I do not think there will be divisions as such. The weaker of the two will eventually be sidelined, if not removed all together. Rahul is preferable because he can be remote controlled. But he is also a liability.

Daughter is new blood, and if she can perform, then Rahul will be thrown aside. The congoons will grovel at Priyanka's feet.

Ego isn't an issue, that didn't stop her mum. It didn't stop the party either or some of the country from falling at her feet (I still cannot forget the instance when some woman was threatening suicide in front of 10 Jan path if Sonia Mata didn't become PM, such are the voters, some here are elevating to chanakyans). Actually, being an @sshole gets you respect in India. Look at all our politicians, ones who treat others with discontent are elevated to demigod levels.

If the daughter takes up the role seriously, my bet will be that Rahul will be the youth icon that left politics.

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Post by KL Dubey » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:02 am

hanumadu wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:50 pm
Supratik wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:16 pm
No Cong-TDP alliance in AP.
Probably better for TDP. An alliance with congress would only repel votes for TDP just like it did for congress in Telangana.
Things have gone seriously south for "Chandranna" from the moment he walked out of the NDA. It seems like he didn't learn a lesson from 2004 or 2014. Ab to kahin ka nahin raha - now we will see what he has gained by sucking up to greens and crossers.

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Post by Yagnasri » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:18 am

I am back after a long time of not looking into this thread. Hope will be coming here regularly till the elections and later. Surprised to see many mothership gurus are here actively. Thought they are not posting here.

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Post by Vikas » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:10 am

Media is spinning how PGV has striking resemblance to her grandmother and late Prime Minister Indira Gandhi but what does it count for. How many of us remember life before 1984 or ere even born.
Yes She will bring some joy and excitement to Congoon circles but that is pretty much it.
If history is to go by, she will be as disrespectful towards ModiJi as MSA or RG is.

Wonder if indirectly She has thrown her hat in the ring of 'Kaun Banega PM" from MGB if no party gets majority.

JT: I completely agree with you that we may not see RG in a serious role by 2024 if PGV takes up her role seriously. We should be looking at new congress president in a few years form now.

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Post by Chandragupta » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:25 am

Never underestimate the stupidity of Indian voters. I still remember in 2014 elections in Rae Bareli or Amethi, thousands of people had turned up to listen to Priyanka and how the women folk were fawning over her 'fair' complexion and singing praises of her & family, despite their last 2 generations living in slums in the constituencies these worthies have represented since time immemorial.

If Priyanka is made the PM candidate tomorrow, watch how a sizable chunk of voters will vote for her just because she is new & has resemblance to IG.

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Post by JohnTitor » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:33 am

^ +1

Absolutely. Indian electorate is one of the dumbest on earth. For a bottle, a sari or TV, they will sell the country.

PG will win not for her work, but for her looks, her family and the boot licking mentality that is ingrained in people.

Before kujliwala was voted in, not second time, but first.. I knew he was a joke and wouldn't accomplish anything. Yet I had IIT and IIM people (not one or two but 10s) who vouched that he was different. Heck they even vouched for him after the first debacle.

If that's what people from India's so called "elite" institutes are capable of, what can you expect from the local fellow.

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Post by Primus » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:06 pm

One of the slogans I was hearing about 'bottle' during the 2014 elections was 'Tujhme Indira Dikhti hai', you can bet this will be revived and amplified ad nauseam by the slaves.

I am not sure RaGa will be sidelined. The mother prefers the son to take up the mantle and while the daughter would be useful it will still be the son who will be the PM choice as long as the mother has a say in it. After her power wanes, yes, things will switch, if the son is still in the running, for the daughter is actually more astute politically, and more appealing especially to the woman voter.

Sad state of affairs altogether. Our herd memory of colonial rule is so strong that the Indian voter still prefers TFTA leaders to the SDRE type.

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Post by shravanp » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:12 pm

That 'Indira look' factor will never work for following reasons: New voters won't even know what is that all about. Even if new voters were to buy in the media song 'look she looks like Indira', they would be more likely to be influenced by their immediate elder relatives who knew Indira. Negatively. With the advent of social media and even in MSM (having fair load of sarcasm in debates), this will be always be seen with skepticism.

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Post by shravanp » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:26 pm

hanumadu wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:56 am
JohnTitor wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:34 am

Of course, not to take away credit from Modi's work as CM.. that helped too, because GJ was/is much better governed for years before Modi's ascension. People expected magic in 5 years.
IMHO, Modi did do magic.
Absolutely he did. He turned around the empty government treasury and filled it up by record tax collections, fixed large part of NPA crisis, national security and several society level changes (swach bharat abhiyaan, health insurance, farmers insurance etc..) . None of these things were possible under Cong raj. Day by day Congress looks like evil British raj.

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Post by Primus » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:24 pm

From Swarajya Magazine, Jaggi's opinion piece.

Picture does not look very good. All the things we praise Modi for may not matter if good jobs cannot be promised/delivered. Strange, people don't seem to care about whether they have electricity, toilets, gas stoves, bank accounts, healthcare etc. In other words, the basic necessities that provide a platform to build a career and a life are not important to the average poor of India. They would rather wallow in the same quagmire of poverty, living in single room jhuggis, defecating behind the mud wall where they sleep and eking out a miserable living as they have done for decades under UPA, simply to vote people from their own caste back into power once again and perpetuate their pathetic existence forever more.

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Post by KL Dubey » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:09 pm

shravanp wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:26 pm
hanumadu wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:56 am
JohnTitor wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:34 am

Of course, not to take away credit from Modi's work as CM.. that helped too, because GJ was/is much better governed for years before Modi's ascension. People expected magic in 5 years.
IMHO, Modi did do magic.
Absolutely he did. He turned around the empty government treasury and filled it up by record tax collections, fixed large part of NPA crisis, national security and several society level changes (swach bharat abhiyaan, health insurance, farmers insurance etc..) . None of these things were possible under Cong raj. Day by day Congress looks like evil British raj.
And equally importantly, unlike NDA-1 he is not repeating the mistake of leaving the treasury full. Massive use of goremint funds for welfare schemes. By mistake even if a non-NDA goremint comes in, they won't have anything to "eat".

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Post by hanumadu » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:20 pm

Primus wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:24 pm
From Swarajya Magazine, Jaggi's opinion piece.

Picture does not look very good. All the things we praise Modi for may not matter if good jobs cannot be promised/delivered. Strange, people don't seem to care about whether they have electricity, toilets, gas stoves, bank accounts, healthcare etc. In other words, the basic necessities that provide a platform to build a career and a life are not important to the average poor of India. They would rather wallow in the same quagmire of poverty, living in single room jhuggis, defecating behind the mud wall where they sleep and eking out a miserable living as they have done for decades under UPA, simply to vote people from their own caste back into power once again and perpetuate their pathetic existence forever more.
Jobs And Wages: Almost everyone agrees that jobs are an issue in this election. But the real issue is not the sheer availability of jobs – there are many kinds of jobs available even now – but the wages which these jobs deliver. The voter will back not someone who promises more jobs, but someone who promises better jobs, and higher wages. The UPA has no answers here, but the NDA can turn a negative into a positive if it points out that the quality of jobs – if not the quantity – is improving through formalisation, as the growth in the EPFO subscriber base reveals. The NDA can claim that the process of improving the quality of formal jobs has begun, and it will be fulfilled in its next term, but its arguments here need to be believable and convincing. It can’t do so if it keeps denying a jobs and wages problem.
IIRC this guy was saying there are not jobs to now no well paying jobs.
Perhaps, there are not a lot of high paying jobs, but will voters risk losing even those jobs. And inflation is low. So low pay may not be a big negative in the short term.

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