The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

[srikumar]

You don't like Modi Ji because of your corruption allegation (fair enough) but you are willing to vote for congress whose reason d'eater is to loot the country from every angle and every revenue.

Exactly my man. This is a simple question to ask anyone who spouts reams of highly intelligent commentary about why Modi should not be voted in. . Their standard tactic is to talk about what Modi has not done, and as long as the conversation is about that and that alone, they are on good ground. It starts to show holes when one discusses the alternatives to Modi.

And after 4 years, they *still* cannot show one person at the first or second rung of leadership i.e. Mamata, Naidu, etc and has shown a willingness to control corruption. Congress party leaders should be the very last in that list of people who will try to control corruption. Even congress walas know it. The best thing about elections is that one leader has to be chosen. This is where their story unravels....You dont want to vote Modi for reasons a,b,c? Fine. Then who do you want to be PM in his place, and will be less corrupt? No answer. Elections are 3 months away and you still dont know who should replace Modi. That's a telling statement in itself.

I do have some sympathy for people who might say 'OK, GST killed my black money source. I am honest now ... why are the bigwigs getting away with it'. There are procedural issues with GST as well. Modi should absolutely be blamed for such things- his govt has a solemn duty to make it easy for people who want to (and now have to) comply. However, if corruption is a true concern for you, give Modi one more term to finish off what he started. If you think there is someone else who can finish what Modi could not (or, in the eyes of some, does not want to), then let me know who will be willing go after the bigger frauds, and let's elect him.

[hanumadu]

What a brilliant riposte by my man Abhijit Iyer Mitra completely annihilating Burka bibi as a pompous low-IQ western wannabe loquacious self-aggrandizing ego maniac

https://theprint.in/opinion/dear-barkha ... ra/166519/

That too in the print of Shekar Coupta. The two were partners once. Still may be. And she still writes for the print.

[hanumadu]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 199116.cms

BJP & LJP set to announce deal on seat-sharing

17 seats for JD(U) is a lot of seats especially for Lok Sabha. It was a junior partner in MGB getting b*t*h slapped by the RJD. Hope BJP gets equal seat sharing during the assembly elections later.

[hanumadu]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 186135.cms
Maharashtra BJP survey finds 2014 Lok Sabha wave ebbing, Sena crucial to success.

"If we contest the Lok Sabha polls jointly, we will win fewer than 30 to 34 seats and if we contest separately, the BJP
may win 15 to 18 seats, while the Shiv Sena will be able to secure five to eight seats. In that event, the CongressNCP
combine will win 22 to 28 seats," a former BJP minister said.

Currently the BJP has 22 sseats. Not a huge loss if it can win 18 on its own, though I believe it can win more.

[Vriksh]

FWIW. his claim is because BJP retained seats, rural distress is not an issue,

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/was-ru ... -otherwise

[JohnTitor]

chinmayanand .. your arguments are failing you.

Let us assume that Modi let Mallya go (not true, another Congress lie, but let it be). Also let us assume that Modi is corrupt... Hilarious, but still ..so your solution is to vote Congress?

You think they are not corrupt? You are better off voting NOTA .. at least it'll make your argument more sincere.

To say Congress are corrupt is an understatement. Here is a list of scams by then since independence: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... s_in_India

So save face, vote NOTA.

[SSundar]

There is an eerie similarity in all the arguments put forth by these AAPtard trolls in every forum - WA, FB, Twtr, BGR, etc.

- Modi can't control petrol prices. (Ignore current lower petrol prices)
- Modi created all those NPAs. (Ignore how the NPA compounding process works and how it dates back to UPA 1)
- Modi paid too much for Rafale and favored Ambani (Ignore ALL numbers, math, offset process and the diff between armed vs. unarmed)
- Modi introduced GST which messed up the economy (Ignore the GDP increasing and GST collections being robust)
- Modi let Mallya escape (Ignore why Modi has nearly succeeded in bringing Mallya back or why Mallya needed to leave India in the first place)
- Modi is hurting the middle class through high taxes (Ignore the tax breaks given in the first 2 years)
- Modi did DeMo that really messed us up (Semi-valid criticism but ignore the actual flushing positive effect on BM and that the economy has bounced back)
- Modi made my friends/relatives lose jobs due to DeMo (Ignore the possibility that those friends/relatives were dealing with unaccounted for money)

In all the above, the protagonist carefully avoids any mention of whether he/she lost any money in DeMo.

There is a whole generation of people converted into perfect zombies by the paid media led by NDTV and News 18.

The only criticism of theirs that cannot be refuted with any decent data or evidence is the claim of high unemployment. I see that survey-based Labour Statistics were indeed published by GoI until 2016. It stopped after 2016. Unfortunately, this provides circumstantial support to their claim that there is massive unemployment in India. This is indeed a negative for Modi.

[Vriksh]

Most of these turds call themselves atheists, progressives etc and dump only on Hindus.

[vishvak]

Need for a more ‘gentle’ leader

More like how newspaper reports usually carry a line about cow protection law at end, thereby showing bias and create wiggle room for law breakers.

Only then Hindoo can be blamed. Wonder why viewpoints of leftists (=selective anti-Hindoo?) matches that of law breakers i.e. be silent about cow protection and criticize selectively. (Nasiruddin Shah complained of only murder of police inspector etcetera)

This is crucial to understand that mahaGTBD is not only about state level politicians but also has support from 'international' big players.

In effect, the leftists (selectively anti-Hindoo) claim (very surely) that people will
* vote for BJP only if leadership changes
* else NOTA

[chetak]

Most of these turds call themselves atheists, progressives etc and dump only on Hindus.

This is done knowingly and purposely so that they can claim that there is no religious bias.

mofos like javed akthar, naseerudin shah et al and many other leftist scum and urban naxal filth are " atheists".

you will NEVER find then speaking against or ever criticizing rolers or ropers.

Their target is only the Hindu and for this "intellectual" cut and thrust, many high society doors open to them, track thoo and other five star single malt gravy trains and cushy sinecures. It also guarantees them a very good press and a huge media exposure.

no wonder these britshit lickspittle sepoys are doing so well.

[chetak]

Most of these turds call themselves atheists, progressives etc and dump only on Hindus.

This is done knowingly and purposely so that they can claim that there is no religious bias but In reality, these guys are religious bigots with a single point anti Hindu agenda.

mofos like javed akthar, naseerudin shah et al and many other leftist scum and urban naxal filth are " atheists".

you will NEVER find then speaking against or ever criticizing rolers or ropers.

Their target is only the Hindu and for this "intellectual" cut and thrust, many high society doors open to them, track thoo and other five star single malt gravy trains and cushy sinecures. It also guarantees them a very good press and a huge media exposure.

no wonder these britshit lickspittle sepoys are doing so well.

[Vriksh]

Chetak saar, these jokers will behave like this onlee for their religious goals. But why are educated hindus so dhimmi, cowardly and suicidal?

[chetak]

Chetak saar, these jokers will behave like this onlee for their religious goals. But why are educated hindus so dhimmi, cowardly and suicidal?

many non minority schools are also actively insisting on santa claus outfits for their students as part of the "celeberations" and are heavily into christmas type activities.

There is no accounting for such dhimmi type of activities.

Included among the lot are very many army run KV schools. go figure.

[srikumar]

There is an eerie similarity in all the arguments put forth by these AAPtard trolls in every forum - WA, FB, Twtr, BGR, etc.

- Modi can't control petrol prices. (Ignore current lower petrol prices)
- Modi created all those NPAs. (Ignore how the NPA compounding process works and how it dates back to UPA 1)
- Modi paid too much for Rafale and favored Ambani (Ignore ALL numbers, math, offset process and the diff between armed vs. unarmed)
- Modi introduced GST which messed up the economy (Ignore the GDP increasing and GST collections being robust)

In all the above, the protagonist carefully avoids any mention of whether he/she lost any money in DeMo.

The only criticism of theirs that cannot be refuted with any decent data or evidence is the claim of high unemployment. I see that survey-based Labour Statistics were indeed published by GoI until 2016. It stopped after 2016. Unfortunately, this provides circumstantial support to their claim that there is massive unemployment in India. This is indeed a negative for Modi.

As poster shiv once said, if you are getting into details to 'explain', and they are hammering on one point and moving quickly to the next point, they are already winning the argument. If you are explaining, they are winning.

Going into details and explaining the truth and the math and the context behind why Modi could not do a certain thing, or why certain things are only 50% (or 70%) done does not mean much to people who have already made up their mind. There are some people who definitely deserve to be engaged in a discussion/debate, if they are atleast willing to listen to your comments; and answer a few questions of yours. Such people are valuable to discuss with.

[RajaRaja]

Gadkari jockeying for 2019?

Leadership should own responsibility for failure: Nitin Gadkari

[SSundar]

Gadkari jockeying for 2019?

Leadership should own responsibility for failure: Nitin Gadkari

More like Hindustan Times wagging their tail for Pidi biscuits.

[Vriksh]

Assembly election results: BJP's losses in Hindi heartland may actually help Narendra Modi in 2019 LS polls

https://www.firstpost.com/politics/asse ... m=referral

[Vriksh]

NOTA/disaffected core voters, local anti-incumbency.

[crams]

No need to give publicity, but you guys must have seen Taliban Khan's puke that he will teach BJP how to "treat minorities", closely following the heals of Jihadi Nasiruddin Shah feeling sooooo scared to live in India. Then as usual you have the assorted scum of self-loathing elite "Hindus" piling on their own, need I say more. (You have to credit the Paki ISI for using every fault line in India to rub it in. Taliban Khan was given the right script at the right time).

One thing I do agree with the protagonists, it is that the over-reaction from some Hindus that got Jihadi Shah more publicity than he had ever imagined. Now like every RAPE jihadi that he is, he must be sitting in his plush home in Mumbai, sipping scotch, calling up his TSP RAPE buddies, and assorted Lutyens, and must having the laugh of his life, while Hindus make a complete ass of themselves. And the irony and tragedy is that it is Hindus that are profusely bleeding at the hands of the same people who enjoy the fruits of Hindu benevolence and tolerance/respect and freedom to absue and whine about being 'scared'. So I would upend the well-known Paki slogan: Lad lad ke liyae Pakistan, hus hus kae langae Hindustan.

[Raj Malhotra]

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... y-5496559/

[chetak]

twitter

A group of Anarchist women under Manithi Sangham leader Selvi Mano is heading to #SabarimalaTemple

•What business does a SDPI supporter & a Zakir Naik empathiser has in a Hindu Temple?
• Who is behind this women Selvi Mano & Why is she so adamant to break Hindu traditions?

[chetak]

twitter

[Chandragupta]

Chetak saar, these jokers will behave like this onlee for their religious goals. But why are educated hindus so dhimmi, cowardly and suicidal?

many non minority schools are also actively insisting on santa claus outfits for their students as part of the "celeberations" and are heavily into christmas type activities.

There is no accounting for such dhimmi type of activities.

Included among the lot are very many army run KV schools. go figure.

Seeing the outright Christianization of Indian schools, I am seriously thinking of making an attempt to move to the west where schools are getting more & more secular. Never thought this day would come.

[JohnTitor]

Absolutely true. People are forced to pay for "Christmas" lunches and me to go to masses. Its insane.. I never experienced this sort of thing even though I've lived in a a Christian country all my life.

The worst part is when you talk to the Hindu parents, they say "it's not a big deal, it's part of learning other people's culture" or "so what, it's only a day a year" .. jeez they are so dhimmified, it's mind boggling

[Chandragupta]

Schools 'celebrating' entire Christmas week. Kids are being asked to bring photos of their Christmas tree & special craft classes are being taken for hand made decorations for Christmas tree. A tree in every class with decorations from every student. Is this not forced imposition of a foreign religion. Dhimmi Hindu parents are more than complicit, they are enabling this shit fest. A RW Hindu friend who is a hardcore Hindutva fellow, supported the firecracker ban has been putting a Christmas tree in his house every year for the last 2 years, for his son. He got more than a mouthful from me, probably will stop this time. But the dhimmitude of Hindus is outright baffling.

Christmas will overtake Diwali in upper middle class homes in a decade, mark my words. Ably supported by Hindu owned malls, schools, colleges, restaurants.