The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by Gus » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:02 pm

can't go against SC judgment without having a viable alternative.

if viable alternative is state ordinance, a la JK in TN..then it needs political strategizing ..can't open mouth just like that..

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Post by Vikas » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:37 pm

Gus wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:02 pm
can't go against SC judgment without having a viable alternative.

if viable alternative is state ordinance, a la JK in TN..then it needs political strategizing ..can't open mouth just like that..
Gus Ji, These are all excuses. He is PM but he is also leader of his party. Are you telling me that no PM ever spoke about the horrors brought about a state govt. If not for Ayyappa, then for whom will he speak out.
Meanwhile after all the hoo-haa, Pakis are still able to kill our soldiers across LOC. So obviously even Muscular policy at LOC is not working. Actually against Pak, NM sarkaar still is clueless like previous one and in J&K, Govt is hopeless.
Personally. I do appreciate him as PM of the nation and still will vote for him but he is no 'Hindu Hriday Samrat'.

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Post by crams » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:41 pm

Vikas, IMO, 'muscular policy' is working to the extent that India is containing Pakis. Lets not forget the big picture on Paki game plan: To make India's life living hell in J&K until India agrees to talk and put Kashmir front and center. And then with KMs on their side, and holding the terror gun, they hope to force India to make territorial concessions. As an interim, they will settle for 'joint sovereignty' (recall MMS/Sonia sell out to MushRat). This 'joint sovereignty' fits very well with traitors on our side because they can sell that as 'triumph of secularism'.

When looked at from this angle, ModiJi's muscular policy has indeed borne some fruit. And of course, on the diplomatic front, ModiJi has achieved some success in 'isolating' TSP.

Now, one can look at this as glass half full or glass half empty. To thwart Pakis from persisting with this game plan, India needs to have an offensive military capability that it does not currently have. Unless Pakijabis pay and unbearable price, neither will Pakis desist, nor will periodic killing of India soldiers stop, nor will Indian traitors stop pushing for p!ss talks with TSP.

But make no mistake, and this is where in the absence of a clear cut military upper hand over Pakis comes in, it depends on which side of the ideological spectrum you are on. For me, ModiJi/DovalJi/BJP/RSS will never ever sell Kashmir valley down the Indus river under the garb of 'joint sovereignty'. For the traitors, entering into p!ss talks with TSP is right to do and negotiating 'joint sovereignty' is a 'noble' gesture from big brother to long lost younger brother and it will put an end to killing (albeit temporarily).

But like you pointed out, I agree its painful to watch India having to constantly defend itself and lose valuable lives, and more shamefully, Indian traitors using Paki perfidy to undermine BJP/ModiJi. I don't know what other option is there besides full scale war which India cannot outright win IMO (or else ModiJi would have launched into it by now).

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Post by JohnTitor » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:46 pm

^^ he isn't "Hindu Hriday Samrat".. and he hasn't claimed to be.

Most people simply assume that RSS and BJP are both pro-Hindu. They aren't.

They aren't anti-Hindu and they're nationalists, that's all. That's still a good enough reason to vote for them over Congress, but one should have their expectations clarified.

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Post by crams » Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:17 pm

JohnTitor, I agree both BJP/RSS are sons-of-soil nationalists. But disagree slightly in that they are pro-Hindu 100%. But they are hamstrung given the limitations of Indian constitution, and they also lack the 'intellectual' wherewithal, albeit deceitful, that the Congoon ecosystem has to use the very same Indian Constitution to undermine and dilute the Hindu character of India. On this though I have to agree with that nut case slime ball western stooge and so called 'historian' Ramachandra Guha who once said that the Hindu right has no intellectual firepower. Right now with the exception of Rajiv Malhotra who is does not live in India, I don't see anyone of that caliber taking on Congoons in India.

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Post by Supratik » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:35 pm

Modi was never talkative. He speaks for maximum effect at the right time. Sabarimala is a KL-specific issue and there is specific information that RSS is behind it. That is how they operate. Not like Dharmendra in Hindi movies.

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Post by Primus » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:03 pm

crams wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:41 pm
Vikas, IMO, 'muscular policy' is working to the extent that India is containing Pakis. .......................

To thwart Pakis from persisting with this game plan, India needs to have an offensive military capability that it does not currently have. Unless Pakijabis pay and unbearable price, neither will Pakis desist, nor will periodic killing of India soldiers stop, nor will Indian traitors stop pushing for p!ss talks with TSP.

............................. I don't know what other option is there besides full scale war which India cannot outright win IMO (or else ModiJi would have launched into it by now).
Agree. The problem all these years was the poor state of the Indian armed forces. Bit like when we went to war with China. I have pesonally heard it from somebody involved in that conflict that the Indian soldiers were sent into battle in the freezing heights of the Himalayas with canvas shoes!

Ironical that the party and the descendants of the Iron lady who was so tough on Pak have allowed our security to lapse to this degree. If you read Nitin Gokhale's book "Securing India the Modi Way" (highly recommended, BTW), it paints a picture of India on the verge of disaster militarily with our supplies badly depleted, major weapon systems in bad need of repair/renewal and a state where we were left highly vulnerable in the event of an armed conflict with Pakistan.

The Congoons truly have to answer for a lot, but sadly, in their own schizophrenic thinking, they claim to hold the moral high ground.

Modi and AD need at least one more term to build India up to the point where we can truly hold the Pakis accountable and punish them if need be. They know this too, which is why all the efforts to prevent Modi from coming back into power.

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Post by Dumal » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:24 pm

Whether someone is talkative or not, we cannot expect prime ministers to comment on political matters that are evolving. The evil side have been, over the last 4 years, clamouring about Modi keeping quiet about lynchings and activist death etc really to provoke him politically and to make the point that he cannot take a position easily without offending one or the other side. Looks like we got caught in that contagion and now really expect him to comment on what really is a political issue.

The crux of it is that the Hindus have lost a lot of political space and power across the nation (and beyond) because of active sabotage by others as well as by our own internal divisions and bickering. This gradual and constant loss of power is what is coming home to roost now with Sabarimala, jallikattu etc. It will take a lot of hard remedial work over a long time to reverse this situation. We don’t stand to gain anything by pointing fingers at each other or calling for statements from the PM.

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Post by Sachin » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:06 pm

Triank wrote:some paanwaalas telling, bekaar achmed patel hid & locked himself in ladies-washroom during the raids
Does he work out of the Bangalore office? Amnesty Intl. whose funds had been blocked had registered some shady companies using which financial transactions continued. It would be worthwhile to know where these funds landed up. We still had the riots against Sterlite in TN (for example).
Vikas wrote:Someone pls explain why NM is not reacting to Ayyappa temple issue.
You would have seen a couple of posts from me above, in which I was very apprehensive of the Sangh strategy vis-a-vis Sabari Mala. And there were also lots of counter points raised (with me getting a MYTY title, but no worries). An elected Prime Minister of a nation cannot (or will have to really think 100 times) to make a remark on the nation's Supreme Court verdict. It is the Supreme Court verdict which the commies have utilised to further their agenda, and they can get away with that. They too are a state government who cannot go beyond what Hon.SC says. So Prime Minister Narendra Modi is actually right keep quiet about this for now, while nothing stops the Sangh Parivar from getting involved.
He is PM but he is also leader of his party. Are you telling me that no PM ever spoke about the horrors brought about a state govt. If not for Ayyappa, then for whom will he speak out.
As an elected Prime Minister of the country, has he made any controversial statement in issues like RJB etc? He keeps quiet, but others (who are not part of the government machinery) has to pitch in. Now on the "horrors brought about a state govt"; and making statements about this. In an election rally this makes sense. As a Prime Minister, he really cannot speak ill of a state government without valid reasons. The days of JLN and his state govt. removal methodology will not happen again. Law enforcement is still a state subject matter. Kerala Govt. and its police still have the rights to enforce the laws (even though selectively) in the state. A prime minister cannot raise questions on a state government for doing their job.

Now when can Narendra Modi chip in? If there is a consistent L&O problem in Kerala. It cannot be a one off incident, but has to be a continous. There has to be a strong recommendation from the governor on dismissing the state government. And the governor (being a judge) would know the requirements of proper documentation. But this is where the Sangh Parivar has to play a crucial role. It is through them that the Hindu devotees of Ayyappa needs to be helped. More than PM Modi it is the Sangh Parivar whose help is required. Ayyappa devotees are a diverse group (and may even be politically having different ideologies), and devotion has its limits.

The first elected "Communist government" in India (or perhaps the world) was dismissed by JLN not by making public speeches, but by clearly documenting the incidents in Kerala. The commies had come with many "land mark" action plans, which did not have a popular mandate. Then they tried to use their party cadre to implement these decisions by brute force. Kangaroo courts were rampant, with "party cells" acting as the tribunes. The policies on education also did not go well with pretty much every community who managed schools (Hindus, X'ians and Muslims). The police force (whose superior officers were smart to judge the calibre of the leaders) actually just played along. Police firings became rampant, lathi charges were the order of the day. No police officer gave two hoots to EMS Namboodirippad, the Chief Minister (a Kerala Brahmin, who was clueless on police culture). The congress & caste out fits launched protest marches one after the other, the police lathi charged them or fired at them (and gave a report that they had to do it to save their lives). Finally it was this constant decline of L&O in Kerala which was used as a reason to dismiss the state government.

At least in Kerala, many of the Chief Ministers who actually performed well had their previous stints as ministers in charge of two departments - Police & Revenue. K. Karunakaran, Umman Chandy; all had such an experience. K. Karunakaran may be a politician who every police man (irrespective of his party) trusted. And Karunakaran also knew the police so well, that during passing out parades he would even judge the way each platoon did their "slow marches".
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Post by Primus » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:21 pm

Vikas wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:37 pm

Personally. I do appreciate him as PM of the nation and still will vote for him but he is no 'Hindu Hriday Samrat'.
He never claimed to be. In his position he cannot and I believe should not. We are indeed a secular nation even though a large number of people have abused this. What is important is really 'sabka saath, sabka vikaas'. Having said that, I wish we had a few more like YA,who can take a different stance and do it without any fallout among the supporters. It is important, IMO to be on the right side of the law.

Truth is, you don't have to be anti-muslim to be pro-Hindu, just need somebody to reverse all the anti-Hindu legislation and molly-coddling of the minorities that has gone on since independence. This will take time and cannot be done overnight.

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Post by hanumadu » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:23 pm

For people asking what Namo does for Hindus or why they should vote BJP again...
BVP JNU
@abvpjnu

ABVP congratulates entire student community today!
Finally after a long struggle, lots of memorandum and endless follow up's, UGC scraped 100% weightage for viva-voce in M.Phil/Ph.D admission. Now, a weightage of 70% to the written test and 30% to Viva-voce shall be given.
These are the little steps that will roll back the anti Hindu nature of Indian academics.
This is not an isolated action but one in a series of steps.
1. A pro India VC gets appointed to JNU
2. The number of leftists admitted to MPhil, PhD courses get drastically cut by restricting the number of students a professor can advise to a reasonable limit
3. Now, the power to admit students is taken away significantly from the left cabal.

As the current teaching staff retires, they can be replaced by genuine scholars instead of leftist morons, if Namo gets an extended run.
Of course, you can vote NOTA in search of unobtanium and go back to business as usual.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by RajaRaja » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:07 pm

Primus wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:03 pm
crams wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:41 pm
Vikas, IMO, 'muscular policy' is working to the extent that India is containing Pakis. .......................

To thwart Pakis from persisting with this game plan, India needs to have an offensive military capability that it does not currently have. Unless Pakijabis pay and unbearable price, neither will Pakis desist, nor will periodic killing of India soldiers stop, nor will Indian traitors stop pushing for p!ss talks with TSP.

............................. I don't know what other option is there besides full scale war which India cannot outright win IMO (or else ModiJi would have launched into it by now).
Agree. The problem all these years was the poor state of the Indian armed forces. Bit like when we went to war with China. I have pesonally heard it from somebody involved in that conflict that the Indian soldiers were sent into battle in the freezing heights of the Himalayas with canvas shoes!

Ironical that the party and the descendants of the Iron lady who was so tough on Pak have allowed our security to lapse to this degree. If you read Nitin Gokhale's book "Securing India the Modi Way" (highly recommended, BTW), it paints a picture of India on the verge of disaster militarily with our supplies badly depleted, major weapon systems in bad need of repair/renewal and a state where we were left highly vulnerable in the event of an armed conflict with Pakistan.

The Congoons truly have to answer for a lot, but sadly, in their own schizophrenic thinking, they claim to hold the moral high ground.

Modi and AD need at least one more term to build India up to the point where we can truly hold the Pakis accountable and punish them if need be. They know this too, which is why all the efforts to prevent Modi from coming back into power.


Problem is building military strength requires higher level of budgetary allocation and this year the allocation in terms of percentage was lowest in the last 58 years. I watched several debates on TV and the retired military generals were sharp in criticism of the govt. They also graded the govt. poorly in handling Kashmir.

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Post by Indrad » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:13 pm

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... e-5420656/
Complaint against CBI No. 1: Bid to call off Lalu raid, bribe in Moin Qureshi case

^ 2 weeks to investigate 9 charges when melord take 29 years for 2 charges!

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Post by Indrad » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:14 pm

@RAJAGOPALAN1951
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What an irony! #CBI director Alok Verma has brought together @RahulGandhi and a top @BJP4India MP who is fighting UPA era corruption! Kaliyug mei kuch bhi ho sakta hai ! Wah !!

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Post by RajaRaja » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:15 pm

Got to give it to Nitishwa who despite having only about 5% votes as his vote bank has driven a tough bargain. Has BJP conceded too many seats?

BJP, JD(U) strike 50:50 deal for Lok Sabha polls in Bihar

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Post by Indrad » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:18 pm

there is buzz on SM that AlokVerma diluted case against Satender Jain & Kejri, gave assurance for support. He tapped phones of Doval,his son,PK Mishra & met Cong leaders before registering FIR against Asthana.

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Post by Lilo » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:01 am

Haldiram wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:07 pm
Primus wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:03 pm
crams wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:41 pm
Vikas, IMO, 'muscular policy' is working to the extent that India is containing Pakis. .......................

To thwart Pakis from persisting with this game plan, India needs to have an offensive military capability that it does not currently have. Unless Pakijabis pay and unbearable price, neither will Pakis desist, nor will periodic killing of India soldiers stop, nor will Indian traitors stop pushing for p!ss talks with TSP.

............................. I don't know what other option is there besides full scale war which India cannot outright win IMO (or else ModiJi would have launched into it by now).
Agree. The problem all these years was the poor state of the Indian armed forces. Bit like when we went to war with China. I have pesonally heard it from somebody involved in that conflict that the Indian soldiers were sent into battle in the freezing heights of the Himalayas with canvas shoes!

Ironical that the party and the descendants of the Iron lady who was so tough on Pak have allowed our security to lapse to this degree. If you read Nitin Gokhale's book "Securing India the Modi Way" (highly recommended, BTW), it paints a picture of India on the verge of disaster militarily with our supplies badly depleted, major weapon systems in bad need of repair/renewal and a state where we were left highly vulnerable in the event of an armed conflict with Pakistan.

The Congoons truly have to answer for a lot, but sadly, in their own schizophrenic thinking, they claim to hold the moral high ground.

Modi and AD need at least one more term to build India up to the point where we can truly hold the Pakis accountable and punish them if need be. They know this too, which is why all the efforts to prevent Modi from coming back into power.
Problem is building military strength requires higher level of budgetary allocation and this year the allocation in terms of percentage was lowest in the last 58 years. I watched several debates on TV and the retired military generals were sharp in criticism of the govt. They also graded the govt. poorly in handling Kashmir.
Bhature Bhujiawala ,
This time i see you are quite careful to not names of these "retired gernails" while as usual peddling your congi SM talking points hain ji?
You were caught last time plying K.C Singh's congie hogwash as manna from heaven - I remember then too you slunk back w/o answering why you prized that congie traitor KC Singh's opinion so much. Now you wizened up and give "their" opinions w/o naming names.Good.
https://forum.bharatganrajya.com/viewto ... 677#p13680

BTW to answer your congie criticism of Modi govt i suggest you read up below posts in Modi govt achievement thread
https://forum.bharatganrajya.com/viewto ... 124#p14121
https://forum.bharatganrajya.com/viewto ... 124#p13673

During your sikular maino gang days, IA could have fought Chicoms or Pakis for merely 10 days before your St.Antony would be forced to go with a begging bowl to Russians or Israelis for basic munitions.Now Indian forces are being equipped to fight a 30 day war and atleast basic munitions can be definitely sourced from india.
Guess it requires a certain gall to now claim defence expenditure is less just b/c the costly imports are being substituted and the GOI has subscribed to a make in india attitude.I can almost see the retired fixers of your congie system of 65 years squirming in pain as they can no longer expect the crates of imported whiskies and other regular goodies to channel the kickbacks back to your first family's offshore accounts, while keeping the forces in a stupor of import dependence.
And you are squirming here b/c they are writhing there?
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Post by hanumadu » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:10 am

Indrad wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:18 pm
there is buzz on SM that AlokVerma diluted case against Satender Jain & Kejri, gave assurance for support. He tapped phones of Doval,his son,PK Mishra & met Cong leaders before registering FIR against Asthana.
How did he even become a CBI director? Didn't Modi know about him before? Was he turned later by congress?

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Post by Lilo » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:19 am

hanumadu wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:10 am
Indrad wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:18 pm
there is buzz on SM that AlokVerma diluted case against Satender Jain & Kejri, gave assurance for support. He tapped phones of Doval,his son,PK Mishra & met Cong leaders before registering FIR against Asthana.
How did he even become a CBI director? Didn't Modi know about him before? Was he turned later by congress?
In Jan 2017 ,the name of Verma, a 1979-batch IPS officer of Arunachal Pradesh-Goa-Mizoram and Union Territories (AGMUT) cadre, was cleared by a three-member selection panel headed by the Prime Minister and comprising Chief Justice of India Jagdish Singh Khehar and Congress leader in Lok Sabha Mallikarjun Kharge as members

http://www.ptinews.com/news/8310361_Del ... chief.html
Two scenarios above - selection panel cleared the name by 2-1 or by 3-0
Members are welcome to guess which side the CJI voted in both scenarios and would this preference be likely according to Congie preference or BJP preference ?

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Post by hanumadu » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:23 am

Indrad wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:14 pm
@RAJAGOPALAN1951
13h13 hours ago
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What an irony! #CBI director Alok Verma has brought together @RahulGandhi and a top @BJP4India MP who is fighting UPA era corruption! Kaliyug mei kuch bhi ho sakta hai ! Wah !!
Subramanian Swamy says ED officer Rajeshwar Singh is being hampered and will be removed to enable Pappu to escape. While there are reports Rajeshwar Singh himself is corrupt and under probe.

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Post by Lilo » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:35 am

hanumadu wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:23 am
Indrad wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:14 pm
@RAJAGOPALAN1951
13h13 hours ago
More
What an irony! #CBI director Alok Verma has brought together @RahulGandhi and a top @BJP4India MP who is fighting UPA era corruption! Kaliyug mei kuch bhi ho sakta hai ! Wah !!
Subramanian Swamy says ED officer Rajeshwar Singh is being hampered and will be removed to enable Pappu to escape. While there are reports Rajeshwar Singh himself is corrupt and under probe.
^
Specifically on this issue my post from 4 months back >> https://forum.bharatganrajya.com/viewto ... 647#p12647
Ive posted many times on the nature of the foreign snake SuSu and the cretin swamytards who hype him on SM.
Latest video in below tweet where SuSu is now shamelessly leveraging his cretin Swamytards to self proclaiming himself as the second most popular leader in BJP (based on "twitter following" from cretin Swamitards) :rotfl:
https://twitter.com/vinayak_jain/status ... 9627220992



First SuSu called for deployment of Indian Army to implement the SC mandated desecration of Sabarimala,
Now by his open support of Alok Verma(in concert with congies aaptards and sikulars) and Rajeshwar Singh (both incidentally appointed by the Supreme court to scuttle corruption investigations on congies from within) his real face is revealed.
I notice the cretin Swamytards are nowadays dazed on twitter while their supremo is giving interviews to foreign funded channels like bloombergquint and reiterating his waning relevance in their name.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by hanumadu » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:54 am

Lilo wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:19 am
hanumadu wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:10 am
Indrad wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:18 pm
there is buzz on SM that AlokVerma diluted case against Satender Jain & Kejri, gave assurance for support. He tapped phones of Doval,his son,PK Mishra & met Cong leaders before registering FIR against Asthana.
How did he even become a CBI director? Didn't Modi know about him before? Was he turned later by congress?
In Jan 2017 ,the name of Verma, a 1979-batch IPS officer of Arunachal Pradesh-Goa-Mizoram and Union Territories (AGMUT) cadre, was cleared by a three-member selection panel headed by the Prime Minister and comprising Chief Justice of India Jagdish Singh Khehar and Congress leader in Lok Sabha Mallikarjun Kharge as members

http://www.ptinews.com/news/8310361_Del ... chief.html
Two scenarios above - selection panel cleared the name by 2-1 or by 3-0
Members are welcome to guess which side the CJI voted in both scenarios and would this preference be likely according to Congie preference or BJP preference ?
Is the three member selection panel standard practice? Why couldn't have Modi selected the CBI director himself?
Kharge himself criticized the choice of Alok Verma. Indian politics is mind boggling.

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Post by Lilo » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:17 am

hanumadu wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:54 am
Is the three member selection panel standard practice? Why couldn't have Modi selected the CBI director himself?
Kharge himself criticized the choice of Alok Verma. Indian politics is mind boggling.
If your agent is going to be appointed head of the top investigative agency and he is expected to waterdown evidence and ultimately clear your party's name in the myriad corruption scandals its neckdeep in, are you going to oppose his selection in public and make a show of it (i.e after he gets cleared ) or are you going to show your happiness by bursting crackers in your party HQ and going to town claiming that "our man" got elevated to that critical post with the help of CJI of Supreme court noless?

Anyway that appointment(of head of CBI) which always has been the prerogative of the Executive in any democracy(has been for 65 years in India - even in US FBI chief is appointed by President and cleared by senate) has been changed via the Lokpal Act (which itself was brought by congies in 2014 when they were mired deep in corruption scams and were about to demit office).While doing this Congies also ceded more longterm power to SC by bringing the CJI into the appointment process (suarly further gladdening the globalist foreign lobby which wields control over our self appointing judiciary).
Therefore a mnemonic of mine to identify BIF types since long was to see if they supported or support Lokpal Acts which seeks to bring in the BIF pasand NGO's and Judiciary into appointment of vigilance and anticorruption agencies at state and center - while further diluting the executive's powers to prosecute sikular corruption.
Another mnemonic (mentioned in post before this) to identify BIF was those who demand parliamentary "oversight" committee on RAW like SuSu et al.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by RajaRaja » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:34 am

Lilo wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:01 am
Haldiram wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:07 pm
Primus wrote:
Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:03 pm


Agree. The problem all these years was the poor state of the Indian armed forces. Bit like when we went to war with China. I have pesonally heard it from somebody involved in that conflict that the Indian soldiers were sent into battle in the freezing heights of the Himalayas with canvas shoes!

Ironical that the party and the descendants of the Iron lady who was so tough on Pak have allowed our security to lapse to this degree. If you read Nitin Gokhale's book "Securing India the Modi Way" (highly recommended, BTW), it paints a picture of India on the verge of disaster militarily with our supplies badly depleted, major weapon systems in bad need of repair/renewal and a state where we were left highly vulnerable in the event of an armed conflict with Pakistan.

The Congoons truly have to answer for a lot, but sadly, in their own schizophrenic thinking, they claim to hold the moral high ground.

Modi and AD need at least one more term to build India up to the point where we can truly hold the Pakis accountable and punish them if need be. They know this too, which is why all the efforts to prevent Modi from coming back into power.
Problem is building military strength requires higher level of budgetary allocation and this year the allocation in terms of percentage was lowest in the last 58 years. I watched several debates on TV and the retired military generals were sharp in criticism of the govt. They also graded the govt. poorly in handling Kashmir.
Bhature Bhujiawala ,
This time i see you are quite careful to not names of these "retired gernails" while as usual peddling your congi SM talking points hain ji?
You were caught last time plying K.C Singh's congie hogwash as manna from heaven - I remember then too you slunk back w/o answering why you prized that congie traitor KC Singh's opinion so much. Now you wizened up and give "their" opinions w/o naming names.Good.
https://forum.bharatganrajya.com/viewto ... 677#p13680

BTW to answer your congie criticism of Modi govt i suggest you read up below posts in Modi govt achievement thread
https://forum.bharatganrajya.com/viewto ... 124#p14121
https://forum.bharatganrajya.com/viewto ... 124#p13673

During your sikular maino gang days, IA could have fought Chicoms or Pakis for merely 10 days before your St.Antony would be forced to go with a begging bowl to Russians or Israelis for basic munitions.Now Indian forces are being equipped to fight a 30 day war and atleast basic munitions can be definitely sourced from india.
Guess it requires a certain gall to now claim defence expenditure is less just b/c the costly imports are being substituted and the GOI has subscribed to a make in india attitude.I can almost see the retired fixers of your congie system of 65 years squirming in pain as they can no longer expect the crates of imported whiskies and other regular goodies to channel the kickbacks back to your first family's offshore accounts, while keeping the forces in a stupor of import dependence.
And you are squirming here b/c they are writhing there?

Why should the name of the generals who have criticized Modi govt. on defence budget cut or his poor handling of Kashmir be important? Generals are generals.

The military budget cut was widely criticized including by some still in service. And like I said you can't build stronger military by reducing the budget.

Criticism of Modi govt. haindling of Kashmir is also valid.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 3 (Oct 2018 - )

Post by syam » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:49 am

Haldiram wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:34 am
Why should the name of the generals who have criticized Modi govt. on defence budget cut or his poor handling of Kashmir be important? Generals are generals.

The military budget cut was widely criticized including by some still in service. And like I said you can't build stronger military by reducing the budget.

Criticism of Modi govt. haindling of Kashmir is also valid.
What's wrong in naming generals? You could have named them and gave the criticism a shape. We have many generals who are in praise of Modiji. Even the folks in army are praising him.

How are we supposed to treat your criticism valid when all we see is empty gas. Criticism is valid. :rotfl:

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