The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - Oct 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by shravanp » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:33 am

Saw on tv that the tukde tukde laywer who is representing asifa, their entire gang has filed in SC to move the trial to other state. Their ‘preference’ was Chandigarh. They are pre-empting before CBI gets hold of the case

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by JohnTitor » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:22 am

The first thing Hindus need to do is stop being wannabes seeking validation from the westerner. The second thing they need to do is stay in India and work for bettering the country and pushing their cases politically, judicially etc.

You can't have true Hindus leaving India but expecting change from others. If you leave your house, it will be ransacked. First stay and protect your homes and culture.

All else is just hot air and doesn't matter. The pro-hindu / pro-india tweets sitting in a nice chair in Washington does nothing but satisfy one's ego.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by SSundar » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:59 am

shravanp wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:33 am
Saw on tv that the tukde tukde laywer who is representing asifa, their entire gang has filed in SC to move the trial to other state. Their ‘preference’ was Chandigarh. They are pre-empting before CBI gets hold of the case
Can someone explain why the family needs a lawyer? They are neither the plaintiff nor the accused. Isn't this a Government vs. Accused Yindoos case?

Looks like this woman volunteered to be their lawyer one day, turned around and said she is receiving threats a couple of days later. In the meantime, she either was never a member of the J&K Bar or was expelled.

She runs an NGO and already has a selfie with Shehla Rashid.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Chandragupta » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:22 am

SSundar wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:59 am
shravanp wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:33 am
Saw on tv that the tukde tukde laywer who is representing asifa, their entire gang has filed in SC to move the trial to other state. Their ‘preference’ was Chandigarh. They are pre-empting before CBI gets hold of the case
Can someone explain why the family needs a lawyer? They are neither the plaintiff nor the accused. Isn't this a Government vs. Accused Yindoos case?

Looks like this woman volunteered to be their lawyer one day, turned around and said she is receiving threats a couple of days later. In the meantime, she either was never a member of the J&K Bar or was expelled.

She runs an NGO and already has a selfie with Shehla Rashid.
Is there any proof that she is actually a lawyer? Or if she is a lawyer who & what is she representing since its a State vs Accused case? Has the family confirmed that she is the lawyer? What for?

I think what is happening is she is the ground contact of BIF, being a Hindu woman she can also claim to being subjected to rape & death threats by BJP type Hindus. She is not just connected with tukde tukde gang but also Indira Jaisingh.

I think she, like a vulture, descended on the scene after being instructed or roped in by the Kashmiri agencies & BIF forces as a pretty face to evoke sympathy. As usual, nobody in the media has cared to ask her the basic question - who are you representing? What is the evidence that she has received threats? I saw a picture of her standing alongside Yasin Malik (I can't be sure since picture is not clear), but if it is Yasin Malik, then all pieces in the puzzle fall into place.

It is a shame though that a KP woman is in cahoots with the same people who raped/killed/genocided her community. But then this is the story of Hindus.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Aditya_V » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:27 am

What is funny is that followers of UPA and there many rapists amoung them adivising on social Media. Take TN for example, the leader of UPA is MK STalin, who was habitual rapist who raped TV presenter Fatima Babu in the secreteriat in the presence of MLA, Govt staff police and Media. Will any of these folks first get justice for Fatima Babu before talking.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:06 am

Should Kathua trial be sent to Chandigarh, SC asks J&K government https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 791612.cms
The Supreme Court on Monday sought the J&K government’s response to a petition filed by the Kathua rape-cum-murder victim’s father, who has sought shifting the trial to Chandigarh, alleging that the surcharged atmosphere in Kathua was not conducive for a fair trial.
Granting an urgent hearing to the victim’s father, Mohd Akhtar, who filed the petition on Monday morning through advocate Sunil Fernandes, a bench of Chief Justice Dipak Misra and Justices A M Khanwilkar and D Y Chandrachud took note of the alleged threats given to lawyers Deepika Singh Rajawat and Talib Hussain to dissuade them from assisting the victim’s family in the trial. It also asked the state government to deploy policemen in plain clothes to protect the victim’s family and the lawyers.
On the plea to transfer the case from Kathua to Chandigarh, the SC sought the state’s response by April 27. The trial court has fixed the next date of hearing for April 28.

Appearing for Akhtar, senior advocate Indira Jaising said the victim’s family was fully satisfied with the “methodical and scientific manner” in which the probe was conducted by the state police’s crime branch and contested senior advocate and Panthers Party chief Bhim Singh’s demand to transfer the probe to an independent agency.

Jaising said the case was cracked on the basis of the confessional statement of a minor accused who was lodged in a juvenile home. “Security of the juvenile home where the minor accused is lodged must be made foolproof to prevent outsiders from influencing the minor,” she said. The SC accepted the plea and asked the state to beef up security at the juvenile home.

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Post by Aditya_V » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:11 am

Meanwhile,

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/mum ... 496789.ece

[Bhoiwada police said the victim, Payal Prasad, was a resident of Roshan Baug area in Bhiwandi. The police said Payal did not return after leaving her home at around 4.30 p.m. to play in a nearby ground on April 1.

The next day, her father, Mahadev Prasad, approached Bhiwandi police, who registered a case of kidnapping against unknown persons and initiated an investigation.

On April 4, residents of Roshanbaug found the decomposed, bloated body of a girl behind Mohamadiya Mosque. The arms of the child had been severed, and a few toes on the left leg were missing, sparking off fears of a black magic ritual.

Father identifies body

The police was called in and Mr. Prasad identified the body as that of his daughter. The police then added Section 302 (murder) under the Indian Penal Code in the First Information Report.

Sunil Bharadwaj, Deputy Commissioner of Police (Zone IV), Thane police, said, “We learned through local informants that Abed Sheikh, a loom worker staying in the locality, had been missing since the day Payal’s body was found. We probed the angle further, and learned that he left for his home town in Bihar. A team was sent to Bihar to pick him up and take him in for questioning.”

Mr. Sheikh was brought back to Bhiwandi and placed under arrest on Sunday night after he admitted during interrogation that he had killed Payal. Mr. Bharadwaj said, “Payal’s father runs a pan beedi shop in Bhiwandi and the accused owed him around ₹1,500. He refused to pay the money despite repeated reminders. Around two months ago, Mr. Prasad publicly assaulted Sheikh over the issue of unpaid dues. Angered over his public humiliation, Sheikh murdered Payal and dismembered her body to exact revenge on Mr. Prasad.”]

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Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:11 am

from what appears BJP top command is not ruffled by this development perhaps thinking Muslims would not vote for BJP any way and the kind of people (Indira Jaisingh) getting involved will slowly but surely be noted.
BJP is working seriously on Dalit angle and Modi was recently seen touching feet of a dalit woman and starting schemes from tribal villages.
So the real threat is not media + propaganda but dalit turning against BJP apparently.

there are dime a dozen cases of Hindu girls getting gang raped by RoPs including dalit..while it does not sound civil, it may be worth maintaining a thread on them to counter propaganda for those who take on commies on SM.

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Post by JohnTitor » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:15 am

Aditya_V wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:27 am
What is funny is that followers of UPA and there many rapists amoung them adivising on social Media. Take TN for example, the leader of UPA is MK STalin, who was habitual rapist who raped TV presenter Fatima Babu in the secreteriat in the presence of MLA, Govt staff police and Media. Will any of these folks first get justice for Fatima Babu before talking.
They follow the policy of "do as I say, not as I do" while the secular Hindus follow the policy of "do as they say, not as they do"

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Vikas » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:32 am

In all this din, we are failing to take notice the young girls are being raped and killed far too often. Maybe its due to overactive SM but state govts need to clamp down on such incidents ( although we still have Rapists from Nirbhaya episode hanging around, Thank you MiLords since BCCI and Padmavat cases are more important and so is WhatsApp message from Sibbal).
We are getting too much technical on other details but rape of young girls is too horrible for ordinary folks to ignore depite all the political tone of the narrative.

As far the woman lawyer who is a KP by birth, I feel sorry for her. Most of the KP's haven't yet understood the nature of malasi despite living with them and suffering for last 600 years. We had another one hugging Yasin Malik few months back.

PS: Just saw a post of my FB timeline where one crypto was wailing that we should not vote for Modi if Modi doesnot hang the rapists in next 72 hours.

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Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:25 am

Nirbhaya rapists have been sentenced to death by SC by hanging but apparently Tihar jail is sitting on the order , that is a low hanging fruit for Modi govt to set an example.

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Post by Chandragupta » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:45 am

Vikas wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:32 am

PS: Just saw a post of my FB timeline where one crypto was wailing that we should not vote for Modi if Modi doesnot hang the rapists in next 72 hours.

These are mostly bimbos or dhimmis who have no idea how law works. Knee jerk reactions only. A few days ago an idiot shared a propaganda pic from a Muslim page which was extolling Saudi & Islamic justice and insulting India. I asked him whether he would also like public beheadings, homosexuals thrown from rooftops, women banned from driving and cover his wife, sister & mother from head to toe in black tent? Asked him why is he in the US and not Saudi then when USA's rape rate is 10x that of India? The buffoon deleted the post and blocked me on FB. :rotfl:

Another bimbo posted a message saying similar thing that hang rapists in 24 hours so I asked her what if somebody wrongly accused her brother or husband of rape and they were hanged within 24 hours just because of accusations? Again, did not comment and just deleted the post.

I have realised that the people that are farting the loudest on SM about these incidents are anti-Modi and not fence sitters. Its best to expose them since they have no logical reasoning at all.

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Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:10 am

https://www.bhaskar.com/gujarat/ahmedab ... 53736.html
Togadia has formally joined Hardick & congress. Making plans to counter BJP in upcoming Lok Sabha election.

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Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:38 am

Ibrahim Qazi

@miqazi
Lord Nazir Ahmed rocks the British House of Lords with a call on her majesty the Queen’s Government to help end human rights violations in Indian Occupied Kashmir whereby most recently 8 years old Asifa Bano was gang raped and murdered.
Responding from British govt MP Lord Scott stated India has a robust democracy in place which takes care of human rights, besides PM Modi already has reiterated those responsible will not be spared.
http://www.republicworld.com/r-bharat/r ... kada-video
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Post by sanjayC » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:55 am

Indrad wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:10 am
https://www.bhaskar.com/gujarat/ahmedab ... 53736.html
Togadia has formally joined Hardick & congress. Making plans to counter BJP in upcoming Lok Sabha election.
This is the Arun Shourie story all over again. Hindus have a nasty habit of joining hands with the enemies of Hindus, if they are denied personal gratification by other Hindus, ,or feel slighted by other Hindus. They then try to set fire to the whole Hindu community by siding with sworn enemies of Hindus. This is a weakness of character that the race suffers from. Saw this many times in history.

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Post by Aditya_V » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:02 am

Sorry, Togodia has always been a Congress man and askign BJP to be defeated. He always potrayed Hindus as Monstors to give sound bytes to Media. He is one of the long time plants like a Dhongi Sankaracharya who always is with Congress stalwarts and Swami Swaroopanand etc.

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Post by krisna » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:25 am

Guess the kathua and unna cases has thrown some emotional atyachar on many Hindus . The truth is probabaly hidden in mountains of lies and fake news.
I have heard personally many who are happy with NaMo now dissing him and his party. Irrespective of other rapes and sundry where there is no outrage.
The common refrain is why cant bjp and its supporters do like what this bunch of "bharta tudke" ganag have done. what is stopping bjp supporters from doing it. Is it not good for the country if everyone goes against these perpetrators.
Congress does its breaking India stuff-- because it is the opposition --why cant bjp nail them. counter them.

when probed further- they all said they all love NaMo- he is the best under current circumstances. He is not corrupt, genuine love for India with no nepotism or any other bad characters which sets him apart from others inlcuding Rahul pappu. They are happy with demonetisation and gst despite bad implementation. They understand this as it will help India in the long run.

Yes they will still vote NaMo but feel very angry and emotional. If there was credible alternative they would have voted them.
IOW NaMo still has lot of personal credibility but not his party members.


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These types of cases are emotional and hits at the very basic emotions- it does not matter who is doing it. murderers have to be brought to justice.

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These are gold mine for bharta tukde gangs -- they will milk it to as long as possible. But good news is even though emotionally distraught not many are willing to change NaMo for pappu.
local elections may change flavour .
currently it is only Karnataka but doubt it will have that much impact.


Long term will the trend of showing bjp and NaMo are bad in law and order and women(especially worst).
This will take the sting out of acche din type talks of NaMo in election rallies.

Overall personally feel it is still manageable. keep quiet keep doing what is right for the country.
emotions are not known to last long for many people.
cold reality will strike them and they come to ground level.
main issue if this occurs too close to elections --can make or mar a party.

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Post by Aditya_V » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:59 am

But why cant a case be opened against all politicans for past cases?

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Post by Vikas » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:16 am

Indrad wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:25 am
Nirbhaya rapists have been sentenced to death by SC by hanging but apparently Tihar jail is sitting on the order , that is a low hanging fruit for Modi govt to set an example.
Sorry a dumb question but is it for the Jail to decide when to hang someone ?
I thought court decides on the date of hanging too. If that be the case then I think knee jerk reaction of current govt would be to hang those rapists asap.
Unfortunately, with all this Rudali act, KA looks like a lost cause for BJP now.

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Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:55 am

No. Once SC has passed order it is up to jail. Recall how Afzal Guru was hanged all of a sudden. Though a lawyer would be better off to comment on this.

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Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:10 pm

https://aajtak.intoday.in/story/delhi-h ... 97044.html
Delhi HC asks Kejriwal why he can't apologise to DP if he can to leaders. This is re manhaani case on Khujli for calling DP Thulla.

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Post by Supratik » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:50 pm

Before hanging President has to agree. Mercy petition can be sent to President who will then decide.

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Post by Indrad » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:47 pm

ATMs across the country go dry, FM Jaitley steps in to allay fears of new crisis https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 795592.cms

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Post by Sachin » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:01 pm

Indrad wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:47 pm
ATMs across the country go dry, FM Jaitley steps in to allay fears of new crisis
The most probable reason for this is; politicians withdrawing money threw their bag men from the ATMs and using it for election purposes. I had noticed this nearly six months back in my part of the woods in KA. It is a rural area and every week end ATMs ran out of cash. The banks may not have the wherewithal or interest to do any thing, but for sure there could be a way to trace the accounts from which tonnes of money gets withdrawn from certain ATM during certain days. Looks like "hoarding money" has now started quite seriously. If the "seculars" again bring up the stories of people dying in front of ATMs, BJP & Co would get hit by another IED. De.Mo problems would all be rinsed & repeated.

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Post by Gus » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:32 pm

Vikas wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:32 am
In all this din, we are failing to take notice the young girls are being raped and killed far too often. Maybe its due to overactive SM but state govts need to clamp down on such incidents ( although we still have Rapists from Nirbhaya episode hanging around, Thank you MiLords since BCCI and Padmavat cases are more important and so is WhatsApp message from Sibbal).
We are getting too much technical on other details but rape of young girls is too horrible for ordinary folks to ignore depite all the political tone of the narrative.
I am not sure that there is a sudden increase. Let's put aside the 'sounding callous and heartless' etc factors, and I say this as a dad of similar aged girl child who is horrified and terribly concerned etc.

what are the numbers, counting for population growth? I doubt that, but once we dig in, we will quickly go down the rabbit hole of what's reported and what's true in what's reported and what's convicted and then it goes into corrupt police and judiciary..

it's much easier to join the outrage for a few days and move on to next outrage...and that's what everybody settles for these days.

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