The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - Oct 2018)

[crams]

Guys, sometimes I feel that the India and Paaaakistaaan equal equal leitmotif that whites have bestowed on us is well deserved however much us nationalists detest that equivalence. Case in point is that the entire Lutyen and other eunuchs in India so consumed, so enamored by Taliban Khan and his inauguration. The euphoria over his supposed invite or non invite to ex Indian cricketers, ModiJi etc. If indeed Pakis are no match to India as we nationalists claim, why so much obsession? I mean this itself gives the game away. You throw some dog bones at India, and Indians will fall in place like slaves. What a bunch of mental midgets. I puked my gut out at that clown Navjot Singh Sidhu's fawning description of Taliban Khan, inviting himself only to see Taliban Khan kick his sorry ass and told him f!ck you, I ain't inviting you.

I mean do these pricks in India not understand how Paki nationhood operates? How can anyone be so eunuch, so cowardly that you be so enamored by your own tormentors. I can only imagine how much people in CIA, MI-5, ISI, Chincom red army etc must be laughing their asses off in the full confidence that one doesn't have to fight India with bullets. Just throw some dog bones and pep their fragile ego.

[achoudhury]

NRC debate has thrown the politics of India in very sharp relief. On one side there is array of forces batting for illegals BDs and on another side is BJP. Even so called Hindu rakshak Shiv Sena is hedging and now demanding reservation for peacefools. What a fall for the Bal Thackrey's party. This is a big slap to folks saying "but what has BJP done for Hindu causes". It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it. NRC issue should reach every nook and corner of India and BJP should make it a major poll issue. This will pay them dividends not just in WB, Assam and NE but most of major cities where BDs are crawling like rabbits.

[shravanp]

Thats why Jehadi didi is rattling like anything. She surely knows the game NRC will play out on her. All these days Beedis were living in desh, voting for commies and now TMC, with Hindus thinking about it as 'some problem'. Now that's on everybody's face. Sicular parties are quite rattled.

[chetak]

ANI Verified account @ANI

17 political parties to approach Election Commission, demanding 2019 general elections be conducted on ballot paper: Sources

3:50 AM - 2 Aug 2018

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After witnessing how the latest Pak PM came to power via ballot papers....many here are hopeful...[/quote]

[Dumal]

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/centr ... 180803.htm

Looks like the Judges' clique continues to have its way! Given his lack of seniority, this paves the way for the seculars to have strong support from the judiciary even 10-15 years down the road?

[Sachin]

It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it

Along with this we must also see a pattern emerging. There are lots of "Hindu lovers", "Core Hindus" etc. who have suddenly appeared on the horizon. When they know that the "seculars" would finish them off completely given a chance, they insist on BJP not to focus on improving the ground situation (and make it holdable), but to charge like the light brigade against the opposition (only to get decimated). The intentions of this new crowd is also very shady. BJP if it does not play its cards well will be in a position of between the Devil (seculars) and the Deep Sea ("secular" gang, masquerading as "Core Hindu" etc.). .

Looks like the Judges' clique continues to have its way! Given his lack of seniority, this paves the way for the seculars to have strong support from the judiciary even 10-15 years down the road?

My only doubt, is that why so much delay? Has there been any negotiation between the judicial establishment and the government? In such cases things cannot be really black & white.

[hanumadu]

NRC debate has thrown the politics of India in very sharp relief. On one side there is array of forces batting for illegals BDs and on another side is BJP. Even so called Hindu rakshak Shiv Sena is hedging and now demanding reservation for peacefools. What a fall for the Bal Thackrey's party. This is a big slap to folks saying "but what has BJP done for Hindu causes". It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it. NRC issue should reach every nook and corner of India and BJP should make it a major poll issue. This will pay them dividends not just in WB, Assam and NE but most of major cities where BDs are crawling like rabbits.

So NRC is not a Hindu cause? Then what is in your opinion a Hindu cause? The Assamese seem to be happy about it.

[sanjayC]

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/centr ... 180803.htm

Looks like the Judges' clique continues to have its way! Given his lack of seniority, this paves the way for the seculars to have strong support from the judiciary even 10-15 years down the road?

Shows weakness of BJP, while Congress has no problem even in threatening to bring impeachment motion against CJI ...

[prahaar]

Shows weakness of BJP, while Congress has no problem even in threatening to bring impeachment motion against CJI ...

Congress true to the opposition role is seen as shouting all the time without the ability to deliver what it demands. CJI is very much in power. BJP limitation is visible but comparison with Congress does not hold ground.

[RajaRaja]

NRC debate has thrown the politics of India in very sharp relief. On one side there is array of forces batting for illegals BDs and on another side is BJP. Even so called Hindu rakshak Shiv Sena is hedging and now demanding reservation for peacefools. What a fall for the Bal Thackrey's party. This is a big slap to folks saying "but what has BJP done for Hindu causes". It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it. NRC issue should reach every nook and corner of India and BJP should make it a major poll issue. This will pay them dividends not just in WB, Assam and NE but most of major cities where BDs are crawling like rabbits.

So NRC is not a Hindu cause? Then what is in your opinion a Hindu cause? The Assamese seem to be happy about it.

NRC is not a Hindu cause because the Assamese want all Bangladeshis who came after 1971 and their descendents born in India including Hindus expelled.

Deporting Hindus to Bangladesh can not be Hindu cause.

[chetak]

It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it

Along with this we must also see a pattern emerging. There are lots of "Hindu lovers", "Core Hindus" etc. who have suddenly appeared on the horizon. When they know that the "seculars" would finish them off completely given a chance, they insist on BJP not to focus on improving the ground situation (and make it holdable), but to charge like the light brigade against the opposition (only to get decimated). The intentions of this new crowd is also very shady. BJP if it does not play its cards well will be in a position of between the Devil (seculars) and the Deep Sea ("secular" gang, masquerading as "Core Hindu" etc.). .

Looks like the Judges' clique continues to have its way! Given his lack of seniority, this paves the way for the seculars to have strong support from the judiciary even 10-15 years down the road?

My only doubt, is that why so much delay? Has there been any negotiation between the judicial establishment and the government? In such cases things cannot be really black & white.

Maybe a deal has been worked out and if the 2 year extension of retirement age of judges comes through, it may be a game changer.

The khaki nicker wallas have quickly learned how to play the age-old congi game and may even outdo them in coming days.

If the applecart of the long standing conspiracy of the congi preprogrammed succession scam so as to always ensure that a congi pasand lot is in absolute control and are willing and able to do their bidding and also block the BJP lot at the supreme court level, can somehow be upset, then it would have been worthwhile.

The tareek pe tareek adjournment of the chidambaram and his family's cases, maran's telecom cases, A raja's 2G cases etc is a result of just such a programming scam. The CBI and ED deliberately fudging cases and ensuring that the accused are not charge sheeted is also the result of cultivating a congi pasand ecosystem to save their own skins.

[hanumadu]

NRC debate has thrown the politics of India in very sharp relief. On one side there is array of forces batting for illegals BDs and on another side is BJP. Even so called Hindu rakshak Shiv Sena is hedging and now demanding reservation for peacefools. What a fall for the Bal Thackrey's party. This is a big slap to folks saying "but what has BJP done for Hindu causes". It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it. NRC issue should reach every nook and corner of India and BJP should make it a major poll issue. This will pay them dividends not just in WB, Assam and NE but most of major cities where BDs are crawling like rabbits.

So NRC is not a Hindu cause? Then what is in your opinion a Hindu cause? The Assamese seem to be happy about it.

NRC is not a Hindu cause because the Assamese want all Bangladeshis who came after 1971 and their descendents born in India including Hindus expelled.

Deporting Hindus to Bangladesh can not be Hindu cause.

Nice spin. The majority of those illegal BDs are muslims. The demographic changed drastically in muslim favor not status quo or Hindu favor. Hindus in rest of India like it, may be not those in Assam though I doubt your claim. They are ready to accomodate BD Hindus in anyway possible, if not in Assam, some where else in India. So NRC is a very very very Hindu cause no matter what you say and Modi will get credit and votes for it.

PS. You seem to be a new avatar of Trilobite or Abhishekcc

[achoudhury]

NRC debate has thrown the politics of India in very sharp relief. On one side there is array of forces batting for illegals BDs and on another side is BJP. Even so called Hindu rakshak Shiv Sena is hedging and now demanding reservation for peacefools. What a fall for the Bal Thackrey's party. This is a big slap to folks saying "but what has BJP done for Hindu causes". It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it. NRC issue should reach every nook and corner of India and BJP should make it a major poll issue. This will pay them dividends not just in WB, Assam and NE but most of major cities where BDs are crawling like rabbits.

So NRC is not a Hindu cause? Then what is in your opinion a Hindu cause? The Assamese seem to be happy about it.

NRC is not a Hindu cause because the Assamese want all Bangladeshis who came after 1971 and their descendents born in India including Hindus expelled.

Deporting Hindus to Bangladesh can not be Hindu cause.

Not true anymore. Assamese have very much come to realize the importance of hindu bengali in Assam and are no more averse to Hindu Bengalis. They might not like it but understand their usefulness now. NRC issue is now mostly about preserving demographic composition in Assam i.e. retaining its Hindu Majority character. It is almost a race against a time and in my view 30 years too late. Like it or not, By 2030-35, it is given that Assam will be Muslim majority. BTW, 40 lac figure is too low. It could only mean two thing. 1. They could not identify all BDs or lot of BDs have moved out to greener pastures in other cities.

[Indrad]

both Nimo & Choksi are hiding in Antigua, local govt confirms.
Further Antigua govt has made claims that citizenship by investment was given to Choksi after GoI clearance.

[Rahul M]

achoudhary, that's not true. there are many oxomiya who are staunchly against settling bengali hindus in assam. see f.e popular twitter handles @rajudas & @oxomiyajiori

[RamaY]

Guys, sometimes I feel that the India and Paaaakistaaan equal equal leitmotif that whites have bestowed on us is well deserved however much us nationalists detest that equivalence. Case in point is that the entire Lutyen and other eunuchs in India so consumed, so enamored by Taliban Khan and his inauguration. The euphoria over his supposed invite or non invite to ex Indian cricketers, ModiJi etc. If indeed Pakis are no match to India as we nationalists claim, why so much obsession? I mean this itself gives the game away. You throw some dog bones at India, and Indians will fall in place like slaves. What a bunch of mental midgets. I puked my gut out at that clown Navjot Singh Sidhu's fawning description of Taliban Khan, inviting himself only to see Taliban Khan kick his sorry ass and told him f!ck you, I ain't inviting you.

I mean do these pricks in India not understand how Paki nationhood operates? How can anyone be so eunuch, so cowardly that you be so enamored by your own tormentors. I can only imagine how much people in CIA, MI-5, ISI, Chincom red army etc must be laughing their asses off in the full confidence that one doesn't have to fight India with bullets. Just throw some dog bones and pep their fragile ego.

This whining is funny at many levels crams ji. You should make a choice. Is India == Lutyens? Then you have to decide if India == Bharat? If your India is what elected Modi, then you should stop whining and just enjoy the game.

@sachin: Besides Kerala, TN and and AP are the worst impacted by the BD illegals.

[RamaY]

NRC debate has thrown the politics of India in very sharp relief. On one side there is array of forces batting for illegals BDs and on another side is BJP. Even so called Hindu rakshak Shiv Sena is hedging and now demanding reservation for peacefools. What a fall for the Bal Thackrey's party. This is a big slap to folks saying "but what has BJP done for Hindu causes". It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it. NRC issue should reach every nook and corner of India and BJP should make it a major poll issue. This will pay them dividends not just in WB, Assam and NE but most of major cities where BDs are crawling like rabbits.

Many HINOs (Hindus In Name Only) are outraging "BJP is not doing anything to Hindus" to confuse real Hindus. They defined "Govt out of temples and RTE" as core Hindu causes. But none of these idiots themselves read any Hindu Purana-Itihasa or teach them to their own kids.

The less said about their knowledge of "Temple management" the better.

I have asked some RW idiots on how they define a "Temple" and if the millions of street-corner and under-the-tree temples must come under govt control OR they just worried about the few thousand temples with large land endowments under Govt management control. More over almost all such temples are in Kerala, TN, AP, Telangana, Orissa and MahaRashtra. All these states except Maha are non-BJP governments and the Hindus there are still drinking Secular Cola, voting for regional secular parties.

Isn't this NRC in Hindu interests?

Isn't disenfranchising 40L illegal BDs from voters list? If we add WB, Delhi and other states, I am sure this number will be >3 Crore illegal voters. In 2014 elections, Congress got 10 Crore votes and TMC 2 Crore votes. 2 Crore fake voter disenfranchisement is equal to 15-30% vote loss for these two parties. You do the math.

If NRC is enforced nationwide and they are disenfranchised (forget about deportation and other big items), we will see a completely different LS in 2019.

[RamaY]

It is crystal clear that BJP may not do anything for "Hindu Causes" but other side is out there to get you. And beauty is that they are totally brazen about it

Along with this we must also see a pattern emerging. There are lots of "Hindu lovers", "Core Hindus" etc. who have suddenly appeared on the horizon. When they know that the "seculars" would finish them off completely given a chance, they insist on BJP not to focus on improving the ground situation (and make it holdable), but to charge like the light brigade against the opposition (only to get decimated). The intentions of this new crowd is also very shady. BJP if it does not play its cards well will be in a position of between the Devil (seculars) and the Deep Sea ("secular" gang, masquerading as "Core Hindu" etc.). .

Looks like the Judges' clique continues to have its way! Given his lack of seniority, this paves the way for the seculars to have strong support from the judiciary even 10-15 years down the road?

My only doubt, is that why so much delay? Has there been any negotiation between the judicial establishment and the government? In such cases things cannot be really black & white.

+1.

I hear that Tapan Ghosh of Hindu Samhati went Rogue (like other RWingers) and is now in the bed of Mamata Benarjee.

I said this many times before.

Any Hindu who puts their sub-identities such as tradition, region, language, caste etc above Hinduism/Bharat will and must suffer horribly.

Note: There are no Hindu Interests that are detrimental to Bharatiya Interests and there are no Bharatiya Interests that are detrimental to Hindu Interests. Hinduism = Bharat = Hinduism.

[RamaY]

NRC is not a Hindu cause because the Assamese want all Bangladeshis who came after 1971 and their descendents born in India including Hindus expelled.

Deporting Hindus to Bangladesh can not be Hindu cause.

Thats half-truth.

NRC is to take-out ALL non-Assamese from Assam. That is True. But the amended citizenship act will allow Hindu immigrants to formally settle in Assam; as in all other states.

No need to mix them.

[achoudhury]

achoudhary, that's not true. there are many oxomiya who are staunchly against settling bengali hindus in assam. see f.e popular twitter handles @rajudas & @oxomiyajiori

As I said Assamese elite and even proletariat dont like Bengali speaking hindus much as they think that bengalis usurped on their rights and privileges and that resentment will always be there. But realization has dawned upon them that without Hindu Bengalis, they risk loosing everything. Sangh and BJP has assiduously tried to bring this rapproachment and at least now there is understanding on political unity. This is the reason that out of Ali , kuli and bengali, kuli and bengali has moved to BJP as well as Assamese and tribals. I think opinions of rajudas and oxomiyajiori is either just political jockeying or out of touch with ground realities. Average Assamese is shit scared of Assam tuning into next Kashmir.

[RamaY]

achoudhary, that's not true. there are many oxomiya who are staunchly against settling bengali hindus in assam. see f.e popular twitter handles @rajudas & @oxomiyajiori

No different from any other state. There are many in AP, TN, Kerala, Maharashtra, KTaka etc who are against non-locals.

West Bengal polity has been like Turkey (that is facilitating illegal immigration into Europe) all these decades. They became a willing conduit of BD illegals into other states. Now they cant ask for fair game.

WB need to clean itself first before asking for anything from others.

[KL Dubey]

Meanwhile Amit Shah takes the attack on illegal BDs directly to Kolkata. This is all part of a coordinated plan. I would not be surprised if the next NRC will be for WB. Any guesses on what number of WB population are illegals ?

All I can say is that if such a scheme is actually implemented, there would be severe labour shortage in KL .

Could be a blessing in disguise since "gelf" fellas will find it less attractive to dump money into real estate in KL, and labor from India will find it less attractive to go to gelf and instead will find work in KL or other places in India with "severe labor shortage".

[KL Dubey]

Isn't disenfranchising 40L illegal BDs from voters list? If we add WB, Delhi and other states, I am sure this number will be >3 Crore illegal voters. In 2014 elections, Congress got 10 Crore votes and TMC 2 Crore votes. 2 Crore fake voter disenfranchisement is equal to 15-30% vote loss for these two parties. You do the math.

If NRC is enforced nationwide and they are disenfranchised (forget about deportation and other big items), we will see a completely different LS in 2019.

Absolutely. Deporting these fellows is a future question, but the need of the hour is to remove illegals from voter rolls. This will dramatically change election results in a number of states.

[RajaRaja]

NRC is not a Hindu cause because the Assamese want all Bangladeshis who came after 1971 and their descendents born in India including Hindus expelled.

Deporting Hindus to Bangladesh can not be Hindu cause.

Thats half-truth.

NRC is to take-out ALL non-Assamese from Assam. That is True. But the amended citizenship act will allow Hindu immigrants to formally settle in Assam; as in all other states.

No need to mix them.

You need to update yourself, center has shelved (for now ?) citizenship amendment bill after protest from Assam. The Assamese don't want the BD muslims, but they don't want the Hindus either, that is what the protest against citizenship amendment bill was all about as that would have allowed the Hindus to stay .

[RamaY]

You need to update yourself, center has shelved (for now ?) citizenship amendment bill after protest from Assam. The Assamese don't want the BD muslims, but they don't want the Hindus either, that is what the protest against citizenship amendment bill was all about as that would have allowed the Hindus to stay .

We are talking about two different things.

1. The bill Assam is against of

The Real Reason People In Assam Are Against The Citizenship (Amendment) Bill, 2016

What The Citizenship Amendment Bill, 2016, Says
The Citizenship Amendment Bill, 2016, grants residence and citizenship to illegal migrants belonging to the Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi, Christian or other religious communities coming from neigbouring countries (mostly from Afghanistan, Bangladesh or Pakistan) According to the bill, those migrants who arrived in India deported who arrived in India on or before December 31, 2014, cannot be deported or imprisoned.

The proposed bill also makes the required changes so that these people can be made eligible for citizenship. It also specifies that the minimum number years of residency in India to apply for citizenship should be lessened from at 11 to six years for such people. Interestingly, the bill’s provisions do not seem to extend to illegal Muslim migrants, as of now. Neither does it talk about other minority communities in the neighbouring countries, such as Jews, Bahais etc.

2. The bill I am talking about

90 Hindus from Pakistan get Indian citizenship


As many as 90 Hindus from Pakistan, who had migrated to the city years ago, were awarded Indian citizenship by the district authorities at a function held here on Friday. District Collector Vikrant Pandey handed over the certificates of Indian citizenship, issued in accordance with the provisions of the Citizenship Act, 1955, to the 90 applicants. “In 2016, the Centre had decentralised the process of issuing citizenship to the minority communities, such as the Hindus and the Sikhs, of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan,” Pandey told reporters.

Through a gazette notification issued in December 2016, the district collectors of Ahmedabad, Gandhinagar and Kutch in Gujarat were given powers to confer Indian citizenship to the applicants from these communities living in Gujarat, he added. “With today’s tally of 90, Ahmedabad becomes a leader among all the districts in the country in awarding such citizenship since the new arrangement came into effect,” Pandey said.

“Since 2016, the Ahmedabad district collectorate has awarded citizenship to 320 people. No other district in the country has awarded these many certificates of citizenship. Ninety per cent of the 320 applicants were from Pakistan, while the rest were from Bangladesh,” he added. The collector said since these people were now Indian citizens, they could apply for Aadhaar, passport and various other benefits. “The names of these citizens will also be included in the electoral rolls,” he added. Those who were awarded citizenship today thanked the administration and expressed joy for finally being able to call themselves “Indian”.

We cannot and should not mix NRC with Bengali/Bangladesh Hindus.

Why can't WB take these Bengali Hindus from Bangladesh and get them into voters lists? This is where I go on tangent to put the blame squarely on WB Hindu polity, which is Hindu In Name Only (HINO) and are in fact anti-Bharat as much as other Seculars like Communists and C-Seculars. They exist all over Bharat (The network is pan-indian and flourished during British Raj) but WB HINOs are worst because they are a border state.