The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by chetak » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:10 pm

really cold vibes.


Very interesting: no smile from the EAM, who is almost always smiling in photos. The conversation was ‘open and candid’ - diplospeak for throwing things - on ‘outstanding issues’, which is nothing positive. India clearly showing that it’s going to walk the talk here.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:35 am

chetak wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:43 am
saurabh wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:10 am
Muns, I don't think they stand anywhere. They are not even in the race. They are just harming their grandpa's political party. because they both shares the same vote bank
this is a smart play by the BJP

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By presenting 57 MLAs (10 from JPP & 7 independents) to Haryana governor, CM @mlkhattar has reduced BJP’s dependence on both. Without Dushyant Chautala he has 47. Without independents he has 50.
It seems that thanks to Amit Shahji, coalition politics with BJP is the head always seems to come to play. The opposition simply does not have a chance with regard to what he decides. It does however worry me that only leaders seem to be perhaps losing some of the touch with today's youth. Dushyant, being young seem to energize the Jat youth voter base. Same thing can be said for Aditya Thakeray. In any case BJP has bought itself another five years with regard to Haryana. Things can always change in the interim. Only thing now is the capital over the next few months.

Also it seems that Shiv Sena wants to create more pressure on the BJP with regard to Maharashtra. I don't understand why the BJP only wanted to contest 160 seats out of the 220+ that it did so before. They would've needed 120+ majority to minimize the effect of the Sena. However they agreed to only contest 160 out of which the one 105. As Fadnavis mentioned, pretty good strike rate. However they are now it seems at the mercy of what the Shiv Sena would want.
Aditya Thackeray seems to have Worli well under his belt.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by chetak » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 am

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:44 am

Shiv Sena seems to be playing hardball. From what they've managed to show of Mumbai, I'm actually surprised that they have gained as many votes as they have. People are still crying about all of the portholes created. I don't see how they can ever make it on any kind of national scale. It's unfortunate that the BJP decided to no contest the amount of seats that they did. Previously from what I can understand they contested over 220 seats, but this time they decided in agreement with the Shiv Sena to only contest around 160 seats. This is really costs them as it means that they could never really achieve majority on their own even though as Fadnavis would say it achieve greater strike rate.

There is a outside chance that the ship Sena could form up with the Congress and the NCP to form government. I would encourage such a formulation to really show how far the Shiv Sena is willing to fall to ally with anti-Hindu parties such as the Congress and the NCP. This would effectively serve as their deathknell.
The Shiv Sena then can never thereafter claimed to be anything resembling a Hindu party.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by saurabh » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:47 am

Today Delhi government has launched odd even third time in Delhi but do you think people really want this? For that I talked to many delhi people. They are thinking that government should find some more innovative ideas on this. Government is blaming on Haryana and Punjab for Parali but today NASA has issued a image that very less Burning incident are there. Government is not taking any actions on the coal factories. Even the factories in the residential areas. Government has to promote electric cars. People told that it has been a advertisement government they are spending so much on the advertising. They are doing everything for elections. They are increasing freebies. He has not fulfilled his promises while it comes to buses and cctv camera’s. lots of false promises are their like free wifi still pending. Overall I think government should focus on the issues and trying to solve them rather than blaming others.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by chetak » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:07 pm

Some countries are merely putting a tempered glass cover on the chinese made cell phone display and are re exporting the fully chinese made cell phone to India as a "value added" product "originating" from their countries thus incurring zero duty.

This is merely one example.

This is how the hans are screwing with us.



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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by vishvak » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:01 pm

Today Delhi government has launched odd even third time in Delhi but do you think people really want this?
Usually, it was something like
Pollution > ban on crackers > continue ous literature and propaganda over years on festival

Now it is just random since this happend after festival, just so some people can make propaganda.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:48 am

Shock news coming out last night with the announcement in the next 20 minutes. Honestly this year has seen everybody's BP go up at least by 10 standard systolic points. Sustained blood pressures all around right now. Can't imagine what this would mean for over a billion people. Government is trying its very best to calm the tension but the tension is palpable no doubt.

I only hope the Supreme Court serves to write some justice for the genocide that Hindus have had to face over at least 500 years. How many temples were broken down and built upon. How many pujaris died trying to protect objects of love and veneration. How many Murtis might have been smashed across half a millennia.
How many acts of vandalism as well as desecration. How many years did the symbol of the Babri Masjid, show its tyranny by being built on the very place that Shri Ram came to the world.

Perhaps none of the above really does matter. After all the idea of Hindu India I hope will continue no matter what the verdict. Naysayers, converts and those belonging to the Abraham's faith will no doubt continue to attack Indians as well as Hindus for any positive decision in their favor.

I await with baited breath.

Jai Shri Ram, Jai Hanuman.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:45 am

What a fantastic decision. The Supreme Court has decided to go along with the archaeological survey of India and showed and taken the ground reality so to speak that a Mandir preexisted the mosque.
The dream of close to a billion Indians has been realized. Another great thank you to the NDA government led under its great leadership of Modi and Shah. On the same day the Kartarpur corridor gets opened as well.
Muslims get a Masjid on 5 acres anywhere else. However it's already seems that the AIMPB will dispute this as well. However the Supreme Court's decision is final and are mandir trust is to be established within three months.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by vishvak » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:54 pm

Muslims get a Masjid on 5 acres anywhere else
Are you sure about this, for pseudos are expert in trying to turn tables. Why is babri mosque needed? Must not be such questions asked to know reasons. After all Hindu is fighting and answering legality for more than 1000 years.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by chetak » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:15 pm

‘Taseer concealed his father was a Pakistani’



‘Taseer concealed his father was a Pakistani’

Abhinandan Mishra
November 9, 2019,

No ‘other reason’ for cancellation of the writer’s OCI status.


NEW DELHI: It was the Atal Bihari Vajpayee-led BJP government in July 2000 that had first given the Person of Indian Origin (PIO) card to writer Aatish Taseer. The PIO card scheme for foreigners of Indian origin having foreign passport was introduced by the Government of India on 30 March 1999.

In his application that was submitted at the Foreigners’ Regional Registration Office (FRRO), Delhi, Taseer had not mentioned the name of his father, official sources who have accessed his application have told The Sunday Guardian.

Subsequently, when on 9 January 2015, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) withdrew the PIO scheme, all the PIO card holders automatically became Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) cardholders. Taseer, 38, is the son of veteran Indian journalist Tavleen Singh and Pakistani politician Salman Taseer who was assassinated in Islamabad by his own bodyguard in January 2011 for indulging in “blasphemy”.

Informed government sources have told The Sunday Guardian that it was wrong to say that Taseer’s OCI status was canceled for other reasons (read, for writing anti-Narendra Modi articles) rather than merit.

“The PIO application form did not require the applicant to mention the details of both his mother and father. Taseer did not mention his father’s name in the application form when he first applied for PIO status. When it was detected (this year) that his father was a Pakistani national, he was served notice and then the OCI status was canceled. Hundreds of OCIs are canceled every year for different reasons, but Taseer’s case caught media attention because of his family background,” an official said.

As per December 2018 data, there are about 1.31 crore NRIs and 1.78 crore PIOs residing in 208 countries.

Responding to what explained the almost 17-year-old delay in discovering that Taseer had “hidden” information in his PIO application, the official said action was taken as and when the inaccuracies were discovered. “It is wrong to attribute motive to the particular action. This is a bonafide action, something which is taken very regularly,” he said.

The Sunday Guardian reached out to Taseer for his response, but no response was received till the time the story went to press.

Earlier, the MHA, on Thursday, through its spokesperson, took to Twitter to state that Taseer had become ineligible to hold an OCI card as the card cannot be issued to any person whose parents or grandparents are Pakistanis. The MHA stated that Taseer had hidden the fact that his father was a Pakistani national. As per the Citizenship Act, if the OCI cardholder is obtained by means of fraud, false representation or concealment of any material fact, the said registration is canceled and the person holding the card is also blacklisted and not allowed future entry into India.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by chetak » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:37 am

the muslims, the britshits, the commies, naxals, and the conversion jehadi BIF have been following the "broken window" theory to constantly vilify, demean, distort and abuse the Hindus and Hinduism.

They have reached such a stage that they refuse to accept the SC verdict that has proved that indeed there was a (very conveniently worded!!) "non islamic structure" underneath the babri mosque.

they are also now slyly pushing the canard that the so called non islamic structure may have already been in ruins before some joker called mir baqi, a wandering moghul general chanced upon it and in a sudden fit, an uncontrollable urge, so to say, to build a mosque atop these very ruins seized him and he then piously did his islamic duty.


This is the only article that chronicles the civilizational pain and unshakeable determination of the Hindus to evict these scoundrels from a temple they had usurped and destroyed half a millennia ago.


Why Didn’t Hindus Give Up Ram Mandir?


Why Didn’t Hindus Give Up Ram Mandir?

What do you say of a people who carry on a movement over a piece of land for over half a millennium? What explains that they neither forgot nor any amount of atrocities made them give up their claims on the land?

r.mitra@indiafacts.org' Rajat Mitra
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What do you say of a people who carry on a movement over a piece of land for over half a millennium? What explains that they neither forgot nor any amount of atrocities made them give up their claims on the land? That Mughal rule, Colonial rule, oppression and genocidal violence had no deterrence to their hope that one day they will regain it back.

The Ram Mandir perhaps is the only example in human history when a people struggled and fought for a period of over five hundred years to regain a piece of land from their invaders who had destroyed one of their holiest spots and thought they had exterminated their religion.

The Hindus simply didn’t give up. They didn’t accept defeat in the face of overwhelming odds, most important when their own historians were not on their side. Even though they felt discouraged and heartbroken during the long Mughal and Colonial rule when power was not in their hands, invaders who tried to exterminate their religion and their civilization, they held on tenaciously to their symbols of hope and never let despair overtake them. How do we explain it?

Welcome to the new Hindu. A one who is emerging from the ashes of history, from the dark woods of despair as the poets called it. He is claiming his human rights that were taken away from him. It is a spirit that I would call unparalleled in the history of mankind. Mocked and persecuted like a slave, told that he is a savage and no better, intolerant and cruel, he today proved everyone wrong with their prophecies falling to the dust. Has the time finally come for the Hindu and his civilization to assert himself?

I believe so and I am not the only one who dreams like that today. I believe we symbolize one of the most valuable lessons to mankind and that is to never give up hope.

The Hindu has gone through a genocidal violence that almost exterminated his existence. It is denied by the world. Period. He has been enslaved, tortured and brutalized where his Islamic and Christian invaders tried to annihilate his civilization. It is a miracle how he adapted and navigated through all those hardships and adversities. After centuries of oppression, he is finally telling the world why he continued to resist untill his last breath in the face of historical oppression.

To me, the credit for the verdict on Ram Janma Bhumi goes to the unknown Hindu. The unknown ‘kar sevak’ who braved bullets, the sadhus who bore the lathis, the unknown man from the village who saved money to send a brick for the temple. It is they who kept the flame of the movement alive, hoping for the day when Shri Ram will be restored to his birthplace.

The temple when it is built will represent and stand for much more than a temple. It will be a monument to man’s courage in the face of religious persecution. It will bring hope to generations who may feel despondent about their oppression. It will be a symbol for the persecuted minorities and majorities worldwide to struggle and regain their lost heritage. To all Hindus barring a few, it will be a symbol of devotion, hope, and resilience.

To some it may become a symbol of shame, that is if they have that in the first place, an atonement, a reminder of what they ought to have done being a Hindu but never did so. They were the ones who distorted history, fought against the truth of the excavations.

The Hindu society has come a long way since the first temples were destroyed by the Islamic invaders centuries ago. Our society has been in grief, traversing from denial to rage to bargaining and rationalization as Elizabeth Kubler Ross explained it half a century ago in explaining her stages of grief. The grief has made the Hindu society stronger, more resilient and able to withstand the adversities that colonialism, persecution, and atrocities bring along with it.

It is time we acknowledge this resilience in our own. It runs in our blood and bones. We may have a thousand faults in ourselves as people, some real, some imaginary, but we need to still tell ourselves, our children and our future generations that we are a people who simply don’t give up when faced with obstacles. That there are very few people like us possibly with the exception of Jewish people. That our Vedas, our books have left something permanent, a residue, however small, within us that psychologically prepares us, ready to bounce back with each fall despite a thousand obstacles that may come in the way. It didn’t make us feel conceited and egoistic, but perhaps a little naive that we fail to acknowledge the greatness of our civilization that our ancestors created and one that may be forgotten.

What is unique about the Ram Janma Bhumi site? I believe one of the things that set it apart from any other place is that apart from the birthplace of Sri Ram, it is a sacred space with a memory that didn’t die and showed it can never be destroyed.

Many years ago I had gone and knelt in front of the Ram Janma Bhoomi. A strange feeling had taken over me. It was as if the space was telling me ‘I don’t have to justify my existence to you or anyone. I am there in your heart. It is you, who have to justify the sacrifice of those who died in my name’.

In that moment, I felt it was as if the space just didn’t tell me the story of a temple destroyed but the entire story of Hinduism.

I had realized what the ancient Hindus, my ancestors would have felt hundreds of years ago before their temples were destroyed, before they began to live in terror feeling the threat of conversion.

The Ram Janma Bhumi trial apart from one of the longest-running trials of history is also important for another reason. It represents a crime against humanity, a genocidal crime whose purpose was to erase the very existence of a people, their religion and culture. The tragic fact is it continues through other methods today in the form of mass conversions and the building of numerous religious structures that do not preach co-existence between faiths.

Many years ago I had visited a concentration camp in Germany. Outside the gate, there was a sign written ‘never again’. Showing me a large number of school children, my guide told me it was meant for the future generations so that no one ever dares to do it again. Should we also not have museums next door? Should we not create a memorial to the unknown ‘kar sevak’ who gave his life? Maybe only then it will tell our children the true story of what it means to uphold our freedom. Shouldn’t Ram temple, Somnath temple be the places where history should be taught to all our children so that they begin to say ‘never again’?

‘Never Again’ may be two most important words that we need to learn if we have to preserve our civilization. I ask that we start teaching it to our future generations.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Aditya_V » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:49 am

Any idea where on BGRF/BRF are Shiv Sena's Shennigans being discussed?

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Post by Muns » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:40 am

Should be right here... :mrgreen:

Shenanigans is right. A really disgraceful situation with regard to looking for allies and those who are closely linked to the Vatican as well involved with missionary activities to the highest level.

From what I read before, the BJP agreed to contest less number of seats of 160 as opposed to their 120 plus before and hence only got 105.
The agreement during Bal Thakeray reign was for whoever got the most seats would get the chief Minister's post. It's a joke to get 56 and then claim 50% posts and CM Spot as well.
Utterly disappointed with the Sena.

Truth is they are still increasingly trying the real best to hold on to some relevance. With achieving the Impossible over the last couple of years with Ayodhya and Article 370, among other things, the Sena is left wondering what exactly its place will be over the next few years with the BJP essentially promoting the same ideology and having a lot better success.

For the Sena to ally with missionaries is something that I can't forget or even in the short term forgive...

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Post by Muns » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:56 am

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