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The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:24 am

Top news today includes BJP hopefully holding the vote in Karnataka. Other things that are trending include Ishrat Jahan a Muslim lady who's apparently likes to go and visit Shri Hanumanji Mandir and listen to Hanuman Chalisa.
Seems to be trending on twitter. I'm all for it. Perhaps over time, we may see more like her who are open to come out and sing praises of Ram and Hanuman. However by Islamic law what she has done is commit "Shirk".
Let us see what some of the Mullahs in Indiana around the world have to say for this. However, what she has done should be commended and encouraged.

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Post by chetak » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:50 am

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More and more facts coming to light in #RichaBharti case. FIR registered illegally by a Muslim officer not authorised to register it, complaint forged by himself faking a non-registered Muslim organisation, and of course the stupidities by the Magistrate - Arun Upadhyay, IPS(R):



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Post by Muns » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:12 am

You guys ever notice how every time there is a crisis situation all the Indian Christians descend on the area to try and make maximum use of such a situation. This is been tried and tested method throughout the decades since Rome was under Christian attack. Story goes how Christians seem to use opportunities for crisis and to some extent even natural calamities to turn up as an opportune time to preach the gospel. During such a time of crisis when one's convictions are tested is the opportune time for Christians to spread their faith. This is a long and tested time over a millennia of history. Why am I bringing this up? Well it goes to show that in such an unfortunate event of Adivasis getting shot down by some @#$%$#@ of a human and potentially a psychopath who in the Indian scheme of justice will face justice, i.e. jailed for an eternity........ Christians like Priyanka Gandhi and Derek O'Brien now of the TMC find this as an opportune moment to spread the faith.

When will India and Christians get that we are on to their plan. Natural calamities and crisis situations are and not to be understood potential situations for conversion.
Whatever happened is a horrible situation but likely the situation of a psychopath who in a moment of complete anger and delusion acted out to kill poor Adivasis.....
Yogi Adityanath has done well to prevent the travel of both Priyanka Gandhi and Derek O'Brien to such a situation. It has been the bedrock of Christianity and missionaries spread to turn up in the period of crisis when all hope is lost and to engage in brainwashing for their own benefit in the life thereafter.

Adivasis, are Hindus and perhaps even the your original Hindus for which over decades, their culture has contributed to the jataka and Hitopadesha from which even aesop took inspiration. The murder that took place will be dealt with in an Indian system of law and the murder shall be jailed. Simple as that.

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Post by Muns » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:58 am

On another note, we tried to get an opinion video as soon as we can on the Ishrat Jahan (not encounter case), but one who decides to worship Hanumanji by reading the Chalisa. I do believe that for Muslims to totally integrate, they would need to forgo their own values ie "Shirk" .However I do realize that this is a pipe dream. It is clearly against what Muhammad believed. In this case, Ishrat Jahan is worse than Takfir.... She is one who has really left Islam and perhaps is one of many Indians were making a voice to come out and do so. They can no space for Shirk in Islam.... It is the very core of the faith.
Ishrat Jahan is no more muslim..... Let's try to understand this.... She is an apostate. She will be treated as such by the Islamic world. It is our duty to try and embrace her in whatever capacity that we can to try to make an example.

To some extent the video below is an attempt for what we have tried to achieve.

Who is stopping Ishrat Jahan from worshipping Hanumanji in Bengal ?

https://www.india-aware.com/featured/tr ... a-recital/

I'm sure Saurabh will post if you have any questions for him on how to improve the videos.

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Post by crams » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:22 pm

MunsJi, have you noticed something else trending? In the boondocks of UP, there was an unfortunate orgy of killing between tribals and some other caste. In UP, as is the case in many tribal areas of India, this happens. Its a socio-economic human tragedy.

Immediately, Priyanka Bimbo with a lot of time and money at her command decided to make a tourist stop at the scene of killing apparently to commiserate with the victims. Sensing her political opportunism, YogiJi put a stop. And this drama is now being spun the slaves of the Italian dynasty as Priyanka having arrived. Priyanka shows empathy and love and affection to the victims while Yogi/Modi don't care. The best example is that bloody smirking Aarti Jerath who will clean dynasty toilets without even being asked was narrating how much Priyanka has been thinking about people's problems post 5/23 and this UP vulture tourism is another example of her statesmanship and how like Indira Gandhi she will lead dynasty's revival. The amount of wet dreams and sycophancy is breathtaking.

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Post by Muns » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:50 pm

Hi Cram,

Absolutely, that was what else trying to infer in my post as above. Cleaned up a few spelling mistakes to make it perhaps a little bit more readable. For whatever it's worth, Yogi I feel is a great job by preventing the travel of Priyanka and Derek O Brien to such sites. As chief minister, it was incumbent upon him to make sure that he was the first one thereafter properly assessing some of the initial facts. Already a couple of arrests have been made. He has completely removed the wind from the sails of such evangelists.
He has even gone on to say that the prime accused in the case Yagya Dutta is part of the SP party and his brother is part of the BSP. Crocodile tears by Yogi Adityanath is absolutely true.

However this is not the first time that it will go on. We have always seen that during such crisis periods, they seem to turn up as they have always done throughout the centuries to see if they can confuse an already fragile mind.
Time to see how we can add more strength to the ghar wapsi movement perhaps?

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Post by Muns » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:47 am

Another propaganda scam it seems against Pragya Thakur, having been elected Is she supposed to get back to back breaking work or really see how she can efficiently improve the logistics of the Swacch Bharat program. Of course the first person to try and retweet this publicly is brother-in-law to Robert Vadra, Tehseen Poonawalla. I wonder where his agenda truly lies?

No, Sadhvi Pragya Thakur did not insult menial cleaning jobs, this is what she meant

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Post by chetak » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:59 pm

Blame discord among Congress leaders for crisis in Karnataka


Blame discord among Congress leaders for crisis in Karnataka


If the governments in Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan were to fall or see serious threats, then nobody is to be blamed save the Congress itself.


Abhijit Iyer-Mitra

It seems the Karnataka government is going to fall, and fall quite soon. Whispers suggest that Madhya Pradesh will be next, followed by Rajasthan. Invariably the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) will be blamed and the usual hysterical dirges suitable disguised as ‘op-eds’ rhyming with ‘murder of democracy’ will start. What this does, is hide the fact that the internal churn within the Indian National Congress has more to do with what’s happening than the BJP.

To start, the Congress-Janata Dal(Secular) alliance was never going to work. The bigger partner (the Congress) ceding the chief minister’s post to the smaller partner (JDS) was tactical genius, but a strategic blunder. It was never going to fly for long with ambitious people such as former Chief Minister Siddaramaiah. To give one a foreign policy analogy, it was much like Mao Tse Tung, resenting being forced to play second fiddle to Nikita Khrushchev after Stalin’s death, leading invariably to the Sino-Soviet split.

Obviously the Congress lost no opportunity to boss over its ostensible boss HD Kumaraswamy; the lèse-majesté driving the latter to cry in public. Honestly, you can’t make a grown man cry and not expect him to have the daggers out for you.
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The abysmal showing in the recent Lok Sabha elections only confirmed what everyone knew: that the Congress’ and JDS’ vote bases were fundamentally incompatible and forming a government together didn’t ensure vote transference from one to the other. All up the government was a stillborn, administratively, politically and more importantly in interpersonal terms in that it set off internal resentment within both parties.

The second issue is how the Congress being an agglomeration of chieftains is seeing fierce intra-party fighting, now exacerbated over scarce resources. In Karnataka this points towards one man — Siddaramaiah, who still hasn’t gotten used to not being Chief Minister.

If bullying Kumaraswamy wasn't enough, Siddaramaiah has been playing a double game, convinced that he can strain the JDS to the point that it cedes the chief minster’s chair to him. To this end he has been alienating party colleagues on the one hand and on the other, many claim in private conversations, that the rebel Congress MLA’s have been instigated by him as part of his strategy of ‘permanent tension’.

DK Shivakumar is the one man who has put the party first but his best efforts have been thwarted by Siddaramaiah’s mischief, who is jealous that Shivakumar may make him redundant. The Congress state president Dinesh Gundurao is by all accounts unable to crack the whip on this one-sided feud.

Indeed the Karnataka infighting pattern rhymes in both Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan.

In Madhya Pradesh, the differences between Chief Minister Kamal Nath and party leader Jyotiraditya Scindia have come to the fore after the electoral defeat in the Lok Sabha elections. Scindia though is not entirely to blame given that Nath focused all his attention and resources on getting his son elected rather than ensuring a party victory. Rajasthan is no different. Smarting over not being made Chief Minister, Sachin Pilot essentially sat out the elections with many rumours doing the rounds that he asked his loyalists to help the BJP during the Lok Sabha polls. This situation was compounded by Ashok Gehlot (much like Kamal Nath) focusing on his own son’s parliamentary constituency and ignoring the rest of the state.

In all three states — Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan — infighting and internal sabotage have played a far greater role than the BJP.

Finally, while intra-state dynamics are important, there’s the national level churn happening affecting what happens in the states. Today, much like in 1977, the vast chunk of Congress MPs come from the south with Kerala being the single biggest block. This has morphed into a North-South divide with the south wanting its share in the national pie, a pie in which it remains almost entirely ignored.

Given their relative importance within the party, southern apparatchiks are manoeuvring for a shift in the balance of power to them within the AICC, away from the North Indian heavyweights. To be fair there is no sense of a “unified south” but rather an agglutination of the desires of individual southern heavyweights. Like all political fights, this involves much backstabbing, betrayal and working to weaken the party in order to increase ones relative strength.

All put, if the Congress governments in Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan were to fall or see serious threats, then nobody is to be blamed save the Congress itself. ‘Opportunistic’ is an overused word in politics, which is after all the art of opportunity and would be a monumental dereliction of duty on the part of the BJP to not exploit this. As they say, “fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me”, and so with these three states, the shame will entirely be the Congress’.


Abhijit Iyer-Mitra is a defence economist and senior fellow at Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies, New Delhi. Twitter: @iyervval. Views are personal.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by chetak » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:02 pm

crams wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:22 pm
MunsJi, have you noticed something else trending? In the boondocks of UP, there was an unfortunate orgy of killing between tribals and some other caste. In UP, as is the case in many tribal areas of India, this happens. Its a socio-economic human tragedy.

Immediately, Priyanka Bimbo with a lot of time and money at her command decided to make a tourist stop at the scene of killing apparently to commiserate with the victims. Sensing her political opportunism, YogiJi put a stop. And this drama is now being spun the slaves of the Italian dynasty as Priyanka having arrived. Priyanka shows empathy and love and affection to the victims while Yogi/Modi don't care. The best example is that bloody smirking Aarti Jerath who will clean dynasty toilets without even being asked was narrating how much Priyanka has been thinking about people's problems post 5/23 and this UP vulture tourism is another example of her statesmanship and how like Indira Gandhi she will lead dynasty's revival. The amount of wet dreams and sycophancy is breathtaking.

the family of RPN Singh, the ex congi minister is involved in this dispute.

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Post by Muns » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:56 am

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Post by Muns » Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:00 am

Sometimes, a picture says a thousand words. I will however try to see if I can reduce the size of these images.
It has become a Da*& circus with what is going on with Congress delays. You would think that this would've been over by now. How many days could they be debating the same Da^% thing over again. What is the whole point of Kumaraswamy delaying the inevitable?
Hopefully this will get done in the next few hours.

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Post by Muns » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:37 am

Guys lots of going on for the last couple of days. Actually traveling so I haven't been able to post as I usually do. Top trends for me over the last couple of days has been Harbhajan Singh and the vicious backlash he got for trying to promote the Chandrayaan mission. Plainly Ridiculous by the pseudo secular media. Yediyurappa seems to have changed his name for chief minister in taking the oath today. Not really sure why he would want to do that?

Also I'm not sure whether the report on NDTV is actually true of ten thousand troops moving to Kashmir. If that is the case then there is definitely some kind of low-level Insurgency that is going on or Pakistan must be planning on something across the border. That's a huge Battalion to shift over. Ajit Doval it seems was also recently in Kashmir for some concern.

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Post by Muns » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:55 am

Too much action I feel on this Unnao rape case. I don't doubt this Sengar guy may be guilty, but honestly this a full on media trial. I'm not really sure if even one witness has been brought with any real substance. He is already been suspended from the BJP. However, the most vociferous shouting on social media sites seems to be coming from Priyanka Gandhi about expelling Sengar from the party.
Is there any real evidence in the case? I understand that court cases in India can take forever to really get any justice. However vigilante justice on social media networks as well as NDTV does not really count for justice either for the family.

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Post by Muns » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:00 am

Over the last couple of days, Ram Rahim Singh has been regularly trending on twitter. His followers still seem to be quite active in social media networks even with him in jail. Still quite surprising with him having a lifetime sentence. Apparently his ashram was turned into some form of ghost town. Surprising however his followers still have a very active social presence.

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Post by Muns » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:07 am

Couple of interesting developments supposed to happen today via the Supreme Court. We may yet see another extension when it comes to Ayodhya. I really do not foresee the Supreme Court taking a stern action when it comes to trying to really resolve the issue. They will continue to pass the buck I feel at least for another few months. Let's see what they have to say today.
Hopefully we won't be "magnanimous"in giving away yet another cultural heritage.

It looks like the BJP had to finally drop Sengar from the party. Once the Supreme Court intervened they would've had a hard time really defending his case. I'm sure the guy is guilty but it should have really gone to trial and had the decision first. What really happened was a massive media trial resulting in forced expulsion from the party I feel. BJP, really just had to cut its losses.
Better late than never I guess.

The other really idiotic thing is this Zomato episode which really seems to be dominating the Twitter space. Zomato is try to really complicate matters in publishing a long statement stating "food has no religion". So what does Halaal meat really stand for? In any case too much attention because of one guy's attitude. I'm sure is turning away of the Muslim delivery guy has something to do with the BJP/RSS/Modi nexus that the rest of the opposition parties constantly seem to cry about.

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Post by Muns » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:35 am

Well, the news has surprised me. Mediation into the Ayodhya issue has completely failed. The next stop is the Supreme Court and from August 6 this case will be heard on a daily basis. We may need some analysis on the judges and how favorable they are towards Ram Janmabhoomi. In any case,my Pranams to Ravi Shanker for not budging from his stand.

In other news, over 35,000 troops have been moved to Kashmir. There is a lot of panic regarding revocation of article 35A. However in my mind it seems to be the impending terrorist attack. The Amarnath yatra has been called off and I guess when it comes to safety this was probably the only thing that they could have done.
If 35A comes to pass, we could see a massive influx into the valley that would completely swamp and change the demographics. Hopefully it will come to pass. That NDTV foolio Nazir Masoodi was literally smoking some potent stimulants today as he made his news report. He was completely off-the-wall in trying to promote the fact that there is going to be a center led invasion into the valley.

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Post by santosh » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:48 pm

I am glad that the mediation failed. It looks like courts want to do everything but give justice in this case. From giving a political solution to a land dispute to getting parties and mediator to endlessly delaying the case under one reason or other, they have tried all tricks. Now their hand is forced and they have to give a hard decision. Unless they find another way to delay it - which I won't be surprised at all.

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Post by Primus » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:19 pm

I am not surprised that the mediation failed, it was always bound to. Muslims cannot be seen to be 'giving even an inch' to infidels. It is bad for the Ummah as a whole. The entire thing is a house of cards and will collapse if the slightest concession is given to other faiths or ideologies.

The Supreme court is afraid to give a judgement because they are caught in a trap, if they side with the Hindus, they are afraid of Muslims going on a rampage and killing some of the hizzoners, if they side with the muslims, they know they are doing a wrong thing and the entire country will stop believing in the 'impartiality' of the SC, not to mention the majority Hindu population building the temple against the court orders. Which of course will be a major headache for any government to deal with.

This case is likely to drag on, the only solution seems to be a parliamentary one, but we don't have the numbers in the RS - yet.

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Post by Muns » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:51 pm

Exactly, ever since the fall of the Ottoman Empire Muslims around the world have had a hard couple of centuries when it comes to regular defeats by opposing religious armies including India. I’m sure this has led to a difficult internal questions for many Muslims in that perhaps that there is some realization that they are not entitled to special favors by Allah because of Islam. For a religion that always poses the notion that they are benefits in this life and the hereafter for being a Muslim how does one deal with the realization of regular defeats by both militarily and perhaps more mundane in global decisions that do not go there way?
Mullahs have tried to change this around stating that there is not enough belief and so this is the situation of the Islamic world.

Not only that, but to accept any kind of agreement for building a Mandir at Ram Janmabhoomi would be tantamount to accepting Sanathan Dharm and that would be Shirk…. A fundamental right against Islam.

I've posted the link below because it does list the name of the justices that are sitting on this case. Perhaps some analysis of each justice could give us an idea about how each may vote on the crucial vote.
It would also perhaps set up a precedent for other Mandirs around India in which Masjids have been built upon.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/a ... 2019-08-02

1) CJI Gogoi
2) SA Bobde
3) DY Chandrachud
4) Ashok Bhushan
5) SA Nazeer

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Post by Muns » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:05 pm

What must be going on in Kashmir sounds to be extremely serious. Locking down of political leaders especially Mufti and Omar Abdullah who are well known for their social media and tweeting skills I’m sure must have been anticipated as well. I doubt that this can really be in view of any impending terrorist attack. Far too many preparations have already been put into place. Can it be that Amit Shah is showing some of the resolve that Sardar Patel once did in taking over Hyderabad?

Article 35A is an archaic law that again gives Islamists not only autonomy but supports the belief that the Valley of Kashmir needs to be treated in a different way apart from the rest of the country. It has propagated this myth of exclusivity and perhaps we will never get a better chance to rid ourselves of this law.

I hope something along the lines of this will be passed. It needs to be broken down and the Valley needs to accept other Indians who would risk traveling there and settling there. For far too long we have tolerated these extremist views at the head of India. Allow free enterprise and other Indians to settle in and I’m sure peace will quickly follow thereafter.

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Post by Muns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:43 am

Guys, I wrote a quick article on Kashmir. I'm posting the whole article here until it gets uploaded to the website and then will edit accordingly. Wanted to get it out so that some could review. Please let me know of what you think and if any changes are required.

“A” in article 35A should be for Apartheid.

By Vikram Hakura

https://www.india-aware.com/opinion/a-i ... apartheid/
India has been fighting against itself for the last 50 years. Left by the British to try and make a conglomeration of princely states the ideal of all Indians living together under the same rights having the same security was an inconceivable notion 50 years ago. However, through the Iron clad ideals of a few independence leaders India remains what it is today. Sardar Vallabhai Patel ordered the Reconquista of the princely state of Hyderabad and then Goa. Unfortunately, at that time he never had the chance to do what is needed in Kashmir. This problem itself then festered for almost 50 years.

Government after government has treated Kashmir as a special case. Not only giving laws for autonomy but laws against what every citizen of India might’ve hoped for truly including Kashmir into the rest of mainland India. None of them could ever move to or hope to settle down and could always remain but just tourists. The Valley having a majority of population would always hold the rest of the population in Jammu and Ladakh as hostages to their own demands. This being much to the frustration as well as discomfort for the vast minority populations of the state living in Jammu and Ladakh.
It reminds me of a similar scenario in apartheid South Africa where a minority white population held control via a tightly controlled elected system. Apartheid, stands for Apartness. That is exactly what the political leaders of the Kashmir Valley have over the last 50 years tried to promote perhaps for their own political greed or false ideology that they cannot integrate on certain basic fundamental rights to all Indians. Unfortunately for the Valley whose majority population is Muslim they have been subject to external propaganda as well as a consistent belief that their values air a sense of superiority to the rest of all Indians. Islamic theology has always stated that a true believer in Islam often has the air of superiority many times over when compared to a Kaffir or nonbeliever.
In Kashmir’s scenario, specifically the Valley of Kashmir this can never really be exercised in view of the trauma that Hindu Kashmiris have had to face by their violent Exodus.
Over the last few days and after a landslide election the BJP party led under the dynamic leadership of Narendra Modi and Home Secretary Amit Shah may yet try to reverse decades of injustice towards this unequal state. It is time for the “apartness “to be removed. It is time for all Indians to make Kashmir a part of their home. It is time for Kashmiris to allow back in those Kashmiri Pandits who had to flee with their lives and the backpack 30 years ago. It is time for “Apartness” to be removed and the notion of Kashmiriyat to truly flourish.

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Post by Muns » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:10 am

:D :D :D :D :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

ARTICLE 370 GONE!!!

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Post by Muns » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:13 am

What an amazing day to live through history. Amit Shah within three months has pulled off the most amazing turnaround in what I believe in the last three decades for me. The last time I felt this much glee, was when Pokhran 2 occurred and then of course the surgical strikes across the border. However this pretty much tops both of them.

What a brilliant plan of initiating triple talaq to try and appease a vast section of Muslim women, before creating the smoking dagger screen of possible terrorist attack with regard to Amarnath and then the overnight transfer of close to 35,000 troops essentially making sure that the Valley remains calm.
Overnight, the injustice that was created 50 years ago has been simply thrown away.
Justice to Kashmiri Pandits has finally been brought around. It has given new hope to close to a billion Indians and India has a nation has never been stronger.
The opposition has been completely left scratching their heads and how they could have been fooled so easily.

Amit Shah really is the new Sardar Vallabhai Patel.....Jai Ho....Time to distribute the Mithai.
Honestly with news like this, who needs the movies?
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Post by Muns » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:34 am

Amit Shah now saying that Pok and Aksai Chin is an integral part of India as well. Can he actually do something with regard to Pok? I am full of belief now that he can. Too late for me to catch all the news. Looking forward to catching all of the updates in the morning. Will be a difficult time to sleep. :D

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