The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:46 am

Is their a quid pro quo for Laloo breaking MGB in exchange for acquittal or lighter sentence? Technically its Nitish who broke it, but Laloo didn't leave him a choice. It's as if the script was written by BJP and Laloo carried it out.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:05 am

In case anyone has any doubt over why NM must be supported again in 2019, despite pet peeves etc against Modi sarkar:

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Fully expect UPA turds to do such and not a "we're better than them" NDA one. Fair enough.

But why not show the aggression (at least signal the same in words if not deeds!) against genuine looters of the public exchequer, onlee, I wonder.

Heck, I wager that if a few corners must be cut for the same, would fine by the vast majority of BJP voters - no need to go all Harishchandra at that stage only.

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Mean-e-while, Sussma ji's swayam seva continues at the expense of who knows perhaps some deserving Indian patents? Who funds these costly complex ops, BTW?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:23 am

Rudradev wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:21 pm
So my pooches are
A) CAN Modi sarkar do anything about (1) or (2)? I mean, under the Indian constitution and given present political realities.
B) If they can do something, what can they do?
C) If they cannot do anything, how much utility/credibility is there in whining that Modi sarkar is not doing anything?
Good Question. Time will tell whether anything can be done about it.

My [conspiracy] theory: SC recently mandated fast track courts for trying public figures accused of looting public money and resources. Here's a Chindu link: Supreme Court gives the nod for setting up 12 special courts to try cases against politicians

Perhaps the plan is to give a new prosecution a new chance to try UA turds in these courts which *must* return verdicts within 12 months, BTW.

However, MMS style doing nothing and saying nothing can only strengthen the perception of drift, if not disingenous-ness and worse, wimpish-ness.

Its early days yet, so NM does need time. Just that in this milieu, he won't get nearly as much rope as he did 3 yrs ago. Only.

P.S. Oh, and here's the optimistic take - Minhaz Merchant in DailyO (link below).

In how own words in twitter, merchant says:
Minhaz Merchant‏Verified account @MinhazMerchant 14h14 hours ago
Instead of celebrating Raja's acquittal in #2GScamVerdict, Cong & DMK high commands should be worried. Having avoided the spotlight for a decade, the appeal will now focus on their culpability. My column
The real story behind the 2G scam

Well, we'll know soon enough, or so I hope.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 am

A citizen questions SSwaraj about her issuing commands to paki HC to issue medical visas, she blocked him. Nice maturity from EAM of the country. She is India's Angelina Joulie, adopts every paki who asks for medical visa. Every second or third tweet is about her issuing visa to a paki, disgusting.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by abhijit » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:15 am

There was no need to vote against US. We should have remained abstain and clarify we don't want to take sides. On top of that SSwaraj now asking muslim to vote bjp because of that!! Even in gujrat bjp did not get secular votes.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Hari Seldon » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:02 am

Churning in the political firmament of WB, looks like. But hey, its ET, so who knows how true etc.

BJP's victory in Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh unsettles political equations in West Bengal (ET)
KOLKATA: The BJP's victory in the assembly elections in Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh has unsettled political equations in West Bengal and it was likely to have far-reaching consequences in politics of the state, say political leaders.

Some leaders believe that the Mamata Banerjee-led party could tone down its shrillness in countering the saffron party whose win has given the BJP state leadership and cadres a strong footing to prepare ground for the next year's panchayat polls.

"The results would have a major impact in Bengal politics. It will kickstart a churn in state politics in days to come where BJP will be in an advantageous position," BJP leader Mukul Roy said.

Party sources said several TMC leaders were likely to join the BJP in the days to come and the ruling party would find it hard to keep its house in order.

Roy, once the second-in-command of the TMC, joined the BJP last month.

The West Bengal BJP leaders are also hopeful that the poll results would impact the Sabang assembly bypoll scheduled on December 21.
So far all the above is hanging on a (one-off?) Mukul Roy statement. P.S. Fully support Mukul Roy's induction into BJP. He could do a Himanta in WB and we need all the help we can get of even late converts to the PIF cause.
Last night, the BJP took out a victory rally in Sabang to celebrate its success in Himachal Pradesh and Gujarat where the party bagged 44 and 99 seats respectively.

"Our next target is Bengal. And this victory for sure will galvanise the cadres at the grassroots level ahead of the Panchayat polls. We are confident that the people of Bengal want freedom from the misrule of this corrupt TMC government," state BJP chief Dilip Ghosh said.
TMC mean-e-while reacts predictably. In fact, yawnably so.
The TMC, however, dismissed the BJP's claims as baseless and devoid of any political logic.

"The Gujarat poll results will not have any impact on Bengal politics. If you analyse the Gujarat results, you will see that the BJP's Gujarat model of development has fallen flat as it faced a drubbing in rural areas," TMC's Rajya Sabha MP Sukhendu Sekhar Roy told PTI.
Now more suspect spin will follow - with 'anonymous sources' inside TMC and INC and what not. Do pass the salt n pickle.
However, a section of the TMC leadership, who preferred anonymity, expressed apprehension that the BJP might use central agencies like the CBI and the ED to corner TMC leaders whose names have cropped up in corruption cases.

Yesterday, a senior TMC MP told PTI that the party would coordinate with other parties, if need be, in opposing the BJP for its anti-people policies, but would not show resistance on issues that did not affect the common man.

"We will play the role of a constructive opposition in Parliament. We will not become a second fiddle to the Congress in opposing the government on each and every issue," he said.

The Congress, which is hoping to cash in on the party's improved performance in Gujarat, said the TMC's change in stance in Parliament was an indication that the party was going soft on the BJP to save its own leaders.

"The TMC is known for its double standards. It knows very well that most of its leaders might be arrested in corruption cases. So, they are trying to please the BJP by trying to maintain distance with Congress," Leader of Opposition in the state Assembly Abdul Mannan of the Congress said.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:06 am

Looks Like Lalu is going to Acquitted in Fodder scam today.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/lalu ... 16512.html
We trust the judiciary & hope the verdict will be in our favor. Just like BJP propaganda was busted in #2GScam & #AdarshScam, similar will happen now: Tejashwi Yadav ahead of #FodderScam verdict
My trust in the Judiciary has reached this level.
Claiming that there is no case in fodder scam, former Bihar CM Lalu Prasad Yadav is confident that the court will clear him of all charges

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by la.khan » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:38 am

Why GE2019 will not be like GE2004 (from Swarajya)

Why 2019 Will Not Be 2004

Sorry, I see that Hari garu beat me to it :oops:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:40 am

Indrad wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:09 pm
today one of cases on Lalu regarding fodder scam will be decided upon..hunch is he will be punished as courts need to do monkey balancing now! Their reputation is in tatters.
my hunch proved to be right ...atleast once... :mrgreen:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:10 am

Are leaders from ‘lower’ castes and subaltern groups more corrupt?
Shekhar Gupta and other msm heavy weights are spinning stories one after another to divide urban India on caste (rural doesn;t read him anyway)
https://theprint.in/2017/12/23/leaders- ... s-corrupt/

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by AbhishekC » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:44 pm

This guy has a solution to Kashmir problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH-EqJvKtqU

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Prasan » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:19 pm

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/fodder ... 218032.cms

NEW DELHI: In the second blow to the Yadav family on the same day, Rashtriya Janata Dal (RJD) chief Lalu Prasad was on Saturday found guilty in one of the four pending fodder scam cases.
The quantum of punishment will be pronounced on January 3.
Special CBI judge Shivpal Singh pronounced the verdict in a packed courtroom, reported PTI.
Lalu was among the 15 of the 22 accused found guilty by a special CBI court in Ranchi for the fraudulent withdrawal of Rs 84.5 lakh from the Deoghar district treasury between 1994 and 1996.

The convicts, including the RJD chief, were taken into custody immediately after the pronouncement of the verdict.
Seven of the accused, including former Bihar CM Jagannath Mishra, were acquitted, reported ANI.
Earlier in the day, before the verdict was pronounced, Lalu had expressed his "respect" for the country's courts.
"We trust and respect the judiciary. We will not let BJP's conspiracies work. The way things happened in the 2G case, they way they happened for Ashok Chavan, the same will happen for me," he said.

The RJD chief faced five cases in the fodder scam, of which now three are pending. He had been sentenced to five years in jail and fined Rs 25 lakh for the fraudulent withdrawal of Rs 37.5 crore from the Chaibasa treasury in October 2013, but was granted bail by the Supreme Court in December 2013.
In 2014, the Jharkhand high court had stayed the trial against the former Bihar chief minister in four of the pending cases saying that a person convicted in one case could not be tried in similar cases based on same witnesses and evidence. The order, however, was quashed by the apex court, which ordered Lalu to stand trial in all pending fodder scam cases in which he was an accused.
On Friday, Lalu had stressed that the judgment in the fodder scam would not adversely impact the RJD , which would continue to be led by his sons Tejashwi Prasad Yadav and Tej Pratap Yadav.
Hours before the judgment in the fodder scam, the Enforcement Directorate filed a chargesheet against Lalu's daughter Misa Bharti and her husband in a money laundering case.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Aditya_V » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:08 pm

Good. Hope 2g is taken to logical connection soon

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by fanne » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:20 pm

Btw the omelet slurper Shekhar Gupta is trying to give it a caste angle. D raja who was acquitted is a dalit.

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Post by chetak » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:35 pm

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:03 pm

Karthik wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 am
A citizen questions SSwaraj about her issuing commands to paki HC to issue medical visas, she blocked him. Nice maturity from EAM of the country. She is India's Angelina Joulie, adopts every paki who asks for medical visa. Every second or third tweet is about her issuing visa to a paki, disgusting.
And how does TSP respond. They dispatched their regular army troopers across LoC and took 4 of our guys including an officer.

You see TSP is very clear in their minds on the goal they are after. Hit India and beg India and be-fried India.

India's wollyheadedness is evident from SushmaJi's rubbish.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:08 pm

Indrad wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:10 am
Are leaders from ‘lower’ castes and subaltern groups more corrupt?
Shekhar Gupta and other msm heavy weights are spinning stories one after another to divide urban India on caste (rural doesn;t read him anyway)
https://theprint.in/2017/12/23/leaders- ... s-corrupt/
Shekhar Gupta arse-hole is a snake.

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Post by chetak » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:10 pm

crams wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:03 pm
Karthik wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 am
A citizen questions SSwaraj about her issuing commands to paki HC to issue medical visas, she blocked him. Nice maturity from EAM of the country. She is India's Angelina Joulie, adopts every paki who asks for medical visa. Every second or third tweet is about her issuing visa to a paki, disgusting.
And how does TSP respond. They dispatched their regular army troopers across LoC and took 4 of our guys including an officer.

You see TSP is very clear in their minds on the goal they are after. Hit India and beg India and be-fried India.

India's wollyheadedness is evident from SushmaJi's rubbish.
cool it guys.

She is now paying the price extracted by the pakis for issuing the visas for Cdr Kulbhushan's wife and mother.

all visas, including medical have slowed to a mere trickle.

Worry about the 12+ odd lakhs of visas issued to the beedis by India this year alone and their firm demand is visa less entry for all beedis into India, which India is seriously considering because we don't want the chinese becoming too entrenched in beediland which is what the beedis are threatening us with.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by SSundar » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:17 pm

Karthik wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 am
A citizen questions SSwaraj about her issuing commands to paki HC to issue medical visas, she blocked him. Nice maturity from EAM of the country. She is India's Angelina Joulie, adopts every paki who asks for medical visa. Every second or third tweet is about her issuing visa to a paki, disgusting.
Meanwhile, Francois Gautier wrote an article indicating how foreign citizens are finding the eVisa system cumbersome and twisted by bureaucrats. This falls straight under the MEA. It is disgusting Sushmaji does not send any tweets about this or any non-Paki issue.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:24 pm

crams wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:08 pm
Indrad wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:10 am
Are leaders from ‘lower’ castes and subaltern groups more corrupt?
Shekhar Gupta and other msm heavy weights are spinning stories one after another to divide urban India on caste (rural doesn;t read him anyway)
https://theprint.in/2017/12/23/leaders- ... s-corrupt/
Shekhar Gupta arse-hole is a snake.
he is very dangerous!! I tried to reply kindly chk out..

https://twitter.com/vagabondoc/status/9 ... 4073918464
https://twitter.com/vagabondoc/status/9 ... 2051108864

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by srikumar » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:46 pm

^^^Clearly, the judiciary alone is 100% responsible for these decisions (to convict or exonerate). Ask him: 'Are you accusing the judiciary of a castiest bias?' # etcetc. What he is implying is borderline defamation/smear.

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Post by crams » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:51 pm

I didn't read beyond the first 2 sentences, but I what I marvel about is the eco system that Anglo Saxon wannabes like this punk have spawned and they hog the airwaves. I mean these same pukes why cry "sickularism", who demand bogus accountability from BJP for their so called omissions on anything to do with Muslims, romance these UK traditions as if India people could give a rat's arse sans Lutyen elite. This superiority complex tells you why Congoon ecosystem is an extension of colonial Brits

http://www.hindustantimes.com/columns/w ... HzqUK.html

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by KL Dubey » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:30 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
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My result was very very poor.
I'm sincerely sorry for you at a personal level, but equally delighted at a political level. Thank you for understanding.
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Right...that's really important to know in this case! :P

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