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Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:54 pm
by Muns
Looks like Pakistanis are enjoying the taste of grass. While they have denied overflight for India heading westward its which means that we ever had to Do a dog leg maneuver from Delhi to head anywhere west.

Apparently they want India to remove forward fighters from their bases 1st. Aman Ki Asha types will point to the huge costs incurred by India To take on this dog leg maneuver. However it seems that it really hurts Pakistan and PIA more.

Losing up to almost 100 million since the or flight ban was created. Close to $750000 a day. Flights to Malaysia as well as Thailand which were regular flights have been permanently canceled.

I say keep the ban on. Let PIA roll into bankruptcy like the rest of the terror state

www.asianage.com/amp/india/all-india/03 ... llion.html





Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:07 am
by Muns
It seems that Pakistan has decided to open their airspace to allow air traffic as above. I think in the long run it started to hurt them more than it did to us. I do not think that India would've really moved the Sukhois away from there forward basis so basically another capitulation by Pakistan.
I'm all for easing the pain and suffering of the common traveler, but it seems that they were really bankrupting PIA as well. Wonder what would've happened if we did not reciprocate. Another Pakistani industry in the hole.
Aman Ki Asha types on NDTV constantly kept running this news as of more Indian airlines were going bankrupt and it was untenable.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:47 am
by Muns
Pakistan is left floundering in trying to create a response really to Kulbhushan Jadav at the international Court of Justice. It seems that there is only so much diplomatic loss that they can really take. Pakistani papers are abound with claiming that this was a victory in their favor, because they weren't asked to give back Kulbhushan to India. Also while the death sentence has been stayed for now, this is something that is still really a possibility for him. At the very least, he'll be able to get consular access as well as build some kind of defense.

I wonder if there's any further diplomatic pressure that we could place on Pakistan to allow them to return him.
I once wrote previously on how Pakistanis must deal with an identity crisis in constantly losing every moral as well as diplomatic and military engagement with India. How do Pakistanis, really deal with their upbringing in that 1 momin is equal to 10 kufr. Islamic history is abound about how a momin was fantastically able to fight off dozens of kufr single-handedly because of the power of his belief. How do Pakistanis now reconcile constantly losing every engagement they have. Well come to think of it is simply denial.
Deny, deny, deny it never happened......

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:14 am
by Muns
So it looks to be that Imran Khan is traveling to the US for a discussion with Trump. I heard her relatively small piece on NPR today that may give us some insight into why Trump would be willing to talk to Khan, who is being escorted by the ISI to weigh in on this meeting. Also, it seems to be that they have briefly put Hafiz Sayeed under house arrest again for optics.
Apparently Afghanistan and control of the Taliban isn't going according to what from would like hence being forced to negotiate with Khan. Let's see what comes out of this. Hopefully no new funding the terrorist state. The US however has always tried to play both sides of the fence with regard to India and Pakistan.

On a different note, wouldn't we all wish that the movie Phantom had a appropriate theme with Hafiz Sayeed getting gunned down by Indian spy. Who knows?

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/21/74384723 ... s-d-c-trip

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:03 am
by Muns
Looks like Imran Khan managed to squeeze Trump for a statement of that he would be more than grateful to mediated if asked. As usual, the US is played the middle ground with trying to offer a few nuts for Imran Khan and his ISI entourage.
I don't think anything more substantial has come out of the meeting. Let us wait and see. He can return home with more promises from the Americans who have given so much to them over the last few years.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:46 am
by Muns
India has right over entire Jammu and Kashmir. You`ll get a bloodier nose next time: General Bipin Rawat

https://www.india-aware.com/trending/in ... ipin-rawat
General Bipin Rawat made a vociferous statement on India’s stand on Kashmir on the twentieth anniversary of Kargil Vijay Diwas to commemorate the contributions of the armed forces. During his speech on India’s victory over Pakistan in the Kargil War, the Army chief made it clear that “India has the right on the entire territory of Jammu and Kashmir including the portion which is known as the POK (Pakistan Occupied Kashmir) and how to get it back from Pakistan will be a political decision. Whether to take it by force or dialogue is a matter on which the decision would be taken politically and the Army would act accordingly.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:04 am
by Muns
I guess, I shouldn’t really be irritated with regard to Imran Khan speech. I can sorely understand that he needs simply to his local Jihadi audience in trying to create a hysterical situation with India. What I hate is the reference to Hindus as being racists.
The notion of it just disturbs me. Recently published an article on how open Hindus have been over millennia towards multiple communities as threatened by the Abrahamic religions, especially Islam. Numerous Hadith, often spell out how 1 Momin is often equal to 10 Kufr in terms of strength as well as prowess. One may only read about the companions of the Prophet and how each of them in battle would take on numerous Kufr and defeat them simply because of their belief.

Pakistanis I am sure are fed this garbage most of all. Coming through the ranks of the Pakistani Army it is almost any requirement to read the battle histories of Khalid Bin Walid. It should be noted that Khalid Bin Walid fought against Mohammed first and actually defeated his army initially before converting to become his general. It is without feel that almost every battle you can read about how 1 Momin took on tens of Kufr and defeated them with ease.

How can one forget about the Holocaust that Pakistanis have inflicted upon Bangladeshis, which by some Bangladeshi accounts can be as much as up to 3 million. How can one forget about the Jizya tax that Islam has placed upon non-Muslims. How can one forget about the lack of minorities in Pakistan because of systematic ethnic cleansing.

Imran Khan is desperate for war hysteria. He is now claiming an imminent attack on Pok and daily it seems dropping bombshells with regard to nuclear war again in the subcontinent.
It is imperative that India really try to fast develop its own iron dome by full phase of rollout of the AAD and Prithvi air defense system to really negate Pakistan’s threat of the impending nuclear attack.
The man is as psycho as any Mulah. It is no wonder that his ex-wife has also labeled him as a nymphomaniac involved in drugs and alcohol.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:18 am
by Muns
https://twitter.com/nailainayat/status/ ... 84166?s=08

Incredible video above of the Pakistani mindset of still dreaming in taking overall of India.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:04 am
by Muns
Opinion Pakistan's Provocateurs Bring the Kashmir Conflict to Europe's Streets, and Radicalize Europe's Muslims

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.pre ... -1.8069043

Great article overall.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:11 am
by Muns
Protests against Pakistan's Imran Khan: Right-wing vs. right-wing

https://www.dw.com/en/protests-against- ... a-51097687

It was only a matter of time before Mullah turned on Mullah.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:33 am
by chetak
Pakistani Officials Outside London Court Try To Thwart Dawood Aide Jabir Motiwala’s Extradition To US




Pakistani Officials Outside London Court Try To Thwart Dawood Aide Jabir Motiwala’s Extradition To US

Nov 29 2019,

Pakistani Officials Outside London Court Try To Thwart Dawood Aide Jabir Motiwala’s Extradition To US

In the high-profile extradition case of Jabir Motiwala, a top D-company aide, the Westminster Magistrates' Court here has sought details of terror linkages of Dawood Ibrahim with his aide.

The court has asked US authorities to furnish details of Jabir's association with Dawood Ibrahim, who according to Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), is accused of running global drug racket and executing killings, including serial bombings in India.

As the hearing comes to an end, the Pakistan High Commission officials were seen outside the court. The Pakistani diplomats have been trying their best to thwart or defer extradition of Jabir Motiwala whose detention in US can spill the beans on Dawood-ISI nexus, particularly relating to subversive activities in South Asia.

Jabir Motiwala, a Pakistan national is perceived as Dawood Ibrahim's key financial aide who manages D-company funds flowing out of its global crime syndicate operation. At present Motiwala, detained in London, is fighting his extradition to the US on serious drug trafficking charges and money laundering amounting to US $ 1.4 million.

The US have also charged Motiwala with having direct links with global terrorist Dawood Ibrahim, who according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), is based in Karachi, Pakistan.

The court was curious to know Motiwala's links with the terror network headed by Dawood Ibrahim.

"There is an added element to this case in that there is a clear reference to this man's (Moti) position, who is said to be a lieutenant of the man (Ibrahim) who is involved in the most horrendous crimes, including bombings in India," said Judge John Zani at Westminster Magistrates' Court in London on Wednesday (27 November).

Sources said Pakistan has been providing best legal aide to Jabir to fight his case. Jabir's lawyers have earlier expressed apprehension that US authorities might slap enhanced terror charges on Jabir once he is extradited. The terror charges would put Jabir at risk of being sentenced for life imprisonment.

Sources close to Indian agencies informed IANS that the Pakistan High Commission in London had earlier also tried to thwart the extradition move by submitting a letter on behalf of the accused's lawyer in the court, saying Motiwala was a "well-known and respected businessman in Pakistan".

In fact, Pakistan fears that once Motiwala is extradited to the US, the close aide of D-Company can reveal the entire nexus between Dawood Ibrahim's underworld network (being operated from Karachi) and the don's connection with Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI).

The US has already declared Dawood Ibrahim a global terrorist running an international drug syndicate and sharing the gang's routes with Pakistan-based terror outfits. Sources said Dawood's key finance aide Motiwala appeared in the magistrate's courts in London after his arrest by Scotland Yard's Extradition Unit on charges of money laundering and sharing the proceeds of narcotics money earned on behalf of the D-Company.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:02 am
by Muns
So it turns out that Hafiz Saeed has been jailed by a Pakistani court for five and half years. I'm sure that amounts to 5 1/2 months before he actually leaves jail again. The timing of this is extremely opportune if I must say. Trump and Melenia are going to be visiting India in the next two weeks. I am sure on the eve of an Indian visit they would like to show that they are partisan towards India. In a gesture of good faith I am sure that they would've put some squeeze on Imran Khan for a fake agenda where they can show their minuscule influence on Pakistan.

For this act Pakistan will probably receive a few more F-16s as well as US armory equipment. Watch out for this over the next couple of days with regard to US weapons sales.
Trump full come and go and within a couple of months Hafeez Saeed, will be released on bail again. The same cycle starts again. It is nothing but a complete photo op.

I truly wish that with all of the intelligentsia and resources at our disposal, we could dispose of him in quick and humiliating fashion. Let it strike fear into the heart Pakistan that no one is immune to attacks on India and Hindus and then run to staying safe within their own borders. One or two of them picked off will truly strike fear into the heart of Pakistani intelligentsia that he indeed India has developed the capability to strike when and where it wants freely without any reprisal.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:32 am
by Muns
So is not just Hindus that they are targeting, but Christians too.

Christian girl killed for rejecting Muslim man’s marriage proposal in Pakistan

https://www.india-aware.com/latest/chri ... -pakistan/

A Pakistani Christian girl has been killed after her parents rejected a marriage proposal sent by a Muslim man in Pakistan’s Rawalpindi.

Officers at the Coral Police Station in Rawalpindi reported to have detained an accused named Faizan, while searches were carried out to apprehend the prime suspect, Shehzad.

According to the police, Shehzad’s mother is also said to have submitted her son’s proposal for the victim, Sonia, but her parents declined to marry her with a Muslim man, Faizan.

According to the police, on the day of the shooting, the girl was in the company of Faizan when Shehzad opened fire on her.

The police said that, after the probe in to the murder, it seems to have been carried out on the grounds of personal animosity.

However, the deputy inspector general (DIG) of police said the police were investigating all aspects.

Last month, a young Christian girl, Arzoo Raja, was reportedly abducted, forced to convert and marry a 44-year-old Muslim man in Karachi.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:21 am
by Muns
Another day, Another Mandir burned in Pakistan...

Mob attacks and sets ablaze Hindu temple in Pakistan

https://www.india-aware.com/latest/mob- ... -pakistan/
It was a mob, and then nobody was there to stop them from damaging the temple,” said Wazir, adding that much of the structure had been destroyed.
District Police Chief Irfanullah Khan told Reuters that nine people had been detained on suspicion of involvement in the attack.
The temple was first built as a sanctuary in the early 1900s, but the local Hindu community left in 1947 and by 1997 the local Muslims had taken over the building.

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Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:18 am
by Muns
Shifted post from the cricket thread.

Sometimes however I watch Shoaib Akhtars channel and he has been nothing but praise recently for the Hindustan team management. Hindustan, he goes on to say has one only because of the investment into team management over the last decade. He goes on to credit Rahul Dravid and the management at the BCCI in taking care of youngsters, growing up the infrastructure as well as creating the IPL.

As previously pointed out this guy was recently also saying that, it is written for Pakistan to be victorious as Ghazis in taking over Hindustan. He hardly ever mentions India by name.

What interests me is really the psyche in his mind as he is saying these things. He obviously recognizes that Indian management as well as what India today is a formidable country overall and able to achieve great things. This includes in his mind being courageous enough to take on the Australians with half a bench strength team and win in Australia.

A few months ago, he was repeating the madrassah line of Pakistanis being Ghazis and taking over Hindustan.

I mean, they must be some dichotomy break for a lot of Pakistanis. Raised on the fuel that their future as Muslims is to rule over Hindustan, I can understand when faced with these realities of arising and powerful Hindu nation that has repeatedly handed multiple defeats to Pakistan militarily and psychologically, how this idea of taking over Hindustan gets repeatedly propagated.

Now, on multiple levels millions of Pakistanis are admiring the Hindus in the Indian cricket team but yet there is the underlying craving of maybe one day I will be given my God-given rights in Hindustan.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:05 am
by Muns
What does anybody really think with regard to the incoming Biden administration and its re-engagement with Pakistan? The only thing that I supported trump was regard to his policies with Pakistan as well as the Islamic world. However, he did far more damage here in the US locally. Now that he is gone, we are already hearing murmurs with regard to Pakistan and re-engaging with the US including militarily.

I mean the US can’t be that daft can they? After the long-standing history of terrorism including finding Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.
What the Pakistanis are going to constantly try and show is another equally equal with regard to yes we can accept that we are a terrorist hell hole…. But India under Modi and the BJP is equally a “terrorist” nation as well.

Another equal equal agenda for Pakistan.

Over the last few years one increasing partner for Pakistan in strained Saudi ties has been Turkey. Turkey under Erdogan has been increasingly Islamized and hence seeking like-minded jihadist nations.

It may be, that the US could actually buy into Pakistan’s argument especially with motions like the CAA for which basically I do not think they have much of a clue.

Thoughts?

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:46 am
by Muns
I’m not sure what chance these mandirs really ever had. With partition it was only a matter of time that they would be attacked and communities would abandon them for their lives. It may be worthwhile to create digital representations of these mandirs, so that whatever they were in glory would not be lost to the sands of posterity. Unfortunately reading online one can find that most of these Mandirs are usually defiled on a daily basis by some who would especially make the journey to relieve their bladder and bowels intentionally.
I for one feel that it is time to make a list of the closest Mandirs to the border and in the future in any kind of military confrontation capture and hold onto the sites.
India is already working on a shield with regard to protecting from nuclear attacks. This Bharat Kavach, should be the first step in reintegration of border territories from Pakistan.

365 Hindu temples in Pakistan in a state of decay, restoration efforts interfered by Islamic fanatics

https://www.india-aware.com/latest/365- ... -fanatics/
The result which unfolded afer the Commission submitted its report was startling at the condition the Hindu religious sites are lying in. The Commission report submitted to the Supreme Court on 5 February provided a disturbing image of the most respected holy places of the Hindu community in Pakistan today. The study said the sites were lying in a state of decay. The Commission toured the temples of Katas Raj, Chakwal and Prahlad Mandir, Multan on 6 January 2021, and 7 January 2021, respectively, and found that the sites were ignored.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:04 am
by Muns
Another day, another Hindu gets lynched.

Five members of Hindu family in Pakistan killed with knives and axe, locals in shock

https://zeenews.india.com/world/five-me ... 46246.html
A Hindu family in Pakistan was found dead under mysterious circumstances with their throats slit on Friday.

Around five members of the family with their throats slit with some sharp-edged weapon in their house in Abu Dhabi Colony, 15-kilometre away from Rahim Yar Khan city, as per a report by The News International.

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:36 am
by Muns
Hindu journalist shot dead in Pakistan

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... aign=cppst

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:53 am
by Muns
 Looks alike Pakistan is now going through another surge with regard to covid 19. Current case positivity rate is noted to be at 7.51%. The economist stated that Pakistan had some of the best  figures in the world until recently. Latest figures and surge seem to be coming after recent festival of Eid ul Adha. 

Could Pakistan be seeing the surge due to Delta virus? India managed to pull numbers  back with a huge vaccination campaign. Over 300k vaccines in a matter of a month. 

However Pakistan does not really have this resource at all. They would rely strictly on measures such as social distancing, mask wearing etc.

Every surge in Pakistan would be a scary scenario especially without having access to mass vaccination drive. 


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Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:02 am
by Muns
Current case positivity rate in Pakistan is noted to be over 8%. Recently they apparently just crossed 1 million cases compliant to India and the US which have crossed over 30 million. While there’s a lot of debate regarding the numbers coming out of Pakistan especially since we don’t really have a clear idea how they managed to skip the surge. We may say testing, as the usual excuse but is there more to this?

Pakistan however continues to remain on the red list especially with regard to entry to the UK, which must rankle yet again since India has been removed from this list.

Have the lockdowns be much more effective in Pakistan? Is it the fact that kids and women remain entirely secluded at home? In any case, this is Pakistan’s 4th mild surge, and of course they do not have any real access to vaccinations like India has.

Which will be the surge that spreads across Pakistan? Without vaccination, it is only a matter of time.

In other news, Pakistani Arshad Nadeem came fifth in the javelin while India's Neeraj Chopra bagged the gold. Much more wrangling there.
How is it that the Kufr, time and time again seem to outsmart the pious both intellectually as well as physically as well. When will Pakistanis ask this question of themselves? How will they answer it?

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:42 am
by Muns
Outrage as Hindu family tortured in Pak for fetching drinking water from mosque
According to the report in Dawn newspaper, Alam Ram Bheel, a resident of Punjab’s Rahimyar Khan city, was picking raw cotton with his family members in a field. When the family went outside a nearby mosque to fetch drinking water from a tap, some local landlords beat them up.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 46779.html

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:49 am
by Muns
Just another day in Pukistan.

Silver necklaces stolen as thieves rob Hindu temple in Pakistan
According to these reports, the thieves struck at Devi Mata temple after breaking the locks. They removed the necklaces on the deities’ necks and also robbed the cash donation box at the temple.
https://indianewengland.com/2021/11/sil ... -pakistan/

Another Temple attack.

Indians ask BCCI to take a knee for Hindus in Pakistan after Temple was attacked in Sindh before Diwali
A Hindu Temple was vandalised in Sindh, Pakistan ahead of Diwali. According to videos that have emerged, it can be seen that the idol of Shiva was destroyed. The video shows that the miscreants vandalised the Temple and stole valuables including gold chains and a crown from an idol of Lord Ram. After videos of the desecration emerged, Indians demanded that BCCI take a knee for the Hindus being persecuted in Pakistan.
https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/indians ... -pakistan/

Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:54 am
by Muns
Brave of him to come out and make a statement like this. This especially in Pakistan with Waqar having such a fan following. Hopefully, he and his family does not get targeted for videos like this. I hope that GOI will consider offering him CAA at the first sign of any distress.


Re: Pakistan - News & Discussion 2021

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:20 pm
by Muns
Just another day when it comes to lynching in Pakistan. It seems like Sri Lankans are back again on the menu unfortunately. Take the case of poor Priyantha Diyawadana, the factory manager who reportedly took down a poster in the factory perhaps containing a few verses of the Koran along with the local Jehadi political party that posted. Upon binning it, his own workers of the Tehreek-e-Labbaik (TLP) assembled a lynch mob outside his factory, dragged him out and beat him with multiple stones as well as implements before eventually dragging his body through the streets of Sialkot and then finally burning it.

Let’s not forget the previous attempt on the Sri Lankan cricket party. All the poor Sri Lankans can do is personally asked Imran Khan to not let the guilty party go unspared.

The videos that I have seen on twitter onto gruesome and gory to be reproduced here I feel. Only I can say is that it was one of the most gruesome deaths that I have seen.

We also have multiple Pakistanis posting reaction videos while sobbing over Priyantha poor lynching in the streets. Crocodile tears unfortunately for the poor Kufr. The govt of Sialkot, was trying to apparently trying to rediscover some Buddhist history with regard to tourism potential. After the lynching of the Sri Lankan, good luck with that.
Just another day in Pakistan.