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Post by Muns » Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:58 am

A sad day with the passing of Sushma Swaraj. I remember her for being completely accessible to anybody on twitter and the numerous messages that would make the headlines of her compassion for anybody that really needed it. She really set a trend about ministers being available and accountable to the public and not removed by her power position. I remember her speeches at the UN and how strong she was in vociferously attacking Pakistan and its terror network. A real pioneer who will be sorely missed. She was too young to be gone at 67. I understand that she received a kidney transplant and was probably on immunosuppressive medications. She was also diabetic which can only be the reason why she had such a early cardiovascular disease leading to probable myocardial infarction and her passing.
I'm quite sure that she would've attained Moksha.

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Post by Muns » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:06 am

In other news, I'm not sure what we are achieving by holding up Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti. For one they are political enemies and it seems that we have only really brought them together. I can understand the need for security on the ground especially with regard to Kashmir. I seem to also suffer from occasionally listening to NDTV propaganda. I have no doubt in my mind that Amit Shah would have planned for the fall out. But I'm not quite sure what the point is of holding up these two elected leaders. The rest of the separatist be damned under house arrest.
This only serves for more bad publicity in my opinion.

Just to expand on the above, security is vital and so are the troops. The valley would've erupted into enraged violence with a lot of looting as well as rock pelting as in years past. We all know how bad things would've gotten. NDTV is trying to say that the valley population is so peaceful when we remember images of them ringing tires around soldiers and setting them alight. Not only that let's not forget trying to light up bunkers with soldiers as well as gruesome killing of civilians as well who were in any way supportive of India and the Armed Forces. We can understand there's a long history of this. However the time now is to try and win over pro-India Kashmiri Muslims and maybe now is the time to really initiate our own propaganda scheme. Lockdown, I feel only aggravates the purpose. Bakri EId is also on Saturday. This leaves little time for Kashmiri Muslim preparations as well as people flying back into the valley. I hope over the next two days some of these restrictions will start to be lifted and I hope that Friday prayers remain peaceful unlike the riots past.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:26 am

So, some of this political fallout continues. I have no doubt in my mind that the Valley Muslims would have agitated and basically created another violent situation in which looting and perhaps deaths of security forces would’ve come into play. Some amount of lockdown is necessary. However, failed to see how arresting Omar Abdullah or Mehbooba Mufti has been positive so far. Perhaps, they are hand-in-hand with the separatist. However religious speculation from my side. However it is creating some blowback with arresting “ democratically elected leaders ”. NDTV is full on crisis mode regarding the lockdown and that people are suffering because of lack of emergency services.

Ajit Doval was seen today wish trying to communicate and see what the mood really is like. As I’ve said before, it’s going to be somewhat of a long road. The Valley has always stood for ”apartheid” or apartness from the rest of India in the article that I wrote above. I’m hoping that come the end of the week we can see some lifting of the restrictions and both Abdulla and Mufti back to their first job of being twiterratis.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by rsingh » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:14 am

Guys, I am kept under house arrest by my Mcbook. I can not log-on to BR (some security issues). Please convey my concern to BR strategic thread. I think it is highly likely that Pak will go for an atomic test. It could be before 14th August or before UN GA in Sept. They have to show solidarity with Kashmiris , bring world's attention (hence mediation) and to impress upon muslim world.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Primus » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:58 am

It is season of Beautiful Mondays:

Monday July 22nd - Chandrayaan 2

Monday July 29th - Triple Talaq Bill passed

Monday August 5th - Article 370 abrogated

Amit Shah and Modi Ji are the twin gifts that keep on giving to the nation.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:16 am

If there's one thing that I will say for Modi, is that he has impeccable timing. By coming on and reassuring everybody about what he said today as I am sure he defused a lot of tension all over the Valley. Kashmiris I’m sure would be excited to avail of all of the opportunities that all citizens have a right to. For far too long they have been held by dynastic politics being the Abdullah’s and the Muftis. Their emotions have been also preyed upon by separatists as well. Watch a huge amount of industry flow into J&K to really bring it into the modern age.

It’s no wonder that Abdullah was crying crocodile tears as he realizes his son and future progeny will no more be able to fund their own coffers. Too many development schemes to mention will now become available. All in all a good speech and pleasantly timed. He even reassured that EID should not be trouble for Kashmiris in the Valley as well. It was good to hear.

I think it would merely mean something to incorporate more young Kashmiris into visible public spheres. I’m talking about ISRO doing more outreach programs for Kashmiris. I remember a few years ago that they did such a thing through the ISRO complex. Many other governmental organizations, including railways etc. can all play a part. Get a few more Kashmiri cricketers as well as Bollywood actors/actresses as well.
Week within a few years we could all will see the youth leaving behind Jihadism for a chance to control the Pragyan rover on the moon. Now who wouldn’t want that! Or at least I could hope!

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Post by Muns » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:37 am

Guys please find my article below regarding the Taqiyya of Pakistan. Comments appreciated. It should be up on the website pretty soon and will change the links accordingly. Would welcome any comments and please try to share if you can.

The Taqiyya of Pakistan

By Vikram Hakura

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Pakistani butchering of Shias is well known. Not a single Friday goes by without conflict violence between Pakistani Sunnis trying to eradicate Shias and Ahmadiyya’s all over Pakistan. This happens with such regularity that Pakistani citizens are pretty much numb to the scenario. In fact, it seems odd if no violence has happened within the last week! You can pretty much count on a mosque bombing to happen with regularity every Friday of the year. Not only that, it is with increasing and brutal regularity that the Sunni Muslims often abduct Hindu girls by violence and threats to the family with alarming regularity all across Pakistan especially Sindh province.
Not only Sunni versus Shiite violence but Pakistanis are also usually involved in Secretarian violence between Punjabi Muslims versus Sindhis, Balochis, Afghanis and Kashmiris of Pakistan occupied Kashmir being Gilgit. Pakistan has also been the nodal country in the world harboring terrorists such as the infamous Osama bin Laden while categorically denying repeatedly to the rest of the world that he was not present in Pakistan.
Let’s get this straight, India has been the world’s leading protector of human rights when it comes to various ethnic groups in the world. India has protected Tibetans from China. It has protected Syrian Christians from Catholic Inquisition. It is protected Shias, Ahmadiyya’s, Jews, Sikhs, Parsis, Bahai, Chin Burmese and too many religions to name because that is the identity of India. That is the identity of Hindus and Sanathana Dharma and the idea in the world is one family, Vasudeva Kutumbakam.
Eminent Pakistani journalists have indeed fallen far from the tree of actual journalism. You cannot be free of speech and publish anything in Pakistan where an overhanging sword hangs above your head by the ISI. Hence, we should try to take it into perspective, that many of these eminent Pakistani journalists are meant to institute a policy of Taqiyya, i.e. lying for the cause of Islam.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:18 am

We recently did a video on a follow-up of Kashmiri Pandit's views and how the effect of article 370. To some extent it was not as expected although there are entirely supportive of Modi and Shahs decision. The video should be out shortly on our YouTube channel but I thought to post some of the highlights that I got out of watching it. I think this is worth mentioning especially when it comes to how Kashmiri Pandit's really feel about what has happened with regard to article 370 and abrogation.

I'll try to do this in a point basis as I got from watching the video.

1) The government of India has spent thousands of crores with regard to trying to develop Kashmir and sending this to the state government of Kashmir without any established results. Huge projects such as building the secretariat at as well as new headquarters for the police and up gradation of the Shalimar bagh Gardens just hasn’t taken place in 30 years. Decades of promises but no result on the ground because of corruption.

2) As a result of corruption of the state governments, they has been no incentive for industries to enter and Kashmir thus causing a high unemployment. Only state government jobs are available with regard to the Police, Army and secretarial jobs. However, how can you run a state based on only government available jobs? Thousands of crores has been completely swindled away by political parties of the state.


3) This is also led to high unemployment and easy targeting of young Kashmir youth by radical forces and Islamization from across the border. It is also unfortunately lead like almost Punjab like situation for high levels of opium abuse among Kashmir youth.

4) Article 370 has laid the leveling ground for all Indians to enter and invest in Kashmir. To some extent however this has become the equalizer for Kashmiri Pandit’s who have never been assigned their specific rights for all of the property they have lost and the assets that they had. Unfortunately this is led to them losing all of those rights to an almost equal basis with any Indian entering into Kashmir. Surprisingly, they don’t mind but they are asking for some review of their situation.


5) Many key political parties are looking to just end the rule of Modi and Shah because of the predominance of the lack of accountability. State governments would simply swallow the central funds for political parties own corruption. We saw this happening in Andhra with Naidu and the same goes for Kashmir with Mufti and Abdullahs.

6) What a farce it is with regard to Pakistan. Not only are they responsible for the radicalization among Kashmir youth but they completely turn a blind eye towards China and the complete suppression of Muslims in Xinjiang province. The human rights there by the Chinese are unbelievable for anybody that would care to look them up but not a word by Pakistan.


7) Many Pok citizens are completely fed up by the rule from Islamabad. They are eagerly looking towards becoming part of the Indian union.



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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:05 am

So it looks like Eid passed with relatively low fanfare. I will say however that anybody looking on Twitter, there were multiple threads trying to call for a bloodless Eid. I wonder if this is really getting to be a increasing phenomenon. Hard to believe that this can be so, after all we know that it is really celebrated for Abraham who was willing to sacrifice his son because asked to by God.

Such is the faith and devotion of Abraham, the first idol breaker. It has been such a faith and tradition for over a thousand years, that I’m sure among like other things etched in stone this can’t be changed. A pity, because what we can see is the huge amount that increase livestock production really places the strain on the planet with regard to water consumption as well as increased carbon dioxide contributing to global warming.
I wonder if beyond meat substitutes could ever be a real factor here. It is the nature and tradition of the sacrifice by Abraham that needs to be remembered.

Another screwup by Zomato. I have basically uninstalled their app as well. After they’re prolonged speech stating that food has no religion, there are now embroiled in another controversy where Muslim drivers refused to deliver pork and Hindu drivers refused to delivered beef. It almost seems a throwback to the first war of independence against the British with those greased cartridges.

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Post by Muns » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:32 am

A few words to say on situation regarding Pehlu Khan. The Rajasthan court decreed that the six accused were given the benefit of doubt with regard to his death. The final court verdict was to say that the six accused were not guilty and acquitted. Why? Well on many counts either because of witnesses changing their story or even Pehlu Khan naming different accused in his death statement just not adding up. What was finally the cause apparently by the coroner was cardiovascular arrest, most likely because of myocardial infarction (also known as a heart attack) was likely the common cause of his death.

I would just like to say in medical terminology this probably means that Pehlu Khan most likely had significant coronary artery disease that already set him up over the greater part of his life for having significant artery plaque that already had him at risk for a heart attack. Perhaps his poor dietary choices or any other significant risk factors such as family history, lack of exercise, poor diet, smoking, diabetes already led him to being at risk of a significant cardiovascular event etc.

This pretty much means that he already had significant heart disease and it was pretty much a matter of time before he had an impending cardiovascular event leading to his death. Could it have been the attack on him that led to his death? Maybe…… But also most likely that any significant stress would’ve led to plaque rupture and eventual myocardial infarction…. Also known as heart attack. I guess what I’m trying to say is that you cannot definitively say that it was the attack that caused Pehlu Khans death! How can you say unless you really have a complete history of his medical health?

Was the attack abhorrent? Absolutely. Was Pehlu Khan a cattle smuggler? I guess we shall never know. It was absolutely wrong to have him assaulted unless it was in self-defense. We have at India Aware produced quite a few videos on how cattle smugglers have attacked Gau activists.
What is disturbing however is the relentless media trying to create causality between Pehlu Khans attack and his heart attack three days later in the hospital. Can it be definitively said that his death was the cause for his heart attack considering already such a significant plaque burden, I guess we will never know.

What is completely horrendous however is the missionary zeal that NDTV keeps trying to create causality between the video and a man’s heart attack a few days later. They would seek to act as the Supreme Court for justice where already the law of the land has decreed that it is difficult to prove such causality
This shows yet again why foreign media agencies such as NDTV with strong Christian links to the Gandhi’s have their own agenda.

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Post by Muns » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:15 am

Overall I think it's been a fantastic development by the BJP over the last 2 weeks with such strategic planning and thankfully so far pulled off without a significant hitch. I have no doubt in my mind that after being radicalized for so long across the border, residents of the Valley without any such enforcement in place would’ve taken to another intifada type situation only egged on by their separatist Masters. In enforcing the lockdown and slowly opening things up over the next two weeks they have completely lost the initiative.

I will say however that the news media all around the world has only sought to bring residents only from the Kashmir Valley to hear their views. It is so surprising to me that none of the other residents of the state such as Jammu or Ladakh ever get any mention. It is only the Valley and its Muslims that seem to get the most attention when it comes to media coverage all around the world.

Not just that, but lets not forget how violent and aggressive Valley residents have been towards their own neighbors being the Kashmiri Pandit’s. While 500,000 were previously driven out, even the remaining 2 to 3000 that are left in the Kashmir Valley I am sure would’ve been exterminated with this announcement. It is so unfortunate that their side of the story never gets bought out in international media.

I mean, what is it that India is really trying to enforce? One nation under the same laws in which everybody is equal? Is this not the standard that should be so? Valley residents are basically arguing for the same concessions and superior rights to all Indian citizens as a continued birthright of state.
From what I hear today however, phone lines opening up all across the valley and by tomorrow it should be pretty much all of the valley. Schools and the opening of this week. For this two weeks, the amount of media coverage across the world has been staggering.
Perhaps next thing is to release Mufti and Omar, I feel that their continued house arrest serves really no purpose.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by chetak » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:56 am

Can't believe that a hypocritical creep and a religious bigot like valson thampu has written this piece.

Is there something that he is foreseeing,

the junking of the fraudulent RTE perhaps, a millstone that is sitting heavy around the neck of the majority or worse things that were thrust upon the unsuspecting and docile majority by IG and her urban naxal BIF pals

Kashmir as an allegory of pathological minorityism



Kashmir as an allegory of pathological minorityism

Between the response, broadly speaking, of the rest of India and that of the people of the Valley, to the present Kashmir gamble, there is a complete discontinuity.


18th August 2019
By Valson Thampu

Between the response, broadly speaking, of the rest of India and that of the people of the Valley, to the present Kashmir gamble, there is a complete discontinuity.

When an action taken in apparent hostility to a religious minority group finds wide national endorsement, it should make members of that community, as also of other communities similarly placed, sit and reckon what it signals.


“The strength of my community,” a senior Muslim leader told me some fifteen years ago, “is that when it comes to religion, they do not think.” Developments one after another prove that this is not a strength but a terrible weakness. Those who keep their community’s thinking paralysed are wolves, even if they parade themselves in sheep’s clothing.

A religious minority, wrote Hilaire Belloc (The Jews, 1922), is apt to be perceived as a foreign body in an organism. If we would keep aside idealistic myths and notions and look reality in the face, we would agree with Belloc.

Given the problematic dynamics of majority-minority relationships, which get aggravated in tune with ongoing political power struggles, there are only three models, according to Belloc, for dealing with it: (a) extermination of minorities, say, after the fashion of Hitler (b) their exclusion, as the Jews suffered in most European societies, and (c) the coexistence of the majority and minorities in a state of tolerant acceptance of each other, which is the ideal.

The last of the three calls for adjustments from both parties. In a democracy, minorities should not, even if they legally can, live like ‘a stone in the midst of a flowing stream’ (W B Yeats).

The majority, on its part, should not treat a minority, emboldened by unbridled state power, like a mass of people to be directed and driven at will. Wholesome majority-minority coexistence is vital to constitutional, secular democracy in a religiously pluralist society. The alternative is majoritarian communalism fuelling fascism.

Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of the Union of India. Separatists apart, this position is axiomatic even for mainstream Kashmiri politicians, including the now maligned members of ‘three families’. No self-respecting state will entertain separatists.

A state is not a saintly entity. Unlike moralists, no political thinker anywhere in the world maintains that a state should forgive a domestic agent or foreign country that destabilises its national interests or hurts its territorial integrity.

I am a Christian and I believe that enemies must be loved as mandated by biblical ethics; but I am realistic enough to know, and accept, that politics is a domain in which enemies are, if possible, eliminated. Those who maintain otherwise are wilfully blind to historical realities.


Well, what about religions? There is no religious community, including mine, that deals with freethinkers and heretics with forbearance and charity. Separatists are political heretics. Certainly so, from the perspective of the state, which is what matters in the present instance.

The Kashmir policy of the government is not an accidental outbreak, but the outcome of an electoral process in which 900 million citizens endorsed, by majority opinion, a genre of statecraft and a certain style of doing politics.

In a democracy it must prevail, even if several of the agendas pursued and the strategies adopted happen to disquiet individual citizens.

Leaving aside speculation regarding how the Kashmir gambit will play out, there is one issue that it foregrounds. That issue has ramifications for the country as a whole. Can a minority religious community seek to preserve and advocate its identity and interests in indifference to national sensitivities?

Or, can a religious minority exist as an end in itself, indifferent to the dynamics of a religiously pluralist body politic, selectively invoking the provisions of its secular constitution? If it chooses to, should it justify that option and what it entails on the plea that the majority community also does likewise?

Is it even spiritually defensible for a religious community—minority or majority—to exist only for itself, unmindful of the national totality from which it derives its rights and national identity? Isn’t spirituality, after all, a point of convergence of the political and the religious?

Religious communities have, in varying degrees, failed in this respect and done themselves and the country serious disservice over a period of time. The reason for this is fairly obvious.


Members of minority communities allow themselves to be herded together, used and politically abused by their self-seeking, feudalistic leaders who care only for the enlargement of their influence and affluence.


The plight of religious minorities in India is a silent tragedy of vast human collectives being kept manipulated, brainwashed, backward and barricaded from the national mainstream.

This has two regrettable outcomes: under-development of religious minorities (Parsis excepted), and their growing alienation and forfeiture of goodwill. The plight of average Kashmiris is not going to improve even if the autonomy they are made to die for is granted to them.

Nor is it going to be degraded any further than it already is, on account of the statehood of J&K being compromised. On the mainstream side of the divide, the national security environment is not going to be healed by the measures now undertaken. Other than sentimental highs or lows, life will remain the same for most people.

The interests of a handful could gain.

I plead with the members of minority communities to emerge from their infantile tutelage to communal leaders who have a vested interest in keeping them fed on emotive, antiquated agendas and obsessions. They need to be, if they have any common sense, as selfish for their own good as their leaders are for their own gains in inciting them the way they do.

As a rule, leaders don’t suffer; they only gain, no matter what happens. Being used as tools is detrimental to human dignity. Fools, in public life, are human beings who allow themselves to be used as tools. It doesn’t matter who, or in which camp, they are.


Fools exclude themselves from goodwill; religious fools most of all

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Post by Muns » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:31 am

Doval in Moscow: India and Russia reaffirmed their intention to intensify counter-terrorism cooperation

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National Security Advisor Ajit Doval, in Moscow to prepare for Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Vladivostok next month, on Wednesday held talks with his Russian counterpart during which both sides reiterated their support for the “principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity and non-interference of third parties”.

Doval’s visit was on the invitation of his Russian counterpart Nikolai Patrushev.

During the talks, the two sides covered the preparations for Modi’s visit to Vladivostok as chief guest at the Eastern Economic Forum in early September and for the next India-Russia Bilateral Summit.

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Post by Muns » Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:30 am

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Post by Primus » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:05 am

He is indeed the Yugpurush of this century. Will be long remembered as the man who changed India forever.

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Post by Muns » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:47 am

Really has been a terrible year for those Giants for the BJP. Manohar Parrikar, Sushma Swaraj and now Arun Jaitley. All of them will be sorely missed. What I can’t understand is how young both Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitley passed at. Both of them were 67 and 66. Really so young to be passing away.

Both of them it seems had diabetes necessitating kidney transplants before finally succumbing. Makes me wonder with all of what they had to do how much care did they really give to their own health as well as diabetes. With both of them being diabetic and then needing renal transplants must be said that they had steadily declining function usually because of uncontrolled diabetes. What a big loss to the BJP with both of their passing.

Arun Jaitley especially will be sorely missed. I used to regularly get tweets from him on twitter especially during the election time when he kept fighting the propaganda machine regarding Rafale. He almost single-handedly fought against the propaganda from the Congress party.

Not only that, I can’t forget how he would hold 2 to 3 portfolios at one time. At one stage he led to from the economic front with the GST as well as the monetization. On the same, defense front he would hold the Chinese back at Doklam.
He will be sorely missed. I personally will miss his daily tweets.

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Post by Primus » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:27 am

What is fortunate is that the BJP still has some very good people in it. Hopefully the younger generation will come up and take the baton. But the three big ones will be sorely missed.

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Post by KJo » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:28 am

My prediction is that Modi will win 2024 and then retire by 2029. Then it will be Amit Shah as PM for 2-3 terms, and then make way for Yogi.
Congress will split up and the Gandhis will be in jail or out of politics.

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Post by Muns » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:26 am

That is some interesting trivia Kjo, actually had to look it up. Apparently there is no limit to how many terms of prime minister can serve as long as he keeps winning the elections. That means that Modi is only really limited by his own health as well as energy. Definitely three terms are on the cards and he could yet be the first prime minister should he choose to try and do four terms. However this could lead to an almost fatigue situation among the Indian voters and as you said probably three terms would be enough.

Other prime ministers previously who did three terms were Nehru and Indira Gandhi.

Current ages are Narendra Modi 68
Amit Shah 54
Yogi 47

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Post by Muns » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:28 am

For all the good PR work that the Congress party probably spends on instantly gets nullified by their commander-in-chief Rahul Gandhi. However it's not the first time that Pakistan has used statements from the Congress party either Rahul Gandhi himself or even spokespersons to push their argument across at international forums. Thankfully, India is in a position where not too many foreign countries would seek to alienate themselves from one of the fastest growing economies in the world.

It is unfortunate however that many Western news agencies seem to really only take news reports from the Kashmir Valley and call it all of Kashmir. Nobody really overtakes any news reports from Jammu or Ladakh which have really little to do with the valley itself.
Not much news thereto send the Jihadis into the rabid frenzy.

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Post by Muns » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:30 am

So it seems that the NRC list is out and close to 19 Lakh Indians have been excluded. However unfortunately a large chunk of Hindus also seem to be included in the list. The English media again seems to be on overdrive as to India discriminating against Muslim minority now in Assam.
I’m not sure what the concern with stating that India is the only land for Hindus left in the world especially in a neighborhood where they have experienced ethnic cleansing as well as genocidal extermination. I guess what I’m trying to refer to the exodus of Bengali Hindus from the Pakistani Army during the independence of Bangladesh. Also other cases as well such as the Kashmiri Pandit’s as well.

We’ve seen a repeated basis how Hindu minorities are repeatedly killed, tortured and had to face the daily stress of conversion to Islam in neighboring countries. While the English media seeks to highlight Hindus as supremist, pray tell us how Tibetans, Syrian Christians, Chin Burmese, Ahmadiyyas, Parsis, Bahai etc have all in ages past found a safe shelter in India under Hindu kingdoms of the time.

It is absolutely imperative that over the next session that the citizenship amendment bill comes to be tabled and passed!

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Post by Muns » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:58 am

There’s a lot of uncertainty nowadays regarding India’s economy. While the government has initiated innumerable actions to try and generate stimulus to the economy we can understand that it takes some time for these things to initiate. What everybody seems to be focusing on is the automotive industry as well as manufacturing there. Maruti Suzuki seems to have a 36% drop in sales, but how much of this is really because Indians are waiting on the upcoming push towards electric cars? With significant tax cuts as well as other incentives it seems that most of the consumers are waiting on the next generation of electric cars to hit the markets in the next few months.

So it really seems it’s a matter of Indians being wise to their purchase I feel. It seems this economy slowdown really hasn’t hit other consumable goods such as cell phones or electronics or fridges. Just goes to show what is most important to Indians right now.

The opposition seems to keep crying we need solutions now. However, if you ask them for any particular solution right now that could be implemented they have no answers. They seem to holler at the top of their voice regarding a drastic change immediately is needed but nobody seems to understand where the change needs to take place.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 4

Post by Muns » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:30 am

So today turns out to be Hindi Diwas day. Instead of trying to celebrate unity on some level by a national language apart from English, Tamil Nadu has yet again risen the bogy of the domination of Hindi on everybody else. Anybody who was going through any of the Twitter messages will find them plainly ridiculous. Unfortunately, it still seems that the legacy of Periyar seems to dominate Tamil Nadu politics. However, we can’t also forget that on cue whenever there is some regional divide to be taken advantage of, it is rapidly done by Pakistan. Who can forget about Modi visiting Tamil Nadu with the number one trending #Modi go back. It was later shown that a majority of tweets percentage wise emanated from Pakistan and not from the Tamil Nadu.

I’m not a native Hindi speaker myself but can see the advantage of at least one link Indian language to connect all Indians. Who really cares if it is Hindi or Tamil that tends to be the link language? Is it appropriate that all link language really be English? Do Modi and Shah force everybody to speak in Gujarati?

I think K Sivan said it best when he gave a recent interview stating that I am first Indian and then Tamil. What we need are more Tamils I feel like him who are willing to stand up against the false legacy of Periyar.

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